Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten - Update
Hi Everyone: I took Cali to Dr. Wright here in Dallas as Lakewood Vet Hospital. He is very compassionate and took a lot of time trying to explain what was going on. He agreed that it was highly unlikely that Sasha would get the virus since Cali had probably had the virus from birth and they have always been indoors. Sasha has been vaccinated and she also tested negative on Monday of this week. He is doing a IFA test to be sure of Cali's situation. He drew blood on Wednesday, but then his office called yesterday and said that I needed to bring Cali back in because the lab (or someone) messed up the test, and it had to be redone. So I still don't know the results. He wanted to start her on 1cc of Interferon Alpha 2B (1X a day for 7 days and then 1 time a week for thereafter). She ate really well yesterday all day long but is still really tired and basically wanted to eat, drink water, and sleep. Last night, before I started the Interferon, she started breathing with short, fast, breaths. She was still eating and drinking well, just seemed to be breathing more abruptly than normal. I went ahead and started her on the medication, but now this morning, she doesn't really want to eat and isn't drinking much water. She is still breathing kind of hard. I called the Vet and told them I wasn't going to bring her in to draw more blood today because she seemed nauseaed and she has been at a vet almost every day this week. They tell you not to stress a cat the is FeLV+ and then you need to take them to a stressful environment everyday. I don't understand. I told them they would have to draw the blood on Monday morning. I guess my question is, can the Interferon give them nausea? She hasn't thrown up, but she smacks her lips together, which I think is a sign that she has an upset stomach. The Vet said that I needed to be concerned about her not eating, but she was eating before I gave her the Interferon. It's just last night her breathing changed to quick short breaths, before I started the medication, so I don't know if that is something I should be more concerned about more than the not eating, or what. Too many things are changing, and I don't know what to do first. Please give me some input. Thanks, Cathy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten - Update
IF Interferon causes nausea, perhaps you could get some anti-nausea pills from the vet and crush into her food, something she would really like. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ckess...@cox.net Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten - Update Hi Everyone: I took Cali to Dr. Wright here in Dallas as Lakewood Vet Hospital. He is very compassionate and took a lot of time trying to explain what was going on. He agreed that it was highly unlikely that Sasha would get the virus since Cali had probably had the virus from birth and they have always been indoors. Sasha has been vaccinated and she also tested negative on Monday of this week. He is doing a IFA test to be sure of Cali's situation. He drew blood on Wednesday, but then his office called yesterday and said that I needed to bring Cali back in because the lab (or someone) messed up the test, and it had to be redone. So I still don't know the results. He wanted to start her on 1cc of Interferon Alpha 2B (1X a day for 7 days and then 1 time a week for thereafter). She ate really well yesterday all day long but is still really tired and basically wanted to eat, drink water, and sleep. Last night, before I started the Interferon, she started breathing with short, fast, breaths. She was still eating and drinking well, just seemed to be breathing more abruptly than normal. I went ahead and started her on the medication, but now this morning, she doesn't really want to eat and isn't drinking much water. She is still breathing kind of hard. I called the Vet and told them I wasn't going to bring her in to draw more blood today because she seemed nauseaed and she has been at a vet almost every day this week. They tell you not to stress a cat the is FeLV+ and then you need to take them to a stressful environment everyday. I don't understand. I told them they would have to draw the blood on Monday morning. I guess my question is, can the Interferon give them nausea? She hasn't thrown up, but she smacks her lips together, which I think is a sign that she has an upset stomach. The Vet said that I needed to be concerned about her not eating, but she was eating before I gave her the Interferon. It's just last night her breathing changed to quick short breaths, before I started the medication, so I don't know if that is something I should be more concerned about more than the not eating, or what. Too many things are changing, and I don't know what to do first. Please give me some input. Thanks, Cathy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten - Update
I could be way out there, but worry if she could have a fluid accumulation in the chest impacting her breathing. An X-ray or ultrasound would probably be needed to determine that. I am very sorry for what you and little Cali are going through, I know it is both painful and frustrating...and as you said, very stressful. I hope you will have answers soon, I am not experienced with interferon but hopefully others will have some input. Sending best wishes for Cali, and you- Heather Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^= On Jun 25, 2011, at 2:57 PM, ckess...@cox.net wrote: Hi Everyone: I took Cali to Dr. Wright here in Dallas as Lakewood Vet Hospital. He is very compassionate and took a lot of time trying to explain what was going on. He agreed that it was highly unlikely that Sasha would get the virus since Cali had probably had the virus from birth and they have always been indoors. Sasha has been vaccinated and she also tested negative on Monday of this week. He is doing a IFA test to be sure of Cali's situation. He drew blood on Wednesday, but then his office called yesterday and said that I needed to bring Cali back in because the lab (or someone) messed up the test, and it had to be redone. So I still don't know the results. He wanted to start her on 1cc of Interferon Alpha 2B (1X a day for 7 days and then 1 time a week for thereafter). She ate really well yesterday all day long but is still really tired and basically wanted to eat, drink water, and sleep. Last night, before I started the Interferon, she started breathing with short, fast, breaths. She was still eating and