Re: [Finale] Multimeasure Rests

Until this bug is addressed, you can create mm rests in all parts at once from the score. Select all and look in edit menu>multi measure rest>crate>all parts (or something like that - you'll figure it out) Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 5, 2017, at 4:38 AM, Michael Lawlor

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure Rests

In my case, this is broken. MM rests are not created automatically, in spite of checking that box. Chuck > On Jan 5, 2017, at 3:17 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: > > On 1/5/2017 5:38 AM, Michael Lawlor wrote: >> Finale 2014.5 >> >> Even though I have specified the

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure Rests

I create all mine at once, because when I make edits I sometimes get added material buried in the former rests. You can create for all parts at once in the Create Multimeasure Rests menu item. Christopher Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 5, 2017, at 5:38 AM, Michael Lawlor

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure Rests

On 1/5/2017 5:38 AM, Michael Lawlor wrote: > Finale 2014.5 > > Even though I have specified the parameters for creating multimeasure > rests in the part extraction dialogue, I do not get multimeasure rests > and have to create them manually in each part. Does this work or is > there something I

[Finale] Multimeasure Rests

Finale 2014.5 Even though I have specified the parameters for creating multimeasure rests in the part extraction dialogue, I do not get multimeasure rests and have to create them manually in each part. Does this work or is there something I might be missing? Happy New Year, Michael Lawlor

[Finale] multimeasure rests in linked part with voices

Clarinets 1 and 2 share a line in the score. The voices are specified like this for the linked parts: Clarinet 1 Selected Notes from one or more layers 1st Note Include Single Note Passages Display Layer 1 Clarinet 2 Selected Notes from one or more layers 2nd Note Include Single Note Passages

Re: [Finale] multimeasure rests in linked part with voices

There is a Staff Style, called Blank Notation with Rests Layer 1. Apply in the part, TO THE PART ONLY, and then you will able to make a multimeasure rest with those measures IN THE PART ONLY. There is another one for Layer 4, but none for Layer 2, AFAIK, so you'll have to create it if you ever

[Finale] Multimeasure rests with undefined length

Hi all, I have a free drum solo in a chart. Free meaning no specific length or over any well defined multiple of a period. If I had written the parts (both other parts and the drum part) by hand I would have drawn a multimeasure rest in one measure and write Drum solo open or something like

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests with undefined length

The way I usually indicate something like this is to put an entered whole rest in the other parts with a fermata and (Drum solo) (no quotes) over it. In the drum part it would be a whole note, changed to Rhythmic Notation staff style, also with a fermata over it and the indication Open

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

At 11:38 PM -0400 9/29/07, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 10:45 PM 9/29/2007, David W. Fenton wrote: Having looked at the score, I would say that I think the score is wrong (it's bowed as 2+3 quite regularly -- I can only hear the triplet as upbeat of 3, not as downbeat of 3). Okay, well, I know

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

On 29 Sep 2007 at 23:38, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 10:45 PM 9/29/2007, David W. Fenton wrote: Having looked at the score, I would say that I think the score is wrong (it's bowed as 2+3 quite regularly -- I can only hear the triplet as upbeat of 3, not as downbeat of 3). Okay, well, I

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

1) Would you consider it acceptable to force multimeasure rests in this situation (provided they always begin on the first measure of the 4+3 pattern)? Otherwise, I think the parts will be needlessly long and difficult to follow. I have done this by showing the pattern as a repeat with a

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

Hey Dennis, Hmm. I'd prefer a solution that works with linked parts. For now, I'm just using Robert's Measure Numbers plugin to number the empty measures when there are more than four of them in a row. The parts still run long that way, but at least they are unambiguous. (By the way,

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

I'd prefer a solution that works with linked parts. I figured you might. I've been so wary of Finale's bugs for so long that I use as few automated features as possible. I've never used linked parts or even Finale's old part extraction. In the kind of stuff I mostly do, those features require a

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

On 29.09.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote: (By the way, that Beginning with Measure [999], [Check] Always Show Last [999] tip works like a charm when dealing with linked parts.) Tell us, what it does, I have forgotten. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

These settings are required if you want to use the plugin on a linked part. Otherwise, the plugin-created numbers show up on all parts + score. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 29 Sep 2007, at 4:55 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 29.09.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote: (By the

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

At 11:29 PM 9/28/2007, Darcy James Argue wrote: 1) Would you consider it acceptable to force multimeasure rests in this situation (provided they always begin on the first measure of the 4+3 pattern)? Otherwise, I think the parts will be needlessly long and difficult to follow. Personally, no.

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

Darcy James Argue wrote: Hello list, I have a piece that alternates measures of 4/4 and 3/4 throughout. The pattern does not vary at all -- it's always one measure of 4 followed by one measure of 3. My questions are about multimeasure rests in the parts. Obviously, by default, Finale won't

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

On Sep 28, 2007, at 11:29 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hello list, I have a piece that alternates measures of 4/4 and 3/4 throughout. The pattern does not vary at all -- it's always one measure of 4 followed by one measure of 3. My questions are about multimeasure rests in the parts.

