Re: my baby

[dede hicken]

Yeah, they sure know when they've got a good thing
going.  I had one that wanted his head petted lightly
while eating.  He did finally recover after he had
sucked me dry time-wise.  Oh, the things we do for
love !!!

Dede



--- Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have to tell you guys about BooBoo's new regime. 
> It involves taking him out in the patio twice a day
> for fresh air and nature.  He's really enjoying it. 
> He watches and listens to the birds for about 10 to
> 15 minutes at a time.  I think it does him a world
> of good.  Today he walked into the living room after
> his outdoor adventure, which is unusual, and was
> waving his tail in Lennie's face who was sleeping on
> the sofa.  This woke Len up who just stared at him. 
> Then Bob was feeding Len some silly cat treats and
> BooBoo who usually cowers from him, got up marched
> right over to Len and hissed at him.  Totally out of
> character.  Lennie who in his day would lay ruin to
> any animal who entered his yard just left and went
> back to bed.  On the way to the stairs Boo tore the
> hell out of the bottom stair carpet and boinged
> upstairs.  I had brought his food up but he
> literally threw himself down in front of it, put his
> head between his paws and sulked until Bob came up
> and encouraged him to eat.  It's getting ridiculous.
>  He wants both of us to feed him and stay with him
> til he's done.  So far the Lasix seems to be keeping
> the fluid under control and he's breathing normally.
> 
> 
> Hope you all have a wonderful weekend.
> Lynne 
> 


"When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service 
of your God"
   Mosiah 2:17


  

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RE: my baby

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

This is wonderful news about BooBoo Lynne! Thanks for letting know! You
guys have a great weekend too!
Kerry



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: my baby


I have to tell you guys about BooBoo's new regime.  It involves taking
him out in the patio twice a day for fresh air and nature.  He's really
enjoying it.  He watches and listens to the birds for about 10 to 15
minutes at a time.  I think it does him a world of good.  Today he
walked into the living room after his outdoor adventure, which is
unusual, and was waving his tail in Lennie's face who was sleeping on
the sofa.  This woke Len up who just stared at him.  Then Bob was
feeding Len some silly cat treats and BooBoo who usually cowers from
him, got up marched right over to Len and hissed at him.  Totally out of
character.  Lennie who in his day would lay ruin to any animal who
entered his yard just left and went back to bed.  On the way to the
stairs Boo tore the hell out of the bottom stair carpet and boinged
upstairs.  I had brought his food up but he literally threw himself down
in front of it, put his head between his paws and sulked until Bob came
up and encouraged him to eat.  It's getting ridiculous.  He wants both
of us to feed him and stay with him til he's done.  So far the Lasix
seems to be keeping the fluid under control and he's breathing normally.

 
Hope you all have a wonderful weekend.
Lynne
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Re: my baby

[Marylyn]

This is wonderful.
On Feb 22, 2008, at 1:02 PM, laurieskatz wrote:


Thank-you for this encouraging and HAPPY update!
God bless us all!
Laurie
- Original Message -
From: Lynne
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:57 PM
Subject: my baby

I have to tell you guys about BooBoo's new regime.  It involves  
taking him out in the patio twice a day for fresh air and nature.   
He's really enjoying it.  He watches and listens to the birds for  
about 10 to 15 minutes at a time.  I think it does him a world of  
good.  Today he walked into the living room after his outdoor  
adventure, which is unusual, and was waving his tail in Lennie's  
face who was sleeping on the sofa.  This woke Len up who just stared  
at him.  Then Bob was feeding Len some silly cat treats and BooBoo  
who usually cowers from him, got up marched right over to Len and  
hissed at him.  Totally out of character.  Lennie who in his day  
would lay ruin to any animal who entered his yard just left and went  
back to bed.  On the way to the stairs Boo tore the hell out of the  
bottom stair carpet and boinged upstairs.  I had brought his food up  
but he literally threw himself down in front of it, put his head  
between his paws and sulked until Bob came up and encouraged him to  
eat.  It's getting ridiculous.  He wants both of us to feed him and  
stay with him til he's done.  So far the Lasix seems to be keeping  
the fluid under control and he's breathing normally.


Hope you all have a wonderful weekend.
Lynne

Re: my baby

[laurieskatz]

Thank-you for this encouraging and HAPPY update!
God bless us all!
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:57 PM
  Subject: my baby


  I have to tell you guys about BooBoo's new regime.  It involves taking him 
out in the patio twice a day for fresh air and nature.  He's really enjoying 
it.  He watches and listens to the birds for about 10 to 15 minutes at a time.  
I think it does him a world of good.  Today he walked into the living room 
after his outdoor adventure, which is unusual, and was waving his tail in 
Lennie's face who was sleeping on the sofa.  This woke Len up who just stared 
at him.  Then Bob was feeding Len some silly cat treats and BooBoo who usually 
cowers from him, got up marched right over to Len and hissed at him.  Totally 
out of character.  Lennie who in his day would lay ruin to any animal who 
entered his yard just left and went back to bed.  On the way to the stairs Boo 
tore the hell out of the bottom stair carpet and boinged upstairs.  I had 
brought his food up but he literally threw himself down in front of it, put his 
head between his paws and sulked until Bob came up and encouraged him to eat.  
It's getting ridiculous.  He wants both of us to feed him and stay with him til 
he's done.  So far the Lasix seems to be keeping the fluid under control and 
he's breathing normally. 

  Hope you all have a wonderful weekend.
  Lynne 

RE: My baby, Olive has become free now --my 4th loss to FIP..

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Peggy, thank you so much for your kindness -- now I am 
crying again -- I will try to focus on the fact that they are at a better place 
now and free from all the pains..it's just so hard.. I miss them so 
much..


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peggy 
AnkneySent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 5:29 PMTo: 
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: My baby, Olive has become 
free now --my 4th loss to FIP..


Dear Hideyo,
 
I am so, so sorry for all the pain 
you are going thorough with your recent losses.  You know rationally that you have done 
everything you could to give your kitties a few months or perhaps years of a 
happy and secure and loved life, so please don’t let yourself feel guilty for 
any decision you’ve made.  Your 
intentions were and are (as are all of ours) to do whatever we can for the 
animals we so dearly love.  You have 
given all four of them food, shelter, warmth, and care.  Be gentle with yourself, and don’t 
second-guess your decision to help little Olive to the bridge.  Hold on to the images you have of her 
sweetly sleeping the way cats do -  with her little paws tucked in 
underneath her and the contented look on her face.  She was lucky to have had you for the 
short time she was here.  
 
-Peggy 

RE: My baby, Olive has become free now --my 4th loss to FIP..

[Peggy Ankney]

Dear Hideyo,

 

I am so, so sorry for all the pain you are going thorough
with your recent losses.  You know
rationally that you have done everything you could to give your kitties a few
months or perhaps years of a happy and secure and loved life, so please don’t
let yourself feel guilty for any decision you’ve made.  Your intentions were and are (as are all
of ours) to do whatever we can for the animals we so dearly love.  You have given all four of them food,
shelter, warmth, and care.  Be
gentle with yourself, and don’t second-guess your decision to help little
Olive to the bridge.  Hold on to the
images you have of her sweetly sleeping the way cats do -  with her little paws tucked in underneath
her and the contented look on her face. 
She was lucky to have had you for the short time she was here.  

 

-Peggy 

RE: My baby, Olive has become free now --my 4th loss to FIP..

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

I am so stupid and out of it,,, I can't even spell my 
cat's name --- I meant "Olive" -- I am sorry Olive I am just so 
scattered..


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo 
YamamotoSent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 12:09 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; CRF Family; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Oliver has become free now --my 4th 
loss to FIP..


I had to let Olive free from her body this morning -- she seemed to be in so much 
pain from the emergency clinic trip, since last night, she has had 
seizures almost every 15 minu or so last nigth even after valium and I couldn't 
let her continue that way.. I usually have a very difficult time to help assist 
them cross any of my kitties, because I 
can't let go of them. and I never know what they 
want for sure.. but this time,, it was very difficult to see Olive go 
through the seizures so many times as she seemed to be in so mcuh pain..it seems very selfish of me to let her be how she 
was.. I had someone come over and assisted her cross a little while ago-- of course, I have so much 
gult now and don't know what to do with the 
feeling.. though logically, I could convince myself that I did a right 
thing..  i just don't feel right and  I have a regret already -- I am 
feeling numb right now at the same time, I am feeling awful about what i 
did..
I was talking to dr. 
Addie from University of glagslow who has done research for FIP for the past two 
decades, and she was explaining to me how FIP is the disease that we human 
create by domesticating our kitties and keeping them indoor -- please don't get 
me wrong.. she was not suggesting that keeping cats indoor was a bad thing.. but 
there is a price to pay when you have multiple of animals in the house.. as 
feces from litter box is the most common way to get the corona virus and as they 
shed from feces -- and out in wild, FIP is much less common due to the fact that 
they don't use litter boxes obviously... and that's what I meant when I produced 
the disease and not separating them in a small group..  There are a few 
people on FIP support list who have lost several of their kitties to FIP --- it 
can be sproadic and usually is.. but sometimes, it's epidemic.. and when it 
happens it's very scary..as you already know..
I am so afraid 
thinking what's now, what's next -- as I am trying not to create a problem 
before it even happens.. but you just have to understand.. my Oliver was just 
fine (or at least I thought which was my very bad) until last night.. it seemed 
progressed so quickly and never seen anything like it... 
Everyone, prlease pray 
that my olive is at peace and feel free and my Dharma, Naomi and Peter are 
greeting at her at the rainbow bridge.. 

Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!

[catatonya]

More prayers for you and Tsubomi, Hideyo.     tcindy reasoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Hideyo, I am sending prayers to you and Tsubomi. Ihope she can pull through this.Cindy Reasoner--- Hideyo Yamamoto<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Well - I talked to three vets and they feel that I> am doing everything> I can for her right now and they don't have any> other suggestions and> she gets really stressed out and I am not wanting to> put her through ---> epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix - they have> been all suggested by> at least one of them - but her being felk - they are> basically> attributing her symptoms to the illness and they> are very skeptical -> so in a way, I am
 on my own -it's sort of up to me> to try what I thnk it> will help her - though I know that she is losing> blood or have perhaps> now fluid in heart as she has a hard time breathing> after she moves> around ---they took exray on her Friday though they> did not see any> fluid in her chest , but a little in her tummy (not> so much) and that's> why my vet suggested lasix - I am not again wanting> her to go through> the stress of ultrasound as they may not find> anything for sure anyway -> (and they did not see any mass through extray) - I> feel that she is> losing blood as she seems pale and as I understand> there is NOTHING I> can do about it - except I try epogen to see if it> works for her.. I> will see if I can get acemannan -as it was on hold> by the government a> couple of months ago ---> > >
 > > > On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: > > > > Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble> and I need> your help - > > > > She was fine until very recently but noticed that> something was> wrong > > definitely this morning just the way she as> sitting.. so I took> her to > > the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the> emergency> clinic and s > > had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the> transfusion,> now she is > > running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is> reaction from > > transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited> very think> blood and > > tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from> stool.. and I> am very > > scared.. all the blood
 work was normal except high> (50,000 range> of WBC) > > - it could be cancer or it could be some type of> infection.. she> is on > > clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- > > > > > > Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not> really sure> what's > > directly causing it and I really didi not want her> to continue> to be > > checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen> though her> kidney is > > fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it> own't hurt?> Also I > > was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please> any insight> is > > appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I> wanted to do> everything I > > can to make her feel better. > > > >
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Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!

[Lernermichelle]

Hideyo,
  some people on this list have reversed severe anemia in positives 
with a few abdominal injections of acemannan. Have you considered this?
 
Michelle

Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!

[cindy reasoner]

Hideyo, I am sending prayers to you and Tsubomi.  I
hope she can pull through this.

Cindy Reasoner

--- Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well  - I talked to three vets and they feel that I
> am doing everything
> I can for her right now and they don't have any
> other suggestions and
> she gets really stressed out and I am not wanting to
> put her through ---
> epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix - they have
> been all suggested by
> at least one of them - but her being felk - they are
> basically
> attributing  her symptoms to the illness and they
> are very skeptical -
> so in a way, I am on my own -it's sort of up to me
> to try what I thnk it
> will help her - though I know that she is losing
> blood or have perhaps
> now fluid in heart as she has a hard time breathing
> after she moves
> around ---they took exray on her Friday though they
> did not see any
> fluid in her chest , but a little in her tummy (not
> so much) and that's
> why my vet suggested lasix - I am not again wanting
> her to go through
> the stress of ultrasound as they may not find
> anything for sure anyway -
> (and they did not see any mass through extray) - I
> feel that she is
> losing blood as she seems pale and as I understand
> there is NOTHING I
> can do about it - except I try epogen to see if it
> works for her.. I
> will see if I can get acemannan -as it was on hold
> by the government a
> couple of months ago ---
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: 
> 
>
> 
>   Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble
> and I need
> your help - 
> 
>
> 
>   She was fine until very recently but noticed that
> something was
> wrong 
> 
>   definitely this morning just the way she as
> sitting.. so I took
> her to 
> 
>   the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the
> emergency
> clinic and s 
> 
>   had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the
> transfusion,
> now she is 
> 
>   running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is
> reaction from 
> 
>   transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited
> very think
> blood and 
> 
>   tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from
> stool.. and I
> am very 
> 
>   scared.. all the blood work was normal except high
> (50,000 range
> of WBC) 
> 
>   - it could be cancer or it could be some type of
> infection.. she
> is on 
> 
>   clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- 
> 
>   
>   
>   
> 
>   Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not
> really sure
> what's 
> 
>   directly causing it and I really didi not want her
> to continue
> to be 
> 
>   checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen
> though her
> kidney is 
> 
>   fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it
> own't hurt?
> Also I 
> 
>   was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please
> any insight
> is 
> 
>   appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I
> wanted to do
> everything I 
> 
>   can to make her feel better. 
> 
>  
> 
> 


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Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!

[ETrent]

Hideyo, my heart is with you.  I know you love these babies so 
much.  If I ever come back as a cat - I will search you out.  Love and 
light and prayers to you and your clan.
 
love,
elizabeth
 
In a message dated 10/8/2006 12:02:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  I have not given up 
  yet and neither is Tsubomi and we will keep fighgting together somehow until 
  she asks me not to..
   
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kellySent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:35 
  AMTo: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in 
  trouble - please help!
   
