[Finale] How do I get this?

[Andrew Levin]

Hi, all,

I’ve looked in the documentation and did a Google search and can’t figure out 
how get this<http://symph.people.clemson.edu/unison.jpg> — specifically, the 
unison on the first note.

It’s from 1904 and the notation is very clear in what means. Since I have you 
all here, is there a more contemporary way of notating this?

Thanks!

Andrew Levin
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Re: [Finale] TG Tools Fit Measures tool glitch (Michael Wittenburg)

[Andrew Levin]

Michael,

I’ve had this problem for a few years, across the last couple of Mac OS’s and 
versions of Finale. I thought it was better, but I was bit by it a few days ago.

I’m afraid traveling right now, so I don’t have access to give more 
particulars. But I at least wanted to chime in. It’s what I want to use more 
than anything else in TGTools, but I can’t always rely on it.

Andrew Levin

Sent from m'iPad

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Re: [Finale] Finale Digest, Vol 165, Issue 7

[Andrew Levin]

On Sunday, April 16, a wonderful day in Clemson, 
finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote:

From: Raymond Horton >
Subject: Re: [Finale] Problems emailing musx files
Date: April 15, 2017 at 10:58:21 PM EDT
To: >


I have sent and received musx files with no problem

Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016

Hi, Ray,

Thanks for writing.

It’s not just emailing that’s the problem, but emailing through Clemson’s 
particular flavor of Exchange or Office365 that puts up red flags. Our IT 
people are going to bat for me — we’ll see what happens.

Andrew
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[Finale] Problems emailing musx files

[Andrew Levin]

Hi, all,

Does anyone have trouble emailing musx files? In recent months, some colleagues 
of mine at the university and I are having trouble sending musx files via 
email. The email goes through, but with the musx file stripped off. A note from 
Postmaster accompanies this:

===

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. Your email 
message was not delivered as is to the intended recipients because malware was 
detected in one or more attachments included with it. All attachments were 
deleted.

--- Additional Information ---:

Subject: Re: Messaging: Problem with .musx file attachments ISSUE=244251 PROJ=34
Sender: ale...@clemson.edu<mailto:ale...@clemson.edu>

Time received: 4/5/2017 6:01:55 
PM<http://airmail.calendar/2017-04-05%2018:01:55%20EDT>
Message 
ID:<etpan.58e53112.75495ca2.9...@clemson.edu<mailto:etpan.58e53112.75495ca2.9...@clemson.edu>>
Detections found:
exam.zip jar

==

I asked the university IT folks if we can just allow the musx file to go 
through, to make an exception with this file type. It came back that it’s not 
the file type, but "the issue does not seem to be the file extension, but the 
META-INF portions of the file being seen as java executables. I will submit a 
ticket to Microsoft about this mis-identification.”

So we wait, and I can’t send musx files as attachments. Zipping doesn’t help. I 
tried sending the file from a different email account, but to no avail.

MakeMusic support suggests export the file to Music XML, but for some work I 
need it to appear exactly as I have worked it out in the Finale file.

Has anyone else had this problem? Found a solution? Thanks in advance for your 
help.

(Note: I’m on the digest, so I’d appreciate if you can also reply to me 
directly).


Dr. Andrew Levin
Conductor, CU Symphony Orchestra
Associate Professor of Music
Clemson University
864-506-2344
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[Finale] Printer question

[Andrew Levin]

Hi, all,

I have a general question about printers:

My old HP 4000N is finally seeing its last days. It’s been a great workhorse 
for a long time. I originally paid about $1300, and I recall needing/wanting 
Postscript printing for Finale, networking for my home network, monochrome 
(color might be fun but I don’t have a regular need for it), laser printing, 
and decent resolution (600x600). I’ll print maybe 100-200 pages a week at most.

My needs are modest — letter and legal size, decent speed, decent output (I’m 
not a publisher). I don’t need Postscript for Finale, right? I can add a new 
printer to my network via USB and share it with my son’s computer (we’re an 
Apple household) or even make it available wirelessly. Resolution and print 
speed seem to match or exceed my trusty HP. The new printers even provide the 
ability to print from my mobile devices which, though not necessary, is handy; 
and at less than $100, the price is right.

Am I missing something? Can these inexpensive printers satisfy my needs? I’ve 
seen the output and print speed and I’m pretty impressed. If I did spend more 
money, what more would I get for it?

My priority is getting a printer for Finale (thus my query to the Finale List). 
Thanks in advance for your comments.

Andrew Levin

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Re: [Finale] Locked systems

[Andrew Levin]

Hi all

Just to state the obvious, when moving measures that affect systems 10 and 11 
and you do an update layout, you must do so at least from the page that 
contains system 10. Update layout doesn't work globally but only from the 
current location forward. 

Andrew Levin

 Often, when I move systems​, the file fails to update and shows one system
 in two places at once. Alt-U doesn't help.

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Re: [Finale] Converting Fin's AIFF to mp3

[Andrew Levin]

If you use a Mac this does wonders. Converts using the iTunes engine but never 
puts the files actually into iTunes. Easy to use.

http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/ss.php?sp=dropafewmyway

Andrew Levin
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Re: [Finale] Finale Compatibility for Mavericks

[Andrew Levin]

I don't know specifically about Finale and Mavericks, but for all you Mac users 
out there, visit roaringapps.com for a one-stop location to check compatibility 
of your apps with various recent Mac OS's.

(The column regarding Finale products and Mavericks is blank -- there must not 
be any reports yet).

Andrew Levin

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Re: [Finale] Finale Compatability question (Martin Banner)

[Andrew Levin]

 1. Finale Compatability question (Martin Banner)

From: Martin Banner mbanner...@aol.commailto:mbanner...@aol.com
Subject: [Finale] Finale Compatability question
Date: October 14, 2013 12:38:30 PM EDT
To: Finale finale@shsu.edumailto:finale@shsu.edu
Reply-To: finale@shsu.edumailto:finale@shsu.edu

Martin wrote:
I currently use an older iMac running on OS 10.5.8. I connect my synthesizer to 
my Mac with an older M-Audio USB Midisport 2x2 midi interface, and generally 
use Finale 2008 (although I do have, and sporadically use, finale 2012).

will my current midi interface work with the a current OS on an iMac?

I have a 2009 iMac running Mac OS 10.8.5 and my M-Audio USB Midisport 2x2 works 
just fine with it. I use Finale 2012.

Andrew Levin
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[Finale] Is there a tool/plug-in for this?

[Andrew Levin]

Hi, all,

I have some faint recollection of method for editing that paid very little 
attention to when I first came across it, and now that I need this 
functionality I can't find it in the documentation.

Specifically I have an arrangement of Schubert's Ave Maria that I want to 
alter. Specifically, the inner voices are eighth-rest followed by five eighth 
notes, all in eighth-note triplets. I want to change lots of the notes. I could:

1) drag notes to their new positions
2) erase and start again (I don't want to have to recreate the rhythms again 
for so many measures)

I have some recollection of a process that marries a given rhythm with other 
notes. Can some tell me if I'm imagining this, and if not, where I might find 
it in the documentation?

Thanks!

Andrew
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[Finale] Re: stuck metatool key - found a clue

[Andrew Levin]

Jeff wrote:

i discovered i can create the stuck metatool key problem in a very
specific instance.

after running an iKey script (cmd-g for Go to page), i get the
problem with whatever metatool is assigned to g (articulation,
expression).

i haven't been able to reproduce it for any other key, but am
starting to notice that t and a are also common victims of this
bug.  has anyone else noticed any consistency in the keys that get
stuck?  i'm now convinced it is not a random thing and am wondering
if maybe there is something in a particular menu that is causing this
problem.

I don't know if this will help. I don't even use iKey. But I periodically get 
stuck metatools, across many metatools. And no matter what key I strike, always 
the same articulation, or expression, or whatever, displays.

Quitting Finale doesn't work. Even restarting the computer won't work (I'm on 
Mac). I find only shutting down the computer and starting up again fixes it.

This bug bit me again last week, though it had shied away for so long. This is 
my (not good) solution.

Andrew Levin
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[Finale] Re: stuck metatool key - found a clue

[Andrew Levin]

Steve wrote:

hey andrew.  i don't think i have ever had the thing reappear after
quitting finale!  that definitely sux.

It doesn't for a long while, but then it will again.

not a real solution, but have you tried my technique of running
fingers / hands up and down the keyboard several times? others
reported this works.  once you know which one it is you can usually
press it several times in a row to unstick it.

I did try it, to no avail. But maybe I didn't do it right or say the right 
incantations.   :-)

next time you notice it, try to remember if there was some command,
some editing sequence or something you did right before it.  maybe we
can locate the damn thing…

I will try to be more observant.

you haven't noticed any consistency in the key(s) that get stuck then?

I can never peg *which* key is stuck. No matter which key I strike I get the 
same metatool. Argh.

Andrew
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[Finale] Mountain Lion and Quickeys?

[Andrew Levin]

Hello, everyone,

I'm finally considering moving up to Mac OS 10.8, Mountain Lion. But as I 
peruse RoaringApps for application compatibility I'm very hesitant to take the 
plunge. Filemaker 11, SplashID Safe, iWeb, Band-in-a-Box, and Bamboo (Wacom) 
all note problems, and Appigo's ToDo and JABMenu are questionable. And now I've 
read that Quickeys is not entirely compatible.

I don't mean to start a platform discussion. For now I'd like to know if anyone 
using Quickeys with Mountain Lion is having any problems. I'm assuming that 
Finale 2012c is working just fine with the new OS.

