Re: [Finale] 2006/2007 copy strangeness

2008-09-02 Thread Richard Huggins
A scratch staff is a staff just the same, and perhaps one of the MIDI channels assigned to 1-4 also is assigned to 5. Make sure 5 has its own MIDI channel. As for copying, make sure she looks at Items to Copy and de-select Performance Data. I don't know (because I've never tried it) but

[Finale] RE: Finale 2006 support foreign fonts in lyrics?

2006-04-11 Thread Michael Good
Hi Jerry, You can get Chinese text into Finale text and lyrics. But there are extra steps involved given Finale's lack of support for Unicode. You have to set the Finale text/lyrics to be Chinese script, not Western script. On XP, you probably have to set Chinese in the language bar when using

Re: [Finale] 2006 crashes

2005-08-08 Thread Simon Troup
Twice now, and mass mover edit to move a selected bunch of measures has caused the dreaded spinning beach ball, from which there is no exit short of a force quit. Hi Chuck is this happening with the same selection of music? Or is it more random? Simon Troup Digital Music Art

Re: [Finale] 2006 crashes

2005-08-08 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Simon, It happened on two different documents. I had moved measures on them and done a bunch of other editing work. Then another grab and put selected measures in one system (or whatever the exact wording is) hangs up the whole thing. I think it's been just twice, but it may have

Re: [Finale] 2006 crashes

2005-08-08 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Hmmm .. I've used the Mass Mover to move a minimum # of mm's, like 8-10 of a single part, with no prob. Are you talking about a large amount of music? Dean On Aug 8, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Hi all, Twice now, and mass mover edit to move a selected bunch of measures has

Re: [Finale] 2006 crashes

2005-08-08 Thread Chuck Israels
On Aug 8, 2005, at 3:57 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Hmmm .. I've used the Mass Mover to move a minimum # of mm's, like 8-10 of a single part, with no prob. Are you talking about a large amount of music? Dean Once a bunch (maybe a dozen or more), and once only two. It doesn't

Re: [Finale] 2006 crashes

2005-08-08 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Chuck Israels / 2005/08/08 / 06:06 PM wrote: Twice now, and mass mover edit to move a selected bunch of measures has caused the dreaded spinning beach ball, from which there is no exit short of a force quit. Just in case you had some important work that hasn't been saved, I'd wait as long as

Re: [Finale] 2006 crashes

2005-08-08 Thread Chuck Israels
Hiro, if (when) it happens again, I will surely try this. I certainly didn't wait that long - maybe two or three minutes at most. I could even have a pleasant conversation with Margot! Thanks, Chuck On Aug 8, 2005, at 4:51 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Chuck Israels / 2005/08/08 / 06:06 PM

Re: [Finale] 2006 crashes

2005-08-08 Thread Christopher Smith
On Aug 8, 2005, at 6:06 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Hi all, Twice now, and mass mover edit to move a selected bunch of measures has caused the dreaded spinning beach ball, from which there is no exit short of a force quit. A bug, for sure. It has been reported. I agree that the fact that

Re: [Finale] 2006 crashes

2005-08-08 Thread Chuck Israels
I don't think so, Chris. I've done this, and I don't think they're corrupted again so soon. I will watch this, and do what Hiro suggests, if it happens again. Chuck On Aug 8, 2005, at 5:46 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Aug 8, 2005, at 6:06 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Hi all, Twice

Re: [Finale] 2006 already shipping Finale to GPO question

2005-07-25 Thread dhbailey
Randolph Peters wrote: I just read on the other forum that Finale 2006 is already shipping. Now that I have your attention, I thought I'd run my question by the list again. My question applies to Finale 2005 and 2006: At 9:36 AM -0500 7/24/05, Randolph Peters wrote: When you check the

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-16 Thread Tyler Turner
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all of the hoopla about no saxes in GPO, If I remember correctly the Kontakt player that will be part of Finale 2006 will be able to load any NI Samples. Since the sounds that ship with Sibelius play thru their Kompakt player, I wonder if the

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-16 Thread dhbailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all of the hoopla about no saxes in GPO, If I remember correctly the Kontakt player that will be part of Finale 2006 will be able to load any NI Samples. Since the sounds that ship with Sibelius play thru their Kompakt player, I wonder if the Sibelius sounds

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-15 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Dean M. Estabrook schrieb: Ah, what I do is create a finale file, which then, for playback, goes via my MIDI to my Roland J35 Keboard, thence to my stereo amp and speaker system, whence I hear it. Sorry I didn't clarify that. Yes, but then you are not using and cannot use the Finale

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-15 Thread dhbailey
John Bell wrote: On 15 Jul 2005, at 03:53, dhbailey wrote: But they list the Jazz Big Band Collection for sale (I was terribly wrong about the price -- it's a whopping $259 dollars more, and that's a special deal for Finale users!) so they could include a tickler about how they'll be

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-15 Thread Johannes Gebauer
dhbailey schrieb: If you want to use it for additional midi channels, you can send 16 channels to your Roland via your midi hookup and send 16 more channels through the smartmusic soundfont (you select that in the midi devices list) and then send the line-out jack to a mixer to combine