  At 09:17 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote:I am so sad 
  for your little baby. It is so hard when it seems not much can be done except 
  to gently assist her across the bridge when she is no longer happy here, It is 
  so painful. Do you have the epogen at home??Please let me know if I can do 
  anything for youKelly
  Well  - I talked to three vets and 
  they feel that I am doing everything I can for her right now and they don’t 
  have any other suggestions and she gets really stressed out and I am not 
  wanting to put her through --- epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix – they 
  have been all suggested by at least one of them – but her being felk – they 
  are basically attributing  her symptoms to the illness and they are very 
  skeptical – so in a way, I am on my own –it’s sort of up to me to try what I 
  thnk it will help her – though I know that she is losing blood or have perhaps 
  now fluid in heart as she has a hard time breathing after she moves around 
  ---they took exray on her Friday though they did not see any fluid in her 
  chest , but a little in her tummy (not so much) and that’s why my vet 
  suggested lasix – I am not again wanting her to go through the stress of 
  ultrasound as they may not find anything for sure anyway – (and they did not 
  see any mass through extray) – I feel that she is losing blood as she seems 
  pale and as I understand there is NOTHING I can do about it – except I try 
  epogen to see if it works for her.. I will see if I can get acemannan –as it 
  was on hold by the government a couple of months ago 
  ---  On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo 
  Yamamoto wrote: 
   
  Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious 
  trouble and I need your help - 
   
  She was fine until very recently but 
  noticed that something was wrong 
  definitely this morning just the way she 
  as sitting.. so I took her to 
  the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her 
  to the emergency clinic and s 
  had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right 
  after the transfusion, now she is 
  running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming 
  that it is reaction from 
  transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, 
  she vomited very think blood and 
  tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood 
  came from stool.. and I am very 
  scared.. all the blood work was normal 
  except high (50,000 range of WBC) 
  - it could be cancer or it could be some 
  type of infection.. she is on 
  clavmox and I just 
  gave her predisolone --- 
  Any insights are appreciated.. the vets 
  are not really sure what's 
  directly causing it and I really didi not 
  want her to continue to be 
  checked out -I was thinking of giving her 
  epogen though her kidney is 
  fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at 
  least it own't hurt? Also I 
  was going to start on interferon 
  tomorrow.. please any insight is 
  appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, 
  and I wanted to do everything I 
  can to make her 
  feel better. 
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Re: My baby Tsubomi is in trouble - please help! - michelle

[Lernermichelle]

I am glad that the bleeding stopped.  Absent an ultrasound, you are 
doing everything you can do. Is she eating at all? Moving around?
Michelle
 
In a message dated 10/8/2006 12:39:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Thank you michelle, I 
  was hoping that you would respond to me – she is on carafate already, but 
  since she is no longer vomiting or having bloody stools, I don’t think she has 
  an internal bleeding.. I don’t know.. I did read when a cat is severe anemia, 
  they will vomit blood and have bloody stools as blood get too concentrated and 
  I feel that that’s what happened – 
   She no longer 
  has high fever – again I am giving her interferon right now – 
  
   
  I have given epogen 
  and predisolone also – but again,, I am  just not sure –I may give her 
  lasix as she has a bit difficult time breathing after she moves around or get 
  streesed out.

 

Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!

[wendy]

Hideyo,

Prayers going out for little Tsubomi.  I hope the
Epogen helps immediately!

:)
Wendy

--- Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well  - I talked to three vets and they feel that I
> am doing everything
> I can for her right now and they don't have any
> other suggestions and
> she gets really stressed out and I am not wanting to
> put her through ---
> epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix - they have
> been all suggested by
> at least one of them - but her being felk - they are
> basically
> attributing  her symptoms to the illness and they
> are very skeptical -
> so in a way, I am on my own -it's sort of up to me
> to try what I thnk it
> will help her - though I know that she is losing
> blood or have perhaps
> now fluid in heart as she has a hard time breathing
> after she moves
> around ---they took exray on her Friday though they
> did not see any
> fluid in her chest , but a little in her tummy (not
> so much) and that's
> why my vet suggested lasix - I am not again wanting
> her to go through
> the stress of ultrasound as they may not find
> anything for sure anyway -
> (and they did not see any mass through extray) - I
> feel that she is
> losing blood as she seems pale and as I understand
> there is NOTHING I
> can do about it - except I try epogen to see if it
> works for her.. I
> will see if I can get acemannan -as it was on hold
> by the government a
> couple of months ago ---
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: 
> 
>
> 
>   Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble
> and I need
> your help - 
> 
>
> 
>   She was fine until very recently but noticed that
> something was
> wrong 
> 
>   definitely this morning just the way she as
> sitting.. so I took
> her to 
> 
>   the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the
> emergency
> clinic and s 
> 
>   had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the
> transfusion,
> now she is 
> 
>   running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is
> reaction from 
> 
>   transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited
> very think
> blood and 
> 
>   tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from
> stool.. and I
> am very 
> 
>   scared.. all the blood work was normal except high
> (50,000 range
> of WBC) 
> 
>   - it could be cancer or it could be some type of
> infection.. she
> is on 
> 
>   clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- 
> 
>   
>   
>   
> 
>   Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not
> really sure
> what's 
> 
>   directly causing it and I really didi not want her
> to continue
> to be 
> 
>   checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen
> though her
> kidney is 
> 
>   fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it
> own't hurt?
> Also I 
> 
>   was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please
> any insight
> is 
> 
>   appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I
> wanted to do
> everything I 
> 
>   can to make her feel better. 
> 
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RE: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Actually I have some, I bought some when
Garfunkle has liver problems.. please send an article,, but I think I would try
– this wouldn’t hurt – thanks, Kelly.

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of kelly
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006
11:31 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: My baby Tsubomi
(felk) is in trouble - please help!



 

At 10:10 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote:



It seems nonregenerative – from recit
count – it showed 1% -



This may be off the wall...but I posted an article from a vet on his opinion
that Sam E or Denosyl for cats and dogs aside from assisting the liver
preserves the RBC and really helps with Anemia, It can be purchased most
places, My cat is on it, It is only a pill,,,do not crush and needs to be given
on an empty stomach,,,2-3 hours before and after mealsI will find the
article and send it again to you.
Kelly





 







From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of kelly
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006
11:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: My baby Tsubomi
(felk) is in trouble - please help!
 
At 09:59 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote:


I understand and would do the same..Please ..559  645-5050 any time, The
carafate is great for the tummy,,,especially if you are using steroids,,Is her
anemia of the regenerative or non regenerative type??



I have not
given up yet and neither is Tsubomi and we will keep fighgting together somehow
until she asks me not to..
 







From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of kelly
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006
10:35 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: My baby Tsubomi
(felk) is in trouble - please help!
 
At 09:17 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote:

I am so sad for your little baby. It is so hard when it seems not much can be
done except to gently assist her across the bridge when she is no longer happy
here, It is so painful. Do you have the epogen at home??Please let me know if I
can do anything for you
Kelly



Well  -
I talked to three vets and they feel that I am doing everything I can for her
right now and they don’t have any other suggestions and she gets really
stressed out and I am not wanting to put her through --- epogen, interferon,
and steroid, lasix – they have been all suggested by at least one of them
– but her being felk – they are basically attributing  her
symptoms to the illness and they are very skeptical – so in a way, I am
on my own –it’s sort of up to me to try what I thnk it will help
her – though I know that she is losing blood or have perhaps now fluid in
heart as she has a hard time breathing after she moves around ---they took
exray on her Friday though they did not see any fluid in her chest , but a
little in her tummy (not so much) and that’s why my vet suggested lasix
– I am not again wanting her to go through the stress of ultrasound as
they may not find anything for sure anyway – (and they did not see any
mass through extray) – I feel that she is losing blood as she seems pale
and as I understand there is NOTHING I can do about it – except I try epogen
to see if it works for her.. I will see if I can get acemannan –as it was
on hold by the government a couple of months ago ---
 
 
On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: 
 
Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and I need your help - 
 
She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was wrong 
definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her to 
the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and s 
had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she is 
running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from 
transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood and 
tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am very 
scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of WBC) 
- it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is on 
clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- 

Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure what's 
directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be 
checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is 
fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it own't hurt? Also I 
was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is 
appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do everything I 
can to make her feel better. 
 
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RE: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!

[kelly]

At 10:10 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote:
It
seems nonregenerative – from recit count – it showed 1%
-
This may be off the wall...but I posted an article from a vet on his
opinion that Sam E or Denosyl for cats and dogs aside from assisting the
liver preserves the RBC and really helps with Anemia, It can be purchased
most places, My cat is on it, It is only a pill,,,do not crush and needs
to be given on an empty stomach,,,2-3 hours before and after mealsI
will find the article and send it again to you.
Kelly


 


From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
kelly
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please
help!
 
At 09:59 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote:

I understand and would do the same..Please ..559  645-5050 any time,
The carafate is great for the tummy,,,especially if you are using
steroids,,Is her anemia of the regenerative or non regenerative
type??

I have
not given up yet and neither is Tsubomi and we will keep fighgting
together somehow until she asks me not to..
 


From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
kelly
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:35 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please
help!
 
At 09:17 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote:
I am so sad for your little baby. It is so hard when it seems not much
can be done except to gently assist her across the bridge when she is no
longer happy here, It is so painful. Do you have the epogen at
home??Please let me know if I can do anything for you
Kelly

Well  - I talked to three vets and they
feel that I am doing everything I can for her right now and they don’t
have any other suggestions and she gets really stressed out and I am not
wanting to put her through --- epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix –
they have been all suggested by at least one of them – but her being felk
– they are basically attributing  her symptoms to the illness and
they are very skeptical – so in a way, I am on my own –it’s sort of up to
me to try what I thnk it will help her – though I know that she is losing
blood or have perhaps now fluid in heart as she has a hard time breathing
after she moves around ---they took exray on her Friday though they did
not see any fluid in her chest , but a little in her tummy (not so much)
and that’s why my vet suggested lasix – I am not again wanting her to go
through the stress of ultrasound as they may not find anything for sure
anyway – (and they did not see any mass through extray) – I feel that she
is losing blood as she seems pale and as I understand there is NOTHING I
can do about it – except I try epogen to see if it works for her.. I will
see if I can get acemannan –as it was on hold by the government a couple
of months ago ---
 
 
On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: 
 
Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and I need your help -

 
She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was wrong

definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her to

the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and s

had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she is

running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from 
transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood and

tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am very

scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of WBC)

- it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is on

clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- 
Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure what's 
directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be

checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is

fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it own't hurt? Also I

was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is 
appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do everything I

can to make her feel better. 
 
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Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!

[TatorBunz]

Hideyo,
I send a bunch of prayers and pray for 
a miracle for Tsubomi. 
Hope she can pull 
through!
 
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RE: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!

[Diane Rosenfeldt]

Hideyo, I am so sorry that Tsubomi is so ill.  Here are vibes that she gets
better.
 
Diane R.

 

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RE: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

It seems nonregenerative – from recit
count – it showed 1% -

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of kelly
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006
11:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: My baby Tsubomi
(felk) is in trouble - please help!



 

At 09:59 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote:


I understand and would do the same..Please ..559  645-5050 any time, The
carafate is great for the tummy,,,especially if you are using steroids,,Is her
anemia of the regenerative or non regenerative type??





I have not given up yet and neither is
Tsubomi and we will keep fighgting together somehow until she asks me not to..
 







From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of kelly
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006
10:35 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: My baby Tsubomi
(felk) is in trouble - please help!
 
At 09:17 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote:

I am so sad for your little baby. It is so hard when it seems not much can be
done except to gently assist her across the bridge when she is no longer happy
here, It is so painful. Do you have the epogen at home??Please let me know if I
can do anything for you
Kelly



Well  -
I talked to three vets and they feel that I am doing everything I can for her
right now and they don’t have any other suggestions and she gets really
stressed out and I am not wanting to put her through --- epogen, interferon,
and steroid, lasix – they have been all suggested by at least one of them
– but her being felk – they are basically attributing  her
symptoms to the illness and they are very skeptical – so in a way, I am
on my own –it’s sort of up to me to try what I thnk it will help
her – though I know that she is losing blood or have perhaps now fluid in
heart as she has a hard time breathing after she moves around ---they took
exray on her Friday though they did not see any fluid in her chest , but a
little in her tummy (not so much) and that’s why my vet suggested lasix
– I am not again wanting her to go through the stress of ultrasound as
they may not find anything for sure anyway – (and they did not see any
mass through extray) – I feel that she is losing blood as she seems pale
and as I understand there is NOTHING I can do about it – except I try
epogen to see if it works for her.. I will see if I can get acemannan –as
it was on hold by the government a couple of months ago ---
 
 
On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: 
 
Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and I need your help - 
 
She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was wrong 
definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her to 
the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and s 
had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she is 
running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from 
transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood and 
tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am very 
scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of WBC) 
- it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is on 
clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- 

Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure what's 
directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be 
checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is 
fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it own't hurt? Also I 
was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is 
appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do everything I 
can to make her feel better. 
 
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RE: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!

[kelly]

At 09:59 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote:

I understand and would do the same..Please ..559  645-5050 any time,
The carafate is great for the tummy,,,especially if you are using
steroids,,Is her anemia of the regenerative or non regenerative
type??

I
have not given up yet and neither is Tsubomi and we will keep fighgting
together somehow until she asks me not to..
 


From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
kelly
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:35 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please
help!
 
At 09:17 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote:
I am so sad for your little baby. It is so hard when it seems not much
can be done except to gently assist her across the bridge when she is no
longer happy here, It is so painful. Do you have the epogen at
home??Please let me know if I can do anything for you
Kelly


Well  - I talked to three vets and they feel that I am doing
everything I can for her right now and they don’t have any other
suggestions and she gets really stressed out and I am not wanting to put
her through --- epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix – they have been
all suggested by at least one of them – but her being felk – they are
basically attributing  her symptoms to the illness and they are very
skeptical – so in a way, I am on my own –it’s sort of up to me to try
what I thnk it will help her – though I know that she is losing blood or
have perhaps now fluid in heart as she has a hard time breathing after
she moves around ---they took exray on her Friday though they did not see
any fluid in her chest , but a little in her tummy (not so much) and
that’s why my vet suggested lasix – I am not again wanting her to go
through the stress of ultrasound as they may not find anything for sure
anyway – (and they did not see any mass through extray) – I feel that she
is losing blood as she seems pale and as I understand there is NOTHING I
can do about it – except I try epogen to see if it works for her.. I will
see if I can get acemannan –as it was on hold by the government a couple
of months ago ---
 
 
On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: 
 
Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and I need your help -

 
She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was wrong

definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her to

the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and s

had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she is

running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from 
transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood and

tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am very

scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of WBC)

- it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is on

clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- 
Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure what's 
directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be

checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is

fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it own't hurt? Also I

was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is 
appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do everything I

can to make her feel better. 
 