(Argh! I finally found my Quicken replacement, and now this).

Thanks!

Andrew Levin
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Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012

[Andrew Levin]

Lee wrote:
Maybe the Fit Music facility built into Finale will work for you.  You can
find it under the Utilities menu, or Mass Mover for older version of
Finale.

Ahh, *that* Fit Music!

Actually, I don't use that one because it doesn't do what Tobias's does. With 
his you can select, say, 100 measures and tell the plugin to spread that music 
over 13 systems, or 15 systems, or whatever. It'll do that, and space it evenly 
across the given systems.

The beauty of it is that it doesn't matter if measures have lots of notes or 
few notes: it'll all be evenly spaced across systems. With the built-in Finale 
Fit Measures you have to pick a number of measures per line and go with that -- 
which is problematic if some measures have, say, 16 16th notes and some have 
whole notes.

My problem with TGTools recently is that it hasn't always spaced evenly across 
the systems like it was supposed to (going back to 2011). That was my initial 
query.

Andrew
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Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012

[Andrew Levin]

Hi, all,

I just enabled TGTools Lite, which came with Finale 2012. There *is* no Fit 
Music command in this mini-plugin. Does it exist for someone else out there in 
FinaleLand?

Andrew Levin
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Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012

[Andrew Levin]

Lee Wrote:
There is a Fit Measures TGTool, as well as a function of the same name
(and similar capabilities) built into Finale.  Are you both referring to the
same thing?

I'm referring to the the Fit Music that's part of the full, purchased TGTools. 
That's what gives me trouble. Since I removed the original TGTools (Lite?) so 
there's be no conflict with the full version, I'll have to switch them out to 
try this.

Does anyone run both versions simultaneously, without problems?

Andrew Levin

iMac
OS X 10.7.5
Finale 2012b
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Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012

[Andrew Levin]

By far the TGTool that I use the most is Fit Music, where you can highlight 
whatever section of the music you want and tell Finale to fit it into X number 
of systems. I use this for virtually every piece I work on.

Or almost all…

In 2011 and now 2012 it seems broken. Sometimes it just doesn't space music 
evenly, cramming some systems full of music and leaving others pretty sparse. 
Sometimes re-doing the command fixes it, but more often not. If it doesn't fit 
in, say 17 systems, I'll try 16 or 18 -- sometimes it works, sometimes not. 
VERY frustrating..

Does anyone else run into this problem? I haven't seen mention of it, and I 
can't imagine being the only one.

Andrew Levin
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[Finale] Finale Numerics issues

[Andrew Levin]

Hi, all,

I was about to write about all of my problems with the Finale Numerics font 
when, lo and behold, the 2012b update seems to have fixed them. But I still 
have two issues with the font that I wanted to share, to see if anyone else has 
the same issues I have. I plan to submit them as a feature request.

Note that these are requests of a music theory teacher. You may not need these 
changes.

1) There is no lower case m in the new font. This is important when doing a 
roman numeral analysis. The first thing to do is to note the key, followed by 
the roman numerals. For minor keys I strongly prefer Am to a for A minor. 
You can't do this in the Finale Numerics font. You have to either do the key as 
an expression, or do it as a lyric, but by changing the font. A pain. And I 
don't see that MakeMusic will change it, as all slots for the letter M are 
now taken.

2) The capital I and V are not as they appear when writing by hand. Imagine 
yourself writing by hand a IV chord: you do the capital I and the capital V, 
then draw a horizontal line at the top and bottom of this figure. That helps it 
stand out in comparison with the lower case numbers. But it's also problematic 
in another way: students see the IV in print (in my exercises) and then write 
it that way, without the top and bottom bars. Oh, sure, I'll tell them to make 
sure to put in the bars, but I'm not providing a very good example for them.

Anyone else bothered by these?

Andrew Levin
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Re: [Finale] MakeMusic tip of the day

[Andrew Levin]

Mark McCarron wrote:
the tile command puts one window on the top half and the other window on the 
bottom half. Is there a quick way to position one window on the left and the 
other window on the right?

I respond:
On Mac there's Moom, a great shareware utility. You can do side by side, top to 
bottom, and even pre-define different window size combinations. It's quite 
handy to have, in a number of settings. It works with all apps.

http://manytricks.com/moom/

(Get the version from the website, not the Mac App Store, since the latter has 
limitations due to Apple's new sandboxing policy).

On sale for just $5 right now.

Andrew Levin

PS - I have no connection with this company except as a user
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2013

[Andrew Levin]

Justin,

You wrote in your blog that Finale 2012b would include:

popular feature requests, bug fixes, and entirely new features, too.

Could you give us any information on what those might be? I'm on Finale 2011 
and decided to wait for 2013. Now that that will be a year away I might 
consider getting 2012, provided the extras in 2012b are worth it (considering 
my needs).

The problem is, your upgrade price is good only through June 15. Will you be 
releasing more information before then? I won't upgrade without more 
information, but I don't want to lose out on the discount, either.

Thanks.

Andrew Levin
Finale user since 1991
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[Finale] Bizarre articulation/expression symptoms

[Andrew Levin]

Hello, all,

Weird stuff is happening here and I'd appreciate your thoughts.

While in Finale 2011c (Mac) on a file I've been working on for a few days, when 
opening the file I've been working on, I can't add articulations or 
expressions. The cursor changes to the cross-hairs with the little note, 
telling me that FInale is aware of where the cursor is, but clicking produces 
no response. (And I am in the correct layer).

Now, clicking on existing articulations or expressions brings up the 
appropriate dialog box, but I can't make new ones.

Here's my setup:

SCHOOL
New iMac 27
Mac OS 10.7.2

HOME
Older iMac 27
Mac OS 10.7.2

I shuttle the file back and forth via Dropbox, but that hasn't been problematic 
in the past. 

All was working fine at home, but when I got to school yesterday it exhibited 
these symptoms. After lots of fussing around, including trashing Finale 2011 
Preferences and com.MakeMusic.Finale.plist from my userLibraryPreferences 
folder, and also reinstalling my default files, somehow I got it to work again. 
Then when home today, opening up the file on Dropbox, what previously worked at 
home is now not working. And none of my tricks from yesterday at school are 
working at home. Arrgghhh!!

Interestingly, I can VPN to school from home and work on the file, but it's WAY 
too slow. At this point I'm going to go to school to work, but I'll check my 
email for solutions from your collective experience, because I, of course, have 
to be able to work from home, too.

I'm fairly new to Lion (a week or so ago), so I don't know if that's coming 
into play here. I don't know what else to do.

Any thoughts?

Andrew Levin

PS - I'm on the digest, so if you reply could you also copy to me directly? 
Thanks. (ale...@clemson.edu)
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Re: [Finale] [FInale] Bizarre articulation/expression symptoms

[Andrew Levin]

Thanks, Steve,

You've pointed me in the right direction. But no luck yet.

It does seem to be related to metatools. I seem to be able to program them, but 
not to execute them.

I held down each metatool in turn (for expressions and articulations) and 
clicked 25 times on each. Then quit and restarted. No change.

Here's another oddity:

EXPRESSION TOOL: Some metatools work, and some don't. When I click on, say, 
shift-1, the dialog box comes up and says I already have an expression set for 
1. But when I attempt to use it I get nothing. But others work.

ARTICULATION TOOL: when I simply click on any note I get the same articulation 
(dot-dash). When I use metatools, some work, some don't. Specifically, the 
entire top row gives me a dot-dash; in the second row, everything from W to the 
right; in the third row, everything from J to the right; and in the fourth row, 
everything from N to the right. But in no case can I get the dialog box (for 
either tool) to come up to make a selection.

So, how does one find the offending metatool? Just keep mashing away? 
Arrgg! I'm a 20-year user of Finale and, while it hasn't been frustration 
free, I've never run across something like this.

Any other ideas, anyone?

Andrew Levin

(Again, please copy any messages to ale...@clemson.edu)


 From: Fiskum, Steve fisk...@jspaluch.com
 Subject: Re: [Finale] Bizarre articulation/expression symptoms
 Date: October 28, 2011 11:59:00 AM EDT
 To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu
 Cc: Andrew Levin ale...@clemson.edu
 Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu
 
 
 Hello Andrew,
 
 This sounds similar to stuck metatools bug. What happens is that Finale
 will somewhat randomly stick metatools like the number 1 or the letters c or
 i (my common ones). If you do not have anything assigned to those metatools
 when you click on a note, the results are as you have described and nothing
 gets placed. 
 
 There really is no permanent fix for this bug. The temporary fix is to find
 the problematic meta tool and strike the key several times to release it
 (5-20 times depending on my frustration and frequency of this bug) or quit
 and restart Finale.
 
 This bug affects all metatools in all tools and is program wide so when you
 have a virtual stuck key while in the Articulation tool this same stuck
 key will be stuck in the Expression tool and Smart Shape tool. It's a real
 PITA. This is not a hardware problem. I've tried different keyboards,
 desktops, and laptops.
 
 Please note that while testing for this bug I've gone through the OS to see
 if the same key is stuck in any other programs while Finale has it stuck and
 it is not. This is a Finale, Mac, OS 10.6-10.7 FIN10, FIN11, FIN12 issue.
 I've been documenting this bug for a while and on many different machines
 but just cannot come up with a reason as to when or why it occurs.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Steve
 
 
 
 From: Andrew Levin ale...@clemson.edu
 Subject: [Finale] Bizarre articulation/expression symptoms
 Date: October 28, 2011 11:19:11 AM EDT
 To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu
 Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu
 
 
 Hello, all,
 
 Weird stuff is happening here and I'd appreciate your thoughts.
 
