Re: [Finale] OT: Temporary email addresses

2006-12-20 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:42 AM 12/20/2006 -0500, Phil Daley wrote: If you have to sign up for something using an email address that you don't want to be spammed on, take a look at this article: http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/web/2006/1204web1.html?docid=6424 And there's also the BugMeNot extension to

Re: [Finale] OT: Temporary email addresses

2006-12-20 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:05 PM 12/20/2006 -0500, Phil Daley wrote: At 12/20/2006 11:09 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: And there's also the BugMeNot extension to Firefox, which auto-fills fields for sites that require free membership. Click on the log-in field, choose sign in with BugMeNot from the context menu

Re: [Finale] OT: Temporary email addresses

2006-12-20 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 02:06 PM 12/20/2006 -0500, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 01:42 PM 12/20/2006, Phil Daley wrote: You go to a site to download a free program. They want an email address to confirm that the email address you have given them is valid BEFORE they will let you download the program. Right. BugMeNot

Re: [Finale] Trouble adding a natural to a note.

2006-12-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:19 AM 12/15/06 -0500, Éric Dussault wrote: I believe it becomes unresponsive when a note has been enharmonically changed. From memory, sometimes pressing the asterisk on the previous enharmonic note will work. Oh, yes, that happened yesterday, but it affects not only the * but also +

Re: [Finale] Last word arguments

2006-12-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:52 AM 12/15/06 -0800, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Well, it doesn't make sense. Sites like Digg, Slashdot, MacDailyNews, MacNN.Yahoo News... All those have new items at the top. Doesn't it make sense then that messages and Blog and Email software work the same way? Following what is

Re: [Finale] Last word arguments

2006-12-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:49 PM 12/15/06 -0500, Phil Daley wrote: I would expect to see primary posts date ordered from newest to oldest. I would expect to see replies to primary posts from oldest to newest. There are no replies. It's just a weblog, a book-blog, so to speak. If an interesting comment is made via the

Re: [Finale] Trouble adding a natural to a note.

2006-12-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:03 PM 12/15/06 -0500, dhbailey wrote: And Dennis' remark that the * key will work if the cursor is on the original position doesn't hold true in Fin2007, at least when I change a G to Abb using the enharmonic key (9). I notice that it DOES work when it's a simpler change, such as Ab to

Re: [Finale] Trouble adding a natural to a note.

2006-12-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:48 PM 12/14/06 -0500, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: http://www.bytenet.net/kpclow/finale/flat-to-add.jpg The note that is pointed with an arrow (G), needs a natural added to it. But Finale will not let me (I'm assuming because it thinks this note hasn't had a # before). What would be a solution to

Re: [Finale] OT: The Classical Archives down?

2006-12-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:28 AM 12/12/06 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: How can that be, have the classical archives been censored for Europe? It might be a DNS issue at your ISP. Try this: http://208.139.194.154 Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Garritan Sound Libraries and Finale?

2006-12-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:43 AM 12/12/06 +0100, Daniel Wolf wrote: In any case, this is not a Garritan problem, this is a problem with sound samples. To get adequate quality, samples have to be large, and to play them in realtime, they have to sit in RAM. Doesn't it depend on the implementation? I have used large

Re: [Finale] OT: The Classical Archives down?

2006-12-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:27 PM 12/12/06 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 12.12.2006 Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 10:28 AM 12/12/06 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: How can that be, have the classical archives been censored for Europe? It might be a DNS issue at your ISP. Try this: http://208.139.194.154

Re: [Finale] cross staff tremoli stem weirdness

2006-12-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:47 PM 12/11/06 +0100, you wrote: i don't remember ever coming across this problem before, is this new to finale 2007? http://newmusicnotation.com/TEMPFILES/cross-staff_tremoli.pdf I can confirm it, but I can't find any tool to fix it. I even tried the edit frame dialog without finding a

[Finale] F2K7/W98SE, yeah, I know

2006-12-07 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all, I had planned on skipping Finale 2007, but I have a client who upgraded scores to that format, and now needs revisions. The program upgrade has arrived, and it installed on the laptop. But the laptop screen is pretty much unusable for a large orchestral score. My desktop is Win98SE with