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RE: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

I have not given up yet and neither is
Tsubomi and we will keep fighgting together somehow until she asks me not to..

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of kelly
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006
10:35 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: My baby Tsubomi
(felk) is in trouble - please help!



 

At 09:17 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote:

I am so sad for your little baby. It is so hard when it seems not much can be
done except to gently assist her across the bridge when she is no longer happy
here, It is so painful. Do you have the epogen at home??Please let me know if I
can do anything for you
Kelly





Well  - I talked to three vets and
they feel that I am doing everything I can for her right now and they
don’t have any other suggestions and she gets really stressed out and I
am not wanting to put her through --- epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix
– they have been all suggested by at least one of them – but her
being felk – they are basically attributing  her symptoms to the
illness and they are very skeptical – so in a way, I am on my own
–it’s sort of up to me to try what I thnk it will help her –
though I know that she is losing blood or have perhaps now fluid in heart as
she has a hard time breathing after she moves around ---they took exray on her
Friday though they did not see any fluid in her chest , but a little in her
tummy (not so much) and that’s why my vet suggested lasix – I am not
again wanting her to go through the stress of ultrasound as they may not find
anything for sure anyway – (and they did not see any mass through extray)
– I feel that she is losing blood as she seems pale and as I understand
there is NOTHING I can do about it – except I try epogen to see if it
works for her.. I will see if I can get acemannan –as it was on hold by
the government a couple of months ago ---
 
 
On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: 

 

Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and
I need your help - 

 

She was fine until very recently but noticed that
something was wrong 

definitely this morning just the way she as sitting..
so I took her to 

the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the
emergency clinic and s 

had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the
transfusion, now she is 

running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is
reaction from 

transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited
very think blood and 

tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from
stool.. and I am very 

scared.. all the blood work was normal except high
(50,000 range of WBC) 

- it could be cancer or it could be some type of
infection.. she is on 

clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- 



Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really
sure what's 

directly causing it and I really didi not want her to
continue to be 

checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen
though her kidney is 

fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it
own't hurt? Also I 

was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any
insight is 

appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted
to do everything I 

can to make her feel better. 

 
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RE: My baby Tsubomi is in trouble - please help! - michelle

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Thank you michelle, I was hoping that you
would respond to me – she is on carafate already, but since she is no longer
vomiting or having bloody stools, I don’t think she has an internal bleeding..
I don’t know.. I did read when a cat is severe anemia, they will vomit blood
and have bloody stools as blood get too concentrated and I feel that that’s
what happened – 

 She no longer has high fever – again I am
giving her interferon right now – 

 

I have given epogen and predisolone also –
but again,, I am  just not sure –I may give her lasix as she has a bit
difficult time breathing after she moves around or get streesed out.

 









From:
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Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006
5:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: My baby Tsubomi is in
trouble - please help!



 





Hideyo, it sounds like she is anemic from
losing blood, which means that no medicine is going to help her unless it stops
the bleeding. If she has a bleeding ulcer, she should be given Carafate, which
is a medicine that seals up ulcers.  Prednisone can make ulcers
worse.  If she has a bleeding tumor, nothing will help unless the tumor
stops bleeding, which sometimes happens.





 





I would ask for Carafate and maybe do an
ultrasound.  Some vets can do an edoscapy, which is a scope that does not
cut into the body at all, and they need only light anesthesia for it.





 





The fever can come from having a reaction
to the transfusion. Did they give her a benadryl shot? The hospital that did
Simon's transfusions gave him one prophylactically before each transfusion I
think.





 





Michelle





 





In a message dated 10/7/2006 2:22:53 A.M.
Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:







Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and I need your
help –

She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was
wrong definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her to
the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and s had a
traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she is running
fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from transfusion. 
Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood and tons of it.. and now
I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am very scared.. all the blood work
was normal except high (50,000 range of WBC) – it could be cancer or it could
be some type of infection.. she is on clavmox and I just gave her predisolone
--- 

 

Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure what’s
directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be checked
out –I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is fine, I thought
it migh help anemia or at least it own’t hurt? Also I was going to start on
interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is appreciated – she is just a sweet
girl,, and I wanted to do everything I can to make her feel better.









 

Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!

[kelly]

At 09:17 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote:
I am so sad for your little baby. It is so hard when it seems not much
can be done except to gently assist her across the bridge when she is no
longer happy here, It is so painful. Do you have the epogen at
home??Please let  me know if I can do anything for you
Kelly


Well  - I talked to three vets and they feel that I am doing
everything I can for her right now and they don’t have any other
suggestions and she gets really stressed out and I am not wanting to put
her through --- epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix – they have been
all suggested by at least one of them – but her being felk – they are
basically attributing  her symptoms to the illness and they are very
skeptical – so in a way, I am on my own –it’s sort of up to me to try
what I thnk it will help her – though I know that she is losing blood or
have perhaps now fluid in heart as she has a hard time breathing after
she moves around ---they took exray on her Friday though they did not see
any fluid in her chest , but a little in her tummy (not so much) and
that’s why my vet suggested lasix – I am not again wanting her to go
through the stress of ultrasound as they may not find anything for sure
anyway – (and they did not see any mass through extray) – I feel that she
is losing blood as she seems pale and as I understand there is NOTHING I
can do about it – except I try epogen to see if it works for her.. I will
see if I can get acemannan –as it was on hold by the government a couple
of months ago ---
 
 
On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: 


 

Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and I need your
help - 

 

She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was wrong


definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her
to 

the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and
s 

had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she
is 

running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from 

transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood
and 

tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am
very 

scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of
WBC) 

- it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is
on 

clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- 


Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure what's


directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be


checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is


fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it own't hurt? Also I


was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is


appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do
everything I 

can to make her feel better. 


 
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Re: My baby Tsubomi is in trouble - please help!

[Lernermichelle]

Hideyo, it sounds like she is anemic from losing blood, which means that no 
medicine is going to help her unless it stops the bleeding. If she has a 
bleeding ulcer, she should be given Carafate, which is a medicine that seals up 
ulcers.  Prednisone can make ulcers worse.  If she has a bleeding 
tumor, nothing will help unless the tumor stops bleeding, which sometimes 
happens.
 
I would ask for Carafate and maybe do an ultrasound.  Some vets can do 
an edoscapy, which is a scope that does not cut into the body at all, and they 
need only light anesthesia for it.
 
The fever can come from having a reaction to the transfusion. Did they give 
her a benadryl shot? The hospital that did Simon's transfusions gave him one 
prophylactically before each transfusion I think.
 
Michelle
 
In a message dated 10/7/2006 2:22:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  Hi, one of my felk babies is in a 
  serious trouble and I need your help –
  She was fine until very recently 
  but noticed that something was wrong definitely this morning just the way she 
  as sitting.. so I took her to the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the 
  emergency clinic and s had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the 
  transfusion, now she is running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is 
  reaction from transfusion.  Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very 
  think blood and tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and 
  I am very scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of 
  WBC) – it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is on 
  clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- 
   
  Any insights are appreciated.. the 
  vets are not really sure what’s directly causing it and I really didi not want 
  her to continue to be checked out –I was thinking of giving her epogen though 
  her kidney is fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it own’t hurt? 
  Also I was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is 
  appreciated – she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do everything I can 
  to make her feel better.

 

Re: My baby Tsubomi is in trouble - please help!

[kelly]

At 11:21 PM 10/6/2006, you wrote:
How long after the transfusion did they keep herThere are reactions
to transfusions that cause fevers,,Is she bleeding internally anywhere,
If she has some kind of bleed into her stomach that might cause her to
first vomit and then have bloody stool. Was the blood in her stool fresh
(red) or black??
Was ther any signs of blood in her stomach??That makes them nauseated
also and would account for the blood loss and low PCVare they
going to recheck her labs now that she has been transfused??Is she eating
at all now???Are you going to start the Omega interferon??Good choice I
think...Did they do any xray? to see if there were any masses or lesions?
I guess these are all questions..I will be sending many good thought to
you and your baby tonight,,,Please kepp us informed ...
Kelly

Hi, one of my felk
babies is in a serious trouble and I need your help –
She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was wrong
definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her to
the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and s
had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she is
running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from
transfusion.  Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood
and tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am
very scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of
WBC) – it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is
on clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- 
 
Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure what’s
directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be
checked out –I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is
fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it own’t hurt? Also I was
going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is appreciated
– she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do everything I can to make
her feel better.
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Re: my baby crackers

[catatonya]

Had you ever had Crackers tested previously?  Was he vaccinated?  I think it's highly unlikely Crackers got leukemia from Pokemon.  Was Pokeman ever tested?       I don't think you should blame yourself for bringing Pokemon in, and I doubt that is how Crackers got felv.     If Crackers does have felv he sounds very healthy and could live a very long life.  You'll get lots of good advice from this list.       tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   About last Oct. we found Pokemon at our local park. She had a pink collor on and was so tame and lovable. But she was skinny. I thought I was doing an excellent thing
 bringing her home and my son 4 and niece 9 wouldn't have it any other way. She seemed to gain weight when she got here. She was small so i thought she was still a kitten about 4-5 months. Well a few weeks ago Pokemon started "coughing" she got into the basement and had insulation on her nose. So when the coughing was still going on but not as bad I thought she must have sniffed some insulation. Last Monday her breathing semed like a deep hard breathing and she was always so skinny i didn't notice a weight lost. I went down into the basment i live in a triplex...i found rat poisoning in a corner on a shelf. I rushed her to my local animal hospital and they told me that she needed emergency care...so we drove to unniversity of penn animal emergency hospital. They took her right in. I was thinking oh no rat poisoning..we dont even have mice here. Well finally after getting half assed answers and them saying it could be this or that...she told me that Pokemon had an abundancy
 of fluided in her lungs and finally was told that she had lyphomia and that they estimated Pokemon to be between 5-7 yrs old based on teeth and kidney size. To do the full tests and amit her to the ICU unit would be between $6000-$8000 estimate and we needed to put $1300 down. And they were so kind to let us have 5 mins to decide. Also the dr. said that this lyphomia could have been from Feline Aids or Feline Luekemia and that Cracks may have been affected. Now my mind was shot. I decided to euthanize her when they said she was so sick that they also believed she had this for awhile and was little hope. Ok on to Crackers. On the way home from putting Pokemon to sleep I immediately called my vet to get Crackers tested for FIV AND The luekemia. That was Tuesday and today is Saturday. Last nite Friday cracker had his appointment the dr said looks like he will be negative for both but we still have about 2 mins. Well he said oh we do have a positive. As my heart dropped he got
 his book and said feline luekemia. The dot that registared was a little very lite blue dot. I told him to send out the other ultra violet test. They should be back Sun morning and with the holiday if not sun then Mon. He said Crackers looked very Healthy and strong. I asked him over and over being in shock if there were false positives and he said that the test didn't have any. Here is a little of Crackers history: he is my big baby 18.6 lbs..he has NEVER been sick ever...no colds nothing and he only had diareahha 1 day when he was a yr old. He is very loving and happy..has never been outside except when he would run out and i was right after him. That he grew out of. He has a hearty appetite. I leave out food and fresh water 24-7 for him. He lives a very stress free life and is a LOVER boy he loves to purr and be rubbed. I am willing to do anything in the world for him and i will. I am open to all and all suggestions. And all I can remember is that the 1st month pokemon
 came they would fight and he did have a bite mark that bleed..he is all white. So i know he suffered a deep wound puncture for her. What kills me is how dense I was. I based Pokemon like a book by its cover. She was beautiful and so sweet I NEVER realized i should of had her tested and never brought her near my baby. I will never be able to forgive myself for Cracker being a positive Feline Leukemia. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Re: my baby crackers

[wendy]

Hi,

My name is Wendy.  I've been on this site for about 10
months now and have learned so much.  My FeLV+ passed
away, but it was so late when I found this group,
there wasn't enough time to save him.  I think that
Crackers has a much better chance.  

I'm sorry to hear about Pokemon.  I find, however,
that things happen for a reason, and you did the right
thing by loving Pokemon.  You didn't know about the
risks of taking her in, so please don't beat yourself
up.  So many of us here have exposed our kitties by
unknowingly taking in an FeLV+ before we were educated
on FeLV.  I exposed three others by taking in Cricket,
my FeLV+.  They are all negative.  

Everyone has posted great info. so far for you.  One
thing I didn't see was how old Crackers was.  That is
important.  If he is older, then it is harder for him
to contract FeLV, as Chris said.  Or rather, easier
for him to throw it off if exposed.  From our
experiences here, adults almost never contract FeLV. 
It's the kittens that contract it permanently.  So I
wouldn't worry too much until you test and retest. 
The only thing that might be a problem is that Pokemon
and Crackers were fighting and the veterinary
community doesn't know enough about this virus to know
if indirect exposure (sharing water bowls, grooming)
versus direct exposure (introducing the virus directly
to the bloodstream) plays a part in throwing off this
virus.  It could.  In the meantime, I would change
Cracker's diet, as Phaewryn pointed out.  I feed mine
Innova.  You can't get the good stuff at a grocery or
discount store, nor can you get it at Petsmart or
Petco (although you can buy Eukanueba there, but it's
not good food either, imo.)  Also, vitamin C and
L-lyine (without propyline glycol) are good immune
supplements.  The other big thing is to keep Crackers
stress-free.  I would also find another vet.  One that
does not feel euthanasia is the only option with FeLV+
kitties.  One that is educated.  You can figure this
out by calling different vets in the area and speaking
with them directly about their philosophy on treating
FeLV+'s.  You'll get a good feel for a vet this way. 
Your vet was wrong about the test not having any false
positives.

Try not to freak out too much.  We all love our
furbabies dearly here, and you have found a good place
to be while dealing with this.  It's a great source of
support.  If you'd like, I can email you a sick and
regular care kitty manual that I compiled.  I can't
attach it to these postings, but I can send it to you
directly if you'd like.  It's got a lot of info. in
it.  Please keep us posted on your kitty's diagnosis,
etc.

:)
Wendy
Dallas, Tx

P.S.  I think $6000-8000 for treatment for Pokemon is
RIDICULOUS  Just ludicrous!!!  And I don't
necessarily agree with their diagnosis and what they
said should be done.  I wouldn't go there again if you
can avoid it.

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Re: my baby crackers

[Watsdadillyo]

thank you for the list...i am writing them down and going out to get the 
best for my baby...did anyone ever have a problem with a cat switching diets? 
like not liking a new food? in that case can i wean him off of meow mix 
by...mixing the new with old at first? any suggestions..my cat loves to eat 
18.6lbs but is set in his ways..no house food...or any homemade mushy 
foods?

RE: my baby crackers

[Chris]

The thing about food is that some of this
food can be pretty pricey…  You sort of have to balance
things.  Keep in mind that they don’t eat quite as much of the
better quality food as some of the cheaper brand…  I order Wellness
online from The Hungry Puppy in NJ & even though there’s shipping
charge, it still comes out cheaper than other places.  One can goes a long
way even with all 5 of them…  They tend to eat smaller portions.

 

However, not everybody can do that so you
shouldn’t feel that you have to spend a fortune on food.  You can
always mix foods with home made sort of---boiled chicken or boiled any meat cut
up in little pieces.  All my cats like one veg or another & they love
eggs & cheese.  There’s a brand called Figaro and once in a
while I throw in a can as its just tuna & veggies.  Basically, I try
to give them a balanced diet, to stay away from stuff that fills them but doesn’t
give them nutrition, and to vary things a bit just so they don’t get into
a ‘I don’t like that cat food anymore’ mood!  

 

That’s just my way of doing it-

 



Chris

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Subject: Re: my baby crackers

 



Where do you buy your cat food? If it's the grocery
store, that's the first problem you have to solve. You need to get a phone
book, and look up a pet supply store in your area. Once you find one, go to the
store, and pick up a bag of cat food, flip it over, and read the ingredients
(don't even bother reading anything that's sold in a grocery store, it's all
crap). If it doesn't have MEAT as the first (and preferably the first two)
ingredients, put it back on the shelf and move on to the next food down. Do this
until you find one that DOES have MEAT as the first ingredient. At the same
time, you can also look for corn in the ingredients, and try to avoid those
too. What you can afford will ultimately tell you how far you can go in buying
the best food you can. I personally recommend California Natural or Innova (or
Healthwise, for budget-minded people). But there are other good brands too.
Others will make brand suggestions, I'm sure. OR, just search our archives,
this has been discussed many times in the past on this list. A few other good
brands: Chicken Soup, Felidae, Natural Balance, Newman's Own, Pinnacle, Premium
Edge Kitten,
Wellness, Wysong Archetype Diet, (Eukanuba is an
acceptable food is nothing better can be found locally, better than what's sold
in grocery stores). Some brands carry several products in their lines. Some are
better than others, for example, Premium Edge CAT food is not good, but their
KITTEN food is. Wysong's feline diet is not good, but their archetype diet is
good. Etc.. Other brands will have good first 2 or three ingredients, but if
you keep reading it just gets crazy as you go down the list of ingredients, for
example, MANY otherwise good premium cat foods (with meat as the first 2
ingredients and no corn) add garlic, blueberries, and all kinds of other crazy
nonsense to their foods. I don't recommend those, simply because they are MORE
likely to cause allergies, and garlic is not safe to feed cats at all, I
recently learned on this list. Not sure why otherwise good cat foods add
something so dangerous to their products, lack of education, I suppose.
Anyways, point is, read carefully. There should be NO onion, garlic, or corn,
and preferably not a lot of fruit and veggies, as cats are carnivores. Also,
herbs add to the chances of allergic reactions too. The more ingredients, the
more you're playing with fire as far as allergies go. That's why I prefer the
California Natural chicken and rice, VERY basic ingredients!






Phaewryn





 





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It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a
sick cat in need!

RE: my baby crackers

[Chris]

Its tough to find a vet
who has a realistic attitude about FELV.  My first vet, who was wonderful,
was upfront with me when my Tucson tested pos.  He told me that he had very little experience
with FELV.  I found a second vet who coincidentally is the vet for a local
rescuer who takes in FELV cats and he’s been great.  Never batted an
eyelash when I talked to him about mixing; never treated Tucson any differently. 
She has a tendency to develop low white blood count & he gives her
immuno-regulin when that happens.  Outside or that, we do nothing special.

 

I changed all their food—they were
all indoor cats & a couple of them, including Tucson, got to be real
porkos!  I give them Wellness wet food and eliminated most of the dry
food.  There are different foods out there and I know people will give you
ideas.  Since switching, one of my cats has lost weight and Tucson, well she’s lost a
bit but its tough with the ‘feline vacumn cleaner’!

 



Chris

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From:
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Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006
12:05 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: re: my baby crackers

 



i
looked at my acts food the first 2 things are corn and corn gluten...any
suggestions for a better food..he also eats whiskers wet packets...i am waiting
for this vet to call me he said he would...i am a wreck and i am going to find
a new vet..hopefully there is one around..the vet did the test that checks for
FIV/feline luekemia...at the last min a tiny blue dot appearred very faint...he
got his book and said it was luekemia...i was so excited that he said looks
like its gonna be neg..to a total SHOCK...he said i can send out the other test
and i said YES!! he said i will personally call u the results should be in sun
but with the holiday...blah blah blahi am waiting and praying..also i
noticed on the elisa test that the blood was splattered all messy on it...he
said that the confirmation blue came up and that the test was done right...i am
new to this board thanks to belinda she hooked me up...i never knew of so many diseases
cats could have and i appreciate how much valuable info i have received so far
THANK YOU

re: my baby crackers

[Watsdadillyo]

i looked at my acts food the first 2 things are corn and corn gluten...any 
suggestions for a better food..he also eats whiskers wet packets...i am waiting 
for this vet to call me he said he would...i am a wreck and i am going to find a 
new vet..hopefully there is one around..the vet did the test that checks for 
FIV/feline luekemia...at the last min a tiny blue dot appearred very faint...he 
got his book and said it was luekemia...i was so excited that he said looks like 
its gonna be neg..to a total SHOCK...he said i can send out the other test and i 
said YES!! he said i will personally call u the results should be in sun but 
with the holiday...blah blah blahi am waiting and praying..also i noticed on 
the elisa test that the blood was splattered all messy on it...he said that the 
confirmation blue came up and that the test was done right...i am new to this 
board thanks to belinda she hooked me up...i never knew of so many diseases cats 
could have and i appreciate how much valuable info i have received so far THANK 
YOU

Re: my baby crackers

[felv]

Well, first off, find a vet that isn't so uneducated. The in house ELISA 
test has a very high rates of inaccurate results. Next, take another look at the 
food you are feeding, read the ingredients, it should have meat as the first 
ingredient, preferably the first two ingredients, and there should be NO corn in 
it at all. Good nutrition is the best thing you can do. Next, once you find a 
better vet, make sure they run a second IFA, because if your first vet did such 
a poor job running the ELISA, he could have messed up the sample being sent 
off for the IFA you had done through his office (good bedside manner 
dictates that you DON'T say "Oh it looks like he might be ok" TWO minutes before 
the test is complete, just to say "Oh, nevermind, he's infected" That's HORRIBLE 
bedside manner, it's just terrible)! Then, wait 3 months, and retest again. In 
the meantime, read about all the possible treatments on our main website, and 
consider trying one, or more, of them, in a hope that he can "throw" the virus. 
That does happen, cats can test positive, and then later become negative, if 
they mount an effective immune response to the initial infection. You also might 
consider a vitamin C supplement, to boost his immune system, and a good 
multi-vitamin supplement in general.
 
Now, about your not testing prior to adding another cat, well, mistakes 
happen, All you can do is learn from it, and try to do better next time. Don't 
blame yourself for things you didn't know, and can't change now, that's 
pointless, and doesn't help anyone. Besides, FELV is not like FIV, it's not as 
contagious, it depends really very much on a cat's immune system, unlike FIV, 
which is almost always spread by a bite wound. Was Crackers ever tested in the 
past, before you adopted Pokemon? He might have had it all along. You didn't 
specifically say he tested positive for FELV, you said they did a combo test and 
he came up positive (and the doctor only knew that by looking in a book?), so I 
assume since this is a FELV group, he has felv, but does he have FIV too? I 
worry also, because if the vet had to look up how to read a combo test in a 
book, how many of these tests has he actually run? How OLD is the batch of test 
kits he is using? Has he been using the same pack of kits for the past 5 years? 
Are they expired? How could he possibly know ANYTHING about FELV if he doesn't 
even know HOW to run the test without reading the book? Scary, all put 
together.
Phaewryn
 
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Spay&Neuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat 
owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial 
Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 
The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please 
shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency 
Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at 
GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster & Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, 
and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much 
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re: my baby crackers

[Watsdadillyo]

thank you all so much who have posted so far your advice is keeping my 
family in excellent spirits THANK YOU so much and bless all your furry 
friends:)

Re: my baby crackers

[kelly]

At 09:48 AM 9/2/2006, you wrote:

In addition to the IFA  test. Any test should be repeated in 2 months 
or so. Some cats have a transient positive after exposure and then 
are able to completely clear the virus because of a good immune system..

I am eagerly awaiting my 8 weeks on this new juvenile I am caring for,
Kelly

RE: my baby crackers

[Chris]

First off, its very hard for a healthy
adult cat to ‘catch’ FELV.  There are two tests—one is an
in-house test, Elissa.  Then there’s an IFA, blood sent out to lab.  Be
sure the vet specifically says he did IFA.  Now having said all of this,
believe me there are tens of thousands of cats who test pos for FELV and nobody
ever knows it.  My own didn’t test + until she was 4—I had her
since she was a kitten and she’s never been outside.  False + are not
uncommon and further testing & retesting is in order…

 



Chris

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1:11 PM
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Subject: Re: my baby crackers

 



I am sorry for your terrible experience, but it is
absolutely not true that there are no false positives.  I had a false
positive on a kitten just a few months ago.  The first thing I would do is
to find a different vet.   





 





There are people here who will be able to give you
more and better information, but I can tell you there are absolutely false
positives.

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Re: my baby crackers

[Kelley Saveika]

I am sorry for your terrible experience, but it is absolutely not true that there are no false positives.  I had a false positive on a kitten just a few months ago.  The first thing I would do is to find a different vet.   

 
There are people here who will be able to give you more and better information, but I can tell you there are absolutely false positives.-- Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a kitty life!
http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese 

Re: my baby Garfunkle

[wendy]

Nina,

I am elated to hear about Garfunkle's improvement! 
That's awesome!  I hope he continues to turn around. 
It's amazing what the love and care of an "owner" can
do for these little furballs.  You go Hideyo!

:)
Wendy

--- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Wendy and list,
> I heard from Hideyo today, she had wonderful news. 
> Not only is 
> Garfunkle still with us, but he's improved!  His
> temp is up to, I think 
> she said 99.6, (still low, but so much better). 
> He's not eating on his 
> own, but he's moving around more and he doesn't
> appear to be as 
> jaundiced.  She thinks the subq fluids must be
> flushing his system, but 
> she still doesn't know exactly what the problem is. 
> Keep praying and 
> sending her and Garfunkle good thoughts!
> Nina
> 
> wendy wrote:
> 
> >Hi Hideyo,
> >
> >I know you don't have a lot of time to read emails
> so
> >I will try to keep this short.  I am happy that you
> >are keeping vigil with Garfunkle while he is ill. 
> I
> >so hope he pulls through.  I wish we could all be
> >there with our furangels when they are so sick. 
> Don't
> >give up hope Hideyo!!!  Please keep us posted on
> >Garfunkle.
> >
> >Prayers-
> >Wendy
> >
> 
> 
> 




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Re: my baby Garfunkle

[Terri Brown]

WOO-HOO
 
Way to go, Garfunkle!
 
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furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec & Salome' 
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  - Original Message - 
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  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:23 
  PM
  Subject: Re: my baby Garfunkle
  Hi Wendy and list,I heard from Hideyo today, she had 
  wonderful news.  Not only is Garfunkle still with us, but he's 
  improved!  His temp is up to, I think she said 99.6, (still low, but 
  so much better).  He's not eating on his own, but he's moving around 
  more and he doesn't appear to be as jaundiced.  She thinks the subq 
  fluids must be flushing his system, but she still doesn't know exactly 
  what the problem is.  Keep praying and sending her and Garfunkle good 
  thoughts!Ninawendy wrote:>Hi Hideyo,>>I 
  know you don't have a lot of time to read emails so>I will try to keep 
  this short.  I am happy that you>are keeping vigil with Garfunkle 
  while he is ill.  I>so hope he pulls through.  I wish we 
  could all be>there with our furangels when they are so sick.  
  Don't>give up hope Hideyo!!!  Please keep us posted 
  on>Garfunkle.>>Prayers->Wendy>

Re: my baby Garfunkle

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RE: my baby Garfunkle

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

That's great news, Nina. I emailed her late last night wondering how
things were.
Let's hope the little fellow just keeps getting better and better.
kerry

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 6:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: my baby Garfunkle


Hi Wendy and list,
I heard from Hideyo today, she had wonderful news.  Not only is 
Garfunkle still with us, but he's improved!  His temp is up to, I think 
she said 99.6, (still low, but so much better).  He's not eating on his 
own, but he's moving around more and he doesn't appear to be as 
jaundiced.  She thinks the subq fluids must be flushing his system, but 
she still doesn't know exactly what the problem is.  Keep praying and 
sending her and Garfunkle good thoughts!
Nina

wendy wrote:

>Hi Hideyo,
>
>I know you don't have a lot of time to read emails so
>I will try to keep this short.  I am happy that you
>are keeping vigil with Garfunkle while he is ill.  I
>so hope he pulls through.  I wish we could all be
>there with our furangels when they are so sick.  Don't
>give up hope Hideyo!!!  Please keep us posted on
>Garfunkle.
>
>Prayers-
>Wendy
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Re: my baby Garfunkle

[Nina]

Hi Wendy and list,
I heard from Hideyo today, she had wonderful news.  Not only is 
Garfunkle still with us, but he's improved!  His temp is up to, I think 
she said 99.6, (still low, but so much better).  He's not eating on his 
own, but he's moving around more and he doesn't appear to be as 
jaundiced.  She thinks the subq fluids must be flushing his system, but 
she still doesn't know exactly what the problem is.  Keep praying and 
sending her and Garfunkle good thoughts!

