On 11.04.2006 Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
It's worth thinking about if you're hunting for music to preserve. Our own
time is screaming for your attention. When I die, Gilles's work (and mine,
too) goes to the dump. Pick a box. I'll pay shipping.
I think you can have a different perspective:
Preserve all of it. You can quote me.
RBH
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 11.04.2006 Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
It's worth thinking about if you're hunting for music to preserve.
Our own
time is screaming for your attention. When I die, Gilles's work (and
mine,
too) goes to the dump. Pick a
At 07:49 AM 4/11/06 -0400, Raymond Horton wrote:
Preserve all of it. You can quote me.
What's your address? I have 14 crates to ship, plus another dozen of mine I
can get ready to go in a week. Then we can work on your performance
schedule for them.
Dennis
--
Please participate in my
Wow! Now it all comes back! I'm not sure if you deserve thanks tho'
Jerry
Gerald Berg
On 10-Apr-06, at 5:49 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 02:38 PM 4/10/06 -0400, Gerald Berg wrote:
Thanks for sharing that Dennis. I've sent it to a few friends.
A true double double.
I have evidence,
Wow! Now it all comes back! I'm not sure if you deserve thanks tho'
Jerry
Gerald Berg
On 10-Apr-06, at 5:49 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 02:38 PM 4/10/06 -0400, Gerald Berg wrote:
Thanks for sharing that Dennis. I've sent it to a few friends.
A true double double.
I have
Wow! Now it all comes back! I'm not sure if you deserve thanks tho'
Jerry
Gerald Berg
On 10-Apr-06, at 5:49 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 02:38 PM 4/10/06 -0400, Gerald Berg wrote:
Thanks for sharing that Dennis. I've sent it to a few friends.
A true double double.
I have
For those not in the know.
A double double refers to double cream and double sugar in one's
coffee. I think it may be an eastern Canadian thing. I never heard it
said on the west coast. One thing is definitely Ontario is the call
for a 'regular' coffee -- which means one cream and one
Since there is so much discussion about this tune, I'd
be happy to send anyone interested a copy of John
Cleese singing it. It will certainly settle all
questions! JimDukey- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Jerry,
You can get Chinese text into Finale text and lyrics. But there are
extra steps involved given Finale's lack of support for Unicode. You
have to set the Finale text/lyrics to be Chinese script, not Western
script. On XP, you probably have to set Chinese in the language bar
when using
At 10:44 AM 4/11/06 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
I think you can have a different perspective: Perhaps in 200 years time
someone will find your box
My point is the opposite. I don't mind my stuff going to the dump (which it
will anyway, as I don't have any heirs) if the next generation of
At 4/11/2006 02:41 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
But with music (and often the associated arts of ballet and stage shows)
the behavior is entirely backwards. (I have an extended theory about this,
which should appear in Greywolf Press sometime this summer, and in another
piece on New Music Box
On 11.04.2006 Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
But with music (and often the associated arts of ballet and stage shows)
the behavior is entirely backwards. (I have an extended theory about this,
which should appear in Greywolf Press sometime this summer, and in another
piece on New Music Box also
At 9:11 AM -0400 4/11/06, Gerald Berg wrote:
For those not in the know.
A double double refers to double cream and double sugar in one's
coffee. I think it may be an eastern Canadian thing. I never heard
it said on the west coast. One thing is definitely Ontario is the
call for a
I'll listen to some of your music because I like hearing new things. I'll listen with an open mind.
I love the Naxos series on Spanish composers, for exampleI like music that sounds like, well music. If it has drama, melody, and a beat-- I like it.
A composition student told me you just like
Title: [Finale] Doc Opts
Hello all,
I was wondering if anyone had some favorite doc opts numbers/settings that theyve changed from factory defaults that they are really crazy about? I figure a lot of you have probably spent some time developing a custom look and was wondering what all went
At 02:57 PM 4/11/06 -0400, Phil Daley wrote:
So this is about performers and not about listeners?
Phil,
Listeners are at the end of the music supply chain. They choose from what's
available, so just recycle to the top of my argument and start again, but
one step later in the process.
It's the
Dear list,
Full score. Flutes 1 and 2 share top staff , 1 is stems up, 2 is stems
down. In the final measure 1 and 2 play the same note.Which would be
preferred, one whole note and fermata and notation 1., 2. or two whole
notes and fermatas side by side, one marked 1., the other marked 2.?
Phil Daley wrote:
[snip]
There is only so much time to play and to listen. And though it does not
follow logically that time spent on earlier music is time lost to new
music, it does follow psychologically. People will play what there is to
play. Playing earlier music -- especially Baroque
At 09:01 PM 4/11/06 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
Depends on whether you count popular music. And if you are comparing to
film (and literature to an extend), the equivalent in music would be
popular music.
Johannes,
I don't agree with that -- and I'm not including pop in this, though
Albinoni
Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
I'll listen to some of your music because I like hearing new things.
I'll listen with an open mind.
I love the Naxos series on Spanish composers, for exampleI like
music that sounds like, well music. If it has drama, melody, and a
beat-- I like it.