drinking well, just seemed to be breathing more abruptly than normal. I went ahead and started her on the medication, but now this morning, she doesn't really want to eat and isn't drinking much water. She is still breathing kind of hard. I called the Vet and told them I wasn't going to bring her in to draw more blood today because she seemed nauseaed and she has been at a vet almost every day this week. They tell you not to stress a cat the is FeLV+ and then you need to take them to a stressful environment everyday. I don't understand. I told them they would have to draw the blood on Monday morning. I guess my question is, can the Interferon give them nausea? She hasn't thrown up, but she smacks her lips together, which I think is a sign that she has an upset stomach. The Vet said that I needed to be concerned about her not eating, but she was eating before I gave her the Interferon. It's just last night her breathing changed to quick short breaths, before I started the medication, so I don't know if that is something I should be more concerned about more than the not eating, or what. Too many things are changing, and I don't know what to do first. Please give me some input. Thanks, Cathy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten - Update
My Dexter has been on interferon since October and the only effect I've ever noticed is that on the weeks he is on it, he is ever so slightly less energetic. I've never seen him act nauseated because of it. In Cali's situation, there are so many things that could be impacting her breathing and the nausea. Perhaps the smacking of the lips is an indication that she doesn't like the salty taste of the interferon? If possible, try to avoid getting it on her tongue and aim for the roof of her mouth or cheek. The interferon needs to get to her tonsils for absorption - either way, I'm sure she'll grow accustomed to taking it - Dexter has gotten to the point where he gets on the kitchen counter at the same time every day to take his dose - I think these kitties are able to put together that the bad tasting stuff makes them feel better. As far as the rapid breathing is concerned, Dexter is having that problem now, actually... It's more than likely him experiencing stress from being to the vet 4 times this week, but any stress can cause it. Cali needs a safe spot where she can stay cool and keep from allowing any stress in your house (loud noises, the other kitty) to scare her. She should calm down and begin breathing more easily once she is relaxed. We started Dex on the lymphocyte t-cell immunomodulator yesterday. He's been taking immunoregulin for a week as well, though the doc recommended that we not give it to him yesterday as the iV injection was seriously stressing him. Today, I'm regretting not having given it to him as he is more lethargic than he has been all week and he looks as though he feels terrible. Dex had managed not to lose any weight during the last few weeks and had started showing signs that his red cell count was improving. Not the case today. He will be getting dose two of LTCI on Monday - I'm hoping he starts showing some better signs this weekend. On Jun 25, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: IF Interferon causes nausea, perhaps you could get some anti-nausea pills from the vet and crush into her food, something she would really like. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ckess...@cox.net Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten - Update Hi Everyone: I took Cali to Dr. Wright here in Dallas as Lakewood Vet Hospital. He is very compassionate and took a lot of time trying to explain what was going on. He agreed that it was highly unlikely that Sasha would get the virus since Cali had probably had the virus from birth and they have always been indoors. Sasha has been vaccinated and she also tested negative on Monday of this week. He is doing a IFA test to be sure of Cali's situation. He drew blood on Wednesday, but then his office called yesterday and said that I needed to bring Cali back in because the lab (or someone) messed up the test, and it had to be redone. So I still don't know the results. He wanted to start her on 1cc of Interferon Alpha 2B (1X a day for 7 days and then 1 time a week for thereafter). She ate really well yesterday all day long but is still really tired and basically wanted to eat, drink water, and sleep. Last night, before I started the Interferon, she started breathing with short, fast, breaths. She was still eating and drinking well, just seemed to be breathing more abruptly than normal. I went ahead and started her on the medication, but now this morning, she doesn't really want to eat and isn't drinking much water. She is still breathing kind of hard. I called the Vet and told them I wasn't going to bring her in to draw more blood today because she seemed nauseaed and she has been at a vet almost every day this week. They tell you not to stress a cat the is FeLV+ and then you need to take them to a stressful environment everyday. I don't understand. I told them they would have to draw the blood on Monday morning. I guess my question is, can the Interferon give them nausea? She hasn't thrown up, but she smacks her lips together, which I think is a sign that she has an upset stomach. The Vet said that I needed to be concerned about her not eating, but she was eating before I gave her the Interferon. It's just last night her breathing changed to quick short breaths, before I started the medication, so I don't know if that is something I should be more concerned about more than the not eating, or what. Too many things are changing, and I don't know what to do first. Please give me some input. Thanks, Cathy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten - Update
