Re: [Felvtalk] Merlot status update

2015-10-20 Thread Amani Oakley
Maya No matter what the outcome is of the temperature, I would suggest you start him on the Winstrol anyway. This is an omen of things to come. The virus is in there and causing a problem. It is unlikely to go away on its own. Don’t wait until he is doing badly to start the Winstrol. Again,

Re: [Felvtalk] Merlot status update

2015-10-20 Thread Margo
Hi Maya,    Just my experience, but during Gribble's first crash (which brought his diagnosis) his fever went above 107. The only thing that brought it down was Ketoprofen. He got it daily for about a week. Many Vets don't use it for some reason (probably because of concerns about using

Re: [Felvtalk] Merlot status update

2015-10-20 Thread Maya D'Alessio
Does the winstrol work on the fever though? On Oct 20, 2015 3:21 AM, "Amani Oakley" wrote: > Maya > > > > No matter what the outcome is of the temperature, I would suggest you > start him on the Winstrol anyway. This is an omen of things to come. The > virus is in there

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-20 Thread Maya D'Alessio
Thank you Amani, I really, really appreciate the support. I will agree with you that I do see the negative aspect of outlook from vets. With my last cat, I was less informed, and agreed with everything the vets were suggesting, including euthanization, as I was told she would just die slowly

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol®)

2015-10-20 Thread dlgegg
I AM GLAD WE HAVE PEOPLE ON FELVTALK TO HELP EVERYONE THROU THESE TIMES. Amani Oakley wrote: > Maya, > > Seriously, I have to wonder about some vets. What is he offering you that > will help your cat?? > > Anyhow, all I can say is I am happy I have a supportive

Re: [Felvtalk] Merlot status update

2015-10-20 Thread Amani Oakley
Here is the excerpt from The Merck Veterinary Manual, in the chapter entitled “Drugs Acting on the Blood or Blood-forming Organs”: Anabolic steroids are compounds structurally related to testosterone that have similar protein-anabolic activity but minimal androgenic effects, such as

[Felvtalk] Feline CRF Information Center - Medications

2015-10-20 Thread Amani Oakley
Here is another about the use of Winstrol for Chronic Renal Failure. Note that a warning came out about its use and possibly causing liver damage in 2000 (as per my earlier posts), but the information on the website, says "We can only judge in hindsight through our experience with Avatar who

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-20 Thread dlgegg
tHAT IS RIGHT! Amani Oakley wrote: > Hi Maya, I will send you a private email with my vet’s name and phone number. > > Regarding the intake of food, you need to support him while he fights this > thing. I don’t think anyone can give you a hard and fast time

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-20 Thread Amani Oakley
Maya I don’t think that the fever would last that long, but the appetite depression isn’t just about the fever. With Zander, it was a slow climb back, with me having to sit with him at least two times a day in a separate room while I encouraged him to eat. It took a while before his appetite

Re: [Felvtalk] Merlot status update

2015-10-20 Thread Amani Oakley
I tried to send another link to an interesting scientific study entitled “Winstrol-V (Stanozolol) Therapy and Nitrogen Retention in Dogs” by Olson ME, et. al. Unfortunately, for some reason I couldn’t send a link. Therefore, do a Google search by plugging in this title. Though it is a study in

Re: [Felvtalk] Merlot status update

2015-10-20 Thread Amani Oakley
Hi Maya The fever is secondary to everything else going on. Keep him on the rest of the stuff anyway, and just add the Winstrol. My experience is that the fever will dissipate with the improvement of his blood counts, etc. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On

Re: [Felvtalk] Merlot status update

2015-10-20 Thread Maya D'Alessio
My vet is not supportive of winstrol treatment, does anyone know of any sources I could send him to change his mind? On Oct 20, 2015 11:34 AM, "Amani Oakley" wrote: > Hi Maya > > > > The fever is secondary to everything else going on. Keep him on the rest > of the stuff

Re: [Felvtalk] Merlot status update

2015-10-20 Thread Amani Oakley
My Google search also pulled up a textbook called “Feline Internal Medicine Secrets” by Michael R Lappin. On page 318, in the chapter entitled “Anorexia and Weight Loss”, Winstrol is listed as an “Appetite stimulating drug”. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf

[Felvtalk] Winstrol

2015-10-20 Thread Amani Oakley
At an internet site called Winstrol.net, it has the following blurb as to when Winstrol is used in animals: Why Stanozolol Is Used On Pets Stanozolol - sold commercially as Winstrol or Winstrol Depot - is a kind of anabolic steroid that is most commonly used by humans. However, Stanozolol

[Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol®)

2015-10-20 Thread Amani Oakley
Maya, Seriously, I have to wonder about some vets. What is he offering you that will help your cat?? Anyhow, all I can say is I am happy I have a supportive vet. I will send you some links to stuff about Winstrol, but it is hard to find since the mind-set you have encountered already, is all

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-20 Thread Amani Oakley
Hi Maya, I will send you a private email with my vet’s name and phone number. Regarding the intake of food, you need to support him while he fights this thing. I don’t think anyone can give you a hard and fast time frame regarding when to stop, but I will do my utmost to give my cats every

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-20 Thread Maya D'Alessio
Oh wow, yes I am in Waterloo. Can you send me your vet's information and I will pass it along to my vet immediately. He is mentioning AZT and interferon, but Merlot has a persistent fever and won't eat, I am assuming his body is not up to those drugs yet. He's currently on doxy, prednisolone and

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-20 Thread Margo
   I remember researching AZT an deciding against it, but I don't recall why.  My two boys have been on interferon for years (low dose one week on, one week off) and I've never seen any adverse effects, but when they're sick, they seem to perk up during the "on" weeks. The anti-nausea was likely

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-20 Thread Maya D'Alessio
You've been plenty helpful, thank you. What I need to figure out how to do, is accept the situation and be less emotional about it, no matter which way it goes, until the time comes. Right now I'm just so emotional, I keep flip-flopping between optimistic and hopeless. Do you know with the

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-20 Thread Lance
My FeLV+ girl Ember got five-on five-off interferon. I can’t remember if it was 1ml or .5ml, but it wasn’t a large dose. I seem to remember a vet at a specialized clinic telling me that we didn’t have to stagger it, but my “country vet” had prescribed it that way, and we stuck to it. AZT can

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-20 Thread Amani Oakley
I feel for you Maya. If there are issues with anemia, then none of the other medications he has Merlin on, will touch the anemia, other than the Winstrol. Tell him you will sign a form if he wants you to do that, indicating that you take full responsibility for treating with Winstrol, but you

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-20 Thread Maya D'Alessio
Good news; his temperature is down to a "high normal", bad news; he has an anemia murmur. The vet was not hearing me about Winstrol and he seemed in a bad mood. I'm hanging on to the decreased fever as a sign of good things. We will re-do blood work tomorrow and re-asses in the morning. On Tue,

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-20 Thread Ardy Robertson
Hello Maya, Just a note on your comment that your cat is not grooming himself. Our Tigger had a high fever – 105.8 and possibly higher before that – and was not grooming. I feel that the sub-cutaneous fluids helped the fever. They did that every day for a while, and I also gave small amounts

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-20 Thread Amani Oakley
Ardy If you do decide to try the Winstrol, get his blood checked before and then after a few weeks on the Winstrol. If this works as well for you as it did for me, you will want some solid proof to demonstrate its effect. Hopefully, the vet will learn, as mine did since I got weekly blood work

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-20 Thread Ardy Robertson
Thank you so much Amani – it really sounds like you have done your homework!! And that’s just it – this happened so fast and took us so off-guard that I didn’t have any knowledge of what to do. We took him in on a Sunday night, and after putting some “puzzle pieces” together, I think he was

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-20 Thread Ardy Robertson
Hello – can I chime in here a bit? My cat Tigger is on Interferon (7 days on then 7 days off and repeat) for FeLV. I think it might be helping but his appetite is poor and I have to syringe feed him. Surprisingly a very large syringe seems to work better than the small ones. I go slow to make

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-20 Thread Maya D'Alessio
Thanks Ardy. He just was grooming for about a minute, so that was exciting! I've been cleaning him off (especially after the feedings) as he makes a lot of mess. On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Ardy Robertson wrote: > Hello Maya, > > Just a note on your comment that

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-20 Thread Ardy Robertson
Isn’t it exciting when they go back to doing something like grooming, or playing a bit! So happy that the fever is down to manageable levels – I’m sure he feels so much better! Our Tigger opens cupboard doors, shreds toilet paper when the bathroom door is left open etc. I was so happy after he