Wallace Request: Liver shake recipe?

2007-06-15 Thread Jean

Greetings, folks--

In all the *wonderful* advice and support I've gotten
here, there have been many mentions of a liver shake
recipe.

Does someone have it handy? I really appreciate it.

We've been having a much better day today. Details on
my LJ: I'll save the list's bandwidth and just post a
link for the interested. :)

http://lyonessnyc.livejournal.com/#58245

Thanks so much -- you all are made of awesome. :)

Best,

Jean


  

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Re: Wallace Request: Liver shake recipe?

2007-06-15 Thread C J
This is the recipe that was posted here:  I tried it and Kisa liked it for 
awhile until her appetite faded again.


Here is the liver shake recipe:

1 cup raw liver (chicken or beef, I use chicken)
1 cup fresh carrot juice, tomato juice, or V-8
1/4 cup filtered water
1 raw egg yolk
1 tsp kelp or spirulina

Blend until liquid and frothy.


I make it in half batches (though use a whole egg yolk), and warm up small 
amounts for Simon.  I had to put it on his lips the first few times to get 
him to eat it.  it is supposed to be complete nutrition.


Cassandra

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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: Wallace Request: Liver shake recipe?




Greetings, folks--

In all the *wonderful* advice and support I've gotten
here, there have been many mentions of a liver shake
recipe.

Does someone have it handy? I really appreciate it.

We've been having a much better day today. Details on
my LJ: I'll save the list's bandwidth and just post a
link for the interested. :)

http://lyonessnyc.livejournal.com/#58245

Thanks so much -- you all are made of awesome. :)

Best,

Jean




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Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients

2007-06-06 Thread Kat

I believe, from all the other info out there, that it is the GREEN
tomatoes, stems and leaves that are the poisonous parts.

The red/ripe tomatoes thet we normally consume and that are used in tomato
juice contain only trace amounts of Solanine and are not poisonous.

From the ASPCA:
http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=pro_apcc_ask_peoplefoods_state=tomatoes
The green parts of the tomato plant are considered toxic because they
contain solanine, which has the potential to produce significant
gastrointestinal and central nervous system effects. However ripe
tomatoes, the part of the plant typically used in food products, are not
toxic. Therefore, we would not expect any poisoning-related issues with
the tomato content of your cat food.

Here are a few other sites with info on Solanine  Tomaotes:
http://ntp-server.niehs.nih.gov/index.cfm?objectid=6F5F05AB-F1F6-975E-79F11EF81F6A5475
http://www.whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=georgedbid=62
http://www.floridata.com/ref/l/lyco_lyc.cfm
http://www.trustedhands.com/content/id267.html
http://www.cfainc.org/articles/plants.html

If you can find any other info - NOT taken from the Feline Future stories,
I would be very interested in it. 

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 22:22:20 -0400
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients
 
 Then WHY on earth does our liver shake call for TOMATO JUICE?!!?!?!
 
 Phaewryn
 
Think I would stick with the carrot juice or leave the veggies out all
 together.  Just my opinion.
 
  Tomatoes can be toxic to cats:
   http://cats.about.com/cs/catfood/a/humanfood.htm
 
 Tomatoes, Green (raw Potatoes)
 
 These foods are members of the Solanaceae family of plants, which
 includes the Deadly Nightshade, and contain a bitter, poisonous alkaloid
 called Glycoalkaloid Solanine, which can cause violent lower
 gastrointestinal symptoms. The Feline Future web site offers a rare
 description of a cat which was close to death from ingesting just one cherry
 tomato.
   http://site.pawshop.com/blog/archive/2006_08_20_archive.html
 
 
 Tomatoes and tomato plants: Tomatoes of all kinds are toxic to cats, as
 are parts of the tomato plant. Ingesting as little as a cherry tomato can
 cause severe gastrointestinal upset.
 
   http://www.dietbites.com/Diet-123/dog-cat-foods-to-avoid.html
 
 
 Tomatoes - May cause heart disturbances.
 
 
   http://www.petshealth.com/dr_library/cattox.html#t
 
 
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Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients

2007-06-06 Thread Belinda
I've never seen a green cherry tomato, but that aside *and this is my 
opinion only* why tempt fate when dealing with an already compromised 
immune system.  Yes it may be safe for most cats, even positive cats, 
but I would die if *my cat* was the one cat it wasn't safe for.  It just 
isn't worth it to me when it can be left out.