Re: [Finale] F2K7/W98SE, yeah, I know

2006-12-07 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 02:16 PM 12/7/06 -0600, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: There may be a hardware fix for this: unless it is unlike any laptop I have ever seen, your laptop has an external monitor port. Temporarily connect one of your 20 inch monitors to your laptop. I am stupid. Of course. Many thanks, Dennis

Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues

2006-12-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 05:49 AM 12/6/06 -0500, Darcy James Argue wrote: Lobbying for more effective union leadership and lobbying for rational copyright reform aren't mutually exclusive activities. Talk about mutual exclusivity, neither are commenting on the Finale list and getting a mention in the Times. Good

Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues

2006-12-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:35 PM 12/6/06 -0500, you wrote: If you'll allow me a moment's more self-promotion, this is actually my second mention in the NYT in the past week. They also reviewed one of my gigs in Saturday's paper: http://tinyurl.com/y99skl Missed that one -- fantastic! he wants his music to make

Re: [Finale] O.T. Christmas Trees on the Finale List

2006-12-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:23 PM 12/5/06 -0500, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: Since there are so many people on this list, it'd be really wonderful to see Christmas trees from your part of the world, so feel free to share ;) No trees inside here until Christmas eve. But I did learn to iceskate at Rockefeller Center as a

Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues

2006-12-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:28 PM 12/4/06 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: That's what copyright is about. It has very little to do with benefit to society, it is something the copyright owner _owns_ and that's what it is there for. Oh, not here. US Constitution, Article I, Section 8: The Congress shall have power

Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues

2006-12-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:38 AM 12/4/06 -0500, dhbailey wrote: That's the problem with all this copyright stuff -- it's definitely not a black and white issue. Where would someone find a copy of your old web-page, if you've taken it down? If it's archived somewhere, I do hope you've sued that place for

Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues

2006-12-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:41 AM 12/4/06 -0500, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: Siva Vaidhyanathan has written a wonderful book on copyright issues Copyrights and Copywrongs: The Rise of Intellectual Property and How It Threatens Creativity (New York University Press, 2001) Yes, this is an excellent book -- though a little

Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues

2006-12-03 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:39 PM 12/3/06 -0800, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: I took a few minutes to visit the ISMN website (www.ismn-international.org) and found that it is relatively inexpensive to obtain an ISMN (although they have to be ordered in bulk). If having such a number does indeed increase one's likelihood

Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues

2006-12-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Kim has actually asked this question before, I think. :) At 11:27 AM 12/1/06 -0500, John Howell wrote: I have NEVER seen an ISBN number on any piece of music. That isn't how it's sold, unless I am very much behind the times. I'm actually considering using ISBN or UPC for the future, since I've

Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues

2006-12-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 05:30 PM 12/1/06 -0500, Andrew Stiller wrote: For self-publishing, you mostly want to get the attention of the two big distributors, Theodore Front Musical Literature and J. W. Pepper and Son. There's music on Amazon. Do you think ultimately it's more viable than the old-school distributors?

Re: [Finale] OT video converter

2006-11-29 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:07 PM 11/29/06 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of a free (freeware), downloadable program to convert WMV and AVI files to MPEG files. (Preferable which you've used and know to work) I've Googled and downloaded several which turned out to be a) trial versions of payable

Re: [Finale] Importing files

2006-11-27 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:19 PM 11/27/06 -0500, Aaron Sherber wrote: It depends what you want people to do with it. If you want them to listen to it, it needs to be an audio file. If you want them to open it in Finale, it needs to be a Finale file. If you want them just to look at it and print it, it can be a PDF.

Re: [Finale] Re: Egad!!!

2006-11-19 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:15 AM 11/19/06 -0800, Carl Dershem wrote: Lifetimes could be spent on what is, essentially, a practical joke. Like the Rohonczi Codex? http://www.dacia.org/codex/original/original.html In any case, I was about to start setting one of my own old pieces from 1972, which finally got

Re: [Finale] Re: Egad!!!