 While in Finale 2011c (Mac) on a file I've been working on for a few days, 
 when opening the file I've been working on, I can't add articulations or 
 expressions. The cursor changes to the cross-hairs with the little note, 
 telling me that FInale is aware of where the cursor is, but clicking 
 produces no response. (And I am in the correct layer).
 
 Now, clicking on existing articulations or expressions brings up the 
 appropriate dialog box, but I can't make new ones.
 
 Here's my setup:
 
 SCHOOL
 New iMac 27
 Mac OS 10.7.2
 
 HOME
 Older iMac 27
 Mac OS 10.7.2
 
 I shuttle the file back and forth via Dropbox, but that hasn't been 
 problematic in the past. 
 
 All was working fine at home, but when I got to school yesterday it 
 exhibited these symptoms. After lots of fussing around, including trashing 
 Finale 2011 Preferences and com.MakeMusic.Finale.plist from my 
 userLibraryPreferences folder, and also reinstalling my default files, 
 somehow I got it to work again. Then when home today, opening up the file on 
 Dropbox, what previously worked at home is now not working. And none of my 
 tricks from yesterday at school are working at home. Arrgghhh!!
 
 Interestingly, I can VPN to school from home and work on the file, but it's 
 WAY too slow. At this point I'm going to go to school to work, but I'll 
 check my email for solutions from your collective experience, because I, of 
 course, have to be able to work from home, too.
 
 I'm fairly new to Lion (a week or so ago), so I don't know if that's coming 
 into play here. I don't know what else to do.
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Andrew Levin
 
 PS - I'm on the digest, so if you reply could you also copy to me directly? 
 Thanks. (ale...@clemson.edu)
 
 
 

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Re: [Finale] Bizarre articulation/expression symptoms - SOLVED

[Andrew Levin]

Hi, all,

Sorry for the bandwidth. I feel like such a dolt! All I had to do was to 
restart my machine and it all worked fine again. (Not to mention that I 
recommend this course of action all the time when weird things start happening 
to friends' computers).

Just a few minutes ago I remembered that I came home yesterday to blinking 
alarm clocks and a blank microwave display -- the power had gone out. Then I 
realized that there could be a connection between the two.

I still find it odd that I had the same problem on two different computers (in 
two different locations) a day apart, but I'll chalk that up to, uh, I don't 
know.

Thanks again, Steve, for your help. Maybe it'll come in handy another time.

Andrew
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[Finale] O.T. 18th century notation question

[Andrew Levin]

Patrick wrote:

I have a question about an Ordonez symphony source. There is a squiggly line
above two notes, almost like a tie, but it's not.

===

Ooh ooh, I know this one!

It's the equivalent of a slur over staccato. Source: Clive Brown's
*Classical and Romantic Performing Practice, 1750-1900

Andrew Levin
(Who is working on a similarly-dated concerto from manuscript)

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[Finale] TAN: Visiting Dresden. Any natives?

[Andrew Levin]

Greetings, everyone,

(And my apologies for the cross-posting).

I have the pleasure of getting to visit and do some research in Dresden this
summer; specifically, from July 6 to 13. I'll be spending most of my time at
the Sachsische Landesbibliothek - Staats- und Universitatsbibliothek
Dresden, gathering information related to Joseph Schubert's Viola Concerto
in E-flat Major, for a publication with A-R Editions.

I'm writing to ask, first, if anyone has spent any time at that library. I
have some questions I'd like to ask.

Also, does anyone recommend any particular activities when in town?
Unfortunately, the opera and symphony seasons will have just ended, but
certainly there will be other things going on, places to visit, etc. I'm
thinking of taking a day trip to Leipzig while there, too.

I'm open to all ideas: musical, cultural and epicurean. I'm staying in town
and hope to get proficient with public transportation and/or walk a lot.

Thanks for any help!

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Re: [Finale] String and woodwind versions

[Andrew Levin]

Henry asked:
 Does anyone know of a piece that was for strings or winds that was re-cast for
 the other ensemble by the composer? The time period is 1740-1830.

Mozart's Cm wind serenade was recast by him as a string quintet (and lost a
lot in the translation). Sorry I don't have K numbers, but it should be easy
enough to find. (And the original had 2 horns -- not *exactly* woodwinds).

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RE: SPAM LOW: Re: [Finale] [OT] keyboard and mouse dying / suggestions for new devices?

[Andrew Levin]

Darcy wrote:
 I really love Apple's Magic Trackpad

Do you use any third party software to enable other features, or do you use
it straight up with Apple's control panel? I've read about some other
programs that broaden what the Magic Trackpad can do, though I wonder if I'd
be able to remember all of the those gestures, etc.

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Re: [Finale] [OT] plural of rubato = rubati?

[Andrew Levin]

Darcy wrote:
 Even 20 years ago, celli was not uncommon

It was about twenty years ago (OK, 30) that I played under a conductor for
whom English was *not* his first language, though he was quite competent in
it. 

He would often look to his right and ask something of the cellis.

:-)

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Re: [Finale] Arrgghh! Default file location problems.

[Andrew Levin]

Darcy wrote:
Yes, but re-creating your default file from scratch in each new version is
actually a good idea. It's a huge pain, of course, but it ensures that there
are no conversion artifacts.

I respond:
That's what I did. Started fresh with the original Maestro Font Default from
Finale 2011 (although at this point I don't remember which one from it's
many locations). 

I have some templates in the template folder in my user folder's Music
Files, and Finale reads them just fine. But it won't find my default file.

Arrgghh!

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[Finale] Arrgghh! Default file location problems.

[Andrew Levin]

Hi, all.

I can *swear* I'm doing everything right, and yet I'm stifled. When pressing
command-N for a new document Finale tells me that it can't find the Maestro
Font Default file and will create a new one. First, my specs:

MacPro Dual Core 2 GHz
MacOS 10.6.6
Finale 2011c.r1

I went to:

user/Library/Application Support/MakeMusic/Finale 2011/Music Files/Default
Files

And changed Maestro Font Default to Maestro Font Default.orig, then
placed my new and improved Maestro Font Default in its place. It's the
original default file with lots of small changes (and it opens just fine
when I double click on it in the Finder).

Under Program options I've selected the folder listed above. I've restarted
many times. I've also deleted the folder entirely, placed my new files in
the harddrive path to the same files, then used MakeMusic's supplied
Terminal app to move files from there to my own user folder (as I tried by
hand earlier). After resetting the Program Options again to look in the
Default Files in the user path and restarting, still no luck. I even
pointed to harddrive path. Still no luck.

What am I missing?

I know people have offered solutions to this in the past, but my set-up was
working, so didn't pay attention.

I would appreciate any help that could be given. (I'm also on the digest, so
my replies might take day).

Thank you.

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Re: [Finale] TAN: Mac Finder question

[Andrew Levin]

Jari asked:

 3. In Mac OS9 there was a UI feature to just display the caption bar of
 the windows. Is there any equivalent on OSX?

I use WindowShade from Unsanity (http://unsanity.com/haxies/wsx), which does
just what you ask for, and more. Some people say the software behaves in
improper ways and causes system instabilities, but I've never had problems.
And I *love* it. I couldn't work without it.

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[Finale] Export to MP3 in Finale 2011? and clef question.

[Andrew Levin]

Hello, all,

I finally bit the bullet and upgraded Finale 2011 from 2009. Pardon me if
you've already covered this, but I can't find an export to MP3 option. I'm
perfectly capable of converting an AIFF or WAV file to MP3, but I'd like the
convenience of one-stop shopping with this feature. The Finale website notes
MP3 capability, but only available with SmartMusic Sound Font only. What
does this mean?

Arrggh!

While I'm at it let me also ask another question: is it possible with Finale
2011 to place a clef *after* a barline, but before a forced time and key
signature? I need this for theory assignments and exams. Thanks!

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[Finale] Re: OT: recommend database software?

[Andrew Levin]

And if you have an iPhone/iPod touch, you can get a version of Bento for
that as well, VERY inexpensively, and it syncs with the desktop version (or
so the literature says; I don't have it.).

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[Finale] OT: Telemann's Klingenden Geographie

[Andrew Levin]

Hello, all,

Since there seems to be more than a little Telemann expertise on this list I
thought I'd ask my question, too.

Can anyone help me find original source materials (MsS, etc) for Telemann's
Klindenden Geographie? I know there's a Hoffmann edition available via
Lucks, but I'd like to go back to original sources, if possible. For those
of you who don't know this suite, it's a collection of 30 something
movements describing in musical terms various countries of the world,
starting close in and working further out (to Afrika, then finally Amerika,
the Hope of the Mississippi). It's mostly for strings and is quite engaging,
often painting a dual portrait of a country, both old and new.

I have a possible research and recording project in line and given that I've
been out of the musicological research mode for some time I would appreciate
help in finding sources.

The above is a mid or later work. It is perhaps based on a much earlier work
Singenden Geographie (maybe misattributed?), hopefully with words? Again,
what searching I've done hasn't yielded any original sources, so any help
with that would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

Now back to your regular Finale programming.

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[Finale] OT: chord symbol texts?

[Andrew Levin]

Hello,

In all of this discussion about chord symbols I realize that I have the
perfect audience for my question. I'm about to start teaching theory again
at our school and I'm still looking for the perfect textbook (yeah, I know:
no such thing exists).

