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Your vet has to give you your records. Call the state vet. board. tMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, this is not right. I have never had a vet refuse copies of records. People doctors have to up copies to patients. There are some lawyers on this board. May be they can shed some light on this. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:38 AM Subject: Vet RecordsHi all, I ask for the records on Dukee they won't release them to me. They said the only way they would release them if another Vet requested them. Then it would be by fax only. This is the first time I have ever been turned down getting any Vet records. Is this right? I can tell you I'm getting disappointed in some Vets in the area I moved to.Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/
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I would march up to that office and make it known very loudly in the reception area that I wanted copies of my records.Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:My vet says the medical records are the physical property of the practice and it is entirely up to the vet whether or not they want to release a copy. Of course my vet will if I want.I don't think it is right, but apparently it is the law.I wouldn't hesitate to change vets and let them know why.Some vets are not good with grieving people. My last vet's staff were so awful to me when I lost a kitten I won't even go back in there for any reason.I'm sorry you are having to deal with this. On 10/31/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I ask for the records on Dukee they won't release them to me. They said the only way they would release them if another Vet requested them. Then it would be by fax only. This is the first time I have ever been turned down getting any Vet records. Is this right? I can tell you I'm getting disappointed in some Vets in the area I moved to. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/-- Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: Vet Records/Morbid question
Excellent idea phawyren! I will donate all my sons old blankies he has and I love to croqet...I will make blankies and donate them. I love how your vet had little cofifns for the past pets. It is sad that they wrapped poor Dukee in a Science Diet box. Great idea about the blankies. Thanks Kayte and Crackers
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I never heard of that before- I get all the records of all of my cats anytime I think you should push there is no legal ground for them not to .. its probably their internal policy to protect themselves from something in the future. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:39 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Vet Records Hi all, I ask for the records on Dukee they won't release them to me. They said the only way they would release them if another Vet requested them. Then it would be by fax only. This is the first time I have ever been turned down getting any Vet records. Is this right? I can tell you I'm getting disappointed in some Vets in the area I moved to. Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://www.petloss.com/
Re: Vet Records
My vet says the medical records are the physical property of the practice and it is entirely up to the vet whether or not they want to release a copy. Of course my vet will if I want. I don't think it is right, but apparently it is the law. I wouldn't hesitate to change vets and let them know why. Some vets are not good with grieving people. My last vet's staff were so awful to me when I lost a kitten I won't even go back in there for any reason. I'm sorry you are having to deal with this. On 10/31/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I ask for the records on Dukee they won't release them to me. They said the only way they would release them if another Vet requested them. Then it would be by fax only. This is the first time I have ever been turned down getting any Vet records. Is this right? I can tell you I'm getting disappointed in some Vets in the area I moved to. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at: https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/ -- Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: Vet Records
No, this is not right. I have never had a vet refuse copies of records. People doctors have to up copies to patients. There are some lawyers on this board. May be they can shed some light on this. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:38 AM Subject: Vet Records Hi all, I ask for the records on Dukee they won't release them to me. They said the only way they would release them if another Vet requested them. Then it would be by fax only. This is the first time I have ever been turned down getting any Vet records. Is this right? I can tell you I'm getting disappointed in some Vets in the area I moved to. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/
RE: Vet Records
Terrie, this really doesn't sound right. Even *people* can get copies of their medical records on request. Maybe someone else here is more knowledgeable on the law aspects, but since animals are considered property, and therefore Dukee was your property, you should have a right to get a copy of his medical records. I would expect them to charge youa reasonable amountfor copying, though. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:39 AMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Vet Records Hi all, I ask for the records on Dukee they won't release them to me. They said the only way they would release them if another Vet requested them. Then it would be by fax only. This is the first time I have ever been turned down getting any Vet records. Is this right? I can tell you I'm getting disappointed in some Vets in the area I moved to. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/ This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: Vet Records