You should definitely have her chest X-rayed. Her symptoms sound a bit like my Fuji's. She has mediastinal lymphoma. With treatment, she is still very healthy almost year after being diagnosed! On the other hand, when VooDoo had a couple of bouts with the panting like breaths. I panicked, thinking, OH no, not again. He had a bit of fluid on his lungs. The doctor gave him antibiotics and cleared it right up! No cancer there. Keep pressing forward because you wi find your answers! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2011, at 3:57 AM, ckess...@cox.net wrote: Hi Everyone: I took Cali to Dr. Wright here in Dallas as Lakewood Vet Hospital. He is very compassionate and took a lot of time trying to explain what was going on. He agreed that it was highly unlikely that Sasha would get the virus since Cali had probably had the virus from birth and they have always been indoors. Sasha has been vaccinated and she also tested negative on Monday of this week. He is doing a IFA test to be sure of Cali's situation. He drew blood on Wednesday, but then his office called yesterday and said that I needed to bring Cali back in because the lab (or someone) messed up the test, and it had to be redone. So I still don't know the results. He wanted to start her on 1cc of Interferon Alpha 2B (1X a day for 7 days and then 1 time a week for thereafter). She ate really well yesterday all day long but is still really tired and basically wanted to eat, drink water, and sleep. Last night, before I started the Interferon, she started breathing with short, fast, breaths. She was still eating and drinking well, just seemed to be breathing more abruptly than normal. I went ahead and started her on the medication, but now this morning, she doesn't really want to eat and isn't drinking much water. She is still breathing kind of hard. I called the Vet and told them I wasn't going to bring her in to draw more blood today because she seemed nauseaed and she has been at a vet almost every day this week. They tell you not to stress a cat the is FeLV+ and then you need to take them to a stressful environment everyday. I don't understand. I told them they would have to draw the blood on Monday morning. I guess my question is, can the Interferon give them nausea? She hasn't thrown up, but she smacks her lips together, which I think is a sign that she has an upset stomach. The Vet said that I needed to be concerned about her not eating, but she was eating before I gave her the Interferon. It's just last night her breathing changed to quick short breaths, before I started the medication, so I don't know if that is something I should be more concerned about more than the not eating, or what. Too many things are changing, and I don't know what to do first. Please give me some input. Thanks, Cathy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
Cathy, I rescued my cat, Buddy, from a thicket behind a parking lot when he was 5 weeks old. I took him to the vet the day after I rescued him and he tested positive. Well, the vet told me to euthanize him - I did not like that at all. So as Buddy was clutching my shirt, I yelled at the vet YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KILL MY KITTEN!!! And ran crying from the office. Dramatic, sure, but I think it made my point - and I hope the vet was more tactful with pet parents after that. I had him retested a couple of months later, got second opinions, and now Buddy is 2 years old and VERY healthy. I found a new vet that is great with my cats, euthanasia shouldn't ever be the first option. Good luck! Katy On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: Cathy, you have already gotten some good advise. I've rescued several FeLV kittens and treasured the time I had with them. They enjoyed 1 to 4+ years of being pampered and loved. I mixed my positives and negatives but my negatives were all adult cats and current on their FeLV vaccine. You can do so much to make whatever time Cali has a joy to both of you. I would get Sasha tested and vaccinated if she hasn't been already. I am disturbed that Petco is adopting out kittens that have not been tested for FeLV or FIV. I also do TNR and rescue kittens. I test all the rescued kittens before offering them for adoption. Give Cali a hug from me. Sharyl From: ckess...@cox.net ckess...@cox.net To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 4:40 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been little, but playful and happy until last week. They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - die. Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very healthy. The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep. She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
Good for you Katy and I don't trust any vet whose first option is kill the kitten :( Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:56:31 -0400 From: athenapities...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten Cathy, I rescued my cat, Buddy, from a thicket behind a parking lot when he was 5 weeks old. I took him to the vet the day after I rescued him and he tested positive. Well, the vet told me to euthanize him - I did not like that at all. So as Buddy was clutching my shirt, I yelled at the vet YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KILL MY KITTEN!!! And ran crying from the office. Dramatic, sure, but I think it made my point - and I hope the vet was more tactful with pet parents after that. I had him retested a couple of months later, got second opinions, and now Buddy is 2 years old and VERY healthy. I found a new vet that is great with my cats, euthanasia shouldn't ever be the first option. Good luck! Katy On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: Cathy, you have already gotten some good advise. I've rescued several FeLV kittens and treasured the time I had with them. They enjoyed 1 to 4+ years of being pampered and loved. I mixed my positives and negatives but my negatives were all adult cats and current on their FeLV vaccine. You can do so much to make whatever time Cali has a joy to both of you. I would get Sasha tested and vaccinated if she hasn't been already. I am disturbed that Petco is adopting out kittens that have not been tested for FeLV or FIV. I also do TNR and rescue kittens. I test all the rescued kittens before offering them for adoption. Give Cali a hug from me. Sharyl From: ckess...@cox.net ckess...@cox.net To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 4:40 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been little, but playful and happy until last week. They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - die. Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very healthy. The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep. She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