2006-11-19 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:30 AM 11/20/06 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: crap, got carried away and answered more than you asked... well, maybe some of it is useful... Yes indeed. The idea of using measures for the time was a pretty nifty idea. Functional fixedness got to me! The rest of it is familiar; it was

Re: [Finale] Video files - VERY off topic

2006-11-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:05 PM 11/16/06 -0500, David W. Fenton wrote: I believe this is completely incorrect. The only exceptions would be if the CD's data were not written cleanly or if the CD drive reading the disk were misaligned or something. It's digital data. Data is data, a sieries of 0s and 1s. The only

Re: [Finale] Video files - VERY off topic

2006-11-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Here's more on those standards correction: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book_%28audio_CD_standard%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-Interleaved_Reed-Solomon_Coding Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Copyright Issue

2006-11-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:05 PM 11/15/06 -0500, dhbailey wrote: But the wide availability of the works in HAM is what's in question. If you can find them in publications which predate 1923 you're all set. The good part about HAM is that the sources are fully documented in the detailed descriptive commentary,

Re: [Finale] Matching new to old

2006-11-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:48 AM 11/13/06 -0800, Richard Yates wrote: Why not use your usual way? If you enter the musical content in Scroll View then the layout is immaterial to that task whether done before or after. Richard, My concern is a train wreck in post-facto getting the measures to lay out properly and

Re: [Finale] Matching new to old

2006-11-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:46 PM 11/13/06 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Here is how I would do this. Create the required number of measures, but leave them totally empty. Lock the required number of measures per system, but don't worry about the page layout otherwise. Then enter the music. Finally optimize. It

Re: [Finale] Matching new to old

2006-11-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:37 AM 11/13/06 -0500, John Howell wrote: Dennis: I'm assuming that in spite of wanting to keep the layout the same, the composer will make it clear which edition is the corrected edition, right? (In which case I can't quite see the value of following the old layout, but the client is

Re: [Finale] Clients Requesting Finale Files

2006-11-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:30 PM 11/13/06 -0800, Hamilton Greg wrote: I recently had a client ask for the Finale files for many of his chamber works I had prepared. It's typically not my policy to release the original files. I'm wondering what other professional copyist/ engravers are doing when faced with the

Re: [Finale] Backup Reliability (was TAN: LP--CD)

2006-11-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:42 AM 11/10/06 -0500, Leigh Daniels wrote: Trust--but verify. Funny. That's the title of my 2003 article on tethered programs. (http://maltedmedia.com/books/papers/sm-copyp.html) Guess we both loved that old guy's phrase... :) And I use a similar multiple-backup method to yours. Doesn't

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:33 AM 11/10/06 -0800, ThomaStudios wrote: I have experienced the same as Johannes. I have several, out of hundreds, of CD-Rs with backup files for clients. I can recall at least a half dozen times where I've gone back to retrieve something, and the disc wound NOT mount or would not

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:00 PM 11/10/06 +0100, dc wrote: There's also a big difference between audio CDs and data CDs. I've often seen audio CDs readable on one machine and full of errors on another. Audio CDs do not have the error-correction of data CDs; they were created to play back fairly accurately, with ways

Re: [Finale] OT Web page sites

2006-11-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:11 AM 11/9/06 -0500, Gerald Berg wrote: I am embarking on building my own web page. Currently I am on CityMax which charges 20 bucks a month with 50 MB of storage -- each additional 10MB costs another buck a month. How do these prices compare with you all? I use Pair Networks

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:54 PM 11/9/06 -0500, Andrew Stiller wrote: I feel an increasing need to digitally back up key parts of my extensive LP collection. Can anyone suggest a cheap way to get these analog sounds into my computer /or directly onto a CD? If you already have a computer with a reasonable stereo

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:16 PM 11/9/06 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Just one word of caution: CD-Rs are not a very long-lasting backup medium, and once they go they are gone for good. I am not exactly sure what the answer is, does anyone know a backup medium which will last longer? CDs tend to fail frequently

Re: [Finale] Perc. Sounds (OT)

2006-11-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:21 AM 11/6/06 -0500, dhbailey wrote: the Light Cavalry Overture is very evocative of horses (certainly for those of us who don't ride horses) in it's 6/8 section which has this rhythm: 2 16th-note pickup into a measure built of

Re: [Finale] Perc. Sounds (OT)

2006-11-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 05:53 PM 11/5/06 -0800, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: do horses amble in three-four ..it's been a long time since I've ridden? The canter is considered a three-beat stride. From 'Introduction to Gait Analysis': The three beats of the canter are closely spaced in time, but the third beat is

Re: [Finale] Blue theme

2006-11-03 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:01 PM 11/2/06 -0500, Cecil Rigby wrote: Dennis, have you checked http://www.adtunes.com/ Thanks, Cecil. I hadn't seen adtunes, but did look after your reference. I'm not the only one with the question, apparently, and unless the it's a tango-like arrangement of one of the songs I don't

[Finale] Blue theme

2006-11-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all, Is there an online directory of television and commercial theme music? My searches always dead-end. I've been wondering for some time if the tango-like theme for the American Express Blue commercials is a 'real' piece of composed for the commercial. If it's a 'real' piece, is it used

Re: [Finale] TAN: Just how good Google really is....