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-15 Thread dhbailey
dhbailey wrote: [snip] All MakeMusic has to do is to release Fianle2006 as they plan to, without the saxes, since they're not ready for release yet, and then release an update patch, like they do for the occasional interim bug-release (finale2005a, finale2005b, finale2005c, whatever),

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO -- MakeMusic's reply to my request for saxophones

2005-07-15 Thread dhbailey
dhbailey wrote: dhbailey wrote: [snip] All MakeMusic has to do is to release Fianle2006 as they plan to, without the saxes, since they're not ready for release yet, and then release an update patch, like they do for the occasional interim bug-release (finale2005a, finale2005b,

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-15 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 15 Jul 2005, at 6:25 AM, dhbailey wrote: So why isn't Finale going to include saxes? David, no offense, but how many times do you need this explained? Fin2k6 doesn't include any GPO saxes because at the moment, there ARE NO GPO SAXES TO INCLUDE. The Jazz/Big Band edition of GPO is NOT

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO -- MakeMusic's reply to my request for saxophones

2005-07-15 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 15 Jul 2005, at 10:41 AM, dhbailey wrote: So much for MakeMusic's commitment to serve the educational community -- can anybody name any major concert band or jazz band or marching band works which don't include saxophones? David, are you even reading Tyler's posts? He wrote: Sibelius

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-15 Thread Eric Dannewitz
*tongue in cheek* Yeah, but when it does come out, it will have all those useful saxes like Contrabass, and C melody. Woohoo! Darcy James Argue wrote: David, no offense, but how many times do you need this explained? Fin2k6 doesn't include any GPO saxes because at the moment, there ARE NO

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-15 Thread John Howell
At 10:21 AM -0700 7/15/05, Eric Dannewitz wrote: *tongue in cheek* Yeah, but when it does come out, it will have all those useful saxes like Contrabass, and C melody. Woohoo! Darcy James Argue wrote: David, no offense, but how many times do you need this explained? Fin2k6 doesn't include

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-15 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 15 Jul 2005, at 1:37 PM, John Howell wrote: Umm, am I the only one to whom it has occurred that at the very least, alto and tenor sax are ORCHESTRAL INSTRUMENTS, and are played with a sound the is quite different from a jazz sound? As are the saxes in wind ensembles. Thinking that a

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO -- MakeMusic's reply to my request for saxophones

2005-07-15 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: On 15 Jul 2005, at 10:41 AM, dhbailey wrote: So much for MakeMusic's commitment to serve the educational community -- can anybody name any major concert band or jazz band or marching band works which don't include saxophones? David, are you even reading Tyler's

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO -- MakeMusic's reply to my request for saxophones

2005-07-15 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: [snip] You then went on to pooh-pooh the fact that the included snare drum has both left- and right-hand hits, which is actually *extremely important* for marching band work. [snip] Are they matched grip or traditional grip? That's important, too. :-) -- David H.

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-15 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: On 15 Jul 2005, at 6:25 AM, dhbailey wrote: So why isn't Finale going to include saxes? David, no offense, but how many times do you need this explained? Fin2k6 doesn't include any GPO saxes because at the moment, there ARE NO GPO SAXES TO INCLUDE. The Jazz/Big

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-15 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: On 15 Jul 2005, at 1:37 PM, John Howell wrote: Umm, am I the only one to whom it has occurred that at the very least, alto and tenor sax are ORCHESTRAL INSTRUMENTS, and are played with a sound the is quite different from a jazz sound? As are the saxes in wind

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO -- MakeMusic's reply to my request for saxophones

2005-07-15 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 15 Jul 2005, at 2:32 PM, dhbailey wrote: Your point being? Yes they do include those instruments. but if the playback can't include the sax section, how will a reasonable rendition of a band work be made? (A) With other instruments covering the saxophone parts, same as what I do know

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-15 Thread Darcy James Argue
n 15 Jul 2005, at 2:43 PM, dhbailey wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: On 15 Jul 2005, at 1:37 PM, John Howell wrote: Umm, am I the only one to whom it has occurred that at the very least, alto and tenor sax are ORCHESTRAL INSTRUMENTS, and are played with a sound the is quite different from a

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO -- MakeMusic's reply to my request for saxophones

2005-07-15 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: [snip] No, you cannot. Sibelius does not provide their own soundfont -- Finale does (in addition to the GPO sounds). I haven't used the Finale-provided soundfont other than to check my installation -- then I substitute one which I prefer for the Finale-provided

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO -- MakeMusic's reply to my request for saxophones

2005-07-15 Thread Tyler Turner
--- Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Jul 2005, at 2:32 PM, dhbailey wrote: Your point being? Yes they do include those instruments. but if the playback can't include the sax section, how will a reasonable rendition of a band work be made? (A) With other

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO -- MakeMusic's reply to my request for saxophones

