Re: [Finale] Status report
Ah, bene. Dean On Jun 13, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jun 13, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: The only prob I had with the User Manual, is that the Search function did nothing when I tried it. MakeMusic has acknowledged that one as a bug. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Canto ergo sum And, I'd rather be composing than decomposing Dean M. Estabrook http://deanestabrook.googlepages.com/home ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] plugin menu gone
On 14.06.2009 Chuck Israels wrote: I'm trying to remember what the result was, but I do think this was discussed before (it may have happened to me!), and the solution was a simple one - restarting the computer, or quitting Finale and restarting it - something like that. I hope I am not being overly optimistic - maybe someone else remembers. Well, I have tried all of those without success. I think it has to do with my previous installation not being compatible with the MacBook, although Finale seems to run just fine, it is only the plugins which are missing. Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Status report
On 14 Jun 2009, at 01:22, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: The only prob I had with the User Manual, is that the Search function did nothing when I tried it. The bug has been acknowledged. It should work if you press Enter instead of clicking on the Search button. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale2010 Manual still requires IE!
Mark McCarron wrote: I don't understand. When I choose help from within the Finale menu Safari opens on ti's own. Of course I've never installed IE. But I do have Firefox. Are you on Windows? -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Fermatas in 2010
I'm working in 2010 and find that fermatas on rests persist in lying below a rest when the choices made in the selection box designate that they are above the note. This is a new bug. Also, the tempo adjustments are set to be below a staff - opposite of normal practice. That was easy to fix. I'm preparing new tutorials for our students. I hope these matters will be fixed before September;-( Henry Howey Professor of Music Sam Houston State University Box 2208 Huntsville, TX 77341 (936) 294-1364 http://www.shsu.edu/music/faculty/howey.php Owner of FINALE Discussion List ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Status report
Hmmm , I'll give it a try ... thanx Dean On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:16 AM, Florence + Michael wrote: On 14 Jun 2009, at 01:22, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: The only prob I had with the User Manual, is that the Search function did nothing when I tried it. The bug has been acknowledged. It should work if you press Enter instead of clicking on the Search button. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Canto ergo sum And, I'd rather be composing than decomposing Dean M. Estabrook http://deanestabrook.googlepages.com/home ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: plugin menu gone
Hello Johannes, My plugin menu in 2k9 Mac has disappeared. Since you brought this over from another computer, first double-check that the Finale 2009 plug-ins folder is pointing where it should be, and that all the plug-in files are in that folder and its subfolders. If that checks out, it sounds like something has gone wrong with Launch Services on your Mac. I would recommend rebuilding the launchd database. You can do this via the Terminal or with a downloadable tool like OnyX. Best regards, Michael Good Recordare LLC www.recordare.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] extracting parts with n measures per system
Dear List, I'm using WinFin2006. Why is that when I use the lock four measures per system facility when extracting parts, it does exactly that - except for the final system where it puts three bars on one line then a bar by itself. Have I got some setting somewhere which is causing this to happen? If so, what, and how do I change it please. Cheers, Lawrence (who has just printed out a whole set of parts and will now have to do them again.) -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Old Finale manuals/books
Is there any value or interest in old Finale resources? I have the Finale 3.0 4-book set; Advanced Guide to Finale (2003); printed on-line documentation for Finale 97; Installation Tutorials (Windows - 97 2000). It seems a shame to throw 'em away, and they're too obscure for used book-store trade-in. I don't have enough time to learn each new version, much less backtrack. Giz ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fermatas in 2010
On 14 Jun 2009 at 8:58, Howey, Henry wrote: I'm working in 2010 and find that fermatas on rests persist in lying below a rest when the choices made in the selection box designate that they are above the note. This is a new bug. I've always wondered why the default fermata articulation has over/under definitions. I've never seen a score that puts the fermata anywhere but OVER the staff, and always have to change this when I end up with a file that uses the defaults. This has always struck me as one of the places where the Finale defaults are just wrong. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] extracting parts with n measures per system
On Jun 14, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Lawrence Yates wrote: Dear List, I'm using WinFin2006. Why is that when I use the lock four measures per system facility when extracting parts, it does exactly that - except for the final system where it puts three bars on one line then a bar by itself. Have I got some setting somewhere which is causing this to happen? If so, what, and how do I change it please. Cheers, Lawrence (who has just printed out a whole set of parts and will now have to do them again.) Sorry for the bad new, but that, too, is a long-standing bug with that operation. Understand that MakeMusic doesn't care as much about bugs that have easy workarounds (or even complicated workarounds) so that is not likely to be fixed soon. It is partially because of this attitude that Finale is the morass of half-baked and half-operational processes that it is today. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fermatas in 2010