2006-10-31 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 02:00 AM 10/31/06 -0600, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: search?hl=enq=Akareshnikovitzky+and+Herzenvortragengruber Why exactly were you looking? :) Self-googling? Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

[Finale] Failed to load VST.DLL

2006-10-25 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all, Failed to load VST DLL. VST services are unavailable. This message appeared after installing the MusicXML full version, and MusicXML wouldn't work. It went away when I uninstalled it, but so did MusicXML. I just installed the latest Patterson plugins and got the same message. The

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

2006-10-23 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:35 PM 10/23/06 -0400, dhbailey wrote: That's the part which baffles me -- when I see a single rest in an otherwise empty measure I assume it's the full measure since there's nothing else to play. Yes, I agree. It seems this complaint may be a false expectation of specificity, unless it's

Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-23 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:09 PM 10/23/06 -0500, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: I am not prepared to deny that there may have been typefaces in which the fonts contained proportional width numerals, though these do not appear to have been standard I mentioned the Bringhurst Elements of Typographic Style the other day. He

Re: [Finale] Re: [OT] Nucular [was:Finale eggcorn]

2006-10-19 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:05 AM 10/19/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: On 19 Oct 2006 at 10:31, Ken Moore wrote: Gren-itch is standard BBC pronunciation for Greenwich, England, and green-witch for Greenwich Village, but the inhabitants of Greenwich, England, mostly call it grin-itch. Then for Greenwich Village

Re: lyrics spacing (was Re: [Finale] Re: score vs. finale)

2006-10-18 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:27 PM 10/17/06 -0700, Mark D Lew wrote: Ah! Sign of a true type-geek. It was a surprise. And I now have many books about type and page design, including a brilliant new edition of Bringhurst's The Elements of Typographic Style that covers all aspects of digital typography. (And a copy of

Re: [Finale] Finale eggcorns

2006-10-18 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:23 AM 10/18/06 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 18/10/2006 05:29:58 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's a very large body of -cular words pulling the pronunciation in that direction, against virtually none that end with a sound like -cle-ar. There

Re: lyrics spacing (was Re: [Finale] Re: score vs. finale)

2006-10-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:24 PM 10/15/06 -0700, Mark D Lew wrote: I think I've cited this sample before, but a page on Recordare's site http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/recordare/SullPina02Sample.pdf shows a good example of the tug-of-war between lyrics and music. There are hand-engraved scores where font width

Re: [Finale] quartertone playback

2006-10-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:00 PM 10/16/06 -0400, dhbailey wrote: Just as a thought, could you create the quarter-tone accidentals as expressions, with playback set to Pitchwheel? IIRC you can do that -- but Johannes said the music was already entered. Dennis ___

Re: [Finale] quartertone playback

2006-10-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:22 PM 10/16/06 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I succeeded very well to get the quartertone stuff entered into Finale (and I now understand why some people prefer Speedy without MIDI keyboard). Although playback is not really important to me, I do wonder whether it is theoretically

Re: [Finale] Re: score vs. finale

2006-10-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:22 AM 10/16/06 -0700, Michael Good wrote: The limitations you mention are what I meant when I said that gaps in translation tend to be due to economics more than technology. The technology is there to fill those gaps, but nobody (yet) wants to pay the product development costs. Similarly,

RE: [Finale] quartertone playback

2006-10-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:24 PM 10/16/06 +0100, Owain Sutton wrote: Whether it's a task for Finalescript or something yet to be developed, but I can't see how it's beyond the realms of possibility for notes with accidental X to be given particular midi data, while notes with accidentals Y Z are treated normally.

