Re: [Finale] missing 'Create Tempo Plug-In'

2008-11-16 Thread Florence + Michael
Allen, this needs to be made clear in the documentation. If you look at the page on tempo marking, you'll see it still says: Note that you can easily generate full-featured metronome marking expressions with the Create Tempo Marking plug-in. See Create Tempo Marking Plug-in. This links

Re: [Finale] missing 'Create Tempo Plug-In'

2008-11-16 Thread Eric Dannewitz
So rather than modify the plugin to use the new expressions, it gets deleted. So instead of a simple highlight the measure and go to the plugin and type in some simple things, it is now buried in the expression designer, a good 3+ clicks more than before? The old philosophy of MakeMusic would

Re: [Finale] missing 'Create Tempo Plug-In'

2008-11-16 Thread Florence + Michael
I would call it buried in the expression designer. Double-click in the score to see the list of expressions. If the tempo marking you want is already there, just use it. If it isn't already there, one click takes you to the Expression Designer where you can create the tempo marking. If

Re: [Finale] O.T. Score layout for late 18th century symphonies (winds) Cannabich

2008-11-16 Thread Florence + Michael
Do you have an exact date for the parts? I'm looking at my copy of Daniel Koury's Orchestral performance Prcatices in the Nineteenth Century, where he gives many lists of the strengths of different orchestras. For example, in Munich in 1803, the Churbayerishe Kapelle, led by Cannabich,

Re: [Finale] O.T. Iconography in Music History

2008-11-16 Thread dhbailey
John Howell wrote: At 7:02 AM -0800 11/15/08, Richard Yates wrote: Yes, exponential. http://www.math.ucdavis.edu/~kouba/Math21BThomasDIRECTORY/Exponential.pdf Pipes arranged in a decreasing series of half tone steps do not increase in length by a constant amount (which would make the

Re: [Finale] missing 'Create Tempo Plug-In'

2008-11-16 Thread dhbailey
But Eric's main point was -- why not rewrite the plug-in AND add the new capability to the expressions? As Eric says, it has long been a hallmark of Finale to be able to do things in multiple ways, so that each user could find the method which works best for him/her. I'm not sure I follow

Re: [Finale] missing 'Create Tempo Plug-In'

2008-11-16 Thread David Froom
One of the great improvements they made is that they got rid of it. It is now an expression, and you have to create it in the expression editor. Fun huh? On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Rod McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have recently up-graded to 2009b and for the first time since I

Re: [Finale] missing 'Create Tempo Plug-In'

2008-11-16 Thread Florence + Michael
On 16 Nov 2008, at 15:36, David Froom wrote: You might consider not using it. I'm not sure it takes all that much longer to make a tempo change now. You double-click to add an expression, click on the Tempo Marks set, select one of the given expressions, click on duplicate, then edit.

Re: [Finale] missing 'Create Tempo Plug-In'

2008-11-16 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Generally, when I do work, I don't have tempos already defined, and when I have used the plugin before, it is creating a tempo for the first time. So, the whole first part of your argument is nulled. They should have just updated the plugin. I think it was a quick, easy way to get tempos into a

Re: [Finale] missing 'Create Tempo Plug-In'

2008-11-16 Thread Eric Dannewitz
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:36 AM, David Froom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with the Create Tempo Plug-in, I think, is that it used Maestro numbers instead of Times. I always found that to look most unprofessional. But, if really like it, and if you have an old copy of Finale around,

Re: [Finale] missing 'Create Tempo Plug-In'

2008-11-16 Thread Eric Dannewitz
The Quarter note = circa 100 can be done with the plugin, however, parentheses around the whole expression is a no go. On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Florence + Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that it is now very easy to do such things as add parentheses around the definition of the

Re: [Finale] missing 'Create Tempo Plug-In'

2008-11-16 Thread Allen Fisher
I'll see that this gets updated. On Nov 16, 2008, at 3:12 AM, Florence + Michael wrote: Allen, this needs to be made clear in the documentation. If you look at the page on tempo marking, you'll see it still says: Note that you can easily generate full-featured metronome marking

Re: [Finale] missing 'Create Tempo Plug-In'

2008-11-16 Thread Florence + Michael
On 16 Nov 2008, at 18:53, Eric Dannewitz wrote: The Quarter note = circa 100 can be done with the plugin, How? To be absolutely clear, I'm talking about the quarter note symbol. I can only make the plug-in create circa [quarter note] = 100, not [quarter note] = circa 100 Michael

Re: [Finale] missing 'Create Tempo Plug-In'

2008-11-16 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Easy, highlight the measure, go to the plugin, check Display Tempo text, type in what you want, and uncheck Display Metronome Marking. On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Florence + Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Nov 2008, at 18:53, Eric Dannewitz wrote: The Quarter note = circa 100 can

Re: [Finale] missing 'Create Tempo Plug-In'

2008-11-16 Thread Florence + Michael
No, that doesn't make an expression with the symbol for the quarter note in it, only normal text. On 16 Nov 2008, at 19:41, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Easy, highlight the measure, go to the plugin, check Display Tempo text, type in what you want, and uncheck Display Metronome Marking. On Sun,

Re: [Finale] missing 'Create Tempo Plug-In'

2008-11-16 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Ok, no, it doesn't. But then again, I've never noted any tempo marking like that. Regardless, I still think the Plugin should have been modified to work with the new expressions rather than just axed. It is more steps to create markings. On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Florence +

Re: [Finale] fermatas over rests

2008-11-16 Thread Darcy James Argue
Yep. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 16 Nov 2008, at 3:43 PM, dc wrote: If a part is silent and other parts have a fermata, does one need to add a fermata over the rest? Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] fermatas over rests

2008-11-16 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 3:43 PM, dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If a part is silent and other parts have a fermata, does one need to add a fermata over the rest? Thanks, Dennis Hi Dennis: Brian makes me do that for the Graupner editions. Take care Kim

Re: [Finale] fermatas over rests

2008-11-16 Thread John Howell
At 9:43 PM +0100 11/16/08, dc wrote: If a part is silent and other parts have a fermata, does one need to add a fermata over the rest? Of course. Otherwise everyone whose part is silent won't know that there's a fermata, will barge right ahead, and will then write in the fermata you left

Re: [Finale] fermatas over rests

2008-11-16 Thread John Howell
At 10:11 PM +0100 11/16/08, dc wrote: John Howell écrit: Of course. Otherwise everyone whose part is silent won't know that there's a fermata, will barge right ahead, and will then write in the fermata you left out while cursing you under their breath! Well, I should have added that this

Re: [Finale] O.T. Iconography in Music History

2008-11-16 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Nov 15, 2008, at 5:09 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Only outdoor pipe organs would be able to have more than about 4 or 5 logarithmic pipes, I think (unless you started with rilly, rilly tiny mixture-type pipes), and wouldn't be terribly useful musically. Pitch rises logarithmically

Re: [Finale] O.T. Iconography in Music History

2008-11-16 Thread David W. Fenton
On 16 Nov 2008 at 17:27, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Nov 15, 2008, at 5:09 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Only outdoor pipe organs would be able to have more than about 4 or 5 logarithmic pipes, I think (unless you started with rilly, rilly tiny mixture-type pipes), and wouldn't be terribly