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

If you want to force multimeasure rests in this case, the meter itself should show the alternation (e.g., 4/4 + 3/4), so that in neither score nor part are any further meter changes notated. A good example of this in standard orch. rep. is the Overture to Westside Story. It starts out in

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

Darcy James Argue / 07.9.28 / 11:29 PM wrote: I have a piece that alternates measures of 4/4 and 3/4 throughout. The pattern does not vary at all -- it's always one measure of 4 followed by one measure of 3. I'd definitely do 7/4 or 4+3/4. It is easier to feel the groove if jazz piece. If

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

Speaking as an orchestral musician, I don't like it. One piece, extremely well known, that does this, is Bernstein's _West Side Story_, alternating 4/4 and 2/4 but using block multimeasure rests. When we play it, I lightly pencil in each 4/4 and 2/4 underneath, and I've been around the

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

At 11:29 PM -0400 9/28/07, Darcy James Argue wrote: 1) Would you consider it acceptable to force multimeasure rests in this situation (provided they always begin on the first measure of the 4+3 pattern)? Otherwise, I think the parts will be needlessly long and difficult to follow. Agreed,

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

Hey Chris, The dotted barline thing would be too much of a kludge right now, I think, especially since the music is already entered and the parts need to get out the door today. I'm not afraid of 7/4 and have notated several works in 7, but this piece has a lot of flowing, rhapsodic

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

Darcy James Argue wrote: Hey Chris, The dotted barline thing would be too much of a kludge right now, I think, especially since the music is already entered and the parts need to get out the door today. It should be easy. Define a vertical dotted line, measure-assign it very carefully

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

Doing that would destroy all my existing measure expressions. I would also have to rebar all the music, which is always fraught with peril. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 29 Sep 2007, at 2:20 PM, Barbara Touburg wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: Hey Chris, The

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

I must admit I didn't try it first. You're right, it messes up the existing measure expressions, but not how I expected it (overwriting, thus deleting them). It overwrites the m.e. only in the stave _in which I did the copying_, i.a.w. it changes the assignment list! So if you do this from a

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

On 29 Sep 2007 at 13:45, John Howell wrote: The 5/4 Tchaikovsky waltz is written in 5/4, but is consistently 2 + 3 beats. It's been a long time since I looked at the score, but in my head, I hear: ||: 3 + 2 | 2 + 3 :|| Am I misremembering the theme entirely? -- David W. Fenton

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

At 03:21 PM 9/29/2007, David W. Fenton wrote: It's been a long time since I looked at the score, but in my head, I hear: ||: 3 + 2 | 2 + 3 :|| Am I misremembering the theme entirely? In and of itself, the melody could be heard that way. But the phrasing (and beaming) makes it clear that it's

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

http://imslp.ca/images/imslp.ca/4/4f/Tchaikovsky_-_Symphony_No_6_Op_74_-_Second_movement.pdf David W. Fenton wrote: On 29 Sep 2007 at 13:45, John Howell wrote: The 5/4 Tchaikovsky waltz is written in 5/4, but is consistently 2 + 3 beats. It's been a long time since I looked at the

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

On 29 Sep 2007 at 21:55, John Howell wrote: At 3:21 PM -0400 9/29/07, David W. Fenton wrote: On 29 Sep 2007 at 13:45, John Howell wrote: The 5/4 Tchaikovsky waltz is written in 5/4, but is consistently 2 + 3 beats. It's been a long time since I looked at the score, but in my head,

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

At 3:21 PM -0400 9/29/07, David W. Fenton wrote: On 29 Sep 2007 at 13:45, John Howell wrote: The 5/4 Tchaikovsky waltz is written in 5/4, but is consistently 2 + 3 beats. It's been a long time since I looked at the score, but in my head, I hear: ||: 3 + 2 | 2 + 3 :|| Am I misremembering

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

At 10:45 PM 9/29/2007, David W. Fenton wrote: Having looked at the score, I would say that I think the score is wrong (it's bowed as 2+3 quite regularly -- I can only hear the triplet as upbeat of 3, not as downbeat of 3). Okay, well, I know this is a silly argument, since clearly Tchaikowsky

[Finale] Multimeasure rests in mixed meter pieces

Hello list, I have a piece that alternates measures of 4/4 and 3/4 throughout. The pattern does not vary at all -- it's always one measure of 4 followed by one measure of 3. My questions are about multimeasure rests in the parts. Obviously, by default, Finale won't create any

[Finale] Multimeasure Rests

Solved my problem. Mirable dictu. Bruce Clausen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess is that it's a holdover from the days when multimeasure rests actually represented the number of rests involved. That meant in 4/4 two measures of rest would be represented by a double whole rest (i.e., a block filling an entire space rather

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23 Oct 2006 at 22:52, dc wrote: The 3/1 sections use mostly double whole notes and whole notes, whereas the C sections use up to 16th notes. See for example http://www.philomela.net/sp/rovetta_gaudete_fratres_in_domino.gif where I

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

On Oct 23, 2006, at 5:10 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: One of the overriding concerns of music notation thru the ages, and esp. engraving, seems to have been the elimination of the need to AssUMe anything. It is, of course, a never-ending quest, but in this case the convention is quite