Our program is unusual in that we're not producing performers or teachers,
but people who'll work in the performing arts field behind the scenes, in
music business, technical theatre, box office, sound, lighting, etc. (If you
are interested, see http://www.clemson.edu/Perf-Arts/ for more information).
Our theory program consists of a Fundamentals class, then one year of theory
(the former, or passing a placement exam, is required for entry into the
latter).

This is a combination written and aural skills class and meets five days a
week. But it makes no sense for our students to have the classical training
of part-writing and figured bass, as much as I love that and use those
skills. We need to include chord symbols, their usage, perhaps some
improvisation and elementary song-writing/composition, in addition to
scales, common practice harmony, sight-singing and dictation.

Yeah, I know -- there's too much to cover in so short a time. But in
preparation for this class I'd love to know if any of you have experience
with any textbooks or (university) theory websites that you've found useful
and successful. I do know that we bought Auralia recently and are using it,
so if any of you are familiar with that and want to address it I'm all ears.

I'm also happy to hear all of this privately if some of you consider this
inappropriate for the list.

Thanks in advance for your comments.

Andrew Levin
(who is on the digest)

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[Finale] Rehearsal measure numbers

[Andrew Levin]

Collective wisdom,

I can't seem to find an elegant way to do this:

(Mac OS 10.5.5, Finale 2009b)

I'd like to have rehearsal markings that are measure numbers, that are
enclosed, and that have the functionality of the newly-named score list (top
line of the score, all parts).

I know I can do this as an expression, but I like clicking on a measure
(with the measure tool) and having the correct measure number show up.
Here's what I go through (I'm working on a string quartet):

1. Opt-shift a measure: inserts measure numbers on all staves
(though oddly, only the top one is enclosed)
2. Select handles of the lower three numbers, then
a. Double-click handle to assign enclosure
b. Right-click to Unlink in All Parts
c. Right-click to Show/Hide Based on Region

Using expressions -- create one once, then duplicate and edit actual measure
numbers -- is much simpler. But is there an even simpler way?

(Of course, it probably took me longer to write this email than to have gone
through the entire score creating measure number rehearsal marks using
Expressions, but I'm thinking of my next project).

Thanks!

Andrew Levin 

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[Finale] Measure number follow-up

[Andrew Levin]

Hello, again,

In experimenting I've noticed that when I create an enclosure for a measure
number rehearsal marking, they come out looking differently when doing it as
an Expression compared with doing it with the Measure tool. Specifically, my
ellipse is more circular with the former, and more elliptical in the latter.
And this is with the same settings (see below).

The thing is, using Expressions is the simpler way of doing things, but I
like the flatter ellipse of the Measure tool method. So my question is, can
anyone else replicate this, and should this go to Make Music (and be put
*below* the very lowest feature request on their list!?!)?

Here are my settings:

Shape: ellipse
Opaque (not checked)
Line thickness: 3.5
Height: 36 
Width: 36 
(the other two items are zeros)
Enforce minimum width
Fixed enclosure size (not checked)

Thanks.

Andrew Levin

PS - I'm on the digest, so I'd appreciate being copied directly when replied
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[Finale] PDFtoMusic

[Andrew Levin]

David Fenton, and others,

I, too, have used PDFtoMusic, the free version, to work with files purchase
online. One page at a time is OK, and I use Finale to make a score from
individual files.

However, and this make be a deal-breaker for David Fenton, when you are done
you export the converted music as a music XML file, which you can open in
Finale, but only in more recent versions.

You can also export to bmp, aif, wav, and mid, but these (with the possible
exception of mid) aren't useful for David's needs.

And am I the only one who sees a HUGE disparity between the free
one-page-at-a-time free version and $199 for the full version? I'm
interested in the app, but not $199 interested!

Andrew Levin

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[Finale] Adding second expression

[Andrew Levin]

Bug or feature?

(Mac OS 10.5.4, Finale 2009, Mac Pro)

I've already entered an expression to all parts in a score. Now I want to
drag enclose the same notes and add an mf dynamic, using a metatool.
However, it won't be placed. But if I click on each individual note with the
metatool it *will* go in.

I couldn't find anything in the documentation addressing this.

Am I missing something?

Andrew
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[Finale] FinaleScript documentation?

[Andrew Levin]

Does anyone know if the new FinaleScript has any kind of documentation? I
really wanted to use the original FinaleScript but never got past the very
basic functions because I just couldn't figure it out (I don't have a mind
for programming).

And anytime someone asked the developer for documentation they always said
later. It would sure be nice to have some help in this area.

Andrew

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Re: [Finale] copying from existing file to make condensed scores

[Andrew Levin]

Patrick wrote:
 I am trying to finish a jazz chart, but am having major problems in making a
 condensed score.
 The full score is already finished, and I am making a condensed score at the
 music director's request.  This particular chart is a clarinet solo feature (a
 la Pete Fountain), and therefore the solo part is black with notes and instead
 of re-typing the solo part in all over again, I copied and pasted about 4 bars
 at a time.  Problem is, when I play back the condensed score, it'll always
 stick at the pre-process, and never play, so I have to end up shutting down
 the program.  I start all over again, and the same problems happens at some
 time or another.  Lots of wasted time and effort so far.  Any other ideas?  I
 don't know if I'm the only person this has happened to...

I had a similar problem, though not related to condensed scores. I started
out with a score of a certain length, then added measures. The playback
would always stop at the original stop point.

I fixed it by selecting all, then removing all MIDI data (in Fin2008 it
means selecting with the new selection tool, then Clear selected items
from the Edit menu, then choosing to remove just the MIDI data.

I hope this works for you.

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Re: [Finale] Cheap, easy notation apps?

[Andrew Levin]

 Harmony Assistant, $85.
 http://www.myriad-online.com/en/products/harmony.htm

I don't use this product, though I have used it's little sibling Melody
Assistant. One cool thing about both of these programs is that you can buy
an add-on called Virtual Singer that will do a fairly good job of
singing the text for you. And there's lots of customization, too
(intonation, languages, etc). It's not production quality, but it might be
useful for singers.

(Unless it's changed greatly in recent years, the GUI for Melody Assistant
is very awkward, but it does do the job. And compare it to Harmony Assistant
for features, since Melody Assistant might be a better -- and cheaper --
option).

And another plug: Myriad also makes a FABULOUS web picture gallery program
called Galerie. It's for Mac only and it's free! I've used it for a few
years now and I'm quite pleased with it.

(And no, I don't have any connection to this company).

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Re: [Finale] Problem with Help files on Mac, Finale 2008b

[Andrew Levin]

 I still can't get these [EMAIL PROTECTED] help files to work. I've 
 re-installed
 2008b, I've repaired disk permissions (as suggested by tech support),
 I've trashed the prefs again, I've trashed com.makemusic.Finale.plist...
 
 I still get the same error message: Unable to launch URL: Internet
 Config Error Code -43.
 
 What should I try next?

As a workaround until you find a real solution, you can do the following:

Go to your browser, select Open file (or whatever the command is that
allows you to select a local file), go to the Finale 2008b Help Files
folder, select  Finale_Left.htm, and go! After the help page opens in your
browser, bookmark it.

OK, so you'll have to open your browser *first*, but then you'll have your
documentation (you could also put an alias of that bookmark on the desktop
or somewhere else convenient, or even make an Automator action of it).

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[Finale] It ends before it's over!

[Andrew Levin]

Hi, all,

Mac G5 dual 2.0 GHz
Mac OS 10.5.3
Finale 2008b

I have an odd problem. When playing back a file it stops midway through.

Background: this was original a quadruple meter piece that I'm converting to
a waltz. I first changed the meter from 4/4 to 2/4, then from 2/4 to 3/4
(without rebarring the music). I then added notes to fill out the music.
Then went I went to play it it slowed down right in the middle, then
stopped.

It is apparently ending playback at the same number of beats into the piece
that the original piece was long.

I removed the ritardando by clearing MIDI data, but I still can't convince
playback that there's more music to play!

Any ideas?

Thanks.

Andrew Levin

PS - I'm on the digest, so if anyone has an answer I'd appreciate cc'ing me
directly, too.

PPS - Regarding another post of mine a few weeks ago (that nobody responded
to), Leopard has a new trick for Finale: you can create a shortcut (I use
QuicKeys) to bring up the Print dialog box, then pull up the Save as PDF
dialog box, then click OK. It's a great time saver!

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[Finale] PDF's and Mac Leopard

[Andrew Levin]

Mac users,

I still use Tiger, though I'm considering upgrading to Leopard. Then I read
the following, which really interested me and wondered if anyone has taken
advantage of it.

Apparently you can now assign a keyboard command to items in the PDF
pull-down menu in the Print dialog box. That means it can now be included in
at least a macro program (and Finalescript?). In any case, we've all
bemoaned that there was no easy way to say Make PDF's of all of these
Finale files without lording over every step. Now it seems that you can
invoke a macro and walk away.

Has anyone done this?

Andrew Levin

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Re: [Finale] OT - Recorder

[Andrew Levin]

I'm interested in this recorder discussion, too, though there's something
that I haven't heard discussed.

I have a small Olympic recorder. Nice machine for catching my son's voice,
etc, but hits a wall when a full orchestra plays Tchaikovsky. Clips the loud
parts. With all of the recorders mentioned can you set input levels? Or do
they have built-in compressors (is that what they're called? Where it boosts
quiet spots and limits loud parts -- in effect, leveling off the music) or
will you really hear the full dynamic range of what you are recording?

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[Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 55, Issue 14

[Andrew Levin]

 The version of Band in a Box for Macintosh is 5 versions behind the PC
 one (2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, and now 2008). Plus, it is not universal
 binary (last I checked).
 