Nina

wendy wrote:


Hi Hideyo,

I know you don't have a lot of time to read emails so
I will try to keep this short.  I am happy that you
are keeping vigil with Garfunkle while he is ill.  I
so hope he pulls through.  I wish we could all be
there with our furangels when they are so sick.  Don't
give up hope Hideyo!!!  Please keep us posted on
Garfunkle.

Prayers-
Wendy

RE: my baby Garfunkle

[wendy]

Hi Hideyo,

I know you don't have a lot of time to read emails so
I will try to keep this short.  I am happy that you
are keeping vigil with Garfunkle while he is ill.  I
so hope he pulls through.  I wish we could all be
there with our furangels when they are so sick.  Don't
give up hope Hideyo!!!  Please keep us posted on
Garfunkle.

Prayers-
Wendy

--- Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi, everyone, thank you so very much for your kinds
> words - Garfunkle
> and I appreciate it very much - he is resting
> peacefully right now - I
> need to get back to him very quickly.  I wrapped him
> around with blanket
> and heat pad.. whenever I pet him, he tries very
> hard to purr - I love
> this boy - he is one of my favorite feral boy - I am
> going to spend as
> much time as possible, and praying that a miracle
> will happen to him.
> 
>  
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 4:37 PM
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> Subject: Re: Pictures of Cricket on Web!
> 
>  
> 
> oops!!! My apology wasn't watching what I typed
> instead of she I meant
> "HE"
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
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RE: my baby Garfunkle

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Hi, everyone, thank you so very much for
your kinds words – Garfunkle and I appreciate it very much – he is
resting peacefully right now – I need to get back to him very quickly.  I
wrapped him around with blanket and heat pad.. whenever I pet him, he tries very
hard to purr – I love this boy – he is one of my favorite feral boy
– I am going to spend as much time as possible, and praying that a
miracle will happen to him.

 









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RE: My baby Cricket is sick; I need some encouragement

[catatonya]

It's hard to find a vet that's good with ferals, but when you find one he/she's a keeper!  I could never handle my feral, but my vet could.  They would put one of those nylon dog leashes around her neck and throw a towel over her.  With the towel over her face they were able to give her shots, etc  My new, even better vet was able to pill her, etc
tonyaHideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I do a similar thing, Wendy. I have lots of feral cats -so whenever theyget sick, it's a challenge to first of all catch him/her - and takehim/her to a vet so that they can be seen -One thing it worked good is to cover their face and the body part whichdoes not need to be examined with a towel completely - my Hannibal stayscalm as long as his face is covered (he can't see, therefore they can'tsee him mentality) - They also have used a zipper bag for my Simon and George - but I don'tknow how well it works for a very very feral kitty -Ask the vet to lower the voice as any loud voices will scare them... Ialways whisper when I take my feral. I will be praying for Cricket'squick recovery.Hideyo-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of NinaSent: Monday, October 24, 2005 5:34 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: My baby Cricket is sick; I need some encouragementHello Wendy,I'm sorry Cricket is so sick. You sound like a wonderful cat mom and Cricket is blessed to have you taking care of him. What a horrendous experience the two of you had during the first vet visit. I don't blameyou for wanting to avoid that kind of stress again. If I understand youcorrectly, this is a different vet, try not to expect the worst from this visit. It's possible that the new vet will be more experienced in dealing with reluctant patients like Cricket. I have a semi-feral that is really hard to treat too. I do use Rescue Remedy, (a drop on my finger applied to the inside tip of the ear), and spray the heck out of the bedding and crate with Feliway 20 minutes or so before you have to leave for the vet. Also, cover the crate with a towel or blanket.
 Whenyou get to the vet, tell the techs that you prefer only having him handled once and wait for the vet. Tell them he bites, if they try to give you an argument, that usually sends them scurrying from the room. What I do, is instead of taking the kitty from the crate, I remove the top of the crate and cover the cat with the towel that was covering the crate, (let him stayed buried under the towel as much as possible). Keep your hands on him and talk to him the whole time. I think an animal communicator is a good idea, but if you don't have time, or don'tbelieve in that sort of thing, you can talk to him yourself. Tell him this is not going to be the same as last time. Things are going to go smooth and easy. Tell him what you expect the vet will do, you know, he's going to touch your body, look in your mouth, etc. Tell him they are going to draw his blood to better understand what's going on in his body. Tell him the
 quieter he stays, the easier it will be to do. Plead with them to do everything in the exam room, or at least to allow you to come back with him when they draw his blood. It will be reassuring to him to hear your voice and have you present. Be as calm as you possibly can, he'll pick up on that and it will help him relax. Leave Cricket in the crate in the car when you get there. Tell them to come and get you in the parking lot when they are ready to bring you to the exam room. That way you can avoid the sounds and smells of the waiting room. From what you describe it sounds as if he's suffering from some sort ofanemia. There are different causes, and therefore different treatments. Blood transfusions have been known to stabilize kittys in dire straights and buy time for remedies to work. We just heard from a member that has had success using Immuno-Regulin subq, insead of IV, if you decide to go that route, I'm sure it
 would be easier on Cricket. This could have been brought on by the stress of your visitors, but there's no way to know. I detected a hint of guilt between the lines about possibly having brought on this bout of illness. I just want you to know, that's just not so. We can't keep them in a bubble, and even if we could, it doesn't mean they would remain safe and healthy. This disease sucks and sometimes no matter what you do, no matter how hard you try, no matter how much you research, it still claims the lives of our sweet angels. It's a sad sad fact, but it's true. Please don't blame yourself for Cricket's condition. All we can do, is all we cando. Prayers for you and Cricket,Ninawendy walker wrote:>Hi my name is Wendy. I live in Texas. I have a black>cat named Cricket; he's 4 yrs., 5 mo's. old and a>great cat. He absolutely hates the vet, so the last>tim

RE: My baby Cricket is sick; I need some encouragement

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

I do a similar thing, Wendy. I have lots of feral cats -so whenever they
get sick, it's a challenge to first of all catch him/her - and take
him/her to a vet so that they can be seen -

One thing it worked good is to cover their face and the body part which
does not need to be examined with a towel completely - my Hannibal stays
calm as long as his face is covered (he can't see, therefore they can't
see him mentality) - 

They also have used a zipper bag for my Simon and George - but I don't
know how well it works for a very very feral kitty -

Ask the vet to lower the voice as any loud voices will scare them... I
always whisper when I take my feral.  I will be praying for Cricket's
quick recovery.


Hideyo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 5:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: My baby Cricket is sick; I need some encouragement

Hello Wendy,
I'm sorry Cricket is so sick.  You sound like a wonderful cat mom and 
Cricket is blessed to have you taking care of him.  What a horrendous 
experience the two of you had during the first vet visit.  I don't blame

you for wanting to avoid that kind of stress again.  If I understand you

correctly, this is a different vet, try not to expect the worst from 
this visit.  It's possible that the new vet will be more experienced in 
dealing with reluctant patients like Cricket.  I have a semi-feral that 
is really hard to treat too.  I do use Rescue Remedy, (a drop on my 
finger applied to the inside tip of the ear), and spray the heck out of 
the bedding and crate with Feliway 20 minutes or so before you have to 
leave for the vet.  Also, cover the crate with a towel or blanket.  When

you get to the vet, tell the techs that you prefer only having him 
handled once and wait for the vet.  Tell them he bites, if they try to 
give you an argument, that usually sends them scurrying from the room.  
What I do, is instead of taking the kitty from the crate, I remove the 
top of the crate and cover the cat with the towel that was covering the 
crate, (let him stayed buried under the towel as much as possible).  
Keep your hands on him and talk to him the whole time.  I think an 
animal communicator is a good idea, but if you don't have time, or don't

believe in that sort of thing, you can talk to him yourself.  Tell him 
this is not going to be the same as last time.  Things are going to go 
smooth and easy.  Tell him what you expect the vet will do, you know, 
he's going to touch your body, look in your mouth, etc. Tell him they 
are going to draw his blood to better understand what's going on in his 
body.  Tell him the quieter he stays, the easier it will be to do.  
Plead with them to do everything in the exam room, or at least to allow 
you to come back with him when they draw his blood.  It will be 
reassuring to him to hear your voice and have you present.  Be as calm 
as you possibly can, he'll pick up on that and it will help him relax.  
Leave Cricket in the crate in the car when you get there.  Tell them to 
come and get you in the parking lot when they are ready to bring you to 
the exam room.  That way you can avoid the sounds and smells of the 
waiting room. 

 From what you describe it sounds as if he's suffering from some sort of

anemia.  There are different causes, and therefore different 
treatments.  Blood transfusions have been known to stabilize kittys in 
dire straights and buy time for remedies to work.  We just heard from a 
member that has had success using Immuno-Regulin subq, insead of IV, if 
you decide to go that route, I'm sure it would be easier on Cricket. 

This could have been brought on by the stress of your visitors, but 
there's no way to know.  I detected a hint of guilt between the lines 
about possibly having brought on this bout of illness.  I just want you 
to know, that's just not so.  We can't keep them in a bubble, and even 
if we could, it doesn't mean they would remain safe and healthy.  This 
disease sucks and sometimes no matter what you do, no matter how hard 
you try, no matter how much you research, it still claims the lives of 
our sweet angels.  It's a sad sad fact, but it's true.  Please don't 
blame yourself for Cricket's condition.  All we can do, is all we can
do. 

Prayers for you and Cricket,
Nina

wendy walker wrote:

>Hi my name is Wendy.  I live in Texas.  I have a black
>cat named Cricket; he's 4 yrs., 5 mo's. old and a
>great cat.  He absolutely hates the vet, so the last
>time I took him was about two years ago when he got
>really sick.  They told me they couldn't tell his
>actual temperature because it was all the way to the
>end of the thermometer.  It took virtually the whole
>staff to give him an injection of antibiotics and take
>his blood, 

Re: My baby Cricket is sick; I need some encouragement

[Nina]

Hello Wendy,
I'm sorry Cricket is so sick.  You sound like a wonderful cat mom and 
Cricket is blessed to have you taking care of him.  What a horrendous 
experience the two of you had during the first vet visit.  I don't blame 
you for wanting to avoid that kind of stress again.  If I understand you 
correctly, this is a different vet, try not to expect the worst from 
this visit.  It's possible that the new vet will be more experienced in 
dealing with reluctant patients like Cricket.  I have a semi-feral that 
is really hard to treat too.  I do use Rescue Remedy, (a drop on my 
finger applied to the inside tip of the ear), and spray the heck out of 
the bedding and crate with Feliway 20 minutes or so before you have to 
leave for the vet.  Also, cover the crate with a towel or blanket.  When 
you get to the vet, tell the techs that you prefer only having him 
handled once and wait for the vet.  Tell them he bites, if they try to 
give you an argument, that usually sends them scurrying from the room.  
What I do, is instead of taking the kitty from the crate, I remove the 
top of the crate and cover the cat with the towel that was covering the 
crate, (let him stayed buried under the towel as much as possible).  
Keep your hands on him and talk to him the whole time.  I think an 
animal communicator is a good idea, but if you don't have time, or don't 
believe in that sort of thing, you can talk to him yourself.  Tell him 
this is not going to be the same as last time.  Things are going to go 
smooth and easy.  Tell him what you expect the vet will do, you know, 
he's going to touch your body, look in your mouth, etc. Tell him they 
are going to draw his blood to better understand what's going on in his 
body.  Tell him the quieter he stays, the easier it will be to do.  
Plead with them to do everything in the exam room, or at least to allow 
you to come back with him when they draw his blood.  It will be 
reassuring to him to hear your voice and have you present.  Be as calm 
as you possibly can, he'll pick up on that and it will help him relax.  
Leave Cricket in the crate in the car when you get there.  Tell them to 
come and get you in the parking lot when they are ready to bring you to 
the exam room.  That way you can avoid the sounds and smells of the 
waiting room. 

From what you describe it sounds as if he's suffering from some sort of 
anemia.  There are different causes, and therefore different 
treatments.  Blood transfusions have been known to stabilize kittys in 
dire straights and buy time for remedies to work.  We just heard from a 
member that has had success using Immuno-Regulin subq, insead of IV, if 
you decide to go that route, I'm sure it would be easier on Cricket. 

This could have been brought on by the stress of your visitors, but 
there's no way to know.  I detected a hint of guilt between the lines 
about possibly having brought on this bout of illness.  I just want you 
to know, that's just not so.  We can't keep them in a bubble, and even 
if we could, it doesn't mean they would remain safe and healthy.  This 
disease sucks and sometimes no matter what you do, no matter how hard 
you try, no matter how much you research, it still claims the lives of 
our sweet angels.  It's a sad sad fact, but it's true.  Please don't 
blame yourself for Cricket's condition.  All we can do, is all we can do. 