*To be honest with you I will always wonder if Bailey didn't get sick 
because of the raw food I was feeding him*, yes he did very well for 
about 6 months, got chubby, seemed to feel good but then he got very 
sick and and less than 6 months later was gone.  He had *NEVER* been 
sick in all his 11 years before that, so was it just a coincidence ... 
possibly, but I will NEVER know for sure and I will never feed raw 
again, just in case.



I believe, from all the other info out there, that it is the GREEN
tomatoes, stems and leaves that are the poisonous parts.

The red/ripe tomatoes thet we normally consume and that are used in tomato
juice contain only trace amounts of Solanine and are not poisonous.


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Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients

2007-06-06 Thread Kat
Belinda,

I hear you, and understand where you're coming from.  Raw feeding can be
tricky, especially for our positives, because it's easy to be unbalanced.

A great resource (online) for me has been the HolistiCat Forum -
http://www.holisticat.com/
Besides raw, they share recipes for cooked and have discussions about the
better commercial foods as well as pre-made frozen raw, etc.  

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Belinda wrote:
 I've never seen a green cherry tomato, but that aside *and this is my 
 opinion only* why tempt fate when dealing with an already compromised 
 immune system.  Yes it may be safe for most cats, even positive cats, 
 but I would die if *my cat* was the one cat it wasn't safe for.  It just 
 isn't worth it to me when it can be left out.
 
 *To be honest with you I will always wonder if Bailey didn't get sick 
 because of the raw food I was feeding him*, yes he did very well for 
 about 6 months, got chubby, seemed to feel good but then he got very 
 sick and and less than 6 months later was gone.  He had *NEVER* been 
 sick in all his 11 years before that, so was it just a coincidence ... 
 possibly, but I will NEVER know for sure and I will never feed raw 
 again, just in case.




Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients

2007-06-06 Thread Belinda

  Thanks Kat, I just joined   :)

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Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients

2007-06-06 Thread C J

Do you have to pay to read the HolistiCat forum?

Cassandra

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From: Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients



Belinda,

I hear you, and understand where you're coming from.  Raw feeding can be
tricky, especially for our positives, because it's easy to be unbalanced.

A great resource (online) for me has been the HolistiCat Forum -
http://www.holisticat.com/
Besides raw, they share recipes for cooked and have discussions about the
better commercial foods as well as pre-made frozen raw, etc.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Belinda wrote:

I've never seen a green cherry tomato, but that aside *and this is my
opinion only* why tempt fate when dealing with an already compromised
immune system.  Yes it may be safe for most cats, even positive cats,
but I would die if *my cat* was the one cat it wasn't safe for.  It just
isn't worth it to me when it can be left out.

*To be honest with you I will always wonder if Bailey didn't get sick
because of the raw food I was feeding him*, yes he did very well for
about 6 months, got chubby, seemed to feel good but then he got very
sick and and less than 6 months later was gone.  He had *NEVER* been
sick in all his 11 years before that, so was it just a coincidence ...
possibly, but I will NEVER know for sure and I will never feed raw
again, just in case.





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Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients

2007-06-06 Thread Belinda
   You can have a 7 day free trial but you can't post, I just went 
ahead and joined for the 90 day period and will go from there.


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Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients

2007-06-06 Thread Kat
Hi Cassandra,

This is from the HolistiCat forum:

Unregistered users can see broad categories and the topics covered, but
must register in order to go further.

If you wish to read and/or post, you must first register by choosing a
userID and password. Should you ever lose it, you can request it by
visiting the Bulletin Board.

Please use a working email address because in order for your registration
to be complete, it will have to be validated first by the administrators -
Jules or Sandy. Be sure you check your Junk folder in case the welcome
message doesn't come to you in 3-4 hrs.

Once registered and validated, you can choose to be a:
Trial user - If your check has not cleared or you haven't yet decided if
you wish to be a member and thus have not paid. Trial period is 7
days. During this period, one can read current messages but not post.
-OR-
Member - Registered for an account, and paid subscription dues. Can read
and post messages. If you wish to have access to older posts on our
Yahoogroups, feel free to join there (w/ nomail option) until archives get
moved over here.

