Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
Hi Lorrie, I've looked around and on ebay too, but I can't seem to find many bulk deals for cat collars. The most I've seen was for 6 and they weren't break aways. Where do you usually get them from? If you don't mind... From: Lorrie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 4:09:39 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars On 05-24, paola cresti wrote: snipped.. > If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since > they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil > people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them. > > It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got > themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do > learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that > I want people to know "this cat is looked after!!" My cats have gotten their paws thru the collar at times, but now they've learned to get rid of the collars without getting caught. This is why I buy collars & ID tags by the dozen. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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You sound like me! Only, I was afraid someone would sit on the thing and get a tail suck into it! Yeowww! So yes, unplugged. Actually, it's best to leave appliances unplugged when not in use. Some of them use energy even when not "turned on." ~Bonnie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:38 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I just had a thought. I was shredding som paper and realized tat someone could get their paw in it and be shredded. I will now ALWAYS unplug it when not in use. MaiMaiPG wrote: > I suspect that I will start having my little guys (and dog) scanned > when I have them at a vet's just to make sure the chip is where it s > supposed to be. > On May 24, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Natalie wrote: > > > My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have > > canners, and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has > > been micro chipped. > > I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost > > cat-escape-proof. > > Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the garage > > for recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage > > all the way the night before...when the morning person opened the > > garage door, the cat just flew out. He was extremely shy, and it > > was snowy and extremely cold in an area he didn't know (he was going > > back to his feeding source in the next > > town). This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around. > > Who knows > > where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came > > from.a microchip wouldn't have done any good with him. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola > > cresti > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > > > I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and > > far apart. > > That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip > > was introduced. > > I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only > > (goes outside when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the > > doorhadle - smart little > > critter) > > so she's chipped but collarless. > > > > The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go > > through the time when they're missing and then I have to look for > > them, so they have a collar > > > > with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them > > up they have the chip) that tells the neighbours "I'm taken care > > of!!" > > But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find > > that he slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily > > thre-legged) another time he got it stuck in his mouth or just that > > he's managed to get himself rid of it. > > But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets > > rid of them, but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, > > he's gotten himself stuf on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I > > had to get ladder and chase him because then he didn't want to be > > caught) > > > > This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten > > himself stuck on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars > > without getting stuck anymore. > > > > If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since > > they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil > > people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them. > > > > It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves > > stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty > > fast, and there are so > > > > many strays/ferals around that I want people to know "this cat is > > looked after!!" (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those) > > > > > > > > > > From: Katy Doyle > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > > > Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power. > > > > But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cance
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I just had a thought. I was shredding som paper and realized tat someone could get their paw in it and be shredded. I will now ALWAYS unplug it when not in use. MaiMaiPG wrote: > I suspect that I will start having my little guys (and dog) scanned > when I have them at a vet's just to make sure the chip is where it s > supposed to be. > On May 24, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Natalie wrote: > > > My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have > > canners, > > and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has been micro > > chipped. > > I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost > > cat-escape-proof. > > Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the garage > > for > > recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage all > > the way > > the night before...when the morning person opened the garage door, > > the cat > > just flew out. He was extremely shy, and it was snowy and extremely > > cold in > > an area he didn't know (he was going back to his feeding source in > > the next > > town). This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around. > > Who knows > > where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came > > from.a > > microchip wouldn't have done any good with him. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > > > I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far > > apart. > > That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip > > was > > introduced. > > I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes > > outside > > when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart > > little > > critter) > > so she's chipped but collarless. > > > > The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go > > through the > > time > > when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have > > a collar > > > > with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them > > up they > > have > > the chip) that tells the neighbours "I'm taken care of!!" > > But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find > > that he > > slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged) > > another > > time > > he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get > > himself rid of > > it. > > But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets > > rid of > > them, > > but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten > > himself > > stuf > > on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase > > him > > because > > then he didn't want to be caught) > > > > This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten > > himself > > stuck > > on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting > > stuck > > anymore. > > > > If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since > > they go > > out, I > > don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they > > know that > > someone WILL be looking for them. > > > > It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves > > stuck > > with > > the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and > > there are so > > > > many strays/ferals around that I want people to know "this cat is > > looked > > after!!" (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those) > > > > > > > > > > From: Katy Doyle > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > > > Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power. > > > > But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but > > you > > can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/ > > > > Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get > > tattoos, but I have never heard