 On your G5 Mac, you don't really have an option other than BinaB Mac version.
 
 On an Intel Mac, you can run BinaB 2008 with Boot Camp, or even under
 Parallels. I have this running on my iMac. Works fine. Garritan Jazz
 band works fine too (running under Windows of course). No stutters or
 anything.
 
 I'd say away from the Mac version of BinaB. The PC version is really
 light years ahead of the Mac version.

Eric,

Things have apparently changed. There's a new version for Mac, version 12. I
don't know how it compares to the most recent Windows version. In any case,
here's a transcript of a chat with their Live Help:

Evan: Welcome to PG Music's live help.  May we please have your first and
last name to better assist you?
you: YEs, I'm Andrew. I just bought the latest BIAB for Mac. Is it
universal? Can it run on an intel machine? If not, what are your plans for
that?
Evan: Yes, it can run on an intel machine
you: Thank you!
you: Oh, to clarify. Can it run as a Mac program on an Intel machine (as
opposed to running a Windows version in Boot Camp or a virtual OS)
Evan: yes
you: Thanks



I have very simple needs, so I'd rather just have a Mac version than fuss
with Windows on Intel (and buy another copy of Windows and Parallels for my
laptop).

Thanks for the help.

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[Finale] Band-in-a-Box and Mac/Intel/Windows

[Andrew Levin]

Greetings,

Recently someone mentioned using Band-in-a-Box within the Windows
environment on an Intel machine, using Garritan sounds as well. I didn't pay
much attention at the time, but now I have BIAB (for Mac).

Is there a reason to go Windows as opposed to straight-up Mac for this? Can
whoever posted this explain your set-up?

I have both a G5 and an Intel Mac.

Thanks.

Andrew Levin

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Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

[Andrew Levin]

I'm working on a project for A-R Editions. They're sticking with Finale 2006
because of bugs introduced in 2007.

Andrew Levin

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[Finale] Brahms and inspiration

[Andrew Levin]

David,

Regarding the Brahms quote, I think it's in this book:

Talks with Great Composers: Candid Conversations with Brahms, Puccini,
Strauss, and Others by Arthur M. Abell. New York: Carol Publishing Group,
Citadel Press, (1955), 1994, 182 pp. ISBN 0-8065-1565-1.

Very interesting reading, if you believe it (Brahms supposedly agreed to a
series of interviews shortly before his death with the stipulation that it
not be published until at least 50 years after his death). It deals with
inspiration, composing while in a semi-trance state, spirituality, etc.

A good read in any case.

Andrew Levin

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[Finale] Jari's review?

[Andrew Levin]

Greetings,

I've been following the discussion of the new Finale 2008, but what I
haven't yet seen is a reference to Jari's yearly in-depth review. Have I
missed it? It's not posted to his website.

Thanks.

Andrew Levin

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[Finale] Nucular football?

[Andrew Levin]

But the nucular pronunciation gets the letters in the wrong order,
while the on-velope is simply a holdover pronunciation from its
French origins (I would presume).

There are no English pronunciation rules that I know of that treat
the reversal of the letter sounds as correct in any case.


Brett Favre?
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[Finale] Music notation for the tablet PC?

[Andrew Levin]

Listers,

I have a violinist in my university orchestra who is a computer 
science major. He is interested in taking on a project of developing 
a music notation program for the tablet PC, where you handwrite the 
music onto the screen. Before getting too involved in the project he 
wanted to know if there already existed such a program.


I don't know if he wants to develop this as proof of concept or if he 
intends to develop a full product. *I* haven't heard of such a 
program so I thought I'd ask the experts!


(By the way, I'm one of those dinosaurs who uses the digest, so I'll 
be able to reply after 1 pm tomorrow!   :-)


Thanks for your input.

Andrew Levin
Clemson University
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[Finale] Two questions re: Fin2007

[Andrew Levin]

I have two questions about the new Finale I was hoping some early 
adopter might answer:


1)  Is there yet decent documentation for Finalescript? I've never 
found it thorough describing options, and it's hard for a 
non-programmning type like me to understand. There've been promises 
of better documentation for years.


2) I remember reading some promo literature for this release 
regarding the automatic formatting of parts being better. Of course, 
we all like to tweak what comes out, but there's tweaking and there's 
Tweaking. (This is something that Sibelius, I understand, has had 
over us Finale users for years).


Thanks!

Andrew Levin
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[Finale] The REAL Finale 2007 question

[Andrew Levin]

Yeah, updating parts, Intel support for Mac, horizontal scrolling... 
yada, yada, yada


The real question is, are we gonna get t-shirts again?

Andrew Levin
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[Finale] MP3 support in 2006?

[Andrew Levin]

Uh, I just noticed something that I hadn't noticed before: FinaleMac 
2006d doesn't have a save as MP3 like 2005 did. Am I missing 
something? Was this talked about half a year ago? I have another way 
to convert files AIFF files to MP3, but it was nice having the 
built-in function. By the way, I'm wanting to save a GPO rendition.


Bummer.

Andrew Levin

PS - I'm on the digest, so pardon if I don't respond to your 
responses for a day...

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Re: [Finale] large Dell monitors with Power Macs

[Andrew Levin]

Darcy wrote:


enabling rotation results in  unacceptably slow performance.


I suppose it depends on the video card you have. My G5 dual 2 GHz has 
an ATI Radeon 9600 card built in. Performance is fine.


For me, unacceptable performance was my old 15 greyscale Portrait 
Displays monitor on a Mac IIsi!! It used system memory to power the 
display (the IIsi was an odd bird). What was cool, though, was that 
rotating the screen rotated the image -- no need to reset the image 
with software.


Ahh, the good bad old days!

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Re: [Finale] large Dell monitors with Power Macs

[Andrew Levin]

Paul H wrote:

I recently read a good review of Dell's UltraSharp 2005FPW 20-inch
LCD monitor ($525):

http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=08202

This monitor, as well as the 24-inch version (2405FPW, $1019),
rotates 90 degrees. (Well, I _think_ the 24-inch model rotates.)

Is anyone on the list using either of these monitors with a Mac and
Tiger? If so, does the rotation work?


Paul,

I don't have *those* monitors, but I do have a 20 ViewSonic VP201b, 
which rotates 90 degrees. It works perfectly well with a G5 and 
Tiger. It's way cool! You may want to set up a QuicKeys (or iKeys) 
shortcut to push all of the right buttons for you, saving you the 
effort of doing same in the Displays pref pane. (I also use a 
different resolution than the default, so QuicKeys comes in extra 
handy).


Good luck, and have fun!

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[Finale] Access GPO from Cakewalk?

[Andrew Levin]

Hey, everyone,

I'm a Mac user so I can't test this out (or read about it). Does a PC 
sequencer like Cakewalk have access to the GPO sounds? On the Mac I 
can access them from GarageBand -- pretty neat! I ask because our 
school lab is about to update Finale, *and* switch from Mac to PC 
(sniff, sniff).


Thanks (a day in advance!  :-)   for your comments.

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[Finale] Re: Quoting

[Andrew Levin]

I guess the firestorm for Finale2006 and GPO has died down, allowing 
us a full day to discuss email etiquette!


:-)

Of course, since I'm on the digest, I'm only about 18 hours late to 
the party...


Darcy wrote:


What possible advantage does the digest
have over creating a Finale list folder and a rule that


I use Eudora and it's quite easy to set up a different folder and 
route all Finale emails there (in fact, I have it set up that way 
right now, for the digest). I guess the main reason I stick to the 
digest is that I don't want to be involved with Finale issues 
throughout the day. Quite frankly, I don't see how some of you have 
so much time throughout the day to respond to the list, but I'm not 
you. And I suppose if I had the discipline I could easily ignore the 
Finale mailbox but for once a day, but I'm not that strong!  :-) 
Once a day is fine by me.


Also, I've been a Finale user since 1991 but I'm not a daily user. If 
I don't get an answer to my question right away that's OK. And if I 
do need to see something right away I can always go to the SHSU web 
site.



it's harder to reply to individual messages


True.


you can't sort the list by thread


True, but threads sometimes go astray, so that mechanism isn't always 
useful. I just use the space bar to fly through the digest, stopping 
when something interests me; in the meanwhile, I at least glance at 
everything, so I can see whether there's something I want to read 
more carefully.


I might very well be in the minority, but it suits me.

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[Finale] Quoting

[Andrew Levin]

Colleagues,

May put forward a kind reminder for people to quote other emails more 
selectively? My digest, especially, ends up two or three times as 
long as it needs to be for all of the unnecessary quoting that goes 
on.


Thanks.

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[Finale] Sleeping in?

[Andrew Levin]

It appears Darcy is taking the morning off. Good for him!
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[Finale] Missing digests...

[Andrew Levin]

Hey, does anyone have Digest nos. 66 and 67? For some reason I never 
got those, so I'm missing LOTS of stuff. (Yeah, I also check the SHSU 
web site, but the posts are organized differently there so it's hard 
to know what I have or haven't yet read).


Thanks.

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[Finale] re: GPO/non-GPO workflow question

[Andrew Levin]

Title: re: GPO/non-GPO workflow
question


Darcy,

Sorry for not responding to your thorough explanation earlier;
for some reason I didn't get that issue of the digest.

So, for a blow by blow response

---


If I later move to GPO I'll have to 're-wire' the channels,
right?

Not if
you use the Setup Wizard

 * If
I set up a score sans GPO and use pizz in the score
without any

further playback definition, Finale will play back
arco,

No, not
if Human Playback is on.

 but
with GPO it'll come out pizz (right?). If I define the
pizz

_expression_ to playback as a patch change, would I have to change
that

definition when preparing the score for GPO?