If 1 week after registering and being validated, your membership dues have
not been received, your account will be deleted. You can come back at a
later date, and join us if you wish.

So, yes - for FULL access, you have to register  the fees is either $25 
annually or $10 per quarter, but the info and support is well worth it for
me.  Besides the food info, there is a wealth of info on homeopathic
support and holistic health care.  And they are just as committed and
caring as the members of this list!!

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, C  J wrote:
 
 Do you have to pay to read the HolistiCat forum?
 
 Cassandra
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:17 AM
 Subject: Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients
 
 
  Belinda,
 
  I hear you, and understand where you're coming from.  Raw feeding can be
  tricky, especially for our positives, because it's easy to be unbalanced.
 
  A great resource (online) for me has been the HolistiCat Forum -
  http://www.holisticat.com/
  Besides raw, they share recipes for cooked and have discussions about the
  better commercial foods as well as pre-made frozen raw, etc.
 
  Kat (Mew Jersey)
 




Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients

2007-06-06 Thread Marylyn
I'm feeding Dixie Primal raw.  Mixed with carrots and broccoli no yet.  And 
she loves it.  It comes in cubes, pre-mixed and balanced and easy for those 
of us who are vegetarian.  I mix hers with some bottled water too.  It is 
pretty concentrated and Dixie is accustomed to Fancy Feast and foods like 
that --- lots of water and not as much real food.







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exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
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Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients



Do you have to pay to read the HolistiCat forum?

Cassandra

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From: Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients



Belinda,

I hear you, and understand where you're coming from.  Raw feeding can be
tricky, especially for our positives, because it's easy to be unbalanced.

A great resource (online) for me has been the HolistiCat Forum -
http://www.holisticat.com/
Besides raw, they share recipes for cooked and have discussions about the
better commercial foods as well as pre-made frozen raw, etc.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Belinda wrote:

I've never seen a green cherry tomato, but that aside *and this is my
opinion only* why tempt fate when dealing with an already compromised
immune system.  Yes it may be safe for most cats, even positive cats,
but I would die if *my cat* was the one cat it wasn't safe for.  It just
isn't worth it to me when it can be left out.

*To be honest with you I will always wonder if Bailey didn't get sick
because of the raw food I was feeding him*, yes he did very well for
about 6 months, got chubby, seemed to feel good but then he got very
sick and and less than 6 months later was gone.  He had *NEVER* been
sick in all his 11 years before that, so was it just a coincidence ...
possibly, but I will NEVER know for sure and I will never feed raw
again, just in case.





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Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients

2007-06-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Then WHY on earth does our liver shake call for TOMATO JUICE?!!?!?!

Phaewryn

   Think I would stick with the carrot juice or leave the veggies out all
together.  Just my opinion.

 Tomatoes can be toxic to cats:
  http://cats.about.com/cs/catfood/a/humanfood.htm

Tomatoes, Green (raw Potatoes)

These foods are members of the Solanaceae family of plants, which
includes the Deadly Nightshade, and contain a bitter, poisonous alkaloid
called Glycoalkaloid Solanine, which can cause violent lower
gastrointestinal symptoms. The Feline Future web site offers a rare
description of a cat which was close to death from ingesting just one cherry
tomato.
  http://site.pawshop.com/blog/archive/2006_08_20_archive.html


Tomatoes and tomato plants: Tomatoes of all kinds are toxic to cats, as
are parts of the tomato plant. Ingesting as little as a cherry tomato can
cause severe gastrointestinal upset.

  http://www.dietbites.com/Diet-123/dog-cat-foods-to-avoid.html


Tomatoes - May cause heart disturbances.


  http://www.petshealth.com/dr_library/cattox.html#t


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Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients

2007-06-04 Thread Belinda
   Think I would stick with the carrot juice or leave the veggies out 
all together.  Just my opinion.