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Why not have fencing on concrete? I would think that would prevent anything from digging under the fence. I can see putting it below ground level so nothing digs under. You also need to put a row of shingles over the wire. When the racons, etc start digging, they run into the shingles and stop digging. I planned on using 1/4" hardware cloth. That is what I use to keep possums and rcoons out of my "vegie" pots. Chicken wire they just ly on and pull the tomatoes up so they can eat at their leisure. Natalie wrote: > That's an excellent idea. Just make sure that if the fence is placed on the > ground and not a slab of concrete or decking, that the fence goes down at > least 6" so nothing can dig under and into it. Also, use turkey wire or > 1/4"-1/2" hardware cloth - NOT chicken wire - it is much too weak for a > mountain lion, coyote, etc. Even some very determined cats can bend and rip > through chicken wire! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > dlg...@windstream.net > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 12:35 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > Forgot, I am hoping to fence in an area about 10' x 12' wit fencing over the > top so they can stay out longer. This last idea came as a result of the > appearance of a mountain lion the last 2 years. He hs never offered to > attack me or the cats, but he usually had a deer carcass he was working on > since he shows up around deer season and some of the hunters don't track > down (more likely, too lazy to) their wounded deer and finish them. So they > run till they drop and the lion, coyotes, wolf and bear around here eat > well. The lion was only the distnce between 2 utility poles from my mailbox > each time I saw him and he just looked at me and strolled across the road. > Lorrie wrote: > > On 05-25, MaiMaiPG wrote: > > > How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs? > > > > We live in a private resort area, and all dogs must be inside > > or on a leash. I have never seen a coyote, but just in case I > > always bring all our cats inside at night. Believe it or not > > they dutifully come when I call them. > > > > Lorrie > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I think they are supposed to wear a collar with a tag from Home Again or which ever company issued the microchip but you have the collar issue again. On May 27, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Natalie wrote: But how would anyone know that a cat is micro chipped and has a home (except for someone with a scanner)? There's nothing outward to indicate to anyone, like an evildoer, that there's a microchip and someone cares about the cat? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 12:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Wholesale buying is a good idea, but with 7 cats, that could get expensive. I guess that I am lucky, my guys all stick pretty close to home and my neighbors are at least 6/10's of a mile from me. Lorrie wrote: On 05-24, paola cresti wrote: snipped.. If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them. It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that I want people to know "this cat is looked after!!" My cats have gotten their paws thru the collar at times, but now they've learned to get rid of the collars without getting caught. This is why I buy collars & ID tags by the dozen. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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But how would anyone know that a cat is micro chipped and has a home (except for someone with a scanner)? There's nothing outward to indicate to anyone, like an evildoer, that there's a microchip and someone cares about the cat? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 12:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Wholesale buying is a good idea, but with 7 cats, that could get expensive. I guess that I am lucky, my guys all stick pretty close to home and my neighbors are at least 6/10's of a mile from me. Lorrie wrote: > On 05-24, paola cresti wrote: > > snipped.. > > > If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since > > they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil > > people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them. > > > > It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got > > themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do > > learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that > > I want people to know "this cat is looked after!!" > > My cats have gotten their paws thru the collar at times, but now > they've learned to get rid of the collars without getting caught. > This is why I buy collars & ID tags by the dozen. > > Lorrie > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That's an excellent idea. Just make sure that if the fence is placed on the ground and not a slab of concrete or decking, that the fence goes down at least 6" so nothing can dig under and into it. Also, use turkey wire or 1/4"-1/2" hardware cloth - NOT chicken wire - it is much too weak for a mountain lion, coyote, etc. Even some very determined cats can bend and rip through chicken wire! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 12:35 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Forgot, I am hoping to fence in an area about 10' x 12' wit fencing over the top so they can stay out longer. This last idea came as a result of the appearance of a mountain lion the last 2 years. He hs never offered to attack me or the cats, but he usually had a deer carcass he was working on since he shows up around deer season and some of the hunters don't track down (more likely, too lazy to) their wounded deer and finish them. So they run till they drop and the lion, coyotes, wolf and bear around here eat well. The lion was only the distnce between 2 utility poles from my mailbox each time I saw him and he just looked at me and strolled across the road. Lorrie wrote: > On 05-25, MaiMaiPG wrote: > > How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs? > > We live in a private resort area, and all dogs must be inside > or on a leash. I have never seen a coyote, but just in case I > always bring all our cats inside at night. Believe it or not > they dutifully come when I call them. > > Lorrie > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The best times for your brood to be outside more safely from coyotes are between 10 AM and 5 PM during the summer - more restrictive hours when days are shorter. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 12:29 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars i ALSO BRING MY PRIDE IN AT NIGHT. Course, the coyotes are also out during the day. My guys only stay out an hour or so unless I am also outside and then they stay close to me so they can aggrevate me while i m planting flowers and moving rocks. for 30 years now I have not lost one dog or cat to coyotes. I am not sure if it is just luck or what. Lorrie wrote: > On 05-25, MaiMaiPG wrote: > > How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs? > > We live in a private resort area, and all dogs must be inside > or on a leash. I have never seen a coyote, but just in case I > always bring all our cats inside at night. Believe it or not > they dutifully come when I call them. > > Lorrie > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Wholesale buying is a good idea, but with 7 cats, that could get expensive. I guess that I am lucky, my guys all stick pretty close to home and my neighbors are at least 6/10's of a mile from me. Lorrie wrote: > On 05-24, paola cresti wrote: > > snipped.. > > > If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since > > they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil > > people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them. > > > > It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got > > themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do > > learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that > > I want people to know "this cat is looked after!!" > > My cats have gotten their paws thru the collar at times, but now > they've learned to get rid of the collars without getting caught. > This is why I buy collars & ID tags by the dozen. > > Lorrie > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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RE; MICROCHIPS I was not aware the chips migrated. I only have 1 cat chiped, Nitnoy. She hasen't had any problems. Got to check with my vet on that and the cancer. On cancer, the University of Missouri if opening an Animal Cancer Care in Wentzville which is only 1/ 2 hour drive from me. I am glad for that, driving to Columbia is hard to do and takes a lot more gas. AS TO ANIMAL SHELTERS, IN LINCOLN COUNTY, THEY CALL IT ANIMAL CONTROL AND THEY JUST TAKE THEM OUT ALONG THE HIGHWAY AND SHOOT THEM. fORTUNATELY, WE HAVE A NO KILL SHELTER IN tROY. rIGHT NOW THEY AND OTHERS IN NEARBY COUNTIES ARE FULL UP WITH DOGS AND CATS AS PEOPLE ARE JUST TURNING THEIR ANIMALS LOOSE WHEN THEY LOOSE THEIR HOUSE AND JOB. iT IS HARDER ON THE ANIMALS I THINK AS WE HAVE MADE THEM DEPENDENT ON US FOR FOOD AND SHELTER AND TAUGHT THEM TO OVE AND TRUST AND THN TURNED THEM OUT TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES. Natalie wrote: > Easy - not a single cat goes outside - they have safe outdoor enclosures! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 7:29 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs? > On May 25, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Lorrie wrote: > > > On 05-24, Natalie wrote: > > > >> But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat > >> from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already > >> migrated! > > > > Yes, and this is one of the reasons I don't microchip. The other > > reason is because we live in a very rural area, and our animal > > shelter has no microchip scanner... Cats are not worth > > dealing with at that awful place. They simply gas and incinerate > > them about as fast as they come in. Which is why I now have my > > own sanctuary/shelter building in town, in addition to having 15 > > cats at home. My santuary cats do not go outside, but my cats at > > home do because we live on a dead end road in the middle of the > > woods. It's a very safe area. > > > > Lorrie > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Forgot, I am hoping to fence in an area about 10' x 12' wit fencing over the top so they can stay out longer. This last idea came as a result of the appearance of a mountain lion the last 2 years. He hs never offered to attack me or the cats, but he usually had a deer carcass he was working on since he shows up around deer season and some of the hunters don't track down (more likely, too lazy to) their wounded deer and finish them. So they run till they drop and the lion, coyotes, wolf and bear around here eat well. The lion was only the distnce between 2 utility poles from my mailbox each time I saw him and he just looked at me and strolled across the road. Lorrie wrote: > On 05-25, MaiMaiPG wrote: > > How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs? > > We live in a private resort area, and all dogs must be inside > or on a leash. I have never seen a coyote, but just in case I > always bring all our cats inside at night. Believe it or not > they dutifully come when I call them. > > Lorrie > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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i ALSO BRING MY PRIDE IN AT NIGHT. Course, the coyotes are also out during the day. My guys only stay out an hour or so unless I am also outside and then they stay close to me so they can aggrevate me while i m planting flowers and moving rocks. for 30 years now I have not lost one dog or cat to coyotes. I am not sure if it is just luck or what. Lorrie wrote: > On 05-25, MaiMaiPG wrote: > > How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs? > > We live in a private resort area, and all dogs must be inside > or on a leash. I have never seen a coyote, but just in case I > always bring all our cats inside at night. Believe it or not > they dutifully come when I call them. > > Lorrie > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Mine don't have authorized walks but Copper has been known to take an unauthorized one---and panic me. Lorrie was taling about the safety of her area though. I have a similar set up but .. and wonder how she deals with it. On May 25, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Natalie wrote: Easy - not a single cat goes outside - they have safe outdoor enclosures! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 7:29 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs? On May 25, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Lorrie wrote: On 05-24, Natalie wrote: But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! Yes, and this is one of the reasons I don't microchip. The other reason is because we live in a very rural area, and our animal shelter has no microchip scanner... Cats are not worth dealing with at that awful place. They simply gas and incinerate them about as fast as they come in. Which is why I now have my own sanctuary/shelter building in town, in addition to having 15 cats at home. My santuary cats do not go outside, but my cats at home do because we live on a dead end road in the middle of the woods. It's a very safe area. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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On 05-25, MaiMaiPG wrote: > How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs? We live in a private resort area, and all dogs must be inside or on a leash. I have never seen a coyote, but just in case I always bring all our cats inside at night. Believe it or not they dutifully come when I call them. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Easy - not a single cat goes outside - they have safe outdoor enclosures! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 7:29 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs? On May 25, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Lorrie wrote: > On 05-24, Natalie wrote: > >> But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat >> from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already >> migrated! > > Yes, and this is one of the reasons I don't microchip. The other > reason is because we live in a very rural area, and our animal > shelter has no microchip scanner... Cats are not worth > dealing with at that awful place. They simply gas and incinerate > them about as fast as they come in. Which is why I now have my > own sanctuary/shelter building in town, in addition to having 15 > cats at home. My santuary cats do not go outside, but my cats at > home do because we live on a dead end road in the middle of the > woods. It's a very safe area. > > Lorrie > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs? On May 25, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Lorrie wrote: On 05-24, Natalie wrote: But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! Yes, and this is one of the reasons I don't microchip. The other reason is because we live in a very rural area, and our animal shelter has no microchip scanner... Cats are not worth dealing with at that awful place. They simply gas and incinerate them about as fast as they come in. Which is why I now have my own sanctuary/shelter building in town, in addition to having 15 cats at home. My santuary cats do not go outside, but my cats at home do because we live on a dead end road in the middle of the woods. It's a very safe area. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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On 05-24, Natalie wrote: > But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat > from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already > migrated! Yes, and this is one of the reasons I don't microchip. The other reason is because we live in a very rural area, and our animal shelter has no microchip scanner... Cats are not worth dealing with at that awful place. They simply gas and incinerate them about as fast as they come in. Which is why I now have my own sanctuary/shelter building in town, in addition to having 15 cats at home. My santuary cats do not go outside, but my cats at home do because we live on a dead end road in the middle of the woods. It's a very safe area. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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On 05-24, paola cresti wrote: snipped.. > If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since > they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil > people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them. > > It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got > themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do > learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that > I want people to know "this cat is looked after!!" My cats have gotten their paws thru the collar at times, but now they've learned to get rid of the collars without getting caught. This is why I buy collars & ID tags by the dozen. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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there's pluses &minuses to everythging. you have to choose what's best for your situation. I don't let most of my cats out so I don't collar or chip, but for our shelter with over 300 cats to keep track of chips are a godsend Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Natalie wrote: >Here's an article in Washington Post, but I also have info from a holistic >veterinarian on microchips. I will send later when I have time to look >through my files... >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/08/AR2007090800 >997_pf.html > >-Original Message- >From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle >Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > >Do they? Is there documentation on this? > >I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? > >On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie wrote: > >> But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from >> death >> row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! >> >> -Original Message- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle >> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars >> >> I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry >pets. >> There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. >> >> Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray >> animals that come through. >> >> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie wrote: >> >> > I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this >> > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM >> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars >> > >> > I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. >> I've >> > seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their >> > mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption >center >> & >> > luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. >> > >> > Beth >> > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! >www.Furkids.org<http://www.furkids.org/>< >> http://www.furkids.org/> >> > >> > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie wrote: >> > >> > From: Lorrie >> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws >> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM >> > >> > My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so >> > now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for >> > $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and >> > my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable >> > and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost >> > it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. >> > >> > Lorrie >> > >> > >> > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: >> > >> > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny >> > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day >> > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting >> > > right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think >> > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie >> > > >> > >> > ___ >> > Felvtalk mailing list >> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > ___ >> > Felvtalk mailing list >> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Felvtalk mailing list >> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > &
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They are supposed to here and Louisville and I know a lot of vets have scanners (looking for the person of a lost dog who made the mistake of going off the farm). I can hopeand pray that the chps will help but I think I will make sure of their locations in the future. On May 24, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Beth wrote: the ACs here do scan thank goodness. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Natalie wrote: My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have canners, and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has been micro chipped. I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost cat-escape-proof. Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the garage for recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage all the way the night before...when the morning person opened the garage door, the cat just flew out. He was extremely shy, and it was snowy and extremely cold in an area he didn't know (he was going back to his feeding source in the next town). This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around. Who knows where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came from.a microchip wouldn't have done any good with him. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far apart. That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip was introduced. I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes outside when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart little critter) so she's chipped but collarless. The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go through the time when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have a collar with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them up they have the chip) that tells the neighbours "I'm taken care of!!" But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find that he slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged) another time he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get himself rid of it. But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets rid of them, but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten himself stuf on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase him because then he didn't want to be caught) This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten himself stuck on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting stuck anymore. If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them. It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that I want people to know "this cat is looked after!!" (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those) ________ From: Katy Doyle To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power. But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/ Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats. I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in case they get lost. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie wrote: Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the chip I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be "too big" to be accepted by group address. Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie wrote: But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie On 05-23, Bonnie H
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the ACs here do scan thank goodness. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Natalie wrote: >My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have canners, >and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has been micro >chipped. >I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost >cat-escape-proof. >Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the garage for >recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage all the way >the night before...when the morning person opened the garage door, the cat >just flew out. He was extremely shy, and it was snowy and extremely cold in >an area he didn't know (he was going back to his feeding source in the next >town). This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around. Who knows >where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came from.a >microchip wouldn't have done any good with him. > >-Original Message- >From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti >Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > >I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far >apart. >That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip was >introduced. >I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes >outside >when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart little >critter) >so she's chipped but collarless. > >The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go through the >time >when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have a collar > >with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them up they >have >the chip) that tells the neighbours "I'm taken