Re: re Foxy/ bad news

[Belinda Sauro]

Well this is the way I look at it, she will die without something 
being done, and as I said hemobatonella is VERY hard to diagnose, I know 
of several cats on the anemia list that were tested 4 or 5 times coming 
up negative but thankfully their mom insisted they get doxycycline, 
guess what they got better, they tested negative but obviously had it.  
That is the very least I would do, most vets know how hard it is to test 
for hemo and with an FeLV+ would put them on doxy to be safe rather than 
sorry.  It won't hurt her if she doesn't have it but may well save her 
life if she does.  Thats all I'm saying about that.


When Bailey died, I had decided to finally allowed my vet to do surgery 
to find out what was going on, he was in very bad shape, temp of 98, 
blood not clotting, he got a transfusion to get his blood to clot, he 
survived the transfusion, his blood was clotting without that they 
couldn't do the surgery.  For him it was too late his body was shutting 
down, his temp continued to go down and my vet told me, she could go in 
quickly and see if anything jumped out at her but she told me he was 
leaving us ... I brought him home and he died an hour later.  She had 
wanted to do exploratory surgery days, even weeks earlier while he was 
still in decent shape but I thought he still seems OK so I didn't want 
to upset the apple cart.  So many things I did and didn't do that I see 
now in hindsight contributed to his death.


When I lost my Frankie (FeLV+) in 1995, his HCT was at 6%, my vet was 
going to do a transfusion on him if I wanted to, she said nothing about 
him not surviving it, way back then I was very ignorant and decided to 
take him home and think about it overnight, he died at 11PM that night, 
he had come back from several very bad spots, in hindsight I wish I had 
gotten the transfusion, I know he would have bounced back again.


This is what I would do, at the very least put her on doxy and 
prednisolone and I stand by what I said, this vet does not have a clue 
about treating a cat in crisis with FeLV.  Please don't take this as 
anything against you, it's your clueless vet that has me screaming, too 
many positives lose their lives because the vet seeing them is so 
unknowledgable about FeLV.


She *may not* survive the transfusion, especially done by this place but 
she will die without something being done, that is a fact!  I'll take a 
*may not* over a *for sure* any day.  Again this is not anything against 
you, I know you are doing what you think is best, I just wish you had a 
better vet ...


Oh- the vet did call another vet in Tampa and they conquered regarding 
Foxys condition and that she probably wouldnt survive the transfusion 
and if she did it would only give her a couple of weeks at the most.


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Re: re Foxy/ bad news

[Kathy Dillard]

Foxy is on day four. Monday the vet told us she would probably only last 24- 48 
hours. We did call the vet back and they ordered dexamethazone for her. We also 
got oxygen for her to keep her comfortable. The vet said that her blood was not 
reproducing red blood cells at all . They did test for the hemobartinello and 
it was negative. Foxy did eat a little bit of food mixed with vitamins (from a 
syringe)  and we have been giving her water from a syringe.
When they say that there is no way for the red blood cells to reproduce at this 
pint if they are not making any new blood cells- is this true. Foxy is such a 
little fighter and I want to do what I can for her but I do not want her  to 
suffer. She is very weak now and has difficulty walking. We decided to not pts 
but let her be home in her own environment she she was doing okay. I hope we 
made the right decision. I am sure we will be up throught the night. I looked 
through the archives and got some helpful  tips on keeping her comfortable.. If 
anyone has any other thoughts please respond. Oh- the vet did call another vet 
in Tampa and they conquered regarding Foxys condition and that she probably 
wouldnt survive the transfusion and if she did it would only give her a couple 
of weeks at the most.Kathy
Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Sally,
If it is al all possible find another vet who is more knowledgable in 
treating FeLV this vet is pretty clueless. An HCT of 10 is when a 
transfusion would be seriously considered not ruled out, that alone 
tells me this vet doesn't have the knowledge to help you.