  Tomatoes can be toxic to cats:
http://cats.about.com/cs/catfood/a/humanfood.htm


*Tomatoes, Green (raw Potatoes)*

These foods are members of the Solanaceae family of plants, which 
includes the Deadly Nightshade, and contain a bitter, poisonous 
alkaloid called / Glycoalkaloid Solanine/, which can cause violent 
lower gastrointestinal symptoms. The Feline Future web site offers a 
rare description of a cat which was close to death from ingesting just 
one cherry tomato.

http://site.pawshop.com/blog/archive/2006_08_20_archive.html


Tomatoes and tomato plants: Tomatoes of all kinds are toxic to cats, 
as are parts of the tomato plant. Ingesting as little as a cherry 
tomato can cause severe gastrointestinal upset.


http://www.dietbites.com/Diet-123/dog-cat-foods-to-avoid.html


Tomatoes - May cause heart disturbances.



http://www.petshealth.com/dr_library/cattox.html#t

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Re: Update on Kisa (tomato in liver shake)

2007-06-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The tomato peel is not easily digested, and the seeds are not digested at
all. You could use fresh tomato if you blanch it, peel it, and then remove
all the seeds.

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Re: Update on Kisa (tomato in liver shake)

2007-06-02 Thread C J
How about pure tomato paste?  I have a can of that, and while it doesn't say 
anywhere on it what the ingredients are, I would imagine because it's 100% 
tomatoes.

Cassandra
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  The tomato peel is not easily digested, and the seeds are not digested at 
all. You could use fresh tomato if you blanch it, peel it, and then remove all 
the seeds.

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Re: Update on Kisa (tomato in liver shake)

2007-06-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That should work, just be sure to dilute it to normal juice dilution
(taste it to be sure). Tomato paste is super concentrated.

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Re: Smokey - liver shake?

2006-02-17 Thread catatonya
I have it if you haven't got it yet.tGloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Who had the recipe for "liver shake" for anemia?GloriaOn Feb 16, 2006, at 5:59 PM, catatonya wrote: I wish I had some ideas for you. I think anemia seems to be the  biggest enemy of our positive cats. I hope Smokey's condition  turns around. Prayers to you and Smokey. tonya cindy reasoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: The bloodwork showed he was anemic, red and white blood cell count low. The white blood cell count was at the border of low  normal. He had been on Baytril for awhile and the vet said she would of thought it would not have been at that level after being on antibiotics. His platelets were
 low too. I just talked to the vet and he didn't seem very hopeful for Smokey. I will take him back to vet today to see if his temp. has spiked again. After the vet gets his temp. down he goes about 3 or 4 days and it spikes again. I know when I go down there if he has a fever the vet will recomend euthanasia. What should I do? Thank you, Cindy --- Barb Moermond wrote:  Why does your vet say that there's an infection  somewhere? Does the bloodwork indicate it? I know  that there have been a few people on-list who have  had FeLV+ kitties with unexplained/idiopathic  fevers. How very frustrating for you and your  family! Am sending strength and calm for all of  you.Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito   "My cat the clown: paying no mind to
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Re: Smokey - liver shake?

2006-02-17 Thread cindy reasoner
Hi I would like to have it for Smokey.

Thanks 
Cindy

--- catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I have it if you haven't got it yet.

   t
 Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Who had the recipe for liver shake for anemia?
 
 Gloria
 
 
 On Feb 16, 2006, at 5:59 PM, catatonya wrote:
 
  I wish I had some ideas for you. I think anemia
 seems to be the 
  biggest enemy of our positive cats. I hope
 Smokey's condition 
  turns around. Prayers to you and Smokey.
 
  tonya
 
  cindy reasoner wrote:
  The bloodwork showed he was anemic, red and white
  blood cell count low. The white blood cell count
 was
  at the border of low  normal. He had been on
 Baytril
  for awhile and the vet said she would of thought
 it
  would not have been at that level after being on
  antibiotics. His platelets were low too. I just
  talked to the vet and he didn't seem very hopeful
 for
  Smokey. I will take him back to vet today to see
 if
  his temp. has spiked again. After the vet gets his
  temp. down he goes about 3 or 4 days and it spikes
  again. I know when I go down there if he has a
 fever
  the vet will recomend euthanasia. What should I
 do?
 