care of!!" >But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find that he >slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged) another >time >he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get himself rid of >it. >But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets rid of >them, >but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten himself >stuf >on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase him >because >then he didn't want to be caught) > >This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten himself >stuck >on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting stuck >anymore. > >If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since they go >out, I >don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they know that >someone WILL be looking for them. > >It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves stuck >with >the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and there are so > >many strays/ferals around that I want people to know "this cat is looked >after!!" (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those) > > > > >From: Katy Doyle >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > >Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power. > >But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you >can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/ > >Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get >tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats. > >I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in >case they get lost. > >On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie wrote: > >> Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip >> migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered >the >> chip >> I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be >"too >> big" to be accepted by group address. >> Do they? Is there documentation on this? >> >> I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? >> >> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie wrote: >> >> > But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from >> > death >> > row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! >> > Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray >> > animals that come through. >> > >> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie wrote: &g
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I suspect that I will start having my little guys (and dog) scanned when I have them at a vet's just to make sure the chip is where it s supposed to be. On May 24, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Natalie wrote: My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have canners, and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has been micro chipped. I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost cat-escape-proof. Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the garage for recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage all the way the night before...when the morning person opened the garage door, the cat just flew out. He was extremely shy, and it was snowy and extremely cold in an area he didn't know (he was going back to his feeding source in the next town). This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around. Who knows where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came from.a microchip wouldn't have done any good with him. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far apart. That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip was introduced. I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes outside when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart little critter) so she's chipped but collarless. The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go through the time when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have a collar with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them up they have the chip) that tells the neighbours "I'm taken care of!!" But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find that he slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged) another time he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get himself rid of it. But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets rid of them, but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten himself stuf on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase him because then he didn't want to be caught) This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten himself stuck on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting stuck anymore. If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them. It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that I want people to know "this cat is looked after!!" (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those) ________ From: Katy Doyle To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power. But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/ Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats. I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in case they get lost. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie wrote: Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the chip I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be "too big" to be accepted by group address. Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie wrote: But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the
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My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have canners, and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has been micro chipped. I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost cat-escape-proof. Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the garage for recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage all the way the night before...when the morning person opened the garage door, the cat just flew out. He was extremely shy, and it was snowy and extremely cold in an area he didn't know (he was going back to his feeding source in the next town). This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around. Who knows where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came from.a microchip wouldn't have done any good with him. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far apart. That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip was introduced. I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes outside when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart little critter) so she's chipped but collarless. The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go through the time when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have a collar with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them up they have the chip) that tells the neighbours "I'm taken care of!!" But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find that he slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged) another time he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get himself rid of it. But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets rid of them, but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten himself stuf on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase him because then he didn't want to be caught) This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten himself stuck on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting stuck anymore. If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them. It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that I want people to know "this cat is looked after!!" (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those) ________ From: Katy Doyle To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power. But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/ Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats. I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in case they get lost. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie wrote: > Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip > migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the > chip > I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be "too > big" to be accepted by group address. > Do they? Is there documentation on this? > > I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie wrote: > > > But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from > > death > > row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! > > Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray > > animals that come through. > > > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie wrote: > > > > > I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this > > > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie > > > > > > > > > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > > > > > > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny > > > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day > > > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting &g