It occurred to me that possibly Terrie needs to write a letter formally requesting them. The law puts a lot of stock by stuff in writing (yes, I am a legal secretary ;-)). They may not want to fork them over (but why, if they have nothing to hide?) but they may have to if the request is made in the proper form. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MarylynSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:50 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Vet Records No, this is not right. I have never had a vet refuse copies of records. People doctors have to up copies to patients. There are some lawyers on this board. May be they can shed some light on this. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:38 AM Subject: Vet Records Hi all, I ask for the records on Dukee they won't release them to me. They said the only way they would release them if another Vet requested them. Then it would be by fax only. This is the first time I have ever been turned down getting any Vet records. Is this right? I can tell you I'm getting disappointed in some Vets in the area I moved to. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/ This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
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I would change vets and have ALL vet records from that vet transferred to the new one.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know all I wanted was copies of them and nothing more. I have to admit it does make me a little suspicious though.Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/
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You know all I wanted was copies of them and nothing more. I have to admit it does make me a little suspicious though. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/
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I would also report them to the State organization that oversees vets...but get another vet to request the records first. You need them. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:02 AM Subject: Re: Vet Records My vet says the medical records are the physical property of the practice and it is entirely up to the vet whether or not they want to release a copy. Of course my vet will if I want. I don't think it is right, but apparently it is the law. I wouldn't hesitate to change vets and let them know why. Some vets are not good with grieving people. My last vet's staff were so awful to me when I lost a kitten I won't even go back in there for any reason. I'm sorry you are having to deal with this. On 10/31/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I ask for the records on Dukee they won't release them to me. They said the only way they would release them if another Vet requested them. Then it would be by fax only. This is the first time I have ever been turned down getting any Vet records. Is this right? I can tell you I'm getting disappointed in some Vets in the area I moved to. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/-- Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
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My Vet always faxes me anything I ask for. Sounds to me like they are worried about something, just my suspicious nature I guess :) -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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I'm not sure it's legal to not give them to you, you have paid for the services, I do know some vets charge a fee for it but I have never heard of them refusing to give you at least copies. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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And I'm thinking if they're being such pr*cks about giving you a copy of Dukee's records, they're going to do the very least thing required of them if you do ask. Assuming you do push, and/or change vets and ask for the transfer of records, you probably need to be very explicit and tell them you want the records of all pets you have ever had there, living or deceased, transferred or copied. (Oh, and if you do change vets, probably you need to ask the new onesup front about their policy on copies of records.) Sorry this is such a hassle at this already bad time for you, Terrie. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 11:50 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Vet Records I never heard of that before- I get all the records of all of my cats anytime I think you should push there is no legal ground for them not to .. its probably their internal policy to protect themselves from something in the future. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:39 AMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Vet Records Hi all, I ask for the records on Dukee they won't release them to me. They said the only way they would release them if another Vet requested them. Then it would be by fax only. This is the first time I have ever been turned down getting any Vet records. Is this right? I can tell you I'm getting disappointed in some Vets in the area I moved to. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/ This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
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I just called the dept of health and they referred me to the veterinary board of medicine and I spoke with a lady who said they DO have to turn them over no later than 15 business days from the time of the written request, I just wrote Terrie with all the info. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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That is absolutely ridiculous. You have EVERY right to you cat's FULL medical records! Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.htmlFind us on PETFINDER! http://petfinder.com/shelters/VT44.html No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.19/507 - Release Date: 10/31/2006
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Scary to think, and I hate to even mention it, but MAYBE there is something they are hiding, and that's why they wont release the records, because they are scared of a malpractice suit because of something they did wrong. Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.htmlFind us on PETFINDER! http://petfinder.com/shelters/VT44.html No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.19/507 - Release Date: 10/31/2006