Prayers for you and Cricket,
Nina

wendy walker wrote:


Hi my name is Wendy.  I live in Texas.  I have a black
cat named Cricket; he's 4 yrs., 5 mo's. old and a
great cat.  He absolutely hates the vet, so the last
time I took him was about two years ago when he got
really sick.  They told me they couldn't tell his
actual temperature because it was all the way to the
end of the thermometer.  It took virtually the whole
staff to give him an injection of antibiotics and take
his blood, after they broke two needles off in his
back.  The vet said that he tested positive for FeLV. 
When I figured out that the vet hadn't given him any

fluids intraveneously for 18 hours after I had asked
him to (Cricket wasn't eating or drinking on his own),
I took him home and with the help of antibiotics and
syringe-feeding and a lot of love, he made it back to
life.  The vet told me he'd never seen a cat that sick
come back.  He's been fine for two years.  At the end
of September, we had a houseful of family during
Hurricane Rita and shortly after that, I noticed that
Cricket wasn't quite making it when he jumped onto the
cabinets to drink water out of the sink.  He started
eating kitty litter and wasn't eating as much.  He
began to walk slowly and when he came up to me and
meowed (he never meows), I knew something was wrong. 
The (new) vet prescribed Clavamox without seeing

Cricket because of his stressful history when visiting
the vet.  After two days on the medicine, he seemed to
be doing better, but a couple of days later, I noticed
how white his mouth was and started doing some
research.  Well, 

Re: My baby Cricket is sick; I need some encouragement

[maimaipg]

Have you tried Feliway and Rescue Remedy when taking Cricket to the
vet's?  Both work wonders.  Black cats are very regal (read their way or
the highway) but they can be persuaded to cooperate.  I would suggest an
animal communicator talk to Cricket and explain what is happening.  Cricket
does not see the benefits, just the pain, especially since the last trip.
- Original Message - 
From: "wendy walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 4:15 PM
Subject: My baby Cricket is sick; I need some encouragement


> Hi my name is Wendy.  I live in Texas.  I have a black
> cat named Cricket; he's 4 yrs., 5 mo's. old and a
> great cat.  He absolutely hates the vet, so the last
> time I took him was about two years ago when he got
> really sick.  They told me they couldn't tell his
> actual temperature because it was all the way to the
> end of the thermometer.  It took virtually the whole
> staff to give him an injection of antibiotics and take
> his blood, after they broke two needles off in his
> back.  The vet said that he tested positive for FeLV.
> When I figured out that the vet hadn't given him any
> fluids intraveneously for 18 hours after I had asked
> him to (Cricket wasn't eating or drinking on his own),
> I took him home and with the help of antibiotics and
> syringe-feeding and a lot of love, he made it back to
> life.  The vet told me he'd never seen a cat that sick
> come back.  He's been fine for two years.  At the end
> of September, we had a houseful of family during
> Hurricane Rita and shortly after that, I noticed that
> Cricket wasn't quite making it when he jumped onto the
> cabinets to drink water out of the sink.  He started
> eating kitty litter and wasn't eating as much.  He
> began to walk slowly and when he came up to me and
> meowed (he never meows), I knew something was wrong.
> The (new) vet prescribed Clavamox without seeing
> Cricket because of his stressful history when visiting
> the vet.  After two days on the medicine, he seemed to
> be doing better, but a couple of days later, I noticed
> how white his mouth was and started doing some
> research.  Well, as many of you already know because
> you've done this drill, things are looking grim for
> Cricket.  We have an appointment at the vet in a
> couple of hours and it's all I can do to stay at work.
>  I know whatever ends up happening is going to happen,
> but I can't help but keep thinking and worrying about
> him.  I am normally pretty logical and level-headed,
> but I cried all day yesterday after reading all the
> negative information about anemia and FeLV.  I do have
> some hope however.  I am hoping the vet will know
> about Immuno-Regulin or even better, Virbagen Omega,
> which is a Feline Omega Interferon.  Both are supposed
> to help immensely with boosting the immune system.  I
> really don't know how the vet is going to be able to
> take Cricket's blood to find out what the numbers are
> so we can treat him for the anemia; Cricket gets so
> crazy.  He may end up being his own worst enemy.  I
> just wanted to ask if anyone has had any success with
> their cats taking these drugs?  Also, if anyone
> reading this will pray for Cricket and that the vet
> will be a good one and that we can get Cricket back to
> normal for as long as we can.  I promised that I would
> not allow Cricket to suffer for selfish reasons, but I
> don't want to end his life prematurely either.  Pray
> for wisdom for the vet and for me.  And thank you all
> so much.  I was relieved to find this site.
>
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Re: My baby Cricket is sick; I need some encouragement

[Del Daniels]

Wendy,  
 
Prayers for you and your Cricket.  I have not 
used either of those drugs but many others will share their info and 
experiences.  You probably know that when kitties are stressed their temp 
will rise so you might want to take it at home.  Can you ask for a 
tranquilizer for Cricket to take before he goes to the vet to reduce his stress, 
or use Rescue Remedy?  My kitties have not responded to Rescue Remedy but 
other folks have had good luck with it.  It sounds like he might need 
something more potent than RR though.  Just a thought.  My Noah must 
be given some Iso for a blood draw and mouth exam and that works good for him 
because it's quick, they come right out of it.  Good luck.
 
Del

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  walker 
  To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:15 
  PM
  Subject: My baby Cricket is sick; I need 
  some encouragement
  Hi my name is Wendy.  I live in Texas.  I have a 
  blackcat named Cricket; he's 4 yrs., 5 mo's. old and agreat cat.  
  He absolutely hates the vet, so the lasttime I took him was about two 
  years ago when he gotreally sick.  They told me they couldn't tell 
  hisactual temperature because it was all the way to theend of the 
  thermometer.  It took virtually the wholestaff to give him an 
  injection of antibiotics and takehis blood, after they broke two needles 
  off in hisback.  The vet said that he tested positive for FeLV. 
  When I figured out that the vet hadn't given him anyfluids 
  intraveneously for 18 hours after I had askedhim to (Cricket wasn't eating 
  or drinking on his own),I took him home and with the help of antibiotics 
  andsyringe-feeding and a lot of love, he made it back tolife.  
  The vet told me he'd never seen a cat that sickcome back.  He's been 
  fine for two years.  At the endof September, we had a houseful of 
  family duringHurricane Rita and shortly after that, I noticed 
  thatCricket wasn't quite making it when he jumped onto thecabinets to 
  drink water out of the sink.  He startedeating kitty litter and 
  wasn't eating as much.  Hebegan to walk slowly and when he came up to 
  me andmeowed (he never meows), I knew something was wrong. The (new) 
  vet prescribed Clavamox without seeingCricket because of his stressful 
  history when visitingthe vet.  After two days on the medicine, he 
  seemed tobe doing better, but a couple of days later, I noticedhow 
  white his mouth was and started doing someresearch.  Well, as many of 
  you already know becauseyou've done this drill, things are looking grim 
  forCricket.  We have an appointment at the vet in acouple of 
  hours and it's all I can do to stay at work. I know whatever ends up 
  happening is going to happen,but I can't help but keep thinking and 
  worrying abouthim.  I am normally pretty logical and 
  level-headed,but I cried all day yesterday after reading all 
  thenegative information about anemia and FeLV.  I do havesome 
  hope however.  I am hoping the vet will knowabout Immuno-Regulin or 
  even better, Virbagen Omega,which is a Feline Omega Interferon.  Both 
  are supposedto help immensely with boosting the immune system.  
  Ireally don't know how the vet is going to be able totake Cricket's 
  blood to find out what the numbers areso we can treat him for the anemia; 
  Cricket gets socrazy.  He may end up being his own worst enemy.  
  Ijust wanted to ask if anyone has had any success withtheir cats 
  taking these drugs?  Also, if anyonereading this will pray for 
  Cricket and that the vetwill be a good one and that we can get Cricket 
  back tonormal for as long as we can.  I promised that I wouldnot 
  allow Cricket to suffer for selfish reasons, but Idon't want to end his 
  life prematurely either.  Prayfor wisdom for the vet and for 
  me.  And thank you allso much.  I was relieved to find this 
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RE: My baby Cricket is sick; I need some encouragement

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

Dear Wendy
Welcome, though I'm so sorry for the reason you've had to find us. You
have come to the right place--you won't find a kinder, more
informed/supportive bunch of people anywhere--it's been a godsend to me.
I have not personally used IR or VO but I am sure you will hear from
those of us who have. 
I'm sending zillions of healing vibes for your Cricket, and praying your
vet visit goes well this afternoon. It's clear from everything you say
that Cricket couldn't wish for a more caring, loving mom.
hugs to you and your furball, Kerry


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy walker
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:16 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: My baby Cricket is sick; I need some encouragement


Hi my name is Wendy.  I live in Texas.  I have a black
cat named Cricket; he's 4 yrs., 5 mo's. old and a
great cat.  He absolutely hates the vet, so the last
time I took him was about two years ago when he got
really sick.  They told me they couldn't tell his
actual temperature because it was all the way to the
end of the thermometer.  It took virtually the whole
staff to give him an injection of antibiotics and take
his blood, after they broke two needles off in his
back.  The vet said that he tested positive for FeLV. 
When I figured out that the vet hadn't given him any
fluids intraveneously for 18 hours after I had asked
him to (Cricket wasn't eating or drinking on his own),
I took him home and with the help of antibiotics and
syringe-feeding and a lot of love, he made it back to
life.  The vet told me he'd never seen a cat that sick
come back.  He's been fine for two years.  At the end
of September, we had a houseful of family during
Hurricane Rita and shortly after that, I noticed that
Cricket wasn't quite making it when he jumped onto the
cabinets to drink water out of the sink.  He started
eating kitty litter and wasn't eating as much.  He
began to walk slowly and when he came up to me and
meowed (he never meows), I knew something was wrong. 
The (new) vet prescribed Clavamox without seeing
Cricket because of his stressful history when visiting
the vet.  After two days on the medicine, he seemed to
be doing better, but a couple of days later, I noticed
how white his mouth was and started doing some
research.  Well, as many of you already know because
you've done this drill, things are looking grim for
Cricket.  We have an appointment at the vet in a
couple of hours and it's all I can do to stay at work.
 I know whatever ends up happening is going to happen,
but I can't help but keep thinking and worrying about
him.  I am normally pretty logical and level-headed,
but I cried all day yesterday after reading all the
negative information about anemia and FeLV.  I do have
some hope however.  I am hoping the vet will know
about Immuno-Regulin or even better, Virbagen Omega,
which is a Feline Omega Interferon.  Both are supposed
to help immensely with boosting the immune system.  I
really don't know how the vet is going to be able to
take Cricket's blood to find out what the numbers are
so we can treat him for the anemia; Cricket gets so
crazy.  He may end up being his own worst enemy.  I
just wanted to ask if anyone has had any success with
their cats taking these drugs?  Also, if anyone
reading this will pray for Cricket and that the vet
will be a good one and that we can get Cricket back to
normal for as long as we can.  I promised that I would
not allow Cricket to suffer for selfish reasons, but I
don't want to end his life prematurely either.  Pray
for wisdom for the vet and for me.  And thank you all
so much.  I was relieved to find this site.



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Re: My baby Cricket is sick; I need some encouragement

[Terri Brown]

I'm sorry it was necessary for you to find us, but I'm glad you did.
 
Starting the interferon or one of the other treatments is imperative.  
In the meantime, keep loving your baby.
 
I'm a bit pressed for time, so I am sorry I can't write more, but there are 
a lot of wonderful people on this list, and I know that one of them will be able 
to give you wonderful advice.
 
Hugs,
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: wendy walker 
  To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 4:15 
  PM
  Subject: My baby Cricket is sick; I need 
  some encouragement
  Hi my name is Wendy.  I live in Texas.  I have a 
  blackcat named Cricket; he's 4 yrs., 5 mo's. old and agreat cat.  
  He absolutely hates the vet, so the lasttime I took him was about two 
  years ago when he gotreally sick.  They told me they couldn't tell 
  hisactual temperature because it was all the way to theend of the 
  thermometer.  It took virtually the wholestaff to give him an 
  injection of antibiotics and takehis blood, after they broke two needles 
  off in hisback.  The vet said that he tested positive for FeLV. 
  When I figured out that the vet hadn't given him anyfluids 
  intraveneously for 18 hours after I had askedhim to (Cricket wasn't eating 
  or drinking on his own),I took him home and with the help of antibiotics 
  andsyringe-feeding and a lot of love, he made it back tolife.  
  The vet told me he'd never seen a cat that sickcome back.  He's been 
  fine for two years.  At the endof September, we had a houseful of 
  family duringHurricane Rita and shortly after that, I noticed 
  thatCricket wasn't quite making it when he jumped onto thecabinets to 
  drink water out of the sink.  He startedeating kitty litter and 
  wasn't eating as much.  Hebegan to walk slowly and when he came up to 
  me andmeowed (he never meows), I knew something was wrong. The (new) 
  vet prescribed Clavamox without seeingCricket because of his stressful 
  history when visitingthe vet.  After two days on the medicine, he 
  seemed tobe doing better, but a couple of days later, I noticedhow 
  white his mouth was and started doing someresearch.  Well, as many of 
  you already know becauseyou've done this drill, things are looking grim 
  forCricket.  We have an appointment at the vet in acouple of 
  hours and it's all I can do to stay at work. I know whatever ends up 
  happening is going to happen,but I can't help but keep thinking and 
  worrying abouthim.  I am normally pretty logical and 
  level-headed,but I cried all day yesterday after reading all 
  thenegative information about anemia and FeLV.  I do havesome 
  hope however.  I am hoping the vet will knowabout Immuno-Regulin or 
  even better, Virbagen Omega,which is a Feline Omega Interferon.  Both 
  are supposedto help immensely with boosting the immune system.  
  Ireally don't know how the vet is going to be able totake Cricket's 
  blood to find out what the numbers areso we can treat him for the anemia; 
  Cricket gets socrazy.  He may end up being his own worst enemy.  
  Ijust wanted to ask if anyone has had any success withtheir cats 
  taking these drugs?  Also, if anyonereading this will pray for 
  Cricket and that the vetwill be a good one and that we can get Cricket 
  back tonormal for as long as we can.  I promised that I wouldnot 
  allow Cricket to suffer for selfish reasons, but Idon't want to end his 
  life prematurely either.  Prayfor wisdom for the vet and for 
  me.  And thank you allso much.  I was relieved to find this 
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Re: My Baby Kitten DIED

[Sharon Siders]

Tad,
 
I know how much it hurts to lose a kitten; it is almost worse than losing an older cat.  When I lost Ernie, I kept thinking how he never had a chance to really live.
 
Please know that you are in my thoughts.
 
SharonTad Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Yes...My little feral FeLV+ kitten died on March 30th...The same day as Steves kitty...Her name was "Baby Kitten"I did post on here and I think 2 people replyed...She didn't make the CLS thoughMaybe I didn't come on here and cry about itenough...But I..Like Steve still think of her and miss her and I guess if I have to readabout Poor Steve every week maybe my kitty could at least be put on the CLS list... Baby Kitty was about 5 months old when she was trapped and tested pos...She waspartialy crippled when I got her and very small...She hated being in the cage so muchthat I let her out to run in the room with my other pos cats who are all very tame...She did eat well but not much of the wet food with the suppliments and until she gotsick I wasn't able to catch her...About 2 weeks before she died I suringe feed
 herand put her on antibiotics...She bounced back and I thought I had saved her...Andalong with that I had tamed her into a real snuggle bug...I didn't have her that longbut I had let myself think that she was going to be around for a while...I lost 3 cats 12 - 14 years old last year but I think loosing the young kitty that nevermade it to her 1st birthday hurts just as much...I have lost 3 other FeLV+ cats but I also have 8 alive and well that I saved from beingPTS the day I brought them home...I guess thats why I keep going TadSteve Williams wrote:
Hi all,

It's been awhile.  I have not been able to read the list.  The email subject
lines alone have been too upsetting to me.  I am beginning to think I will
never recover from the loss of Loki and Leeloo.