Bailey started with an HCT of 20% at which point we ordered the epogen, 
by the time I got it his HCT had gone down to 18%, after two weeks of 
being on the epogen it was at 15%, it often takes epogen 3 weeks or even 
longer to kick in. By week 3 his HCT was back up to 18% and went up 
from there. When he passed of pancreatic cancer his HCT was a very 
healthy 33%, so he never became anemic after that. The prednisolone may 
help but in order to build new red cells she needs vitb, iron and folic 
acid, all are needed to build new red cells. Nutrived ahs all 3 and is 
fairly cheap, you can order it here:

http://www.calvetsupply.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=33

I order it for Fred my CRF furkid. I have not found it cheaper anywhere 
else.

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Re: re Foxy/ bad news

[Sally Davis]

I think you meant this for Kathy. Junior lived 1.5 years his HCT after the
immunoregulin was 30.

Sally

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Sally,
>  If it is al all possible find another vet who is more knowledgable in
> treating FeLV this vet is pretty clueless.  An HCT of 10 is when a
> transfusion would be seriously considered not ruled out, that alone tells me
> this vet doesn't have the knowledge to help you.
>
> Bailey started with an HCT of 20% at which point we ordered the epogen, by
> the time I got it his HCT had gone down to 18%, after two weeks of being on
> the epogen it was at 15%, it often takes epogen 3 weeks or even longer to
> kick in.  By week 3 his HCT was back up to 18% and went up from there.  When
> he passed of pancreatic cancer his HCT was a very healthy 33%, so he never
> became anemic after that.  The prednisolone may help but in order to build
> new red cells she needs vitb, iron and folic acid, all are needed to build
> new red cells.  Nutrived ahs all 3 and is fairly cheap, you can order it
> here:
>
> http://www.calvetsupply.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=33
>
> I order it for Fred my CRF furkid.  I have not found it cheaper anywhere
> else.
>
> How is the baby today?
>
>
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Re: re Foxy/ bad news

[Belinda Sauro]

   Sally,
  If it is al all possible find another vet who is more knowledgable in 
treating FeLV this vet is pretty clueless.  An HCT of 10 is when a 
transfusion would be seriously considered not ruled out, that alone 
tells me this vet doesn't have the knowledge to help you.


Bailey started with an HCT of 20% at which point we ordered the epogen, 
by the time I got it his HCT had gone down to 18%, after two weeks of 
being on the epogen it was at 15%, it often takes epogen 3 weeks or even 
longer to kick in.  By week 3 his HCT was back up to 18% and went up 
from there.  When he passed of pancreatic cancer his HCT was a very 
healthy 33%, so he never became anemic after that.  The prednisolone may 
help but in order to build new red cells she needs vitb, iron and folic 
acid, all are needed to build new red cells.  Nutrived ahs all 3 and is 
fairly cheap, you can order it here:


http://www.calvetsupply.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=33

I order it for Fred my CRF furkid.  I have not found it cheaper anywhere 
else.


How is the baby today?

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Re: re Foxy/ bad news

[Belinda Sauro]

  I'm not sure what kind of vet you are seeing but 10 is when a 
transfusin is very much considered, it usually isn't done when the HCT 
is higher than that.



10- even too low for a transfusion.


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Re: re Foxy/ bad news

[laurieskatz]

Doxycycline (in case he had hemobartonella), appetite stimulant and pain meds 
are what we gave our rescue kitten who was severely anemic and in kidney 
failure.
He was also hospitalized for 2 of his first 3 weeks with us so they could IV 
feed him. We could not get him to eatfinally he rallied and is 100% now.
He is not FeLV+.
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jane Lyons 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 6:50 PM
  Subject: Re: re Foxy/ bad news


  Since Foxy has been healthy to this point, maybe this event is an anomaly and 
that with the correct
  care she will be able to rebound. Is the vet that you are using up on FeLV?
  As Belinda suggests, there may be a way to reverse her anemia. There are 
people on the list who may be able to
  give you advise. I hope someone who has dealt with this will see your post 
and be able to help you.