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That is my fear. Cats are rarely bothered with here. They are pests to be ignored or shot. But there are areas between here and Louisville where Copper and Thomas might be cared about. There is a particular concern about wrecks. They and the dog ride in carriers but they can be thrown out of first responders could need information if I was unable to provide it. Same concerns re: fires, tornadoes, etc. I've witnessed too much and these little guys (and the dog) are my life. Re tags on a collar. Bob, the dog, has a metal plate bradded to his collar. I know people with hunting dogs routinely use this instead of tags. I don't know if something similar is available for cat collars or not. Bet one could be altered. On May 24, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Beth wrote: Our shelter microchips all our cats. It allowed us 2 recover 2 that had bee= n turned in as strays to AC. With out the chips they would have been 2 more= dead black cats at AC. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Natalie wrote: From: Natalie Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 3:26 PM But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. tinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far apart. That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip was introduced. I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes outside when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart little critter) so she's chipped but collarless. The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go through the time when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have a collar with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them up they have the chip) that tells the neighbours "I'm taken care of!!" But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find that he slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged) another time he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get himself rid of it. But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets rid of them, but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten himself stuf on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase him because then he didn't want to be caught) This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten himself stuck on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting stuck anymore. If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them. It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that I want people to know "this cat is looked after!!" (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those) ____ From: Katy Doyle To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power. But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/ Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats. I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in case they get lost. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie wrote: > Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip > migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the > chip > I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be "too > big" to be accepted by group address. > Do they? Is there documentation on this? > > I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie wrote: > > > But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from > > death > > row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! > > Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray > > animals that come through. > > > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie wrote: > > > > > I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this > > > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie > > > > > > > > > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > > > > > > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny > > > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day > > > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting > > > > right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think > > > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie > > > > > > >>.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > >> ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I'll keep the chip too. I think the benefits out weigh the risks. There are risks in vaccinations as well. - Original Message - From: "Katy Doyle" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie wrote: But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie wrote: > I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've > seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in > their > mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption > center & > luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. > > Beth > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! > www.Furkids.org<http://www.furkids.org/>< http://www.furkids.org/> > > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie wrote: > > From: Lorrie > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM > > My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so > now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for > $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and > my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable > and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost > it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. > > Lorrie > > > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting > > right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Our shelter microchips all our cats. It allowed us 2 recover 2 that had bee= n turned in as strays to AC. With out the chips they would have been 2 more= dead black cats at AC. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Natalie wrote: From: Natalie Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 3:26 PM But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. tinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I would stay with the chip, not a tattoo. AC scan for chips, but someone would really have to be looking to see a tattoo on a cat. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Katy Doyle wrote: From: Katy Doyle Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 3:47 PM Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power. But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/ Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats. I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in case they get lost. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie wrote: > Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip > migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the > chip > I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be "too > big" to be accepted by group address. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > Do they? Is there documentation on this? > > I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie wrote: > > > But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from > > death > > row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > > > I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry > pets. > > There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. > > > > Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray > > animals that come through. > > > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie wrote: > > > > > I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this > > > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > > > > > I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. > > I've > > > seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in > their > > > mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption > center > > & > > > luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. > > > > > > Beth > > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! > www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/><http://www.furkids.org/>< > > http://www.furkids.org/> > > > > > > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie wrote: > > > > > > From: Lorrie > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM > > > > > > My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so > > > now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for > > > $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and > > > my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable > > > and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost > > > it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. > > > > > > Lorrie > > > > > > > > > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > > > > > > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny > > > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day > > > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting > > > > right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think > > > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie > > > > > > > > > > ___ &g
