Thanks Ardy. He just was grooming for about a minute, so that was exciting! I've been cleaning him off (especially after the feedings) as he makes a lot of mess.
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote: > Hello Maya, > > Just a note on your comment that your cat is not grooming himself. Our > Tigger had a high fever – 105.8 and possibly higher before that – and was > not grooming. I feel that the sub-cutaneous fluids helped the fever. They > did that every day for a while, and I also gave small amounts of water by > syringe. I used a wet wash cloth and did his grooming for him during that > time, and believe it or not, I think he enjoyed being wiped down, he just > wasn’t able to do it for himself. Best wishes with your cat. > > Ardy Robertson > > > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Maya D'Alessio > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 20, 2015 1:08 PM > > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > Thank you Amani, I really, really appreciate the support. I will agree > with you that I do see the negative aspect of outlook from vets. With my > last cat, I was less informed, and agreed with everything the vets were > suggesting, including euthanization, as I was told she would just die > slowly otherwise. Maybe her outlook could have been improved with some time > and TLC. I feel a bit better with your 1 month time line, I was worried > about a time line of days. Have your cats continued with fevers for that > long? I am really concerned about how soon we should expect the fever to > turn around. I think once his fever gets better he has a much better chance > of regaining his appetite. > > > > I have been syringe feeding the AD food (I think it's science diet), we > are trying to get 1 can in to him every day. I know he's not extremely > comfortable right now, but he has been a bit more active in the last day. > He's not grooming at all though. > > > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> > wrote: > > Hi Maya, I will send you a private email with my vet’s name and phone > number. > > > > Regarding the intake of food, you need to support him while he fights this > thing. I don’t think anyone can give you a hard and fast time frame > regarding when to stop, but I will do my utmost to give my cats every > chance. I usually can get sufficient baby food into them via syringe if > necessary, for an extended period of time usually. I continue as long as I > see that it is helping to allow him to live to fight another day. With > something like leukemia, when they crash, you really should expect at least > a month of convalescence and reduced appetite, while hopefully other things > like the Winstrol start to increase his blood counts. He needs to keep > eating while his blood counts go up, and you need to give him the time to > recover. > > > > I know that other people have a very different view, and I have learned > that people really are of two minds on this. I think it is a personal > decision, but for me, I don’t give up unless I see there is no hope, and I > don’t give up well after my vets are ready to throw in the towel. > Thankfully, my vets know me well enough and trust me enough now, to let me > work as hard as I can to save my cats. They provide support and help and > advice, and have been wonderful enough to admit when I am successful when > they had predicted nothing but failure. > > > > Amani > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Maya D'Alessio > *Sent:* October-20-15 1:56 PM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > Oh wow, yes I am in Waterloo. Can you send me your vet's information and I > will pass it along to my vet immediately. > > > > He is mentioning AZT and interferon, but Merlot has a persistent fever and > won't eat, I am assuming his body is not up to those drugs yet. He's > currently on doxy, prednisolone and mirtazipine (appetite stimulant), and > they gave him an antinauseant shot last night (cevinia I think). > > > > Question to the larger group; my cat is uncomfortable (although better > than yesterday), I have to force feed him and he's on a ton of drugs. How > long is this feasible? How long should I let it go if we don't see > improvement? How do you make that call. With my last cat, she deteriorated > so rapidly and it was so dire that it was a pretty straight forward call. > > > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> > wrote: > > Maya, > > Seriously, I have to wonder about some vets. What is he offering you that > will help your cat?? > > Anyhow, all I can say is I am happy I have a supportive vet. I will send > you some links to stuff about Winstrol, but it is hard to find since the > mind-set you have encountered already, is all too common, even when our > cats are dying and there are few realistic alternatives. > > Most of the links I will send to you will not speak to the use of Winstrol > specifically for FeLV, but speak to things like building up strength and > improving appetite. > > Here is the first - very generic. > > > > http://www.petplace.com/article/drug-library/library/prescription/stanozolol-winstrol > > Amani > > P.S. - I also noticed you are not far from me. My vet is in Etobicoke, in > the outskirts of Toronto. Perhaps your vet should call my vet? > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > -- > > Maya D'Alessio > > PhD student > > B1 377B, x32320 > > Graduate Studies Endowment Fund Coordinator > > Biology GSA Vice Chair > > GSA Director At-Large > > University of Waterloo > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > -- > > Maya D'Alessio > > PhD student > > B1 377B, x32320 > > Graduate Studies Endowment Fund Coordinator > > Biology GSA Vice Chair > > GSA Director At-Large > > University of Waterloo > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- Maya D'Alessio PhD student B1 377B, x32320 Graduate Studies Endowment Fund Coordinator Biology GSA Vice Chair GSA Director At-Large University of Waterloo
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