Cathy, I agree -- PTS isn't always the answer. Consult with the Vet that Barb suggested and stick to your guns. Barb has been on this list a long time, and she knows what she's talking about. I've been lurking for the past few years -- but I had a total of 5 FeLV babies, and the oldest lived to be 9-1/2. So don't despair. My home is currently FeLV free, but these babies deserve a chance. there ARE options available. =^..^= Terri, Siggie, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^= - Original Message - From: Edna Taylormailto:taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten Good for you Katy and I don't trust any vet whose first option is kill the kitten :( Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:56:31 -0400 From: athenapities...@gmail.commailto:athenapities...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten Cathy, I rescued my cat, Buddy, from a thicket behind a parking lot when he was 5 weeks old. I took him to the vet the day after I rescued him and he tested positive. Well, the vet told me to euthanize him - I did not like that at all. So as Buddy was clutching my shirt, I yelled at the vet YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KILL MY KITTEN!!! And ran crying from the office. Dramatic, sure, but I think it made my point - and I hope the vet was more tactful with pet parents after that. I had him retested a couple of months later, got second opinions, and now Buddy is 2 years old and VERY healthy. I found a new vet that is great with my cats, euthanasia shouldn't ever be the first option. Good luck! Katy On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.commailto:cline...@yahoo.com wrote: Cathy, you have already gotten some good advise. I've rescued several FeLV kittens and treasured the time I had with them. They enjoyed 1 to 4+ years of being pampered and loved. I mixed my positives and negatives but my negatives were all adult cats and current on their FeLV vaccine. You can do so much to make whatever time Cali has a joy to both of you. I would get Sasha tested and vaccinated if she hasn't been already. I am disturbed that Petco is adopting out kittens that have not been tested for FeLV or FIV. I also do TNR and rescue kittens. I test all the rescued kittens before offering them for adoption. Give Cali a hug from me. Sharyl From: ckess...@cox.netmailto:ckess...@cox.net ckess...@cox.netmailto:ckess...@cox.net To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 4:40 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been little, but playful and happy until last week. They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - die. Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very healthy. The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep. She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
My new vet cracked me up when I took Chloe in for her yearly shots. He said, Chloe is a little overweight, but since she has feline leukemia, I don't really mind. Usually, cats with feline leukemia are under weight. Not my cat!!! It just made me smile :-) ---Katy On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: Good for you Katy and I don't trust any vet whose first option is kill the kitten :( Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:56:31 -0400 From: athenapities...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten Cathy, I rescued my cat, Buddy, from a thicket behind a parking lot when he was 5 weeks old. I took him to the vet the day after I rescued him and he tested positive. Well, the vet told me to euthanize him - I did not like that at all. So as Buddy was clutching my shirt, I yelled at the vet YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KILL MY KITTEN!!! And ran crying from the office. Dramatic, sure, but I think it made my point - and I hope the vet was more tactful with pet parents after that. I had him retested a couple of months later, got second opinions, and now Buddy is 2 years old and VERY healthy. I found a new vet that is great with my cats, euthanasia shouldn't ever be the first option. Good luck! Katy On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: Cathy, you have already gotten some good advise. I've rescued several FeLV kittens and treasured the time I had with them. They enjoyed 1 to 4+ years of being pampered and loved. I mixed my positives and negatives but my negatives were all adult cats and current on their FeLV vaccine. You can do so much to make whatever time Cali has a joy to both of you. I would get Sasha tested and vaccinated if she hasn't been already. I am disturbed that Petco is adopting out kittens that have not been tested for FeLV or FIV. I also do TNR and rescue kittens. I test all the rescued kittens before offering them for adoption. Give Cali a hug from me. Sharyl From: ckess...@cox.net ckess...@cox.net To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 4:40 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been little, but playful and happy until last week. They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - die. Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very healthy. The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep. She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
Natalie, Just a note of caution, a mom cat can test negative and still have positive babies. Happened to me. Also, if they are tested immediately upon rescue, there can be false negatives because the virus is still incubating and hasn't had time to show up yet. Also happened to me. Even if a rescue or shelter has run tests on mom and all babies, they should warn people not to put too much faith in a single test, positive or negative, and emphasize the importance of quarantining until the adopter can get a second test run. In my case, I vaccinated my negs and mixed and they are still negative. One of the positives made it to 3.5 years, with no FeLV issues until the very end. He was a joy to have known, and I still miss him. Best wishes, Beth On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net I would definitely contact PetCo and advise them of this; it is totally unethical to adopt out a cat that may be FeLV+ or FIV+- if there was a mother cat, she should have been tested. Depending on the kitten's age at the time of adoption, if old enough, she should also have been tested! Any cat adopted from my group must be FIV/FeLV negative! I'm sure you will hear more from others! Best of luck and hang in there - I am so sorry for you and your dilemma! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My Tucson tested neg on Elissa (in office) snap test when she was 6-8 weeks old. Then almost 6 years later, she was a bit ill my very sharp vet at the time, retested her she tested pos for FELV (Elissa IFA). Now 7 years later, Tucson is still with us and intermixed with the 3 other cats had lived with prior to the pos test. They all tested neg even though they had shared dishes, litter boxes, toys, groomed each other, etc. all those years. I did lose my romeo, a stray I took in who did turn out to be pos. He was around 4 when I took him in died last year 6 years later of lymphoma. Again, I mixed all of them. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Noren Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten Natalie, Just a note of caution, a mom cat can test negative and still have positive babies. Happened to me. Also, if they are tested immediately upon rescue, there can be false negatives because the virus is still incubating and hasn't had time to show up yet. Also happened to me. Even if a rescue or shelter has run tests on mom and all babies, they should warn people not to put too much faith in a single test, positive or negative, and emphasize the importance of quarantining until the adopter can get a second test run. In my case, I vaccinated my negs and mixed and they are still negative. One of the positives made it to 3.5 years, with no FeLV issues until the very end. He was a joy to have known, and I still miss him. Best wishes, Beth On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net I would definitely contact PetCo and advise them of this; it is totally unethical to adopt out a cat that may be FeLV+ or FIV+- if there was a mother cat, she should have been tested. Depending on the kitten's age at the time of adoption, if old enough, she should also have been tested! Any cat adopted from my group must be FIV/FeLV negative! I'm sure you will hear more from others! Best of luck and hang in there - I am so sorry for you and your dilemma! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
I know from experience about false positives, and false negatives! But how can kittens be FeLV+ if mom wasn't, unless she was exposed, kittens got it through birth or from milk, and she would soon test positive. I wonder, in that scenario, could she also turn out to be negative, not having succumbed to it. I am more of a FIV expert, because I have had too numerous to mention by case (since 1992), FIV+ mothers, whose kittens NEVER tested positive, UNLESS it was done when they were too young - then you wait, do it again, and many vets and people don't, they merely kill them!!! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Noren Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten Natalie, Just a note of caution, a mom cat can test negative and still have positive babies. Happened to me. Also, if they are tested immediately upon rescue, there can be false negatives because the virus is still incubating and hasn't had time to show up yet. Also happened to me. Even if a rescue or shelter has run tests on mom and all babies, they should warn people not to put too much faith in a single test, positive or negative, and emphasize the importance of quarantining until the adopter can get a second test run. In my case, I vaccinated my negs and mixed and they are still negative. One of the positives made it to 3.5 years, with no FeLV issues until the very end. He was a joy to have known, and I still miss him. Best wishes, Beth On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net I would definitely contact PetCo and advise them of this; it is totally unethical to adopt out a cat that may be FeLV+ or FIV+- if there was a mother cat, she should have been tested. Depending on the kitten's age at the time of adoption, if old enough, she should also have been tested! Any cat adopted from my group must be FIV/FeLV negative! I'm sure you will hear more from others! Best of luck and hang in there - I am so sorry for you and your dilemma! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I On 06-22, Edna Taylor wrote: Good for you Katy and I don't trust any vet whose first option is kill the kitten :( I agree. Our vet never suggests euthanasia, but does tell me the possible outcome with a FelV pos. cat. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Absolutely agree! Any vets whose first word when seeing felk positive cat is to KILL should not even be a veterinarian - must be an idiot, don't know anything about the virus. Hideyo Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:40:21 -0400 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten I On 06-22, Edna Taylor wrote: Good for you Katy and I don't trust any vet whose first option is kill the kitten :( I agree. Our vet never suggests euthanasia, but does tell me the possible outcome with a FelV pos. cat. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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a 2nd opinion wouldn't be a bad thing. ALL living creatures die, regardless of any specific viral status. 1. Did they use the 3-way [felv fiv heartworm] elisa test? This test has a history of large numbers of false positives. 2. is Sasha vaccinated for FeLV? what's her approx age? If she's an adult, she's safer than another kitten, and if she's also vaccinated, I wouldn't worry at all. 3. is the lethargy caused by anemia? 4. if so, what kind of anemia? there's regenerative, which has frequently been treated with success and non-regenerative, which is much more serious and harder to treat. 5. what other work was done? was there blood work? get copies of the results. if the 3-way test is the only thing that was done, get proper blood work done. I searched www.catvets.com for members in Dallas and there's only one entry, but she's gotta be a better choice: 1 Doctors Found. Dr. Raina Weldon Cat Hospital of Dallas 9780 LBJ Freeway Suite 105 Dallas, TX 75243 United States Phone: (214) 348-2463 Website: www.CatHospitalOfDallas.com Practice Type: Feline Only Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous From: ckess...@cox.net ckess...@cox.net To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 3:40:35 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been little, but playful and happy until last week. They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - die. Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very healthy. The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep. She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