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Kelley what state are you in? I would guess each state will have different laws, in Washington they have to by law turn them over with a written request within 15 business days, of course that won't stop them from omitting things or changing things. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Hi there, I am in Texas. This is my vet's statement on medical records: http://www.staroftexasvet.com/pages/6/index.htm This is not because he will not release copies - he is explaining why a person may or may not be able to obtain copies from their previous vet. The emergency hospital here gives me copies of EVERYTHING when I pay/checkout, including the notes they take when they check on the animals. It is pretty cool, I wish everyone did that. On 10/31/06, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley what state are you in?I would guess each state will havedifferent laws, in Washington they have to by law turn them over with a written request within 15 business days, of course that won't stop themfrom omitting things or changing things.--Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design]http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com-- Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
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With that in mind, maybe you need to get a lawyer to write a letter to them if they do not respond to your letter requesting the records. Keep detailed notes, dated and timed, as to every conversation you have with them. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:43 PM Subject: Re: Vet Records Scary to think, and I hate to even mention it, but MAYBE there is something they are hiding, and that's why they wont release the records, because they are scared of a malpractice suit because of something they did wrong. Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.htmlFind us on PETFINDER! http://petfinder.com/shelters/VT44.html No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.19/507 - Release Date: 10/31/2006
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Wow, I lived in TX back in the early 80s up until 91 never had a problem with getting my Pet Vet records either. Especially since I was moving back to WA. state. Just to let you know I have spoke with a person of Veterinary Board. She told me to write a letter of request and that they have 15 days to get to me since the services were rendered and paid in full. She gave me the Washington rules and laws along with what Belinda sent me. If they don't comply or if the records appeared tampered with to file a complaint with them. Something doesn't feel right about this. I think they aren't being honest with me on what happened to Dukee. Then charge the amount they did. God, I will be so upset if this is the case and will file a lawsuit against them. In a message dated 10/31/2006 12:14:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi there, I am in Texas. This is my vet's statement on medical records: http://www.staroftexasvet.com/pages/6/index.htm This is not because he will not release copies - he is explaining why a person may or may not be able to obtain copies from their previous vet. The emergency hospital here gives me copies of EVERYTHING when I pay/checkout, including the notes they take when they check on the animals. It is pretty cool, I wish everyone did that. On 10/31/06, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley what state are you in?I would guess each state will havedifferent laws, in Washington they have to by law turn them over with a written request within 15 business days, of course that won't stop themfrom omitting things or changing things.--Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Servicehttp://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design]http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/
Re: Vet Records/Morbid question
My husband thinks Dukee died the same day he had the surgery and they wanted to make the bucks for having him over the weekend. He is using some curse words right now. Not a happy camper. I just told him about my experience with the Vet trying to get copies. Normally, don't tell him everything unless there is a need. Didn't want to start anything. I have a question and probably morbid: Is there anyway they can find out how longpet has been dead before they are returned back to their owners. I know they can on humans. What I think is funny is that he was put in a Science Diet box and it was tape very well. You would have to use a knife to open it. I didn't open the box to look at him really didn't want to see him that way. I wanted to remember as he was. Maybe I should have. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/
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Yay! Good work Belinda, that's info we could all use at some point, I'm sure! Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.htmlFind us on PETFINDER! http://petfinder.com/shelters/VT44.html No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.19/507 - Release Date: 10/31/2006
Re: Vet Records/Morbid question
It is not unusual for vets to wrap an animal in a box/plastic bag for the family. My vets do it and I have had others do it. It is a matter of people often do not want to see the little one after he has left and secondly there are bodily changes that may be unpleasant for the people to deal with. Like I said, my vets do this for me then I remove my little friend and put him/her in a box of my choosing for burial. I am not happy with the vet's refusal to give you copies of the files. However, I do not find the box to be a problem. He may well have been trying to do you a favor by fixing Dukee's body for burial. Did you talk to the vet or a vet tech re getting the records? It is terrible that you are having to deal with this now. Please do not drive yourself crazy by doubting yourself. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:21 PM Subject: Re: Vet Records/Morbid question My husband thinks Dukee died the same day he had the surgery and they wanted to make the bucks for having him over the weekend. He is using some curse words right now. Not a happy camper. I just told him about my experience with the Vet trying to get copies. Normally, don't tell him everything unless there is a need. Didn't want to start anything. I have a question and probably morbid: Is there anyway they can find out how longpet has been dead before they are returned back to their owners. I know they can on humans. What I think is funny is that he was put in a Science Diet box and it was tape very well. You would have to use a knife to open it. I didn't open the box to look at him really didn't want to see him that way. I wanted to remember as he was. Maybe I should have. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/