  I know how stressful the unknowns of this disease are.  It is awful to be 
told she has a few days to live
  and then discover that she has rebounded. It is so confusing and such an 
emotional roller coaster.


  I would relay Belinda's experience to your vet and get as much information as 
you can to post to this group.
  Maybe someone with more experience with anemia will see your post.


  I hope that there is someway to help Foxy get through this crisis. 
  I'm sending you every good wish.


  Jane


















  On Apr 1, 2008, at 7:54 PM, Kathy Dillard wrote:


First of all- thank-you for your response. When Foxy went to the vet 
yesterday they gave her steroid shot, and antibiotic (shot) and fluid under the 
skin (shot) as she was dehydrated. They did a blood test and said her white 
count was almost nonwxisent and her red count was at 10- even too low for a 
transfusion. So we took her home and cried- and prepared ourselves for the 
worst. Today Foxy is doing better ( which is probably due to the shots) but she 
is eating and grooming herself and she doesnt have a fever. My husband and I 
dont understand and feel confused because Foxy is not breathing heavy which you 
would think would be happening because of lack of red blood cells and and lack 
of oxygen. Foxy has been very healthy up to this point so I think she has a 
strong constitution to draw from-but wonder if her blood count is so low now 
that it is too late. We did call the vet back today to let them know that she 
was actually looking better and if there was anything else we could do and they 
had us pick up a prescription of prednisone.  i have raised alot of cats but 
have never had one with feline leukemia and feel very overwhelmed but want to 
do everything possible for  Foxy and to make sure she is comfortable and not 
suffering. I hope this information helps clarify her condition and if you have 
anymore information or thoughts I would greatly appreciate it. I will 
definitley call the vet tomorrow with more questions and information.

Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  This may be too late already but what does your vet say is causing 
  the anemia If he said it is the FeLV causing it RUN to another 
  vet Is she getting doxycycline in case she has hemobartonella, 
  something positives are prone to get and VERY hard to test for??? 
  Bailey was anemic at one point and it was because the virus had activate 
  in his bone marrow and was preventing the making of new red blood cells, 
  he got high doses of prednisolone and epogen and his anemia was reversed.

  Send her numbers to the list. How low is low??

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Re: re Foxy/ bad news

[Jane Lyons]

Since Foxy has been healthy to this point, maybe this event is an  
anomaly and that with the correct
care she will be able to rebound. Is the vet that you are using up on  
FeLV?
As Belinda suggests, there may be a way to reverse her anemia. There  
are people on the list who may be able to
give you advise. I hope someone who has dealt with this will see your  
post and be able to help you.


I know how stressful the unknowns of this disease are.  It is awful  
to be told she has a few days to live
and then discover that she has rebounded. It is so confusing and such  
an emotional roller coaster.


I would relay Belinda's experience to your vet and get as much  
information as you can to post to this group.

Maybe someone with more experience with anemia will see your post.

I hope that there is someway to help Foxy get through this crisis.
I'm sending you every good wish.

Jane









On Apr 1, 2008, at 7:54 PM, Kathy Dillard wrote:

First of all- thank-you for your response. When Foxy went to the  
vet yesterday they gave her steroid shot, and antibiotic (shot) and  
fluid under the skin (shot) as she was dehydrated. They did a blood  
test and said her white count was almost nonwxisent and her red  
count was at 10- even too low for a transfusion. So we took her  
home and cried- and prepared ourselves for the worst. Today Foxy is  
doing better ( which is probably due to the shots) but she is  
eating and grooming herself and she doesnt have a fever. My husband  
and I dont understand and feel confused because Foxy is not  
breathing heavy which you would think would be happening because of  
lack of red blood cells and and lack of oxygen. Foxy has been very  
healthy up to this point so I think she has a strong constitution  
to draw from-but wonder if her blood count is so low now that it is  
too late. We did call the vet back today to let them know that she  
was actually looking better and if there was anything else we could  
do and they had us pick up a prescription of prednisone.  i have  
raised alot of cats but have never had one with feline leukemia and  
feel very overwhelmed but want to do everything possible for  Foxy  
and to make sure she is comfortable and not suffering. I hope this  
information helps clarify her condition and if you have anymore  
information or thoughts I would greatly appreciate it. I will  
definitley call the vet tomorrow with more questions and information.


Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This may be too late already but what does your vet say is causing
the anemia If he said it is the FeLV causing it RUN to another
vet Is she getting doxycycline in case she has hemobartonella,
something positives are prone to get and VERY hard to test for???
Bailey was anemic at one point and it was because the virus had  
activate
in his bone marrow and was preventing the making of new red blood  
cells,
he got high doses of prednisolone and epogen and his anemia was  
reversed.


Send her numbers to the list. How low is low??

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Re: re Foxy/ bad news

[Sally Davis]

HI Kathy

Hopefully someone here can give you an answer. Junior was anemic when he
first got sick and was treated for uncomfirmed hemobatenella(sp). He got
over the anemia his HCT was 23. Not as bad as Foxy. He lated tested positive
for FELV. I too used Pet Tinic. He also went through the immunoregulin
protocol 1 on the felineleukemia home page. He lived another 1.5 years. I
was so lucky to have him. Maybe it is time for a new vet.

Sally

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Kathy Dillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> First of all- thank-you for your response. When Foxy went to the vet
> yesterday they gave her steroid shot, and antibiotic (shot) and fluid under
> the skin (shot) as she was dehydrated. They did a blood test and said her
> white count was almost nonwxisent and her red count was at 10- even too low
> for a transfusion. So we took her home and cried- and prepared ourselves for
> the worst. Today Foxy is doing better ( which is probably due to the shots)
> but she is eating and grooming herself and she doesnt have a fever. My
> husband and I dont understand and feel confused because Foxy is not
> breathing heavy which you would think would be happening because of lack of
> red blood cells and and lack of oxygen. Foxy has been very healthy up to
> this point so I think she has a strong constitution to draw from-but wonder
> if her blood count is so low now that it is too late. We did call the vet
> back today to let them know that she was actually looking better and if
> there was anything else we could do and they had us pick up a prescription
> of prednisone.  i have raised alot of cats but have never had one with
> feline leukemia and feel very overwhelmed but want to do everything
> possible for  Foxy and to make sure she is comfortable and not suffering. I
> hope this information helps clarify her condition and if you have anymore
> information or thoughts I would greatly appreciate it. I will definitley
> call the vet tomorrow with more questions and information.
>
>
> *Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> This may be too late already but what does your vet say is causing
> the anemia If he said it is the FeLV causing it RUN to another
> vet Is she getting doxycycline in case she has hemobartonella,
> something positives are prone to get and VERY hard to test for???
> Bailey was anemic at one point and it was because the virus had activate
> in his bone marrow and was preventing the making of new red blood cells,
> he got high doses of prednisolone and epogen and his anemia was reversed.
>
> Send her numbers to the list. How low is low??
>
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Re: re Foxy/ bad news

[Gloria Lane]

I'm so sorry that you and Foxy are having to go thru this difficult  
time.  Wondering if the vet said anything else about her condition, or  
did an xray or anything?  The steroid, and fluids apparently helped  
her feel much better, maybe the abx in case there was infection.   
Maybe since she's eating it will help her red count.  I usually try to  
do some liquid vitamins, too, like Pet Tinic or something.