Re: [Finale] quartertone playback

2006-10-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:31 AM 10/17/06 +0200, Daniel Wolf wrote: The non-standard key signatures don't work that way. An octave is defined as having x tones, each tone is assigned to a midi pitch number mod x, with nominals (white keys) and accidentals distributed as you like. In this way pitch classes repeat at

Re: [Finale] Re: score vs. finale

2006-10-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:44 PM 10/14/06 +0200, shirling neueweise wrote: uh... warning, fill your coffee mug to the brim. Just a public thank-you for that detailed commentary. I wonder if you have ever tried Graphire Music Press, which seems to produce gorgeous output. I used it, but could never make an effective

Re: [Finale] Re: score vs. finale

2006-10-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:24 AM 10/15/06 -0400, Christopher Smith wrote: This point has bigger repercussions, IMHO. One of the things that bothers me about Finale (and if this bothers me, it must INFURIATE engravers like jef!) is that everything in Finale does NOT stay where you put it! Speaking as one who

Re: [Finale] Re: score vs. finale

2006-10-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:59 PM 10/15/06 -0700, you wrote: Most germane for this discussion is that MusicXML 1.1 can be used to export a very highly detailed representation of Finale files. It is so detailed in terms of formatting that programs like musicRAIN have used it to render scores that are indistinguishable

Re: Way OT by now: Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:57 AM 10/13/06 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Hey? I am a Mac person, and I hate XP. You must be confusing me. Who was it kept saying one couldn't do anything with an older operating system like Win98SE? (Other than Eric.) I thought it was you... I am confusing you with someone else, then.

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:27 PM 10/11/06 -0700, Eric Dannewitz wrote: As both a Windows and Mac user, I'd say never. Cause Windows XP, in my experience, never boots right if you pull a motherboard and try to boot with your old system. And, if it does boot, Windows knows you've changed systems, and you need to

Re: [Finale] OT Linux [was: Converting old files: why bother?]

2006-10-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:15 PM 10/12/06 +0100, Ken Moore wrote: That sounds very attractive if you are happy with a Unix-like environment. I'm just using the GUI. My insignificant knowledge of the Unix environment is based on FreeBSD. Thing is, I don't really want to do any command-line stuff, which is why I've

Way OT by now: Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 05:50 PM 10/12/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: Where have you been Dennis? This has been the case since the introduction of machine-based authorization in WinXP back in 2001 or 2002 (whenever XP came out). My family's computers continue to function flawlessly because no one else touches

Re: [Finale] Music notation for the tablet PC?

2006-10-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:22 PM 10/11/06 -0400, Andrew Levin wrote: I have a violinist in my university orchestra who is a computer science major. He is interested in taking on a project of developing a music notation program for the tablet PC, where you handwrite the music onto the screen. Before getting too

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:47 PM 10/11/06 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote: How often does the average Wintel user upgrade their motherboard? A good question. Since I do the work for myself, family and a friend (all of us relatively poor), this probably happens more often than 'average' users. My own machine is the

RE: [Finale] OT-Bekakt--the End

2006-10-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:10 PM 10/11/06 -0400, Williams, Jim wrote: The original post was probably blocked because it had no words of english in it. I received it via the list. Maybe things are erratic. I also responded to the thread with the Yiddish dictionary reference, but nobody mentioned that. Maybe it got

Re: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:40 PM 10/11/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: I don't see any attachment on this message that I'm replying to. The listserv seems to have stripped it, if it was there. I'm getting them. They're coming in as attachments with names like msg-7775-7661.txt with the full text content of the

Re: [Finale] Wind ensemble/wind band

2006-10-08 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:04 AM 10/8/06 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I should be a little more specific - our wind ensemble uses pairs of flutes, oboes, clarinets, bassoons and horns, i.e. apart from the flutes, the classical wind band (although we do play lots of modern music). If a particular piece calls

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 02:15 PM 10/6/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: Look at the world of software in 1993, when the first version of Office was created. It offered: 1. Word 6 2. Excel 5 3. PowerPoint something-or-other 3. PowerPoint 4 4. Access 2 I still have this MS Office installed on my old Pentium 100

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:09 PM 10/6/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: Not Access 2, because that wasn't released until 1993, and the first Office bundle that included Access was the one released in 1994. You're right. I have Office Professional 4.3 (the original box is still on the shelf -- REAL MANUALS!), which I