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One of my rescues got a tattoo on the inside of the ear - "04", meaning the year that he was "done". -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power. But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/ Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats. I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in case they get lost. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie wrote: > Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip > migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the > chip > I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be "too > big" to be accepted by group address. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > Do they? Is there documentation on this? > > I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie wrote: > > > But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from > > death > > row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > > > I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry > pets. > > There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. > > > > Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray > > animals that come through. > > > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie wrote: > > > > > I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this > > > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > > > > > I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. > > I've > > > seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in > their > > > mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption > center > > & > > > luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. > > > > > > Beth > > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! > www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/><http://www.furkids.org/>< > > http://www.furkids.org/> > > > > > > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie wrote: > > > > > > From: Lorrie > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM > > > > > > My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so > > > now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for > > > $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and > > > my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable > > > and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost > > > it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. > > > > > > Lorrie > > > > > > > > > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > > > > > > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny > > > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day > > > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting > > > > right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think > > > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie > > > > > > > > > > ___
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Here's an article in Washington Post, but I also have info from a holistic veterinarian on microchips. I will send later when I have time to look through my files... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/08/AR2007090800 997_pf.html -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie wrote: > But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from > death > row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. > There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. > > Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray > animals that come through. > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie wrote: > > > I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this > > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > > > I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. > I've > > seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their > > mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center > & > > luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. > > > > Beth > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org<http://www.furkids.org/>< > http://www.furkids.org/> > > > > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie wrote: > > > > From: Lorrie > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM > > > > My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so > > now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for > > $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and > > my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable > > and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost > > it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. > > > > Lorrie > > > > > > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > > > > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny > > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day > > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting > > > right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think > > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power. But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/ Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats. I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in case they get lost. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie wrote: > Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip > migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the > chip > I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be "too > big" to be accepted by group address. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > Do they? Is there documentation on this? > > I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie wrote: > > > But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from > > death > > row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > > > I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry > pets. > > There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. > > > > Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray > > animals that come through. > > > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie wrote: > > > > > I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this > > > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > > > > > I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. > > I've > > > seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in > their > > > mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption > center > > & > > > luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. > > > > > > Beth > > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! > www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/><http://www.furkids.org/>< > > http://www.furkids.org/> > > > > > > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie wrote: > > > > > > From: Lorrie > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM > > > > > > My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so > > > now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for > > > $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and > > > my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable > > > and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost > > > it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. > > > > > > Lorrie > > > > > > > > > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > > > > > > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny > > > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day > > > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting > > > > right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think > > > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleu
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Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the chip I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be "too big" to be accepted by group address. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie wrote: > But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from > death > row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. > There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. > > Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray > animals that come through. > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie wrote: > > > I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this > > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > > > I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. > I've > > seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their > > mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center > & > > luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. > > > > Beth > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org<http://www.furkids.org/>< > http://www.furkids.org/> > > > > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie wrote: > > > > From: Lorrie > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM > > > > My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so > > now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for > > $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and > > my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable > > and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost > > it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. > > > > Lorrie > > > > > > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > > > > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny > > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day > > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting > > > right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think > > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Do they? Is there documentation on this? I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie wrote: > But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from > death > row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. > There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. > > Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray > animals that come through. > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie wrote: > > > I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this > > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > > > I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. > I've > > seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their > > mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center > & > > luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. > > > > Beth > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org<http://www.furkids.org/>< > http://www.furkids.org/> > > > > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie wrote: > > > > From: Lorrie > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM > > > > My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so > > now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for > > $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and > > my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable > > and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost > > it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. > > > > Lorrie > > > > > > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > > > > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny > > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day > > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting > > > right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think > > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer? I got a cat from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie wrote: > I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've > seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their > mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center & > luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. > > Beth > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/> > > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie wrote: > > From: Lorrie > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM > > My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so > now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for > $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and > my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable > and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost > it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. > > Lorrie > > > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting > > right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have both for the dog because people are more likely to catch and check on a dog's person here. The cats are microchipped even though they are technically indoors only. Copper and Thomas travel with me and it offers protection in case of a wreckor in case Copper takes an unauthorized walk...again. People don't seem overly concerned about cats (shame). I had a problem with a break-away on Mi Tu. She hung her paw in it and it did not allow her to escape it. In fact, had I not been home, she could have strangled herself. No more collars for my cats. On May 24, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Katy Doyle wrote: I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center & luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/ > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie wrote: From: Lorrie Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think so." Sigh. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I agree Katy. I get those notices all the time through my email from "Home Again" (the microchip company) that notifies lost pets in your area. My vet scans stray animals often as well. It's a great thing to have! It costs $16 a year for the membership. Lynda - Original Message - From: "Katy Doyle" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie wrote: I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center & luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/> --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie wrote: From: Lorrie Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting > right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets. There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20. Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray animals that come through. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie wrote: > I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars > > I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've > seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their > mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center & > luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. > > Beth > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/> > > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie wrote: > > From: Lorrie > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM > > My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so > now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for > $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and > my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable > and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost > it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. > > Lorrie > > > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting > > right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
I JUST wrote about that, too! I thought I was the only one that this happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center & luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie wrote: From: Lorrie Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting > right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center & luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie wrote: From: Lorrie Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for $19.00 and free shipping. I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and my phone number, nothing else. This way they are all interchangable and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost it's collar. Some are very clever about getting them off. Lorrie On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting > right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