Hi Cathy, I feel your pain - when my Missy was diagnosed with severe congenital heart disease, I thought I would die. But they all die of something, unfortunately, and I think the special health kitties are the most special in other ways. We have a wonderful lady on this list who volunteers in an FELV sanctuary. Maybe she can give you some advice. I would definitely change vets - we adopted out a double pos (FIV+ and FELV+) to a lady in Waco about 2 years ago and she is going strong. I would get a confirmatory IFA test. I would get my other cat tested and vaccinated. You may want to separate them. Some do and some don't. I would not put her to sleep because she may be carrying a virus that may make her sick someday. Even the feral cat people are getting away from PTS based on the result of a test. Love and light, Kelley On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:40 PM, ckess...@cox.net wrote: I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been little, but playful and happy until last week. They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - die. Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very healthy. The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep. She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I agree, I would get a different vet and not put my kitty to sleep on the off chance that she might get sick and die earlier than we thought she would. Animals, like people live for different lengths of time. I had a FeLuk positive kitty that lived to be 16 years old but had a FeLuk negative kitty that died of a stroke when he was 12. I say let her live, enjoy her and don't end her life before her time. Edna From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:00:05 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten Hi Cathy, I feel your pain - when my Missy was diagnosed with severe congenital heart disease, I thought I would die. But they all die of something, unfortunately, and I think the special health kitties are the most special in other ways. We have a wonderful lady on this list who volunteers in an FELV sanctuary. Maybe she can give you some advice. I would definitely change vets - we adopted out a double pos (FIV+ and FELV+) to a lady in Waco about 2 years ago and she is going strong. I would get a confirmatory IFA test. I would get my other cat tested and vaccinated. You may want to separate them. Some do and some don't. I would not put her to sleep because she may be carrying a virus that may make her sick someday. Even the feral cat people are getting away from PTS based on the result of a test. Love and light, Kelley On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:40 PM, ckess...@cox.net wrote: I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been little, but playful and happy until last week. They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - die. Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very healthy. The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep. She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
They told me to do the same with Tigger!!! All the other cats here got vaccinated, and Tigger is a happy HEALTHY FeLV+ 4 1/2 years old now!!! FeLV cats CAN live good lives!!! Try to get Cali feeling better, and Vaccinate Sasha!!! Tigger has been around my other cats his whole life. They all test NEGATIVE ( Except for Tigger!!!) From: ckess...@cox.net ckess...@cox.net To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 4:40:35 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been little, but playful and happy until last week. They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - die. Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very healthy. The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep. She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
Thanks Kelley, When we adopted Sasha, she had been tested and vaccinated when we adopted her. We had her tested again yesterday and she was still negative. I live in a two bedroom apartment, so it's really hard to keep them separated unless we adopt out Sasha. I don't really want to do that either. I have seen a post for a vet in Dallas at Lakewood Veterinary Hospital that seems to work with people with kittens who are FELV+. I guess I will look into him. Blood transfusions are so expensive though. There is so much to do and it seems like so little time. I appreciate your words of encouragement. Cathy Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: = Hi Cathy, I feel your pain - when my Missy was diagnosed with severe congenital heart disease, I thought I would die. But they all die of something, unfortunately, and I think the special health kitties are the most special in other ways. We have a wonderful lady on this list who volunteers in an FELV sanctuary. Maybe she can give you some advice. I would definitely change vets - we adopted out a double pos (FIV+ and FELV+) to a lady in Waco about 2 years ago and she is going strong. I would get a confirmatory IFA test. I would get my other cat tested and vaccinated. You may want to separate them. Some do and some don't. I would not put her to sleep because she may be carrying a virus that may make her sick someday. Even the feral cat people are getting away from PTS based on the result of a test. Love and light, Kelley On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:40 PM, ckess...@cox.net wrote: I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been little, but playful and happy until last week. They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - die. Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very healthy. The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep. She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
That is ridiculous - the healthy cat has already been exposed to the sick cat - to immediately killing the sick one is radical and, I would add, stupid and ignorant of the vet to even suggest! Which test was used, do you know? I am sure that you will get great advice from this group - I am not that knowledgeable about this because I had two FeLV+ cats, and after testing them after 1 1/2 yrs/3 yrs respectively, using the IFA tests - they are both negative! One of our boys was originally given the ELISA, it was positive. His friend, whom we adopted to keep him company, had both the ELISA and IFA - both were positive! I have been very lucky that both are negative - it could have been only one or the other!! I would definitely contact PetCo and advise them of this; it is totally unethical to adopt out a cat that may be FeLV+ or FIV+- if there was a mother cat, she should have been tested. Depending on the kitten's age at the time of adoption, if old enough, she should also have been tested! Any cat adopted from my group must be FIV/FeLV negative! I'm sure you will hear more from others! Best of luck and hang in there - I am so sorry for you and your dilemma! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ckess...@cox.net Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 4:41 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been little, but playful and happy until last week. They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - die. Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very healthy. The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep. She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