A composition
D. Keneth Fowler wrote:
Dear list,
Full score. Flutes 1 and 2 share top staff , 1 is stems up, 2 is stems
down. In the final measure 1 and 2 play the same note.Which would be
preferred, one whole note and fermata and notation 1., 2. or two whole
notes and fermatas side by side, one marked
On 11 Apr 2006 at 15:02, John Howell wrote:
At 9:11 AM -0400 4/11/06, Gerald Berg wrote:
For those not in the know.
A double double refers to double cream and double sugar in one's
coffee. I think it may be an eastern Canadian thing. I never heard
it said on the west coast. One thing is
Or just a2.
- Darcy
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On 11 Apr 2006, at 4:10 PM, dhbailey wrote:
D. Keneth Fowler wrote:
Dear list,
Full score. Flutes 1 and 2 share top staff , 1 is stems up, 2 is
stems down. In the final measure 1 and 2 play the
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 11 Apr 2006 at 15:02, John Howell wrote:
At 9:11 AM -0400 4/11/06, Gerald Berg wrote:
For those not in the know.
A double double refers to double cream and double sugar in one's
coffee. I think it may be an eastern Canadian thing. I never heard
it said on the
On Apr 11, 2006, at 3:56 PM, D. Keneth Fowler wrote:
Dear list,
Full score. Flutes 1 and 2 share top staff , 1 is stems up, 2 is stems
down. In the final measure 1 and 2 play the same note.Which would be
preferred, one whole note and fermata and notation 1., 2. or two
whole notes and
With all the sadness and trauma going on in the world at the moment,it
is worth reflecting on the death of a very important person, whichalmost
went unnoticed last week.Larry LaPrise, the man that wrote
"The Hokey Pokey" died peacefullyat the age of 93. The most traumatic part
for his
Dennis,
unfortunately I haven't got time to go into too many details - going on
tour tomorrow morning, incidentally to play what is called Bach's
reconstructed St Mark's Passion. That would be an interesting piece to
discuss in this context (and imo a rather questionable piece to perform,
At 04:45 PM 4/11/2006, John Hughes wrote:
With all the sadness and trauma going on in the world at the moment,
it is worth reflecting on the death of a very important person, which
almost went unnoticed last week.
That's because it didn't happen last week. He died in 1996. See
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
Dennis,
[snip]
I think you are actually making this a little too simple. It almost
sounds (and I know you don't intend it to sound like this) as though you
want to say, everyone goes to the cinema to watch the newest film, but
noone listens to my music, to which one
On Apr 11, 2006, at 5:06 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
At 04:45 PM 4/11/2006, John Hughes wrote:
With all the sadness and trauma going on in the world at the moment,
it is worth reflecting on the death of a very important person, which
almost went unnoticed last week.
That's because it didn't
What Dennis writes is exactly why traditional (i.e. old) classical
music is not taken seriously by many thoughtful, intelligent
listeners under 30. The museum mentality is stifling. From an
outsider's perspective, an evening at the Met seems like a game of
historical make-believe, put on
Yeah that joke was old - but the most amazing thing this time was
following the links and finding that, behind the usual battles over
authorship on a simple song like that, behind all of them were, likely
title and lyrics written by, I kid-you-not the SHAKERS. Look it up.
RBH
Christopher
On Apr 11, 2006, at 3:38 PM, Scot Hanna-Weir wrote:
I was wondering if anyone had some favorite doc opts numbers/settings that they’ve changed from factory defaults that they are really crazy about?
Stems/Shortened Stem Length: set to 72
Lines Curves/PostScript Options: Underline Depth
On 11.04.2006 dhbailey wrote:
I didn't get that point from Dennis's post at all -- his point was that cinema
houses don't SHOW the old movies, so the audience has no choice but to watch
the newest movies. It's not that they have any choice, if they want to see
movies on the big screen in the
On 11.04.2006 Darcy James Argue wrote:
It's actually easier to get young people unfamiliar with classical music
interested in the work of living composers than dead ones, which is only
natural since (as Dennis says) they also gravitate towards living authors,
living directors, living
Well, it's absolutely true in my own experience.
And yes, I know the plural of anecdote is not data, but consider
the success of new music ensembles I mentioned, all of whom have a
much younger audience than traditional chamber music groups. Even
when they play traditional venues -- I saw
Incidentally, the program for the (sold-out, BTW) Alarm Will Sound
show I mention was:
Dead composers: Zappa, Cage, Varèse
Live composers: Derek Bermel, Wolfgang Rihm, Bernard Woma, John Cale,
John Adams
Cheers,
- Darcy
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At 11:00 PM 4/11/06 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
So where is the line between pop and non-pop? Is Gershwin pop or non-pop
(admitedly one can't really call Gershwin contemporary, nor Bernstein
for that matter, but what were they then?)
It's a grey area. Think of it as a different way of
At 05:39 PM 4/11/06 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote:
My only quibble is with (what I perceive as) Dennis's distaste for
pop
Not at all, Darcy. I just don't write or play it myself, so excuse myself
from intelligent discussion. I'm a huge fan of the whole hiphop and
child-of-hiphop realm (rap,
At 11:00 PM 4/11/06 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
Unbroken link from previous, with nonstreaming version also:
http://maltedmedia.com/people/bathory/music/mp3/newcentury/clouds_of_endless_summer.m3u
http://maltedmedia.com/people/bathory/music/mp3/newcentury/clouds_of_endless_summer.mp3
Dennis
Nothing divides nations more than coffee nomenclature.