Re: Vet Records
Geez Terrie, as if you didn't have enough to deal with right now. They always give me the records. I have a habit of going through the chart when i am waiting. They don't seem to care. You have gotten some good advice. Those are the things i would do. God bless, Dede --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know all I wanted was copies of them and nothing more. I have to admit it does make me a little suspicious though. Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail (http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/)
Re: Vet Records/Morbid question
That's sad, a Science Diet box I now cremate, but before I moved up north (where you can't dig graves 7 months of the year due to frozen ground), I'd had a cat that had been euthanised. The vet I used had special cardboard "coffins". They even lined them with baby blankets (I now donate all baby blankets to vets in order for them to provide this to others, because it was such a comfort to me). They were special made boxes JUST for returning cats to owners who wished to take them home to be buried. There was NO tape, and the cat looked for all the world likehe were sleeping peacefully. My cremains also come in a plastic "urn", NOT in a box or baggie. I can't even fathom the horrible bedside manner of a vet that would even consider throwing the remains of someone's pet into a old, left-over box from that day's UPS delivery. I never knew any vet did that, I guess I have been very lucky to have very compassionate and caring vets! Come to think of it, what a great cause we could work towards... if we all made arrangements with our local vets to knit or crochet "baby" blankets for the specific use of giving to pet owners whohad a cat euthanised or die at their clinics. I know I have a long winter coming and could use a hobby. I can't even communicate how much difference the simple gesture of putting a baby blanket in my baby's coffin when they brought his body out to me meant it was very special. Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.htmlFind us on PETFINDER! http://petfinder.com/shelters/VT44.html No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.19/507 - Release Date: 10/31/2006
Re: Vet Records
According to the AVMA website, Veterinarians are obligated to provide copies or summaries of medical records when requested by the client. Veterinarians should secure a written release to document that request. Perhaps you could contact your state board? But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. -- Chief Dan George The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long... --Blade Runner - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:44 am Subject: Vet Records To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi all, I ask for the records on Dukee they won't release them to me. They said the only way they would release them if another Vet requested them. Then it would be by fax only. This is the first time I have ever been turned down getting any Vet records. Is this right? I can tell you I'm getting disappointed in some Vets in the area I moved to. Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/)
Re: Vet Records/Morbid question
I understand how wonderful it was to get your friend back in this manner. However, the vets I know very caringly use boxes and, more often, trash bags for wrapping. I know the vets involved in the trash bag wrapping. They are extremely caring and if they knowyou are bringing a box of your own, try to remove the bag. They use plastic because of the fluids released naturally. I know this is not really comforting but it is a reality check. The SD box would not be out of order in my world. I would prefer all little ones came home differently--that is why I get my own boxes, usually cedar, pine or oak. Don't think me insensitive. I have buried too many of my own and they all have granite markers that anyone would be pleased to use for a child. Just don't dwell on the box. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 5:49 PM Subject: Re: Vet Records/Morbid question That's sad, a Science Diet box I now cremate, but before I moved up north (where you can't dig graves 7 months of the year due to frozen ground), I'd had a cat that had been euthanised. The vet I used had special cardboard "coffins". They even lined them with baby blankets (I now donate all baby blankets to vets in order for them to provide this to others, because it was such a comfort to me). They were special made boxes JUST for returning cats to owners who wished to take them home to be buried. There was NO tape, and the cat looked for all the world likehe were sleeping peacefully. My cremains also come in a plastic "urn", NOT in a box or baggie. I can't even fathom the horrible bedside manner of a vet that would even consider throwing the remains of someone's pet into a old, left-over box from that day's UPS delivery. I never knew any vet did that, I guess I have been very lucky to have very compassionate and caring vets! Come to think of it, what a great cause we could work towards... if we all made arrangements with our local vets to knit or crochet "baby" blankets for the specific use of giving to pet owners whohad a cat euthanised or die at their clinics. I know I have a long winter coming and could use a hobby. I can't even communicate how much difference the simple gesture of putting a baby blanket in my baby's coffin when they brought his body out to me meant it was very special. Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.htmlFind us on PETFINDER! http://petfinder.com/shelters/VT44.html No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.19/507 - Release Date: 10/31/2006