Cathy - I forgot to mention that good veterinarians also believe in vitamin supplements. Our vet always gives any of our sick cats injectable vitamin supplements to help them get better, Vitamin B12, C etc. - ask your vet or future vet - it helps a lot! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ckess...@cox.net Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Kelley Saveika Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten Thanks Kelley, When we adopted Sasha, she had been tested and vaccinated when we adopted her. We had her tested again yesterday and she was still negative. I live in a two bedroom apartment, so it's really hard to keep them separated unless we adopt out Sasha. I don't really want to do that either. I have seen a post for a vet in Dallas at Lakewood Veterinary Hospital that seems to work with people with kittens who are FELV+. I guess I will look into him. Blood transfusions are so expensive though. There is so much to do and it seems like so little time. I appreciate your words of encouragement. Cathy Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: = Hi Cathy, I feel your pain - when my Missy was diagnosed with severe congenital heart disease, I thought I would die. But they all die of something, unfortunately, and I think the special health kitties are the most special in other ways. We have a wonderful lady on this list who volunteers in an FELV sanctuary. Maybe she can give you some advice. I would definitely change vets - we adopted out a double pos (FIV+ and FELV+) to a lady in Waco about 2 years ago and she is going strong. I would get a confirmatory IFA test. I would get my other cat tested and vaccinated. You may want to separate them. Some do and some don't. I would not put her to sleep because she may be carrying a virus that may make her sick someday. Even the feral cat people are getting away from PTS based on the result of a test. Love and light, Kelley On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:40 PM, ckess...@cox.net wrote: I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been little, but playful and happy until last week. They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - die. Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very healthy. The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep. She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
at this point, there is no purpose or advantage to separating Cali and Sasha - if Sasha was vaccinated for FeLV prior to you adopting her, then she's fine. Please talk to the vet at the clinic I found on www.catvets.com. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous From: ckess...@cox.net ckess...@cox.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 4:13:51 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten Thanks Kelley, When we adopted Sasha, she had been tested and vaccinated when we adopted her. We had her tested again yesterday and she was still negative. I live in a two bedroom apartment, so it's really hard to keep them separated unless we adopt out Sasha. I don't really want to do that either. I have seen a post for a vet in Dallas at Lakewood Veterinary Hospital that seems to work with people with kittens who are FELV+. I guess I will look into him. Blood transfusions are so expensive though. There is so much to do and it seems like so little time. I appreciate your words of encouragement. Cathy Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: = Hi Cathy, I feel your pain - when my Missy was diagnosed with severe congenital heart disease, I thought I would die. But they all die of something, unfortunately, and I think the special health kitties are the most special in other ways. We have a wonderful lady on this list who volunteers in an FELV sanctuary. Maybe she can give you some advice. I would definitely change vets - we adopted out a double pos (FIV+ and FELV+) to a lady in Waco about 2 years ago and she is going strong. I would get a confirmatory IFA test. I would get my other cat tested and vaccinated. You may want to separate them. Some do and some don't. I would not put her to sleep because she may be carrying a virus that may make her sick someday. Even the feral cat people are getting away from PTS based on the result of a test. Love and light, Kelley On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:40 PM, ckess...@cox.net wrote: I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been little, but playful and happy until last week. They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - die. Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very healthy. The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep. She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
Cathy I came to this site in the same manner. My kitten was 9 months when he died and my vet said to put my others down immediately. I was shocked! My Russian Blue had become positive despite being vaccinated. I refused. Basil was with me 2 more years very happy and healthy. He then began to show signs of illness. In the end he lived 3 years after the vet wanted to kill him. What I did was come home, found this site, and began to learn treatment plans. I then took everything to the vet--I changed his opinion. Although Basil did contract Feline Leukemia, my other cat Rumpleteaser never did. She didn't get contract the disease even from Basil and I mixed them. There are others here that will offer wonderful advice and guide you, I say for the sake of your heart listen and make your own decision. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ckess...@cox.net Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:41 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been little, but playful and happy until last week. They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - die. Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very healthy. The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep. She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