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:00 PM 10/6/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: So, it's perfectly possible to have a box that was purchased in one year that doesn't include what it says it includes! I wasn't clear. I have the box, manuals and software. It is what it says. It's the whole package, with Access 2.0, including

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:50 PM 10/6/06 -0400, Andrew Stiller wrote: Written musical notation is continuously and seamlessly evolving, and its current form can be characterized as 19th century only as a deliberately inaccurate pejorative. You need to stop that. 19th century quirks aren't the same as 19th century

Re: [Finale] Re: OT bekakte

2006-10-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:43 PM 10/6/06 +0200, Barbara Touburg wrote: Suddeny I see a Dutch word. What does bekakte mean in English? In Dutch to bekakt means pretending to be chique and insisting on displaying it. I'm sure you'll be swamped with replies. verkakte, vekakte, farkakte, fakakta, fekokteh, farcockteh,

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:18 PM 10/5/06 -0400, John T Sylvanis wrote: Maybe I want too much, but I think my quest is not at all unreasonable when suggesting unification such that a package comports GOOD notation, GOOD sequencing and GOOD sapling on par with GOOD sequencing software, GOOD notation software and GOOD

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 05:44 PM 10/5/06 -0700, Steve Schow wrote: These days, Finale actually *IS* the program that has come to closest to filling this whole. With plugins and notation and Human playback..it truly is the closest thing to being an ideal composer's tool. Nothing else is there. Unfortunately, that's

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:48 PM 10/5/06 -0700, Steve Schow wrote: Well indeed it may have a ways further to go...but in my view its the closest thing.. But yes... i am more of a traditional composer, composing film scores and the like...which is at best very early post-tonal..nothing extravagant. There are a lot

RE: [Finale] Wandering augmentation dots?

2006-10-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:25 PM 10/4/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: On 4 Oct 2006 at 22:12, Williams, Jim wrote: No, Finale is not a sequencer, nor is Sibelius... But you can edit MIDI data and save the file as MIDI. That makes it a sequencer, seems to me, but maybe you have a different definition of the term.

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:11 AM 10/2/06 -0400, dhbailey wrote: In the Speedy Entry menu, be sure Use Midi Device For Input is UNchecked. Do NOT try to use the embedded numeric keypad -- use the top-row keys. In terms of touch-typing, this is slower because of the reach and the two hands having to be overtop each

Re: [Finale] Speedy jumping around

2006-10-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:34 PM 10/2/06 +0200, Barbara Touburg wrote: Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 02.10.2006 Barbara Touburg wrote: Now I see what's causing the trouble: the second system of a page (from page 12 on) is repeated as first system on the next page. Ctrl-U or Shft-Ctr-U doesn't fix this. Help?

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 02:03 PM 10/2/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: The equation may be different for different people, but I don't see the utility in learning the insanely arbitrary keyboard shortcuts, unless one has no possibility of ever using a MIDI keyboard for input. Yeah, Midi keyboards are especially

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:06 PM 10/2/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: Navigating up and down the staff with the arrow keys is so incredibly slow that I couldn't imagine that was the method anyone claiming any speed was actually using. I mentioned that autorepeat is set to max and delay to min. I can 'feel' exactly

[Finale] Moving pages

2006-10-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all, FinWin 2006. I am updating about 50 earlier chamber scores, and most of them had performance notes and examples on a final page after the music. I would like to move those notes to the obverse of the title page. Is there a way of moving/sorting pages without having to move, readjust,

Re: [Finale] Moving pages

2006-10-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 02:56 PM 10/1/06 -0500, Robert Patterson wrote: You can use my Page Title Mover plugin to move page titles from one or more pages to another page. Graphics, no. (I would like to Page Title Mover to know about graphics, but MM has provided no documentation about graphics to plugin

Re: [Finale] Moving pages

2006-10-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:58 PM 10/1/06 -0500, Robert Patterson wrote: Page Title Mover is part of the v3 upgrade of Patterson Plugins. You can try it out for free without affecting your v2 installation. I've just puchased it. I like your work. :) From a Finale perspective, do you have Finale objects on pages

Re: [Finale] Moving pages

2006-10-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:58 PM 10/1/06 -0500, Robert Patterson wrote: Instead you must move the page-attached objects to the desired page. These seem to have stayed where they were placed, except for graphics. So far. Had a scare there. Dennis ___ Finale mailing