  Thank you,
 
  Cindy
  --- Barb Moermond wrote:
 
   Why does your vet say that there's an infection
   somewhere? Does the bloodwork indicate it? I
 know
   that there have been a few people on-list who
 have
   had FeLV+ kitties with unexplained/idiopathic
   fevers. How very frustrating for you and your
   family! Am sending strength and calm for all of
   you.
  
  
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 should
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 pleases
   him, and making me smile.
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liver shake recipe

2006-02-17 Thread catatonya
Susan Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi Chris - not sure if this would help with the red blood cells... a liver shake recipe posted by Cesar a while ago... does anyone think this will help?1 cup RAW LIVER (BEEF, or CHICKEN)1 cup FRESH CARROT JUICE or V-8, or Tomatoe Juice1/4 cup *FRESH FILTERED WATER1 RAW EGG YOLK1 tsp. KELP POWDER OR SPIRULINACOMBINE AND MIX IN A BLENDER UNTIL LIQUIFIED. (Note: it will be frothy)Dosage:Administer lOcc daily 3-6 times a day. (6Occ per day max)Some cats will need to be force-fed with a syringe, while others willdrink it out of a bowl.This food has a sweet and salty taste, and the energetic properties oftonifying (energy boosting), warming and stimulating and supports thekidneys, spleen, liver and stomach.This drink is a
 complete dinner for a sick cat until they feel goodenough to eat by themselves again.*Substitute rice water if the cat has diarrhea. Rice wateris made by boiling white rice (2 Tblsp) with water (1 cup) for 30minutes.This liquid aids digestion and assimilation and inhibits the symptomsof diarrhea._From: "Susan Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: felvtalk@vlists.netTo: felvtalk@vlists.netSubject: Re: BjornDate: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:07:03 -0500Hi Chris - Vitamin C 250 mg per day and work up to 500mg per day. I can'tremember, is Bjorn on interferon? If not, I would do it.sueFrom: CHRISTINA-KIERSTEN MADURA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: felvtalk@vlists.netTo: felvtalk@vlists.netSubject: BjornDate: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:09:46
 -0500Hello, I took Bjorn to the vet today. The vet said he has a URI but it hasnot settled in his chest, she said his lungs are clear. He is notsneezing as much but he is a little congested and he is sleeping a lot.Thankfully he still has an appetite. The vet gave me some nose drops andthey have helped a bit. I asked about Immunoregulan but she said shewouldn't recommend it at this point. She took some blood to check hiswhite count which was a little low at the time of his surgery two weeksago. I'm giving him Transfer Factor with Thymus and a product calledImmutol which helps boost white cell count. Does anyone have any othersuggestions? I would appreciate any input.Thanks,Chris_Get Your
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RE: Liver Shake

2006-01-16 Thread Lisa Ward
Title: Message









Thank youLisa



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Doljan, Joan wrote:





THE '~LIVER SHAKE~'
FOR SICK CATS

This liquid food is appropriate for cats suffering from conditions
where they are eating very little or not at all such as anemias,
leukemias, deficiency states with symptoms of lethargy, listlessness,
and weakness.

 1 cup RAW LIVER (BEEF, or CHICKEN)
 1 cup FRESH CARROT JUICE or V-8, or Tomatoe Juice
 1/4 cup *FRESH FILTERED WATER
 1 RAW EGG YOLK
 1 tsp.KELP POWDER OR SPIRULINA


COMBINE AND MIX IN A BLENDER UNTIL LIQUIFIED. (Note: it will be frothy)

Dosage:

Administer lOcc daily 3-6 times a day. (6Occ per day max)

Some cats will need to be force-fed with a syringe, while others will
drink it out of a bowl.

This food has a sweet and salty taste, and the energetic properties of
tonifying (energy boosting), warming and stimulating and supports the
kidneys, spleen, liver and stomach.

This drink is a complete dinner for a sick cat until they feel good
enough to eat by themselves again.

*Substitute rice water if the cat has diarrhea. Rice water
is made by boiling white rice (2 Tblsp) with water (1cup) for 30
minutes.
This liquid aids digestion and assimilation and inhibits the symptoms
of
diarrhea.










RE: need liver shake recipe

2005-10-21 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Could someone please email me the liver shake recipe ASAP - I need to
email to someone from a different list -thank you!