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

At 9:47 AM +0100 10/24/06, Ken Moore wrote: David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23 Oct 2006 at 22:52, dc wrote: The 3/1 sections use mostly double whole notes and whole notes, whereas the C sections use up to 16th notes. See for example

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

Andrew Stiller: Even more sensible would be to leave empty measures empty--as in fact has been done in most music of the last fifty years and more. By this do you mean cutaway scores? If so, they not only leave the measure empty but also remove the staff-lines as well. I would dispute the

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

On 24 Oct 2006 at 8:53, dc wrote: David W. Fenton écrit: But haven't you created the problem for yourself by halving the 4/2 section and leaving the 3/1 section in its original meter? If you were moving from 3/1 to 4/2 it would be the original ratios and you wouldn't have the spacing

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

On 24 Oct 2006 at 9:08, Ken Moore wrote: David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess is that it's a holdover from the days when multimeasure rests actually represented the number of rests involved. That meant in 4/4 two measures of rest would be represented by a double whole rest

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

On 24 Oct 2006 at 14:19, John Howell wrote: I admit that I am puzzled by the coloration in measure 12, since as realized the black semibreve and breve have exactly the same value as it they were normally white. I can answer that one. Black notation was used in these contexts (pre-

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

Hi Dennis, I don't see a way to have actual rests in meausers in the score that will convert into mm rests in parts, as long as the parts are linked. I may be missing some idea, but that's how it looks to me and, if I were facing that problem, I'd be thinking about extracting separate parts.

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

dc wrote: Here's my problem. I have a certain number of pieces that need a different default whole measure rest (alternating 3/1 and C sections). So what I do, since this is unfortunately impossible in Finale, is use the double whole note rest as default, and add whole note rests where I need

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

On 23 Oct 2006 at 13:14, dhbailey wrote: I've never understood the need for a different whole-rest for empty measures in meters larger than 4/4. We have no problem using them in meters smaller than 4/4, so why not just keep the traditional whole-rest for all meters? It's painfully obvious

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

dhbailey wrote: I've never understood the need for a different whole-rest for empty measures in meters larger than 4/4. According to Ross, you use double-whole rests for meters larger than 6/4. Actually, I believe he mispoke. One uses a whole rest in empty measures for any meter smaller

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

On 23.10.2006 dhbailey wrote: I've never understood the need for a different whole-rest for empty measures in meters larger than 4/4. We have no problem using them in meters smaller than 4/4, so why not just keep the traditional whole-rest for all meters? Because otherwise you get the

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

On 23 Oct 2006 at 21:19, dc wrote: P.S. The choice of the default whole measure rest is another issue. Regardless of what might be preferable, I want to decide myself, and not let Finale decide for me. Ideally, it could be implemented as a staff style that could be applied to a region. That

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

dc wrote: Thanks, Chuck and David for your suggestions. In the meantime, I've found a workaround that seems to do the trick without too much trouble: instead of actually entering the rests in the C sections, I use measure attached expressions in the score and a staff style to hide the normal

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

On 23 Oct 2006 at 21:58, dc wrote: David W. Fenton écrit: Ideally, it could be implemented as a staff style that could be applied to a region. That would alleviate any need to enter real rests, and entirely take care of the problem with parts and multimeasure rests. Still, there are a

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

dhbailey wrote: I've never understood the need for a different whole-rest for empty measures in meters larger than 4/4. We have no problem using them in meters smaller than 4/4, so why not just keep the traditional whole-rest for all meters? It seems to me that it would be the exact same

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 23.10.2006 dhbailey wrote: I've never understood the need for a different whole-rest for empty measures in meters larger than 4/4. We have no problem using them in meters smaller than 4/4, so why not just keep the traditional whole-rest for all meters? Because

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

Noel Stoutenburg wrote: dhbailey wrote: I've never understood the need for a different whole-rest for empty measures in meters larger than 4/4. We have no problem using them in meters smaller than 4/4, so why not just keep the traditional whole-rest for all meters? It seems to me that it

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

dhbailey wrote: That's the part which baffles me -- when I see a single rest in an otherwise empty measure I assume it's the full measure since there's nothing else to play. One of the overriding concerns of music notation thru the ages, and esp. engraving, seems to have been the

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

At 04:35 PM 10/23/06 -0400, dhbailey wrote: That's the part which baffles me -- when I see a single rest in an otherwise empty measure I assume it's the full measure since there's nothing else to play. Yes, I agree. It seems this complaint may be a false expectation of specificity, unless it's

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

On 23 Oct 2006 at 22:52, dc wrote: David W. Fenton écrit: I've done quite a bit of such music and never felt I had a problem. What is the spacing issue that bothers you in that context? The spacing of the 3/1 sections ends up much too wide compared to that of the C sections if you use the

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests

It may be possible to remove the MM rest shape from the spot in which it appears in the shape selection window and replace it with a new shape copied from another place. At least I'd try this in one document to see if that solved the problem. Chuck On Dec 6, 2004, at 1:00 PM, d. collins wrote: