Re: [Finale] voices vs layers

2015-02-03 Thread GERALD BERG
Don Is that as straight forward as it sounds?  I'll give it a try!  Thanks. GJB From: Don Hart donhartmu...@gmail.com To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] voices vs layers Hi Gerald, I recently started using expressions

Re: [Finale] voices vs layers

2015-02-02 Thread GERALD BERG
Williams br...@barisax.net To: Finale Mailing List finale@shsu.edu Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] voices vs layers I use voices all the time, especially in the following situations: 1) Importing MIDI files that have divisis within tracks (MIDI import doesn't support

Re: [Finale] voices vs layers

2015-02-02 Thread Don Hart
Hi Jef, Weird, but as designed, I believe. I may be able to help you make some sense of it. The suggested implementation of v1/v2 is for the v2 note(s) not to be a greater cumulative rhythmic value than the v1 note they are launched from. The terminology from early documentation was (I believe)

Re: [Finale] voices vs layers

2015-02-02 Thread Don Hart
to avoid snarling the procedure. GJB From: Brian Williams br...@barisax.net To: Finale Mailing List finale@shsu.edu Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] voices vs layers I use voices all the time, especially in the following situations: 1) Importing MIDI

Re: [Finale] voices vs layers

2015-02-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Mon, February 2, 2015 12:48 pm, SN jef chippewa wrote: is it just me? or do voices really suck as badly as i feel right this moment? What everyone else said so far. Plus, I do a lot of scratch demos for me and others. Voices are very fast in that you can switch and never ever ever EVER have

Re: [Finale] voices vs layers

2015-02-02 Thread Robert Patterson
jef, as you probably know voices predate layers, and they have the feel of a legacy feature. (some newer features seem to be ignorant of voices.) i nevertheless find them to be useful in certain circumstances. a few that come to mind are: 1. splitting into 2 voices for just a beat or two. using

Re: [Finale] voices vs layers

2015-02-02 Thread Don Hart
I use probably voicees more than layers. They're great for partial measures. I always put the larger note value in voice one and the smaller values in voice two, so it's easy to come back and figure out which is which. The stem direction is very predictable: put the cursor below the note and the

[Finale] voices vs layers

2015-02-02 Thread SN jef chippewa
i remember hating using voices (as opposed to separate layers) but thought i would try it out again and find i still hate it. is there some amazing advantage of using voices that i am simply not aware of? i find it a total pain to use and obviously there is no way of seeing which music

Re: [Finale] voices vs layers

2015-02-02 Thread SN jef chippewa
hi don, makes sense i suppose mainly for smaller fragments. the score i am curently working on has 2 layters/voices both full measure, maybe this is part of the reason i find it frustrating. in a few instances with just a beat or something split in voices i found it easier to manage. i

Re: [Finale] voices vs layers

2015-02-02 Thread SN jef chippewa
hey robert, thanks. 1. splitting into 2 voices for just a beat or two. using voices instead of layers allows me not to have to freeze stems, slurs, ties, artic, etc. in other parts of the measure. i find in most circumstances that it is easier to effortlessly do note entry and control the

Re: [Finale] voices vs layers

2015-02-02 Thread Robert Patterson
jef, another reason for you in particular to use voices to the max is that v1/v2 share the same frame. i seem to recall you run out of frames. On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:06 PM, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote: hey robert, thanks. 1. splitting into 2 voices for just a beat

Re: [Finale] voices vs layers

2015-02-02 Thread Brian Williams
position when you enter them. -Brian Williams On 2/2/15, 10:00 AM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote: Message: 2 Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:48:30 +0100 From: SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com Subject: [Finale] voices vs layers To: finale@shsu.edu Message-ID

Re: [Finale] Voices vs. Layers

2006-03-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 24 Mar 2006 at 21:28, Brian Williams wrote: Does anyone else use voices instead of layers in most single-bar rhythmically-independent divisi situations? Yes -- I'm one of the ones who also think that the use of layers is recommended on this list way too often. That said, any time there

Re: [Finale] Voices vs. Layers

2006-03-25 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 05:31 PM 3/25/06 -0500, David W. Fenton wrote: That said, any time there really are two independent voices in a staff, I use layers. But for the kinds of voices that come and go in keyboard music, voices make much more sense and are far easier to work with. I'm in complete agreement. Voices

[Finale] Voices vs. Layers

2006-03-24 Thread Brian Williams
Does anyone else use voices instead of layers in most single-bar rhythmically-independent divisi situations? The advantages of voices over layers are: 1) common rests remain centered in the measure 2) independent rests can be placed on-the-fly depending on where the cursor is when you launch the

Re: [Finale] Voices vs. Layers

2006-03-24 Thread Darcy James Argue
One big disadvantage (for me, at least): Display active layer only makes it very easy to copy material from one layer only to another staff, etc. This is not possible when using voices. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 25 Mar 2006, at

Re: [Finale] Voices vs. Layers

2006-03-24 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 24, 2006, at 9:28 PM, Brian Williams wrote: With these advantages, I'm surprised at how many Finale users prefer to use layers when they could be using voices -- which are way more efficient in most divisi situations (especially in percussion and drum parts). For me, the difference