Here in Australia (more specifically Melbourne, I think there are regional differences) you have the basic choices:
long black - espresso with a dash of hot water
short black - espresso
macchiato - espresso with a spot of milk
And for those
On 11 Apr 2006, at 6:41 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
The question is the *arts-oriented* public, which is the way I've
addressed
this. They are the people who go to contemporary art galleries, read
provocative fiction, watch independent films, know the difference
between
dandelion and
In a message dated 4/10/2006 3:34:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have in my possession the entire life's work, in 14 sealed
crates, of composer Gilles Yves Bonneau. (snip) Would you like to take this music, catalog it, tend it, edit it, publish it, perform it? In
fact,
At 07:33 PM 4/11/06 EDT, you wrote:
In a message dated 4/11/2006 3:42:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You can find all manner of
pleasant and difficult and challenging and sensual and viral pieces of
nonpop, to whatever taste you have.
Any chance you meant virile?
Frank Prain wrote:
Nothing divides nations more than coffee nomenclature.
Here in Australia (more specifically Melbourne, I think there are
regional differences) you have the basic choices:
long black - espresso with a dash of hot water
from a long-time Lygon St drinker, I can tell you that
At 07:20 PM 4/11/06 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Apologies for misattributing an anti-pop position to you. I guess
it's just that since I don't believe in the high/low art distinction,
the nonpop label tends rubs me the wrong way.
The question of what to brand this music is a thorny one. I
At 07:42 PM 4/11/06 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Here's the one place where I disagree with you, Dennis. The audience
for Albinoni (by and large) will never be interested in creative new
music. They are the Pottery Barn crowd, when they're not listening
to Albinoni, they're listening to
Thanks to Darcy, David, Lee, Christopher and Andrew f or solving my problem.
Thanks, Andrew, for the extra note on using 1 and 2. I am embarrassed that
I did not think to use a 2 or a due. Just what the doctor ordered.
Best to all.
Ken
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On Apr 11, 2006, at 9:00 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
We ran down the terms. Classical has too much
baggage, and is pretty much wrong. New music means something to a
certain
crowd, but then just loses meaning at all. Art music? That applies to
any
genre with enough skill behind it.
Is there a way to declare a default font for lyric tool? It's such a pain to reset what I've typed...
Thanks so much!
Kim
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On Apr 11, 2006, at 3:38 PM, Scot Hanna-Weir wrote:
Hello all,
I was wondering if anyone had some favorite doc opts numbers/settings that they’ve changed from factory defaults that they are really crazy about? I figure a lot of you have probably spent some time developing a custom look and
On Apr 11, 2006, at 10:00 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
Is there a way to declare a default font for lyric tool? It's such a
pain to reset what I've typed...
Thanks so much!
Options menuDocument OptionsFonts... Lyrics is the first item.
Make this change to your default file and save it
Hey Chris,
Go ahead and share whatever you like. I can't really take credit for
them, though, as they're more or less poached from Jari's old site.
Cheers,
- Darcy
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On Apr 11, 2006, at 10:14 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hey Chris,
Go ahead and share whatever you like. I can't really take credit for
them, though, as they're more or less poached from Jari's old site.
OK, here we go, then. All settings in EVPUs. Don't forget these are
default
On 11 Apr 2006, at 10:53 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
Avoid Accidentals UNchecked. (This prevents those wildly
exaggerated arcs when finishing a slur on a note with an accidental)
Space around accidentals of no use
Actually, Chris, these must be old settings. Avoid Accidentals is
fine so
Revised settings, thanks again to Darcy. Just ignore the last message.
OK, here we go, then. All settings in EVPUs. Don't forget these are
default settings.
Under Slur Contour,
Short Span
Height 16
Inset 30%
Medium Span
Height 60
Inset 25%
Long Span
Height 72
Inset 20%
Extra long Span
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 11.04.2006 Darcy James Argue wrote:
It's actually easier to get young people unfamiliar with classical
music interested in the work of living composers than dead ones,
which is only natural since (as Dennis says) they also gravitate
towards living authors, living
I think Dennis makes an excellent point here. The comparison with film
is not equal, but it is apt.
RBH
Dennis B. K. writes:
Film has a shorter history, but even so, there's not much clamoring for
reshowings of Potemkin or The Great Dictator or Birth of a Nation or
Metropolis or even
Man, I keep my monitor set on that 1800 x 1200 setting for max detail in
Finale but I gotta learn to reset it for email, so I don't mis-type so
much - it makes me look like an idiot1
Let me repost and edit so it makes at least SOME sense:
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Raymond Horton wrote:
Man, I keep my monitor set on that 1800 x 1200 setting for max detail in
Finale but I gotta learn to reset it for email, so I don't mis-type so
much - it makes me look like an idiot1
I just changed the default magnification in my browser. It's MUCH
easier. :)
cd
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