Sending lots of good vibes,

Gloria



On Apr 1, 2008, at 6:54 PM, Kathy Dillard wrote:

First of all- thank-you for your response. When Foxy went to the vet  
yesterday they gave her steroid shot, and antibiotic (shot) and  
fluid under the skin (shot) as she was dehydrated. They did a blood  
test and said her white count was almost nonwxisent and her red  
count was at 10- even too low for a transfusion. So we took her home  
and cried- and prepared ourselves for the worst. Today Foxy is doing  
better ( which is probably due to the shots) but she is eating and  
grooming herself and she doesnt have a fever. My husband and I dont  
understand and feel confused because Foxy is not breathing heavy  
which you would think would be happening because of lack of red  
blood cells and and lack of oxygen. Foxy has been very healthy up to  
this point so I think she has a strong constitution to draw from-but  
wonder if her blood count is so low now that it is too late. We did  
call the vet back today to let them know that she was actually  
looking better and if there was anything else we could do and they  
had us pick up a prescription of prednisone.  i have raised alot of  
cats but have never had one with feline leukemia and feel very  
overwhelmed but want to do everything possible for  Foxy and to make  
sure she is comfortable and not suffering. I hope this information  
helps clarify her condition and if you have anymore information or  
thoughts I would greatly appreciate it. I will definitley call the  
vet tomorrow with more questions and information.


Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This may be too late already but what does your vet say is causing
the anemia If he said it is the FeLV causing it RUN to another
vet Is she getting doxycycline in case she has hemobartonella,
something positives are prone to get and VERY hard to test for???
Bailey was anemic at one point and it was because the virus had  
activate
in his bone marrow and was preventing the making of new red blood  
cells,
he got high doses of prednisolone and epogen and his anemia was  
reversed.


Send her numbers to the list. How low is low??

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Re: re Foxy/ bad news

[Kathy Dillard]

First of all- thank-you for your response. When Foxy went to the vet yesterday 
they gave her steroid shot, and antibiotic (shot) and fluid under the skin 
(shot) as she was dehydrated. They did a blood test and said her white count 
was almost nonwxisent and her red count was at 10- even too low for a 
transfusion. So we took her home and cried- and prepared ourselves for the 
worst. Today Foxy is doing better ( which is probably due to the shots) but she 
is eating and grooming herself and she doesnt have a fever. My husband and I 
dont understand and feel confused because Foxy is not breathing heavy which you 
would think would be happening because of lack of red blood cells and and lack 
of oxygen. Foxy has been very healthy up to this point so I think she has a 
strong constitution to draw from-but wonder if her blood count is so low now 
that it is too late. We did call the vet back today to let them know that she 
was actually looking better and if there was anything else we
 could do and they had us pick up a prescription of prednisone.  i have raised 
alot of cats but have never had one with feline leukemia and feel very 
overwhelmed but want to do everything possible for  Foxy and to make sure she 
is comfortable and not suffering. I hope this information helps clarify her 
condition and if you have anymore information or thoughts I would greatly 
appreciate it. I will definitley call the vet tomorrow with more questions and 
information.

Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  This may be too late already but what 
does your vet say is causing 
the anemia If he said it is the FeLV causing it RUN to another 
vet Is she getting doxycycline in case she has hemobartonella, 
something positives are prone to get and VERY hard to test for??? 
Bailey was anemic at one point and it was because the virus had activate 
in his bone marrow and was preventing the making of new red blood cells, 
he got high doses of prednisolone and epogen and his anemia was reversed.

Send her numbers to the list. How low is low??

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Re: re Foxy/ bad news

[Gloria Lane]

Thanks, Belinda, appreciate knowing that - I've had FELV cats died  
with anemia, although usually mediastinal lymphoma - and I'll remember  
about the epogen if I need to next time.


Gloria


On Apr 1, 2008, at 7:28 AM, Belinda Sauro wrote:
   This may be too late already but what does your vet say is  
causing the anemia  If he said it is the FeLV causing it RUN to  
another vet   Is she getting doxycycline in case she has  
hemobartonella, something positives are prone to get and VERY hard  
to test for???   Bailey was anemic at one point and it was because  
the virus had activate in his bone marrow and was preventing the  
making of new red blood cells, he got high doses of prednisolone and  
epogen and his anemia was reversed.


Send her numbers to the list.  How low is low??