I wanted to send you a link to a kind of comic book story my niece Alisha
wrote for her anthropology class.  It features her cats Mitas, Kaiya, and
Dotty (these are also my sister Lynda's and niece Shawna's cats... the first
bunch they rescued).  they lost Leeloo and Loki's siblings, Milo and Abby to
FeLV... All listed on Belinda's CLS list).

Alisha is a bit of an artist. Click "Next" to view each page.

Enjoy,
  Steve

http://alisha.leafglow.com/gallery/gallery36.html




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Re: My Baby Kitten DIED

[Barbara Lowe]

everytime I see one of these subject headers my 
heart breaks for the human and their loss--reminding me that yet another sweet 
fur creature has lost her/his battle to this absolutely friggin crappy virus. 
I've had to go offmail from the list because just too many other problems right 
now in my life---but also because I just can't take the heartbreak right now but 
I realize that is very selfish because everyone here responded when I wrote of 
losing Jelly Roll last nov. I am so sorry, Tad-you lost this precious little 
friend. I'm sorry if you felt no one cared--we do--maybe too much and sometimes 
the losses that just keep adding up remind us too much of our loved ones that 
have gone to the bridge. the only thing that keeps me going is the support of 
this group and knowing I'm not alone-just as I'm not alone with fighting cancer 
now with my last dog--I wish you peace in the future and that one day the hurt 
will lessen some over this loss. Keep loving your animals-keep saving them--stay 
as wonderful as you are to fight in this battle and thank god you were granted 
the genes to care for animals and not turn away as so many others do-saying, oh 
they're just cats...
they are just cats just wonderful glorious 
beautiful creatures who found us to love them and for whatever amount of time we 
are granted to share with them on this realm, we have to revel in that 
joy.
take care,
Barbara
 

Re: My Baby Kitten DIED

[Belinda Sauro]

  Tad,
  I'm very sorry about Baby Kitten, I truly don't remember seeing 
anything posted about her passing.  I think this was around the time I 
was getting hundreds of thousands of spam email bouncing back to me 
(someone had hacked into one of my domain scripts and used it to send 
millions of spam emails from my email address and over half bounced back 
to me, I lost thousands of email for about a two week period) and your 
posts about Baby Kitten must have been among them.  I will most 
certainly get her posted righ now for this coming weeks coming service.  
My apologies for the omission.

My prayers are with you on your loss of such a young kitty, this disease 
is so unfair.  Take care.

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Re: My Baby Kitten DIED

[tamara stickler]

Tad,
 
You and the rest on this list are just AMAZING!  To become emotionally involved with any pet is such a risk, knowing the heart break and emotional & financial drain that comes with them getting older and sick.  But to take in the sick from the beginning.  I don't know where you all get your strength from.  I DO appreciate your sacrifice.
 
I don't think I saw your orig. post about Baby Kitten, my special needs cat died the same week, and I couldn't bring myself to open any "death" posts.  But my thoughts and prayers are will you all and your charges, always.  and I thank you all.
 
TTad Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Yes...My little feral FeLV+ kitten died on March 30th...The same day as Steves kitty...Her name was "Baby Kitten"I did post on here and I think 2 people replyed...She didn't make the CLS thoughMaybe I didn't come on here and cry about itenough...But I..Like Steve still think of her and miss her and I guess if I have to readabout Poor Steve every week maybe my kitty could at least be put on the CLS list... Baby Kitty was about 5 months old when she was trapped and tested pos...She waspartialy crippled when I got her and very small...She hated being in the cage so muchthat I let her out to run in the room with my other pos cats who are all very tame...She did eat well but not much of the wet food with the suppliments and until she gotsick I wasn't able to catch her...About 2 weeks before she died I suringe feed
 herand put her on antibiotics...She bounced back and I thought I had saved her...Andalong with that I had tamed her into a real snuggle bug...I didn't have her that longbut I had let myself think that she was going to be around for a while...I lost 3 cats 12 - 14 years old last year but I think loosing the young kitty that nevermade it to her 1st birthday hurts just as much...I have lost 3 other FeLV+ cats but I also have 8 alive and well that I saved from beingPTS the day I brought them home...I guess thats why I keep going TadSteve Williams wrote:
Hi all,

It's been awhile.  I have not been able to read the list.  The email subject
lines alone have been too upsetting to me.  I am beginning to think I will
never recover from the loss of Loki and Leeloo.

I wanted to send you a link to a kind of comic book story my niece Alisha
wrote for her anthropology class.  It features her cats Mitas, Kaiya, and
Dotty (these are also my sister Lynda's and niece Shawna's cats... the first
bunch they rescued).  they lost Leeloo and Loki's siblings, Milo and Abby to
FeLV... All listed on Belinda's CLS list).

Alisha is a bit of an artist. Click "Next" to view each page.

Enjoy,
  Steve

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Re: My Baby Kitten DIED

[carlas]

Tad 

I am truly sorry to hear of the loss of your Baby Kitten.
I am sure the kitten is watching down and watching over you and is 
greatful for finding  a path that led your baby kitten to you care and 
love.

Carla

Re: My Baby Kitten DIED

[Cherie A Gabbert]

Tad,
Please, please forgive me and us we have been having so many problems with the emails, I am so incredibly sorry you lost "Baby Kitten" it is so hard. I am sending you extra big hugs and big apologies too, we are really all here for you.
Good luck with your healthy 8 cats, and please keep us informed.
CherieTad Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Yes...My little feral FeLV+ kitten died on March 30th...The same day as Steves kitty...Her name was "Baby Kitten"I did post on here and I think 2 people replyed...She didn't make the CLS thoughMaybe I didn't come on here and cry about itenough...But I..Like Steve still think of her and miss her and I guess if I have to readabout Poor Steve every week maybe my kitty could at least be put on the CLS list... Baby Kitty was about 5 months old when she was trapped and tested pos...She waspartialy crippled when I got her and very small...She hated being in the cage so muchthat I let her out to run in the room with my other pos cats who are all very tame...She did eat well but not much of the wet food with the suppliments and until she gotsick I wasn't able to catch her...About 2 weeks before she died I suringe feed
 herand put her on antibiotics...She bounced back and I thought I had saved her...Andalong with that I had tamed her into a real snuggle bug...I didn't have her that longbut I had let myself think that she was going to be around for a while...I lost 3 cats 12 - 14 years old last year but I think loosing the young kitty that nevermade it to her 1st birthday hurts just as much...I have lost 3 other FeLV+ cats but I also have 8 alive and well that I saved from beingPTS the day I brought them home...I guess thats why I keep going TadSteve Williams wrote:
Hi all,

It's been awhile.  I have not been able to read the list.  The email subject
lines alone have been too upsetting to me.  I am beginning to think I will
never recover from the loss of Loki and Leeloo.

I wanted to send you a link to a kind of comic book story my niece Alisha
wrote for her anthropology class.  It features her cats Mitas, Kaiya, and
Dotty (these are also my sister Lynda's and niece Shawna's cats... the first
bunch they rescued).  they lost Leeloo and Loki's siblings, Milo and Abby to
FeLV... All listed on Belinda's CLS list).

Alisha is a bit of an artist. Click "Next" to view each page.

Enjoy,
  Steve

http://alisha.leafglow.com/gallery/gallery36.html




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Re: My Baby Kitten DIED

[Sheila208]

Tad, I'm so sorry about Baby Kitty. I was having AOL trouble around this time not getting all my posts and I also lost my boy Tiger. I know how hard it is to lose these precious Babies. Please know that I will be thinking of you and Baby Kitty. You will be in my prayers. Sheila
<>

Re: My Baby Kitten DIED

[Nina]

Oh Barb, I remember that kitten.  It is so sad to lose them so young.  I 
think the pain is amplified when we take them in praying for miracles, 
almost expecting them to happen.  It's like what happened to Tad, they 
bounce back, you think you've saved them and then wham, heartache.  
Rescue is not for sissies.
Nina

Barb Moermond wrote:
Tad, I am so sorry - the loss of a youngster can hit very hard.  My 
stepdad rescued a kitten he saw thrown from a truck, it's sibling 
didn't make the landing, and she died less than a week later - tiny 
little thing, just barely a handful - from starvation induced 
pneumonia...  There was nothing they could have done to save her.  My 
mom, stepdad and nephew were utterly broken-hearted and she'd been 
with them only days.  And when you've spent days and weeks and even 
months, sometimes, nursing a special needs animal, the bond that 
develops is very deep and the loss cuts that much more.  I hope that 
knowing there are other people out there who feel as deeply for their 
animals as you do for yours helps a little.  Time will pass and you 
will remember the good feelings more than the sad, though you won't 
ever forget Baby Kitty.
 
<<

*/Tad Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
 Yes...My little feral FeLV+ kitten died on March 30th...The same
day as Steves kitty...
Her name was "Baby Kitten"I did post on here and I think 2
people replyed...
She didn't make the CLS thoughMaybe I didn't come on here and
cry about it
enough...But I..Like Steve still think of her and miss her and I
guess if I have to read
about Poor Steve every week maybe my kitty could at least be put
on the CLS list...
 
Baby Kitty was about 5 months old when she was trapped and tested
pos...She was
partialy crippled when I got her and very small...She hated being
in the cage so much
that I let her out to run in the room with my other pos cats who
are all very tame...
She did eat well but not much of the wet food with the suppliments
and until she got
sick I wasn't able to catch her...About 2 weeks before she died I
suringe feed her
and put her on antibiotics...She bounced back and I thought I had
saved her...And
along with that I had tamed her into a real snuggle bug...I didn't
have her that long
but I had let myself think that she was going to be around for a
while...
I lost 3 cats 12 - 14 years old last year but I think loosing the
young kitty that never
made it to her 1st birthday hurts just as much...
I have lost 3 other FeLV+ cats but I also have 8 alive and well
that I saved from being
PTS the day I brought them home...I guess thats why I keep going
 
Tad

Steve Williams wrote:
Hi all,
It's been awhile.  I have not been able to read the list.  The email subject
lines alone have been too upsetting to me.  I am beginning to think I will
never recover from the loss of Loki and Leeloo.
I wanted to send you a link to a kind of comic book story my niece Alisha
wrote for her anthropology class.  It features her cats Mitas, Kaiya, and
Dotty (these are also my sister Lynda's and niece Shawna's cats... the first
bunch they rescued).  they lost Leeloo and Loki's siblings, Milo and Abby to
FeLV... All listed on Belinda's CLS list).
Alisha is a bit of an artist. Click "Next" to view each page.
Enjoy,
 Steve
http://alisha.leafglow.com/gallery/gallery36.html

 

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Re: My Baby Kitten DIED

[Barb Moermond]

Tad, I am so sorry - the loss of a youngster can hit very hard.  My stepdad rescued a kitten he saw thrown from a truck, it's sibling didn't make the landing, and she died less than a week later - tiny little thing, just barely a handful - from starvation induced pneumonia...  There was nothing they could have done to save her.  My mom, stepdad and nephew were utterly broken-hearted and she'd been with them only days.  And when you've spent days and weeks and even months, sometimes, nursing a special needs animal, the bond that develops is very deep and the loss cuts that much more.  I hope that knowing there are other people out there who feel as deeply for their animals as you do for yours helps a little.  Time will pass and you will remember the good feelings more than the sad, though you won't ever forget Baby Kitty.
 
< wrote:
 Yes...My little feral FeLV+ kitten died on March 30th...The same day as Steves kitty...Her name was "Baby Kitten"I did post on here and I think 2 people replyed...She didn't make the CLS thoughMaybe I didn't come on here and cry about itenough...But I..Like Steve still think of her and miss her and I guess if I have to readabout Poor Steve every week maybe my kitty could at least be put on the CLS list... Baby Kitty was about 5 months old when she was trapped and tested pos...She waspartialy crippled when I got her and very small...She hated being in the cage so muchthat I let her out to run in the room with my other pos cats who are all very tame...She did eat well but not much of the wet food with the suppliments and until she gotsick I wasn't able to catch her...About 2 weeks before she died I suringe feed
 herand put her on antibiotics...She bounced back and I thought I had saved her...Andalong with that I had tamed her into a real snuggle bug...I didn't have her that longbut I had let myself think that she was going to be around for a while...I lost 3 cats 12 - 14 years old last year but I think loosing the young kitty that nevermade it to her 1st birthday hurts just as much...I have lost 3 other FeLV+ cats but I also have 8 alive and well that I saved from beingPTS the day I brought them home...I guess thats why I keep going TadSteve Williams wrote:
Hi all,

It's been awhile.  I have not been able to read the list.  The email subject
lines alone have been too upsetting to me.  I am beginning to think I will
never recover from the loss of Loki and Leeloo.

I wanted to send you a link to a kind of comic book story my niece Alisha
wrote for her anthropology class.  It features her cats Mitas, Kaiya, and
Dotty (these are also my sister Lynda's and niece Shawna's cats... the first
bunch they rescued).  they lost Leeloo and Loki's siblings, Milo and Abby to
FeLV... All listed on Belinda's CLS list).

Alisha is a bit of an artist. Click "Next" to view each page.

Enjoy,
  Steve

http://alisha.leafglow.com/gallery/gallery36.html




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Re: My Baby Kitten DIED

[TatorBunz]

I'm so sorry to hear about your baby. I didn't get any posts either about your special baby. 
Been having some problems with AOL.
May all the furangels show her the way. She will be watching over you. The time will come when you will be together again with your furangels. Meanwhile they will romp and chase butterflies with all the others at the bridge.
You are in my thoughts and prayers  :(
 
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Tad, I did not get any posts about her. I am so sorry.Michelle

 
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Re: My Baby Kitten DIED

[Nina]

Tad,
I too replied to your posting about Baby.  I think Tonya has a point 
here about people possibly not reading all the condolences.  I do seem 
to remember you letting us know in a reply to Steve's loss.  We all 
suffer so, with each and every loss.  It can be so painful.  I hadn't 
lost my Jazz yet, and so I did read them all.  After I lost Jazz, I had 
a very hard time reading or writing to the list, especially about 
someone losing their cat.  I know you're still hurting, of course you 
are.  How are Mommy cat and the rest of your charges doing?