You don't
have to define anything. With HP on, the same
pizz
_expression_ works both with the Finale soundfont (and,
I presume, any GM
playback
device) and GPO.

Apparently I'm getting different results than you. I did an
experiment with Finale GPO, the full GPO, and the built-in soundfont,
and how they play back things like this are not as I expected.

For starters, I created a three-measure piece, starting arco,
then to pizz in the second measure, then back to arco in the third. I
made three versions of this piece: Finale GPO, full GPO, and
SoundSynth. For each file I defined arco and pizz two different ways:
first, playback type = none, then playback type = dump. Here are my
results (as a reminder to all I'm on a Mac). In all cases HP was set
to Standard and I chose GPO instruments with the 'KS'
designation.

SoundSynth
 Playback = none: pizz works, arco doesn't (* see
below)
 Playback = dump: they don't work

GPO Finale
 Playback = none: pizz/arco works
 Playback = dump: pizz/arco works

Full GPO
 Playback = none: pizz/arco don't work
 Playback = dump: pizz/arco don't work

* the third measure never played arco. Sometimes it played a
piano sound (!) and sometimes it played what sounded like a bunch of
wood shingles hung from a string and wacked. Oddly, I repeatedly hit
play and it chose which of these two to play, seemingly randomly (and
with no other input from me).

Also, when choosing Dump I'm faced with a small dialog box
(twice!) asking for some numbers to help define the Dump. It appears
to be asking for hex numbers. Yet, check the documentation on chapter
8, page 47, and the explanation is not only cryptic, but the numbers
are *not* given in hex. I ended up ignoring this little dialog
box.

The results of this test? For SoundSynth and GPO Finale, it seems
to make sense to simply create expressions (without Dump definitions)
and HP understands them. However, the full GPO doesn't yet pick up on
this; I'm hoping this will be changed, since there are lots of
wonderful sounds here I'd like to use.

Now, on to other items.


(sub-question: does the GPO wizard draw from the Maestro Default
File

Yes.

Good. Thanks. Sub-sub-question: is it safe/smart to import our
Finale2005 Default file into 2006? Are there any new features I'd miss
out on? I'm thinking specifically of the year that Finale began
autoplacing expressions: my old default file had the old expressions,
so I had to delete them and import (load library) the new autoplace
expressions. Not a big deal, but I'm wondering if there is something
similar in the the 2005-2006 transition.

 *
For instance, let's say I have a 17 staff score. Using Finale
sans
 GPO
means I'll have to double up on channels, as I only have 16 at
my

disposal.

That's
not true. You have 128 channels at your disposal (or 64 if
you
are using
Fin GPO).

I guess I'm thinking of the old days of MIDI interfaces where a
single serial port could only handle 16 channels. So my Midiman 1x1
can handle 128 channels?



DIGRESSION: There's another frustrating thing about GPO: every
time I'd switch to a document set for the full GPO or Finale GPO it
would reload the samples into RAM. This takes time. Another workflow
bottleneck.

UNRELATED ITEM: The tempo track/tap works great! I haven't tested
it exhaustively, but it seems to work as advertised, which creates a
very natural tempo change.

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[Finale] re: GPO/MIDI question

[Andrew Levin]

A few weeks ago I asked this question, and 
received an answer (thanks, Darcy). Now I'm using 
FinMac 2006. However, where do I find optimize 
for GPO? It's not in the Human Playback 
preferences dialog. I remember seeing it in 
FinMac2005, but I can't find it now. I feel like 
a dodo.


Andrew Levin

---


Andrew,

MIDI Patch changes don't affect GPO -- the only important thing is the
channel number.  So provided you assign instrument channels in a
logical order (like, say, score order), the only thing you have to do
is change your output device from your MIDI keyboard to GPO Studio. 
(Also check or uncheck optimize for GPO in Human Plaback.)

- Darcy
-
djargon at mac.com
Brooklyn, NY


On 10 Jul 2005, at 6:53 PM, Andrew Levin wrote:

  List,
 
  I just bought GPO and the Finale upgrade to 2006 (and another gig of
  RAM!). But I have a rather simple question:
 
  With all of the talk about how processor/RAM intensive GPO is, I'd
  likely do most of my work routing MIDI through my MIDI keyboard (or
  maybe, sometimes, the Finale soundfonts). Later I'll switch the
  patches to GPO. But what if I want to do some editing or other simple
  work? Will I need to go through a whole rigamarole to reset patches?
  I'm thinking of the Instrument Window. It'd be nice if I could set the
  Instrument Window for my regular MIDI output, then another interface
  for GPO, then simply switch.


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[Finale] full GPO not showing up in Wizard

[Andrew Levin]

Odd.

I have both Finale GPO and the full GPO (with the latest 1.1.8.3 
Kontakt update), Mac, Finale2006, etc.


When running the New Document Wizard I'm offered the options of 
SoftSynth and Finale/GPO, but not the full Garritan GPO. Yet when I'm 
in the Native Instruments AU Setup window (after clicking Edit...) I 
have all three options and can use them.


Anyone have an idea why I don't have it as an option in the New 
Document Wizard?


(Pretty soon MakeMusic MacSupport will be getting a long email from me!)

Thanks.

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[Finale] Re: GPO/non-GPO workflow question

[Andrew Levin]

Darcy,

Thanks again so much for your help to me and many others. You should 
be on MakeMusic's payroll!


A general comment before beginning: with this whole GPO thing, I'm 
afraid that the Difficult To Learn Reputation monster will return. 
There are so many caveats to making this work, and so little of it is 
documented. How is the average Joe supposed to figure this all out? 
Now, onward!


Apparently I'm getting different results than you. I did an 
experiment with Finale GPO, the full GPO, and the built-in 
soundfont, and how they play back things like this are not as I 
expected.


For starters, I created a three-measure piece, starting arco, then 
to pizz in the second measure, then back to arco in the third. I 
made three versions of this piece: Finale GPO, full GPO, and 
SoundSynth. For each file I defined arco and pizz two different 
ways: first, playback type = none, then playback type = dump. Here 
are my results (as a reminder to all I'm on a Mac). In all cases HP 
was set to Standard and I chose GPO instruments with the 'KS' 
designation.


SoundSynth
  Playback = none: pizz works, arco doesn't (* see below)


They both work for me.  What is the staff name for the staff in 
question?  HP needs the staff name to be set correctly (e.g., 
violin, viola, cello, contrabass) so it can set the keyswitches 
properly.  If there's no staff name, HP doesn't know what instrument 
it's dealing with.


I wasn't paying attention to this. I chose Violin in the New 
Document Wizard, but I can't remember if SoundSynth or Finale GPO was 
selected at the time. It still says Violin in the score.


Speaking of which, can I safely change the Display Name in the 
gpoinstrument.txt file? I really don't want a score with Flute 
Player 3 on it! Just how much does HP need to playback properly?



  Playback = dump: they don't work


Of course -- dump never worked with Finale's SoftSynth.  And 
Dump is to be avoided in Fin2006 -- you should let HP handle 
expressions that are *not* defined for playback.


Thanks. I'll avoid dump. (And I'll try to avoid any scatological 
jokes that may be warranted!).



GPO Finale
  Playback = none: pizz/arco works
  Playback = dump: pizz/arco works

Full GPO
  Playback = none: pizz/arco don't work


You need to either uncheck use unified keyswitches or use the 
Notation set.


So, to understand: GPO Finale uses unified keyswitches, whereas the 
full GPO does not. The documentation formerly know as OLD spells it 
out, but I still seems so awkward.


However, I wasn't able to find the switch for the Notation set. 
Where's that, and what does it do?


The results of this test? For SoundSynth and GPO Finale, it seems 
to make sense to simply create expressions (without Dump 
definitions) and HP understands them. However, the full GPO doesn't 
yet pick up on this;


Yes it does -- you just have to either use the Notation set or 
UNcheck use unified keyswitches in HP preferences.


Thanks for the clarification.


  * For instance, let's say I have a 17 staff score. Using Finale sans
  GPO means I'll have to double up on channels, as I only have 16 at my
  disposal.

That's not true.  You have 128 channels at your disposal (or 64 if you
are using Fin GPO).


I guess I'm thinking of the old days of MIDI interfaces where a 
single serial port could only handle 16 channels. So my Midiman 1x1 
can handle 128 channels?


Your MIDIman 1x1 has nothing to do with either GPO playback or 
Finale SoftSynth playback.  You could unplug it completely, it 
wouldn't make any difference.  You are only using it for input, not 
output.


But I use it for input, and out of habit I've always used it for 
playback. It's less processor intensive to use it and avoid all of 
the other GPO stuff, at least for basic note entry (GPO has a delay 
when used with note entry) and playback. But perhaps it would be 
easier all around to just stick with soundfonts or GPO, of whichever 
flavor.


DIGRESSION: There's another frustrating thing about GPO: every time 
I'd switch to a document set for the full GPO or Finale GPO it 
would reload the samples into RAM. This takes time. Another 
workflow bottleneck.


Yes -- tell [EMAIL PROTECTED] you would like an option to 
only load GPO instruments when needed (instead of immediately upon 
switching windows).


I will.

Say, did anyone get a t-shirt? I didn't either, though I'm kinda glad 
I didn't. Imagine this, Mac users putting on this new green t-shirt, 
then realize they've lost a few fingers! (What? You didn't have them 
backed up?) Oops, something wrong with the t-shirt.


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[Finale] Where is the July 8, 2005 GPO update?