--

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Re: re Foxy/ bad news

[Belinda Sauro]

This may be too late already but what does your vet say is causing 
the anemia  If he said it is the FeLV causing it RUN to another 
vet   Is she getting doxycycline in case she has hemobartonella, 
something positives are prone to get and VERY hard to test for???   
Bailey was anemic at one point and it was because the virus had activate 
in his bone marrow and was preventing the making of new red blood cells, 
he got high doses of prednisolone and epogen and his anemia was reversed.


Send her numbers to the list.  How low is low??

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Re: re Foxy/ bad news

[Sally Davis]

Hi Kathy

It is so hard when it gets to this point. This is exactly where I was with
Junior two weeks ago. His breathing was very labored. We knew he had a heart
mumur. He lived a little over a year and a half of his diagnosis. I could
tell he was miserable even at the vets office after she had given a
sedative. It was not working because his heart was not pumping the blood. I
called her back into the room . It was still difficult. I knew I did the
right thing. I even have oxygen at home for my boyfriend who has COPD. For
me there was no point in prolonging his misery. Only you know if your cat is
suffering. Remember cats are good at hiding there symptoms.

Best of luck for you and your kitten. You have ben a good mommy. My prayers
are with you.

Sally

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Kathy Dillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We took our kitten  Foxy to the vet and she only has about 24-48 hours to
> live.The leukemia has taken over and her blood count is very very low. We
> are heart sick but want to do what is best for her and I dont want to
> prolong her suffering. The vet said we have done a good job keeping her
> healthy. They gave her a water shot for deydration and a perscription for
> oxygen. I have never had any experience with this and would like to know
> other members thoughts on this. Should we get the oxygen for her? They said
> she would probably not survive a blood transfusion. Any advice would be
> appreciated.
>
> *kathy*
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Re: re Foxy/ bad news

[Lynne]

Kathy, I'm so very sorry for you.  Knowing what I know now, rather than let her 
suffer or have to struggle to breathe, I would take the most humane approach 
and have the vet give her a sedative via catheter and euthanize.  I'm sorry to 
sound hopeless, but we know that at this stage hope just doesn't work.  If they 
have given her only 24 to 48 hours and her blood count is very low, there is 
really nothing that can reverse this.  I didn't make it to the transfusion 
either with our little guy.  He was dehydrated and I was finally made to 
realize that his time had come to go.  

I really am so so sorry for what you are going through.  It's just so painful.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kathy Dillard 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:38 PM
  Subject: re Foxy/ bad news


  We took our kitten  Foxy to the vet and she only has about 24-48 hours to 
live.The leukemia has taken over and her blood count is very very low. We are 
heart sick but want to do what is best for her and I dont want to prolong her 
suffering. The vet said we have done a good job keeping her healthy. They gave 
her a water shot for deydration and a perscription for oxygen. I have never had 
any experience with this and would like to know other members thoughts on this. 
Should we get the oxygen for her? They said she would probably not survive a 
blood transfusion. Any advice would be appreciated.


  kathy


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Re: re Foxy/ bad news

[Gloria B. Lane]

I don'tknow, I would think that oxygen would be a very kind thing to 
provide, if they think she needs it.  I used to have a cat carrier 
that was converted into an "oxygen carrier", but have since passed it 
onto someone else.  I got it for my Calawalla Banana who died before 
I could get the oxygen.


I'm so sorry to hear about your sweet Foxy.  It's so hard. May she 
have a gentle, loving trip to the bridge.


Gloria




At 01:38 PM 3/31/2008, Kathy Dillard wrote:
We took our kitten  Foxy to the vet and she only has about 24-48 
hours to live.The leukemia has taken over and her blood count is 
very very low. We are heart sick but want to do what is best for her 
and I dont want to prolong her suffering. The vet said we have done 
a good job keeping her healthy. They gave her a water shot for 
deydration and a perscription for oxygen. I have never had any 
experience with this and would like to know other members thoughts 
on this. Should we get the oxygen for her? They said she would 
probably not survive a blood transfusion. Any advice would be appreciated.


kathy
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