I have to agree - we give all of our kitties a supplement called kittievite - it's a malt paste with a good daily multivitamin included... They never want to just eat the stuff, so we smear a little on their haunches, and they go about cleaning themselves and getting their vitamins. Works like a charm and the effects are almost immediately noticeable in their luxuriously shiny coats! On the subject of vets in the Dallas area, we see Dr. Benjamin Wright at Lakewood Vet Clinic - he's great with felv cats and is always open to trying new things. He saved our Dexter last year, so I have nothing but awesome things to say about him. His office can be reached at 214.826.4800. Dr wright is ordering the T-cell treatment for Dexter - hoping to have it thursday. Ben On Jun 21, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Cathy - I forgot to mention that good veterinarians also believe in vitamin supplements. Our vet always gives any of our sick cats injectable vitamin supplements to help them get better, Vitamin B12, C etc. - ask your vet or future vet - it helps a lot! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ckess...@cox.net Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Kelley Saveika Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten Thanks Kelley, When we adopted Sasha, she had been tested and vaccinated when we adopted her. We had her tested again yesterday and she was still negative. I live in a two bedroom apartment, so it's really hard to keep them separated unless we adopt out Sasha. I don't really want to do that either. I have seen a post for a vet in Dallas at Lakewood Veterinary Hospital that seems to work with people with kittens who are FELV+. I guess I will look into him. Blood transfusions are so expensive though. There is so much to do and it seems like so little time. I appreciate your words of encouragement. Cathy Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: = Hi Cathy, I feel your pain - when my Missy was diagnosed with severe congenital heart disease, I thought I would die. But they all die of something, unfortunately, and I think the special health kitties are the most special in other ways. We have a wonderful lady on this list who volunteers in an FELV sanctuary. Maybe she can give you some advice. I would definitely change vets - we adopted out a double pos (FIV+ and FELV+) to a lady in Waco about 2 years ago and she is going strong. I would get a confirmatory IFA test. I would get my other cat tested and vaccinated. You may want to separate them. Some do and some don't. I would not put her to sleep because she may be carrying a virus that may make her sick someday. Even the feral cat people are getting away from PTS based on the result of a test. Love and light, Kelley On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:40 PM, ckess...@cox.net wrote: I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been little, but playful and happy until last week. They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - die. Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very healthy. The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep. She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
Hi Kathy! I live in north Dallas area. I fostered a 3 mos old kitten, then adopted it later after I had him neutered. I got him from the local Humane Society. He was fine one day and was gone the next. He was very, very sick but his FeLV snap test (ELISA) came back a faint positive. My other kitty did not get it. I don't know if it was because it was a faint positive or my cat cleared the virus since he was healthy. My heart goes out to you. This brings back so many memories. This is frustrating to me because I never heard of this disease. What frustrates me the most is Petco (they sometimes get there cats from shelters as well), HS's, and other shelters know of this disease. They should warn people that adopt their animals knowing that they will be brought home and possibly exposing their other cat(s) to this disease. If I had known about the risks, I would have definitely vaccinated my other cat so I would not have had so much worry of him contracting this horrible disease! I lost my adopted HS kitty 3 mos ago. I was told he was too far gone to treat him. His immune system had been compromised by coccidia. He was tested for FeLV in Nov. 2010 when he was neutered. It was negative. I'd never had him anywhere else so I'm guessing he could have always had it and it did not show, or he contracted it when he was neutered. I will never know the answer. I'm still sick over it and am sad. I'm glad you found this site. I wished I had. I bet we still could have treated my kitten and prolonged his life. I will never know the answer to that. I'm so glad Cali has you!! Sending good thoughts/vibes your way! Keep us posted. There are several people on this thread that have had FeLV positive kitties live long, happy lives. Cali still has the chance of clearing the virus from her system. Keep the fight, Cali!! Hang in there Cathy!! Lynda - Original Message - From: ckess...@cox.net To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:40 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been little, but playful and happy until last week. They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - die. Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very healthy. The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep. She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
Cathy, you have already gotten some good advise. I've rescued several FeLV kittens and treasured the time I had with them. They enjoyed 1 to 4+ years of being pampered and loved. I mixed my positives and negatives but my negatives were all adult cats and current on their FeLV vaccine. You can do so much to make whatever time Cali has a joy to both of you. I would get Sasha tested and vaccinated if she hasn't been already. I am disturbed that Petco is adopting out kittens that have not been tested for FeLV or FIV. I also do TNR and rescue kittens. I test all the rescued kittens before offering them for adoption. Give Cali a hug from me. Sharyl From: ckess...@cox.net ckess...@cox.net To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 4:40 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been little, but playful and happy until last week. They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - die. Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very healthy. The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep. She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