On Jun 14, 2009, at 5:37 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 14 Jun 2009 at 8:58, Howey, Henry wrote: I'm working in 2010 and find that fermatas on rests persist in lying below a rest when the choices made in the selection box designate that they are above the note. This is a new bug. I've always wondered why the default fermata articulation has over/under definitions. I've never seen a score that puts the fermata anywhere but OVER the staff, and always have to change this when I end up with a file that uses the defaults. This has always struck me as one of the places where the Finale defaults are just wrong. Yes, same thing for marcatos, that have only ever been inverted V's OVER the staff until Finale made non-inverted (verted?) V's under the staff the norm when stems are up. I have no proof, but I think Finale invented that one. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fermatas in 2010
At 5:37 PM -0400 6/14/09, David W. Fenton wrote: I've always wondered why the default fermata articulation has over/under definitions. I've never seen a score that puts the fermata anywhere but OVER the staff, and always have to change this when I end up with a file that uses the defaults. An under-fermata is often needed in divisi parts or otherwise combined parts. This is covered in Roemer, p. 29 (and given as the ONLY time they should be used). I should think that they're also needed from time to time in complex keyboard notation. But for them to go in the wrong place by default is, of course, unacceptable. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fermatas in 2010
David W. Fenton wrote: I've always wondered why the default fermata articulation has over/under definitions. I've never seen a score that puts the fermata anywhere but OVER the staff, and always have to change this when I end up with a file that uses the defaults. This has always struck me as one of the places where the Finale defaults are just wrong. When there are two separate parts on a staff (soprano-alto, tenor-bass) you always put the fermata both over and under the music. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fermatas in 2010
At 5:45 PM -0400 6/14/09, Christopher Smith wrote: Yes, same thing for marcatos, that have only ever been inverted V's OVER the staff until Finale made non-inverted (verted?) V's under the staff the norm when stems are up. I have no proof, but I think Finale invented that one. Not so. Roemer gives accents and other articulations on the notehead side as the traditional method (p. 37), but recommends placing them all above the staff so they don't jump around (pp. 37-38), which I believe has become standard for a lot of jazz arrangers. But that suggests that the question goes back at least to '73 (the copyright date in my copy), and was not invented by Finale. The word tuplet, on the other hand, ... John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fermatas in 2010
On Jun 14, 2009, at 6:26 PM, John Howell wrote: At 5:45 PM -0400 6/14/09, Christopher Smith wrote: Yes, same thing for marcatos, that have only ever been inverted V's OVER the staff until Finale made non-inverted (verted?) V's under the staff the norm when stems are up. I have no proof, but I think Finale invented that one. Not so. Roemer gives accents and other articulations on the notehead side as the traditional method (p. 37), but recommends placing them all above the staff so they don't jump around (pp. 37-38), which I believe has become standard for a lot of jazz arrangers. But that suggests that the question goes back at least to '73 (the copyright date in my copy), and was not invented by Finale. The word tuplet, on the other hand, ... Oh yeah, there it is (page 30 in my copy). Also Stone says the same thing. Where did I get the convention of keeping marcatos above the note, even if other articulations are below? I know I didn't invent it. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fermatas in 2010
On 14 Jun 2009 at 23:55, Barbara Touburg wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: I've always wondered why the default fermata articulation has over/under definitions. I've never seen a score that puts the fermata anywhere but OVER the staff, and always have to change this when I end up with a file that uses the defaults. This has always struck me as one of the places where the Finale defaults are just wrong. When there are two separate parts on a staff (soprano-alto, tenor-bass) you always put the fermata both over and under the music. Fine. In that rare situation, you create a fermata for that. In the 18 years I've used Finale, the number of times I've never encountered that situation could be counted on the fingers of one hand. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fermatas in 2010
Shows up in choral music a lot. Not rare in my work. David W. Fenton lists.fin...@dfenton.com wrote: On 14 Jun 2009 at 23:55, Barbara Touburg wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: I've always wondered why the default fermata articulation has over/under definitions. I've never seen a score that puts the fermata anywhere but OVER the staff, and always have to change this when I end up with a file that uses the defaults. This has always struck me as one of the places where the Finale defaults are just wrong. When there are two separate parts on a staff (soprano-alto, tenor-bass) you always put the fermata both over and under the music. Fine. In that rare situation, you create a fermata for that. In the 18 years I've used Finale, the number of times I've never encountered that situation could be counted on the fingers of one hand. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