[Andrew Levin]

Can anyone help me find this latest update? I scoured the GPO pages 
and all I found was the update to the Kontakt player (to 1.1.8.3, 
dated June), but no July 8 notation update.


Thanks.

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[Finale] Do I need a mod wheel for GPO Finale?

[Andrew Levin]

My old and trusty (crusty?) Yamaha PSR-530 synth has a pitch bend 
wheel, but no mod wheel. Is this a problem? Do I need it with Fin2006 
and GPO Finale? Do I need it with the full GPO? I heard so much about 
the mod wheel earlier, but not as much lately. Something else to buy?


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[Finale] Problems downloading Kontakt update?

[Andrew Levin]

  Can anyone help me find this latest update? I scoured the GPO pages
  and all I found was the update to the Kontakt player (to 1.1.8.3,
  dated June), but no July 8 notation update.

That's the one.  The date is wrong.  It says June 15 but it's actually
July 8.  If you downloaded it between June 15 and July 7, you have to
download it again.


I don't know if the rest of you will have this problem, but when I 
downloaded the file via Firefox 1.06 for Mac the resulting zip file 
was corrupt and wouldn't unzip. Tried it three times. However, it 
downloads and works just fine using good ol' Internet Explorer.


YMMV.

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[Finale] GPO/non-GPO workflow question

[Andrew Levin]

After talking about the features and drawbacks I have straightforward 
workflow questions. Reading all that's be written to date, I have 
some basic questions about how to use the program that I haven't 
heard addressed yet.




What is the best way to start a new project in Finale? I can imagine 
a variety of issues to consider:


* There are times when all I need is notation, in which case doing 
things as before should be fine.


*There are times when I know I'll need GPO, so I'll start up with the 
GPO wizard (sub-question: does the GPO wizard draw from the Maestro 
Default File, or does it only wizard the playback aspects?).


But in the many cases where I'm not how the project will play out, 
how do I proceed?


* For instance, let's say I have a 17 staff score. Using Finale sans 
GPO means I'll have to double up on channels, as I only have 16 at my 
disposal. If I later move to GPO I'll have to 're-wire' the channels, 
right?


* If I set up a score sans GPO and use pizz in the score without 
any further playback definition, Finale will play back arco, but with 
GPO it'll come out pizz (right?). If I define the pizz expression 
to playback as a patch change, would I have to change that definition 
when preparing the score for GPO?


* It seems non-HP, non-GPO is the least processor intensive, so I'd 
be inclined to do most of the work that way, then move to HP/GPO 
later. Am I asking for troubles this way?


I think I have a modestly useful machine -- G5 dual 2.0 GHz, 2 GB 
RAM, OS X 10.4 -- but I don't want to bog it down unnecessarily. 
However, I also don't want to prepare a score twice: one for GPO, one 
without.


--

One other marginally related question: I read here (or Jari's review, 
or the Finale web site -- sorry that I can't remember) that GPO 
output is only for the sound that comes out of your speakers. Saving 
as audio does not save the HP/GPO performance. Do I remember that 
correctly? That would be awful if it were the case. (I do have Audio 
Hijack Pro, so presumably I could record it that way, but it 
certainly wouldn't be an elegant solution).


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[Finale] Did everyone miss this?

[Andrew Levin]

One moment Aaron Sherber said:


WinFin2006 seems to be a real memory hog


And a moment later Allen Fisher, of MakeMusic fame, answered:


We're handling several things up in RAM now that used to be handled by
writing to disk. That's why you're seeing increased RAM usage.


And we were saying MakeMusic didn't care enough to have someone 
monitor this list? I don't know how long this will continue, or how 
official it is, but at least when the product ships someone is 
listening. I like that.


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[Finale] Mass barbershopping

[Andrew Levin]

But I gotta say that it's almost chill-making
to be in a convention room with about 400 Sweet Adelines from 30
different choruses in a widespread region when somebody starts a
song, and they all join in in perfect 4-part harmony!


I was in St. Louis about 20 years ago during one of the international 
barbershop convention/competitions. In between quartet acts, when the 
judges were judging, the who crowd of *thousands* starting singing 
the same tune, same arrangement. Pretty amazing!


(I got tickets to the event the day before *in* the St. Louis arch, 
when my then-SO and I coaxed a song out of the conventioneers who 
were in the arch with us. And no, they weren't carrying their music 
with them!).


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[Finale] GPO/MIDI question

[Andrew Levin]

List,

I just bought GPO and the Finale upgrade to 2006 (and another gig of 
RAM!). But I have a rather simple question:


With all of the talk about how processor/RAM intensive GPO is, I'd 
likely do most of my work routing MIDI through my MIDI keyboard (or 
maybe, sometimes, the Finale soundfonts). Later I'll switch the 
patches to GPO. But what if I want to do some editing or other simple 
work? Will I need to go through a whole rigamarole to reset patches? 
I'm thinking of the Instrument Window. It'd be nice if I could set 
the Instrument Window for my regular MIDI output, then another 
interface for GPO, then simply switch.


Am I in luck?

Or should I just sit on my hands and wait until FinMac 2006 comes out?

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[Finale] Missing arrows

[Andrew Levin]

Hello, greater wisdom,

I'm wondering if anyone else has seen this (or discussed it already 
in this forum):


Pull down the File menu, and the New command doesn't have the 
disclosure arrow next to it showing me my subchoices. The arrows are 
there for Mass Edit and Tools menus, though not for TGTools menu. The 
menus still behave as if the arrows are there, but it's a little 
disconcerting to not see them.


My system is:

MacFin 2005b
Mac G5 2.0 GHz dualie
Mac OS 10.4.1

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[Finale] Using Automator to print PDF's

[Andrew Levin]

Neal G wrote:


Just did a test of this using OS 10.4.1 and FinMac 2005b...

My first experiment using Automator

Created a Workflow for Finder consisting of

 1. Get Specified Finder Items
 2. Print Finder Items

In the window for #1, I clicked on the + button, which called up a
dialogue box to allow me to select files (dragging files also worked).

When I clicked on Run I got a dialogue box asking to confirm the
printer I wanted to use, then a normal print dialogue box.

Ran it twice, once choosing Print, which quickly (and batch-ly)
printed the docs I had requested, the other time choosing PDF,
which quickly (and batch-ly) created .PDFs of the docs I had requested.

Seems to work like a charm.


Neal, you're a genius!  :-)  Fab!

Note what else you can do:

1) Save the Automator Workflow as an application, then just drag your 
files onto the workflow icon. Then you can choose to print or save as 
PDF, and it will work for you, as Neal puts it, in a batch-ly 
manner.


2) Save as a Finder plug-in. Then select files in the Finder and 
right-click; the contextual menu will have an Automator item, 
within which will be your saved workflow.


The Apple web site has a few more ideas, but these seem most apropos 
to our work with Finale.


And, by the way, thanks to all for your help on parts with real and 
default rests. You d' men! (with pardons to our female 
contributors).


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[Finale] Garritan limitations

[Andrew Levin]

Harold Owen wrote:


GPO is not optimum on Mac because of the lousy job the makers of
Kontakt Player have done porting the product to Mac. GPO uses Kontakt
Player, made by Native Instruments. You need an absolute minimum of 1
GB of RAM in order to manage ensembles of up to 5 or 6 instruments.
Those of us on Macs are hoping that a new version of Kontakt Player
will be forthcoming that will solve the problems we now face.


Yipes! And I have one gig of memory in my new 2.0 gig dual processor 
Mac. Does that mean if I upgraded to two gigs that I'll get 10 to 12 
instruments? How generous! (read with extreme sarcasm). I'm starting 
a score with triple woodwinds, full brass, percussion and strings. I 
was hoping to buy Garritan but it seems ridiculous to even try with 
these limitations. I'm still tempted to buy GPO while the price is 
low, but it seems a dicey proposition since I wouldn't be able to use 
it very much.


Darcy, thanks for the notes on *channel* changes to get pizz. I told 
my friend and he says it works like a charm.


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[Finale] Apple Jam Pack and Finale?

[Andrew Levin]

Friends,
Sorry if this has been covered before (I looked back a ways in the 
archives and couldn't find anything).

Question: can I access the Apple Orchestral Instruments from its Jam 
Pack 4 (made to use with their Logic series, etc.) from within Finale?

My aging system: G4/466, Mac 10.3.8, Finale 2005b
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[Finale] LED music stand light!

[Andrew Levin]

Friends,
I just got back from the ASTA conference (American String Teacher's 
Association) in Reno. While there I bought four LED music stand 
lights.

The lights are bright, runs on three AAA batteries, it folds up to a 
pretty small package, and if the salesperson is to be believed, it 
can run 18 continuous hours on one set of batteries. (For those 
planning to make regular use of this device, you may want to use 
rechargeable batteries).

An AC adapter is available (I didn't see a price), though the point 
of something like this is that you don't need one. It's silver 
(yech!) and plastic, so be careful not to crush.

I look forward to using them on my next low-light gig (string quartets).
The web address for this light is:
http://goldcrestinc.com/LED-Sell%20Sheet-72%5B1%5D.htm
If that doesn't take you where you want to go, start at their home page:
http://goldcrestinc.com/
Oh yes, they were selling them at the conference for $20 each. Since 
I was getting four, he gave me four for the price of three. Nice guy. 
Can you get that? Don't know.

Happy shopping.
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[Finale] 2005b fix

[Andrew Levin]

Darcy James Argue wrote:
I meant Did Coda post a new build of *FinMac2005b* -- which I
downloaded and installed as soon as it was announced.  I ask this
because Andrew describes a bugfix that isn't actually fixed in *my*
copy of Fin2005b.
I swear, it did work for a whole day. Then a few days later (this 
morning) it didn't. Ah, shucks, my credibility is shot on this list!

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[Finale] JW plugins for Mac yet?

[Andrew Levin]

Just curious,
Has anyone taken the original Mac JW plugin source code and made them 
OS X native? I sure do miss them.

Thanks.
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Re: [Finale] G*d-awful score expressions bug

[Andrew Levin]

List,
Odd. I went home on Friday, planning to mail Tobias my errant files. 
I thought to try things out one more time at before sending and guess 
what? No problems!

I can't really account for it. I try to keep my two computers as 
similar as possible. Perhaps I had an old version of TGTools at 
school, or who knows what! In any case, I was able to do my work at 
home and all is fine (I think; I haven't tried using TGTools Explode 
tool yet, though I may not need to with Tobias' changes).

Sorry for the wolf!
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Re: [Finale] G*d-awful score expressions bug

[Andrew Levin]

David Bailey wrote:
What happens if you simply extract each staff normally, then when 
you open each instrumental file, use the staff tool to turn on 
display of measure expressions?
After extracting parts the display is already set to show measure 
expressions. And they're there. Problem is, when I explode the part 
to separate flute I and II (for example), a zillion more get added.

Odd.
Andrew
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[Finale] G*d-awful score expressions bug

[Andrew Levin]

Jari wrote:
You could run the File Integrity check on it, but if that doesn't 
solve it I think you should send the file to Tobias.
Results:
Data check deleted 534 entries (out of 1168), 3 fonts, one 
articulation definition, and one text expressions definition. I also 
fixed minor inconsistencies, which included 238 orphaned entry 
details.

Outcome:
No change in behavior.
G...
I will contact Tobias.
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[Finale] G*d-awful score expressions bug

[Andrew Levin]

Man, oh man, what have I wrought?
Score expressions multiplying like tribbles! I don't know if it's 
Finale, TGTools, or the score I'm starting with. Oy!

For starters, here's my vanilla setup: FinMac 2005a, PowerMac G4/466, 
512 MB RAM, Mac OS 10.3.6, plenty of HD space, blah, blah.

The short of it: when Smart Exploding combined wind parts with 
TGTools (extracted from score), a zillion score expressions are 
added. It's an awful mess.

OK, so here's what I did.
1) I start with a full orchestra score, about 100 measures long, put 
together by a relative novice on c. FinWin 2001. The composer never 
used staff expressions, only score expressions with This staff only 
checked.

2) I extract the string parts and they look fine. I edit them. No problem.
3) I extract the wind and percussion parts (Finale was running since 
I did the above yesterday). They look fine.  I keep the score and all 
parts open, for editing purposes.

4) I open a wind part, which has both first and second parts on it, 
and apply TGTools' Smart Explosion of Multi-part Staves. My Mac goes 
wack-o. It hogs up to 95% of the processor and takes about 15 minutes 
to process (spinning beach ball and all). When it finally finishes 
thinking, the original wind part and the two news staves below are 
overwhelmed by miscellaneous score expressions that were not in the 
original wind part I was working on, but from other parts further 
down the score.

5) I tried this on a couple of other parts. Same thing.
6) I close all open documents, re-extract a wind part, apply TGTools, 
and same problem.

7) I quit Finale, then start up and open a newly-extracted wind part. 
Apply TGTools. Same problem.

Like I said, the expressions were all This staff only, so I don't 
know how they invaded other staves. Also, like I said, the composer 
is a novice. He also did his original work on an old PC.

Abiding by the wisdom of the list, I had autosave on, though I can't 
say that affected anything. Between restarting Finale and applying 
TGTools, enough time hadn't gone by for Autosave to kick in.

--
I may be able to complete my work with this score without resolving 
this mess (not by fixing the present score, but by correcting his 
original parts with pen and ink). A longterm solution would require 
solving this problem, but since I offered to do this gratis (the 
composer is a friend and I offered to help to clean up his parts, for 
the sake of my orchestra players), I'm going to take the easy out.

But if it's a Finale problem, we have to get to the bottom of it.
Oy.
Andrew Levin
PS - I just got my computer back! I told TGTools to Go on the 
latest operation, then wrote this entire email, then it just finished 
exploding part. It feels like I'm working on my old Mac IIsi.
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Re: [Finale] G*d-awful score expressions bug

[Andrew Levin]

Chuck Israels wrote:
You haven't exactly wrought this.  This stuff has to do with 2005 
and its staff lists.
That may be, but I think it's something else. I tried the same 
procedure with FinMac 2004c and got some interesting results.

1) I had kept the original score, which was created in WinMac 2001 
(rev 1?). I opened it up in FinMac 2004c (I don't have a version 
earlier than that on my hard drive).

2) I extracted the flute part. No problem.
3) I ran the Smart Explosion TGTool and it hung again, though at a 
different point. Before it had gotten to Pasting...; now it hung 
before that, at Optimizing regions.

4) Here's the catch: I got a Ctree error 2 in CTOTHERS:1206 error. 
Ad infinitum. I couldn't get out of it without force quitting Finale.

5) I tried again with 2004c: extracted the part no problem. This time 
I thought to try other TGTools: Modify slurs, Fit Music, Join rests 
of multiple layers, and Make spacing at end of measure. ALL of them 
worked fine, and very quickly.

6) Ran Smart Explosion, and now the same hanging and Ctree error 
(though hanging now on Deleting part spec (can't read my own 
handwriting!)).

Do I have a file problem? There was a Finale version some versions 
back that created problems with files, that a later utility would 
check out. Could this be it?

Oy!
Any help is welcome.
Andrew Levin
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Re: [Finale] Ouch! Got bitten by the file overwrite bug?

[Andrew Levin]

Darcy,
FWIW, if you had had autosave *on*, you could 
have reverted to the most recently auto-saved 
version of the quartet score and it probably 
would have been okay.  Autosave is safe in 
Fin2005a (but not Fin2004).
I didn't know that (sigh). OK, it's now on.
You can usually solve this by using Exposé -- 
hit F10 to show all your Finale windows, then 
click the one you want.  This seems to remind 
Finale which window is in front.
I'll keep this in mind, too.
Did you get a message prompting you to save 
changes when you quit?  Or did Finale just quit 
without prompting you?
No. I just did the usual: time to quit, best to 
save (and yes, I, too, have that annoying it 
doesn't seem to be saved after I just saved it 
greyed-out icon in the title bar), then quit.

Autosave also helps, as I said.  The official 
solution is to never have multiple files open 
simultaneously, which, for my work, is Not 
Acceptable.
That's baloney. Let's go back to pre-MultiFinder days, too, while we're at 
it!
I wish we could find the steps to reproduce the 
problem, because this is a big one.
The next time I have to files open I'll take more 
care to note what I'm doing, in case I get bitten 
again.

Andrew
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[Finale] FinaleScript help?

[Andrew Levin]

Listers,
Can anyone point to a good resource for using FinaleScript, other 
than what MakeMusic gives in their documentation? For a 
non-programmer like me the descriptions seem quite incomplete.

Specifically what I would like for it to do is listed below, but in 
general I'd like to have a resource that would be more useful.

Problem: open a file from an earlier version of Finale (I use 2005a 
Mac), print it, then close it *without* saving it.

I just want to print a series of parts; I don't want to convert and 
update them. But this requires going through every single part, 
opening, printing, closing, telling it not to save, next file...  If 
FinaleScript is supposed to automate things like this, I'd like to 
know how to do it.

Thanks.
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[Finale] Ouch! Got bitten by the file overwrite bug?

[Andrew Levin]

I think I may have been zapped by the file overwrite bug. I say may 
because I wasn't watching my actions too closely, but I'll try to 
reconstruct things below.

Incidentally, I use FinMac 2005a on a PowerMac G4/466, OS X 10.3.5, 
plenty of RAM, HD space, etc.

I was making two arrangements of the Wachet Auf tenor chorale, for 
string quartet and string trio. I had completed the trio version and 
closed it. I was working on the quartet version and wanted to copy 
over the bowings/articulations from the trio version from first 
violin part to first violin part. So I opened the trio score, copied 
the part, and pasted it into the quartet score. No problems.

Let me note, by the way, that both scores are called score. I do 
this on all of my arrangements, keeping them in their own folders.

I don't use Autosave, but I do save every few minutes, before and 
after significant changes or completions. In this case I kept working 
on the quartet score, and when done I wanted to view the score in 
page view to set the title, composer etc. For some reason the view 
options to fit width and fit entire page on screen (I can't remember 
the exact menu titles) were greyed out and the key combos didn't 
work. Then I noticed that I couldn't select anything with mass mover 
and the title tool didn't work.

At this point I saved (or, at least, I gave the key command; I don't 
know if it actually saved), then quit the program, hoping that 
starting up again will return functionality to the program.

So what happened? When I restarted Finale and opened the quartet 
score, it was the *trio* score. The quartet score was gone and was 
now a complete duplicate of the trio score. This makes absolutely no 
sense!

Fortunately this wasn't a critical arrangement, but I did lose a 
couple of hours. (I can hear it now: save different versions as you 
work. I'll be doing that from now on!). The awful thing is, I don't 
know what exactly caused it, so I'm not too confident to do other 
work in Finale for fear of losing work.

Does this sound like anything any of you have run into? Any thoughts? 
And yes, I have sent this in to Mac Support. I'll share whatever I 
learn from it.

Andrew Levin
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