Re: need liver shake recipe

2005-10-21 Thread Nina




Here
is the liver shake recipe:
<>1
cup raw liver (chicken or beef, I use chicken)
1
cup fresh carrot juice, tomato juice, or V-8
1/4
cup filtered water
1
raw egg yolk
1
tsp kelp or spirulina

Blend
until liquid and frothy. If cat will not eat it, syirnge 10 cc every 3
hours up
to a max of 60 cc/day.


Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

  Could someone please email me the liver shake recipe ASAP - I need to
email to someone from a different list -thank you!





  





Liver Shake

2005-10-21 Thread Doljan, Joan
Title: Message



THE '~LIVER SHAKE~' FOR SICK 
CATSThis liquid food is appropriate for cats suffering 
from conditionswhere they are eating very little or not at all such 
as anemias,leukemias, deficiency states with symptoms of lethargy, 
listlessness,and weakness. 
1 cup RAW LIVER (BEEF, or CHICKEN) 1 cup FRESH 
CARROT JUICE or V-8, or Tomatoe Juice 1/4 cup *FRESH FILTERED 
WATER 1 RAW EGG 
YOLK 1 tsp.KELP POWDER OR 
SPIRULINACOMBINE AND MIX IN A BLENDER UNTIL 
LIQUIFIED. (Note: it will be 
frothy)Dosage:Administer lOcc 
daily 3-6 times a day. (6Occ per day max)Some cats will 
need to be force-fed with a syringe, while others willdrink it out 
of a bowl.This food has a sweet and salty taste, and the 
energetic properties oftonifying (energy boosting), warming and 
stimulating and supports thekidneys, spleen, liver and 
stomach.This drink is a complete dinner for a sick cat 
until they feel goodenough to eat by themselves 
again.*Substitute rice water if the cat has 
diarrhea. Rice wateris made by boiling white rice (2 Tblsp) 
with water (1cup) for 30minutes.This liquid aids 
digestion and assimilation and inhibits the symptoms 
ofdiarrhea.


Liver Shake

2005-08-29 Thread Belinda Sauro

 OK, I see Michelle has already posted it.

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liver shake- new rescues

2005-04-30 Thread catatonya
All I know it that a lot of people on the list have used the liver shake with no adverse effects. The only problem I can think of is if onion is in the v8 or tomato juice

tonyaTad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps this is a good time to ask a question that I have...People on this group have recomended the Liver Shake...Basicaly equal volume of liver and V8 tomato juiceI gave it to Baby Kitten the last couple weeks of her lifein the form of A/D and V8...1/4 juice and 3/4 A/DIt seems that the V8 improves the flavor so that a catwill eat when it won't eat anything else...On the Feline Assisted Feeding Group there is a catthat had stopped eating...The vet suggested A/D..She atefor a couple days then stopped again...I suggested adding a little V8 to A/D which sureworked for Baby Kitten...But the owner of the group jumped all over me forgiving tomato juice to a cat...My reply argument thatit was recomended on here got monitored and not postedto the listNow I don't know what to believe...It
 got my Kitty eatingbut then my Kitty died 2 weeks later...I think she was toosick from FeLV problems but I strongly believe it boughther 2 weeks of quality life...For Jenns cat...Pursians, like siamese which I have, can be verypicky about their food and switching it...Perhaps they havebeen feed the cheapest food you can by..Might be worthtrying a couple differant types before you start force feeding..Force feeding can really turn a cat off from eatingIf you dare try the V8 I bet it will work...But they do need to eat something soon...Its not good forthem to go much over a day without eating...For a 10 pound cat one 5.5 oz can of food per day is a goodstarting point...Watch weight from thereTad[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Whoops, I forgot to use the right email address... this is by me, guys!