I've said it before, but I'll say it again.  I'm so grateful to you for 
all you do for our animal friends.  You've been a warm, safe, loving 
haven to so many.  I feel bad that you didn't, and aren't, getting the 
support you need to help you through this.  We all do understand how you 
feel.  Speaking from experience, I think you may be right about people, 
(like me), who pour their heart out to the list getting more attention.  
Email is such a lousy communication tool for those who are more stoic, 
more the 'suffer in silence' type.  We get so caught up in taking care 
of our own, and trying to help each other, that even though you're in 
our thoughts, we don't write.  Please, start being more of a squeaky 
wheel, let us know what's going on at your house more.   Keep us 
informed, even if it's just to say things are going well.

Nina
catatonya wrote:
Tad,
 
I'm one who did reply.  I am so sorry for your loss, but I admire 
you for having gone through all the losses you have gone through.  I 
think the reason you didn't get many replies (and not added to the 
CLS) is because you told about Baby Kitty in a reply to Steve's post 
that he had lost his cat.  I think a lot of people (after reading the 
announcement that someone has lost one of their cats) simply delete 
all the condolence posts without reading them. So I'm guessing most 
people on the list didn't realize that you lost your baby kitten. 
 I've seen this happen pretty recently with someone else as well.  In 
their condolence reply they said they had just lost their own cat.  
She didn't get many replies either.  I'm sorry if you felt slighted by 
the group.  : (
 
tonya

Re: My Baby Kitten DIED

[Lernermichelle]

Tad, I did not get any posts about her. I am so sorry.
Michelle

Re: My Baby Kitten DIED

[catatonya]

Tad,
 
I'm one who did reply.  I am so sorry for your loss, but I admire you for having gone through all the losses you have gone through.  I think the reason you didn't get many replies (and not added to the CLS) is because you told about Baby Kitty in a reply to Steve's post that he had lost his cat.  I think a lot of people (after reading the announcement that someone has lost one of their cats) simply delete all the condolence posts without reading them. So I'm guessing most people on the list didn't realize that you lost your baby kitten.  I've seen this happen pretty recently with someone else as well.  In their condolence reply they said they had just lost their own cat.  She didn't get many replies either.  I'm sorry if you felt slighted by the group.  : (
 
tonyaTerri Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Tad,
 
How sad!  I was off list from March 29 until about a week ago, so I didn't know.  Poor baby.  But she's waiting for you at the Bridge.  My furangels are looking after her, I'm sure.  Big hugs to you.
 
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- Original Message - 
From: Tad Burnett 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:00 PM
Subject: My Baby Kitten DIED
 Yes...My little feral FeLV+ kitten died on March 30th...The same day as Steves kitty...Her name was "Baby Kitten"I did post on here and I think 2 people replyed...She didn't make the CLS thoughMaybe I didn't come on here and cry about itenough...But I..Like Steve still think of her and miss her and I guess if I have to readabout Poor Steve every week maybe my kitty could at least be put on the CLS list... Baby Kitty was about 5 months old when she was trapped and tested pos...She waspartialy crippled when I got her and very small...She hated being in the cage so muchthat I let her out to run in the room with my other pos cats who are all very tame...She did eat well but not much of the wet food with the suppliments and until she gotsick I wasn't able to catch her...About 2 weeks before she died I suringe feed herand put her on antibiotics...She bounced back and I thought I had saved
 her...Andalong with that I had tamed her into a real snuggle bug...I didn't have her that longbut I had let myself think that she was going to be around for a while...I lost 3 cats 12 - 14 years old last year but I think loosing the young kitty that nevermade it to her 1st birthday hurts just as much...I have lost 3 other FeLV+ cats but I also have 8 alive and well that I saved from beingPTS the day I brought them home...I guess thats why I keep going TadSteve Williams wrote:
Hi all,

It's been awhile.  I have not been able to read the list.  The email subject
lines alone have been too upsetting to me.  I am beginning to think I will
never recover from the loss of Loki and Leeloo.

I wanted to send you a link to a kind of comic book story my niece Alisha
wrote for her anthropology class.  It features her cats Mitas, Kaiya, and
Dotty (these are also my sister Lynda's and niece Shawna's cats... the first
bunch they rescued).  they lost Leeloo and Loki's siblings, Milo and Abby to
FeLV... All listed on Belinda's CLS list).

Alisha is a bit of an artist. Click "Next" to view each page.

Enjoy,
  Steve

http://alisha.leafglow.com/gallery/gallery36.html




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RE: My Baby Kitten DIED

[Steve Williams]

Tad, 
yes it does hurt too much to loose the young ones.  I know all too well 
about seeing positive signs and having hope and getting even more attached than 
before.  It's too cruel... but then you go on... and I am glad you are able 
to take care of, and able to have the comfort of your other 
cats.
 
I 
really lost it today, but sending out the link to my niece's cat comic book was 
something positive for me to do and being able to do that is a sign I am getting 
out of my own funk.
 
Baby 
Kitty will forever be in my memory with Loki.  The babies that 
lose their lives shall not be forgotten.
 
Steve 

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Tad 
  BurnettSent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:00 PMTo: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: My Baby Kitten 
  DIED Yes...My little feral FeLV+ 
  kitten died on March 30th...The same day as Steves kitty...Her name was 
  "Baby Kitten"I did post on here and I think 2 people replyed...She 
  didn't make the CLS thoughMaybe I didn't come on here and cry about 
  itenough...But I..Like Steve still think of her and miss her and I guess 
  if I have to readabout Poor Steve every week maybe my kitty could at least 
  be put on the CLS list... Baby Kitty was about 5 months old when 
  she was trapped and tested pos...She waspartialy crippled when I got her 
  and very small...She hated being in the cage so muchthat I let her out to 
  run in the room with my other pos cats who are all very tame...She did eat 
  well but not much of the wet food with the suppliments and until she 
  gotsick I wasn't able to catch her...About 2 weeks before she died I 
  suringe feed herand put her on antibiotics...She bounced back and I 
  thought I had saved her...Andalong with that I had tamed her into a real 
  snuggle bug...I didn't have her that longbut I had let myself think that 
  she was going to be around for a while...I lost 3 cats 12 - 14 years old 
  last year but I think loosing the young kitty that nevermade it to her 1st 
  birthday hurts just as much...I have lost 3 other FeLV+ cats but I also 
  have 8 alive and well that I saved from beingPTS the day I brought them 
  home...I guess thats why I keep 
  going TadSteve Williams wrote:
  Hi all,

It's been awhile.  I have not been able to read the list.  The email subject
lines alone have been too upsetting to me.  I am beginning to think I will
never recover from the loss of Loki and Leeloo.

I wanted to send you a link to a kind of comic book story my niece Alisha
wrote for her anthropology class.  It features her cats Mitas, Kaiya, and
Dotty (these are also my sister Lynda's and niece Shawna's cats... the first
bunch they rescued).  they lost Leeloo and Loki's siblings, Milo and Abby to
FeLV... All listed on Belinda's CLS list).

Alisha is a bit of an artist. Click "Next" to view each page.

Enjoy,
  Steve

http://alisha.leafglow.com/gallery/gallery36.html




  

Re: My Baby Kitten DIED

[Gloria B. Lane]

Tad, I'm SO sorry - my heart goes out to you... Gloria
At 05:00 PM 4/28/2005, you wrote:
 Yes...My little feral FeLV+ kitten died on March 30th...The same day as 
Steves kitty...
Her name was "Baby Kitten"I did post on here and I think 2 people 
replyed...
She didn't make the CLS thoughMaybe I didn't come on here and cry about it
enough...But I..Like Steve still think of her and miss her and I guess if 
I have to read
about Poor Steve every week maybe my kitty could at least be put on the 
CLS list...

Baby Kitty was about 5 months old when she was trapped and tested 
pos...She was
partialy crippled when I got her and very small...She hated being in the 
cage so much
that I let her out to run in the room with my other pos cats who are all 
very tame...
She did eat well but not much of the wet food with the suppliments and 
until she got
sick I wasn't able to catch her...About 2 weeks before she died I suringe 
feed her
and put her on antibiotics...She bounced back and I thought I had saved 
her...And
along with that I had tamed her into a real snuggle bug...I didn't have 
her that long
but I had let myself think that she was going to be around for a while...
I lost 3 cats 12 - 14 years old last year but I think loosing the young 
kitty that never
made it to her 1st birthday hurts just as much...
I have lost 3 other FeLV+ cats but I also have 8 alive and well that I 
saved from being
PTS the day I brought them home...I guess thats why I keep going

Tad
Steve Williams wrote:
Hi all,
It's been awhile.  I have not been able to read the list.  The email subject
lines alone have been too upsetting to me.  I am beginning to think I will
never recover from the loss of Loki and Leeloo.
I wanted to send you a link to a kind of comic book story my niece Alisha
wrote for her anthropology class.  It features her cats Mitas, Kaiya, and
Dotty (these are also my sister Lynda's and niece Shawna's cats... the first
bunch they rescued).  they lost Leeloo and Loki's siblings, Milo and Abby to
FeLV... All listed on Belinda's CLS list).
Alisha is a bit of an artist. Click "Next" to view each page.
Enjoy,
  Steve
http://alisha.leafglow.com/gallery/gallery36.html


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Re: My Baby Kitten DIED

[Terri Brown]

Tad,
 
How sad!  I was off list from March 29 until about a week ago, so 
I didn't know.  Poor baby.  But she's waiting for you at the 
Bridge.  My furangels are looking after her, I'm sure.  Big hugs to 
you.
 
=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 
furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=
 
Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My 
FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My 
Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tad 
  Burnett 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:00 
  PM
  Subject: My Baby Kitten DIED
   Yes...My little feral FeLV+ kitten died on 
  March 30th...The same day as Steves kitty...Her name was "Baby 
  Kitten"I did post on here and I think 2 people replyed...She didn't 
  make the CLS thoughMaybe I didn't come on here and cry about 
  itenough...But I..Like Steve still think of her and miss her and I guess 
  if I have to readabout Poor Steve every week maybe my kitty could at least 
  be put on the CLS list... Baby Kitty was about 5 months old when 
  she was trapped and tested pos...She waspartialy crippled when I got her 
  and very small...She hated being in the cage so muchthat I let her out to 
  run in the room with my other pos cats who are all very tame...She did eat 
  well but not much of the wet food with the suppliments and until she 
  gotsick I wasn't able to catch her...About 2 weeks before she died I 
  suringe feed herand put her on antibiotics...She bounced back and I 
  thought I had saved her...Andalong with that I had tamed her into a real 
  snuggle bug...I didn't have her that longbut I had let myself think that 
  she was going to be around for a while...I lost 3 cats 12 - 14 years old 
  last year but I think loosing the young kitty that nevermade it to her 1st 
  birthday hurts just as much...I have lost 3 other FeLV+ cats but I also 
  have 8 alive and well that I saved from beingPTS the day I brought them 
  home...I guess thats why I keep 
  going TadSteve Williams wrote:
  Hi all,

It's been awhile.  I have not been able to read the list.  The email subject
lines alone have been too upsetting to me.  I am beginning to think I will
never recover from the loss of Loki and Leeloo.

I wanted to send you a link to a kind of comic book story my niece Alisha
wrote for her anthropology class.  It features her cats Mitas, Kaiya, and
Dotty (these are also my sister Lynda's and niece Shawna's cats... the first
bunch they rescued).  they lost Leeloo and Loki's siblings, Milo and Abby to
FeLV... All listed on Belinda's CLS list).

Alisha is a bit of an artist. Click "Next" to view each page.

Enjoy,
  Steve

http://alisha.leafglow.com/gallery/gallery36.html




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RE: My Baby Kitten DIED

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Dear Tad,

I am so very sorry to hear about your “Baby
Kitten” – she must have been, and still must be a very very special
kitty for you.  For that matter, any kitties are very special to me,
including your Baby Kitten.  Even the ones I never meet, I feel the same
way – they are all precious little miracles on earth!  I am so sorry
that I did not reply to you before.  Sometimes, it’s very painful to
continue to hear sad messages, and I choose not to read sometimes, but that’s
why we are here for – to support each other.  Please don’t
think that the lose of your Baby kitten was not in any way, less significant to
any of us than any of lose we experienced.

 

I do believe personally though, these
little lives will come back for a better life after they crossed over –
your Baby Kitten is right besides you probably, and loves you as she always has
– what does she look like, Tad?  I would still like to know more
about your special kitty, if it’s not too painful for you.

 

Again, thank you for sharing.

 

Hideyo

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tad Burnett
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005
4:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: My Baby Kitten DIED



 

 Yes...My little feral FeLV+ kitten died on March
30th...The same day as Steves kitty...
Her name was "Baby Kitten"I did post on here and I think 2 people
replyed...
She didn't make the CLS thoughMaybe I didn't come on here and cry about it
enough...But I..Like Steve still think of her and miss her and I guess if I
have to read
about Poor Steve every week maybe my kitty could at least be put on the CLS
list...
 
Baby Kitty was about 5 months old when she was trapped and tested pos...She was
partialy crippled when I got her and very small...She hated being in the cage
so much
that I let her out to run in the room with my other pos cats who are all very
tame...
She did eat well but not much of the wet food with the suppliments and until
she got
sick I wasn't able to catch her...About 2 weeks before she died I suringe feed
her
and put her on antibiotics...She bounced back and I thought I had saved
her...And
along with that I had tamed her into a real snuggle bug...I didn't have her
that long
but I had let myself think that she was going to be around for a while...
I lost 3 cats 12 - 14 years old last year but I think loosing the young kitty
that never
made it to her 1st birthday hurts just as much...
I have lost 3 other FeLV+ cats but I also have 8 alive and well that I saved
from being
PTS the day I brought them home...I guess thats why I keep going
 
Tad


Steve Williams wrote:



Hi all, It's been awhile.  I have not been able to read the list.  The email subjectlines alone have been too upsetting to me.  I am beginning to think I willnever recover from the loss of Loki and Leeloo. I wanted to send you a link to a kind of comic book story my niece Alishawrote for her anthropology class.  It features her cats Mitas, Kaiya, andDotty (these are also my sister Lynda's and niece Shawna's cats... the firstbunch they rescued).  they lost Leeloo and Loki's siblings, Milo and Abby toFeLV... All listed on Belinda's CLS list). Alisha is a bit of an artist. Click "Next" to view each page. Enjoy,  Steve http://alisha.leafglow.com/gallery/gallery36.html