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:40 PM 10/1/06 -0500, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Turning to your point about not being able to enter notes in Speedy entry, a MIDI controller (it need not necessarily be a keyboard, thought this may be most convenient), while useful in simple entry in 2k7, is _required_ to be able to access

Re: [Finale] Moving pages

2006-10-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:19 PM 10/1/06 -0500, you wrote: To really have a definitive opinion on this, I should probably ask two questions: What is your printing and binding method; are these being printed as booklets, or being printed out as separate pages for external binding? Second, do you have the good

Re: [Finale] Save as pdf

2006-09-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:45 AM 9/30/06 -0500, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: To provide some balance to David and Dennis, my preferred method of generating ~.pdf files in windows [XP Home (SP2) is to use a driver for a postscript printer to generate a ~.ps file, then to use Ghostview / Ghostscript [GV/GS] to convert the

Re: [Finale] OT : Print on demand services for early music

2006-09-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:37 AM 9/30/06 -0400, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: I'm curious if anyone knows anyone who has used this service? Or has any feedback or thoughts on it? I have used on-demand printing for this book, which I edited and designed:

Re: [Finale] OT : Print on demand services for early music

2006-09-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:37 AM 9/30/06 -0400, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: I'm curious if anyone knows anyone who has used this service? Or has any feedback or thoughts on it? Just a followup ... it was Lightning Source in Tennessee. https://www.lightningsource.com/ Dennis

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:47 PM 9/30/06 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote: It's just a little smarter about it than Windows -- it knows which applications can open which file types. If I change the file extension of a Finale document to .doc, it will still open in Finale, not Word. If I change the file extension

Re: [Finale] Save as pdf

2006-09-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:58 PM 10/1/06 +0200, Daniel Wolf wrote: And one more test: I compiled a Postscript listing of the same score in Finale Does Finale 2007 allow custom page sizes for compiling? Up through 2006, you could put custom sizes in the height and width boxes, but it would only use what was

Re: [Finale] Re: Postscript

2006-09-29 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:29 AM 9/29/06 +0200, dc wrote: I've never had any problems with the TT fonts, but I've had all sorts of difficulties when I need to use the PS fonts. I've just been told by a publisher: Commercial publishers abandoned TrueType fonts a long time ago because they produce unreliable results

Re: [Finale] quartertone accidentals

2006-09-28 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:49 PM 9/28/06 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I may have to enter my very first quarter tone piece soon. What is the best way to deal with quartertone accidentals? I have never done this before, so I will need some very basic advice... Set up your quartertones with the key signature tool to

Re: [Finale] Adding space at the beginning of each system

2006-09-27 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:59 AM 9/27/06 -0400, dhbailey wrote: Finale would be a fantastic program if it weren't for the marketing department and the manual writers! Yesterday I had a serious brain freeze on how to separately respace individual staves on one system on a page. It was nowhere to be found in the

Re: [Finale] Adding space at the beginning of each system

2006-09-27 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
[This is a resend. It appears in today's archive, but did not get to me via email as my other postings do, so just in case...] At 08:59 AM 9/27/06 -0400, dhbailey wrote: Finale would be a fantastic program if it weren't for the marketing department and the manual writers! Yesterday I had a

Re: [Finale] Adding space at the beginning of each system

2006-09-27 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:05 AM 9/27/06 -0400, Christopher Smith wrote: And to think that an earlier version of Finale (was 3.2? the version I started on!) won an award for best manual. The earliest version I had (2.2) had an excellent manual, one of the best software manuals I had ever seen. It was divided into

Re: [Finale] custom arrowhead (custom line) full of BUGS

2006-09-27 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:18 PM 9/27/06 -0500, Randolph Peters wrote: I'm sure you tried this and every other trick, but I got it into my head that I could succeed where others had failed. I don't know what came over me! :-| Many of us have tried variants on the line/arrowhead. The best other thought was a clumsy

Re: [Finale] Tan: Henle engraving video

2006-09-27 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:27 PM 9/27/06 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote: Well, you'll notice the recent trend towards using a ragged right edge in hardcovers. Ragged right goes in out of fashion. Books were sometimes published with uncut signatures, and you had to tear the pages at the edges. In fact, many of the

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