Anyways, this is the 3rd day and they don't seem to be eating or drinking, so if you guys could remind me the required minimal amount of water I need to force feed for a 10 pound cat, that would be great. They will lick Nutri-cal off my fingers, so that's something I suppose.
Jenn

~~~
Yesterday I took in two severely neglected Persians. They both have been groomed (shaved and de-bugged), and one has had a full vetting (shots and neuter, but not FELV tested). Anyways, the one I spent all the money on, he was so matted that when they shaved him, his hair came off al in one piece. It literally looks like someone has skinned a cat, the hair came off in ONE BIG MATT! I didn't have enough money to get them both UTD of everything and both neutered, so the other one just had a haircut and revolution treatment for fleas and earmites. So, they are both much more comfortable now. Just wanted to share my newest arrivals with you guys. I have NO idea if they are FELV+ or not, ran out of funds for testing. 

Anyways, I converted one of our closets into a isolation unit. You guys may be interested in this, it really works great. It's a average sized clothes closet, I took out the shelves and the clothes rod, and removed the wood door. Then I took an old glass storm window from storage and it fit right into the door frame, but only goes 3/4 of the way up the doorway. I made a little frame of rabbit wire and wood to cover the upper 1/4 of the doorway, and I secured the wire part to the top of the doorframe with wood screws, so it can flap up from the bottom. Then I just angled in two wood screws in front of the glass storm door frame in the doorframe, so all I have to do is unscrew two screws (I only screw them in about halfway), and the "door" is easily removed. I added a clamp lamp on one of the wood supports that held up the shelves. Now I have a nice 2x5 isolation room with a glass door I can see through to check up on the cats through, but my cats can't get
 nose-to-nose with the new cats through. They can see each other, and get to know each other, but with a solid glass barrier between them. It really works great. I put the old beat up foster and smith cat tree in there, it has two levels, a half-round cup and a solid tunnel, and now they have a place to get off the floor. I couldn't have done any better, if I do say so myself! 

Just had to share with you guys, I think it's a genius idea, and what's the best is it doesn't consume any more floor space than before. I added two more cats without any loss of space. Who knew closets could be converted into cat rooms so easily! It looks surprisingly professional!
Jenn
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Re: Liver shake

2005-03-09 Thread Lernermichelle



Also, if you make it without the kelp/spirulina, I would use V-8 juice 
instead of carrot or tomato, because it includes greens in it (the vitamins that 
are in kelp/spirulina) and is somewhat salty.
Michelle


Re: Liver shake

2005-03-08 Thread Gloria B. Lane
You should be able to find it at the health food store.  I've used kelp 
before with my cats, but not spirulina.  Think they're both good 
nutrients.  Maybe somebody else knows...!

Gloria
At 07:22 PM 3/8/2005, you wrote:
I got the stuff but I couldn't get the Kelp or spirulina.What is the for 
does anyone know? should I just go ahead  give it to him anyway.Thanks
Anita



Re: Liver shake

2005-03-08 Thread Sue Feldbusch
Spirulina also is called blue algae, I think.  If you can't find it under 
spirulina, it could be under that.  Our big grocer has it.  Look in the 
vitamin section of your grocer.  For sure, a helath place will have it.  Ask 
if you can't find it.

From: Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Liver shake
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 20:08:28 -0600
You should be able to find it at the health food store.  I've used kelp 
before with my cats, but not spirulina.  Think they're both good nutrients. 
 Maybe somebody else knows...!

Gloria
At 07:22 PM 3/8/2005, you wrote:
I got the stuff but I couldn't get the Kelp or spirulina.What is the for 
does anyone know? should I just go ahead  give it to him anyway.Thanks
Anita





Re: Liver shake

2005-03-08 Thread catstevens



I asked at the health food store,he 
said they were out of kelp but the only spirulina they had in was a big jar of 
powder that was 48.00  I don't have much money.He asked what I wanted it 
for  I hold him he was very surprised that you could use either in the 
shake.He said that they are totally different he asked why we use those because 
the spirulina was an Iron supplement.
 
Anita
- Original Message - 
From: "Sue Feldbusch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: Liver shake
 Spirulina also is called blue algae, I think. If you can't 
find it under  spirulina, it could be under that. Our big grocer 
has it. Look in the  vitamin section of your grocer. For 
sure, a helath place will have it. Ask  if you can't find 
it. From: "Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Liver shakeDate: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 
20:08:28 -0600You should be able to find it at the 
health food store. I've used kelp before with my cats, but not 
spirulina. Think they're both good nutrients.  Maybe 
somebody else knows...!GloriaAt 
07:22 PM 3/8/2005, you wrote:I got the stuff but I couldn't get 
the Kelp or spirulina.What is the for does anyone know? should I 
just go ahead  give it to him 
anyway.Thanks 
Anita