2005-07-15 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 15 Jul 2005, at 3:27 PM, dhbailey wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: What's better, a Finale+GPO rendition of a concert band work that contains every concert band instrument except saxophones (substituting clarinets or double-reeds on their parts, as I do now), or a Sibelius rendition of

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-15 Thread David W. Fenton
On 15 Jul 2005 at 13:03, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 15 Jul 2005, at 6:25 AM, dhbailey wrote: So why isn't Finale going to include saxes? David, no offense, but how many times do you need this explained? Fin2k6 doesn't include any GPO saxes because at the moment, there ARE NO GPO SAXES

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO -- MakeMusic's reply to my request for saxophones

2005-07-15 Thread Tyler Turner
--- Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Jul 2005, at 2:32 PM, dhbailey wrote: Your point being? Yes they do include those instruments. but if the playback can't include the sax section, how will a reasonable rendition of a band work be made? (A) With other

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-15 Thread David W. Fenton
On 15 Jul 2005 at 13:37, John Howell wrote: At 10:21 AM -0700 7/15/05, Eric Dannewitz wrote: *tongue in cheek* Yeah, but when it does come out, it will have all those useful saxes like Contrabass, and C melody. Woohoo! Darcy James Argue wrote: David, no offense, but how many times do

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO -- MakeMusic's reply to my request for saxophones

2005-07-15 Thread dhbailey
Tyler Turner wrote: [snip] You're reading too much into Phil's response. The guy apparently screwed up and didn't really understand your question. With each new release, the support starts getting mauled with more questions, and it wouldn't surprise me if he's been working a lot of overtime

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO -- MakeMusic's reply to my request for saxophones

2005-07-15 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: [snip] Now, imagine sending a recording of a work you want published or performed to a potential publisher or director and having to explain that due to software limitations, the recording only includes 8 simultaneous instruments! I wouldn't do that, either. :-)

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO -- MakeMusic's reply to my request for saxophones

2005-07-15 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jul 15, 2005, at 12:27 PM, dhbailey wrote:Neither is better in my estimation -- imagine sending a recording of a work you want published or performed to a potential publisher or director and having to explain that it's not actually a realistic sound becaue those extra clarinet or bassoon sounds

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-15 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
ok, I think I'm beginning to get the picture, though my inexperience in this area blurs the concept considerably. For example, if I were to purchase GPO, and create a fin file, I don't even understand how those wonderful GPO sounds would become my mode of playback, with my present system.

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-15 Thread Lon Price
Being a sax player myself, I find this thread well, amusing.  But seriously, there's not much out there in any sample library that comes even close to covering saxophones.  The Vienna Library saxes ($265 at Sweetwater) have only tenor and soprano--no alto or bari even.  Forget C-melody, bass,

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-15 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 15 Jul 2005, at 6:11 PM, Lon Price wrote: Being a sax player myself, I find this thread well, amusing.  But seriously, there's not much out there in any sample library that comes even close to covering saxophones.  The Vienna Library saxes ($265 at Sweetwater) have only tenor and

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO -- MakeMusic's reply to my request for saxophones

2005-07-15 Thread Lon Price
On Jul 15, 2005, at 2:07 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:You have to suspend disbelief in order to accept any of these sounds.  They only remotely resemble the sound of the instruments they represent.  I'd like saxophones too, but when they come, they won't sound real anyway.  For me, it's not that much

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-15 Thread Lon Price
On Jul 15, 2005, at 3:18 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:Lon, GPO Jazz/Big Band will have the full range of saxophones, from sopranino through sub-contrabass, and including C-melody and mezzo-soprano saxes. (Personally, I think that's overkill, but this sounds like something you'd want to pick up.)

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO -- MakeMusic's reply to my request for saxophones

2005-07-15 Thread Tyler Turner
--- Lon Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 15, 2005, at 2:07 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: You have to suspend disbelief in order to accept any of these sounds. They only remotely resemble the sound of the instruments they represent. I'd like saxophones too, but when they

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account
Johannes Gebauer wrote: Not to take anyone's illusions away, but I have just been trying to make the full GPO imitate a string quartet. To be honest, the only instrument that is sort of acceptable is the cello, in some registers at least. None of the violins sound remotely like solo violins

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
Tyler Turner wrote: [snip] I'm discovering that scores which have a lot of markings for HP to interpret can sound better than a lot of the scores I hear on the GPO demo page - and that's using the Finale GPO set that comes with Finale. Do you HAVE to use HP? Nope. It's all MIDI data that Finale

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
Tyler Turner wrote: [snip] For most of the instruments, you get a single solo instrument and 3 ensemble instruments. Thanks for adding that -- after reading Ronald's post I was feeling a bit let-down. I am intrigued now! -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
ronan wrote: [snip] I understand that will not be able to use the full GPO with Finale2006 immediately. But Gary has promised a free patch will be out soon. [snip] That's interesting, especially in light of the fact that they are offering extra-cost addon GPO versions for Finale users to

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
Johannes Gebauer wrote: Tyler Turner schrieb: Sections strings are solid, but I'm not sure about how well the solo strings can stand on their own or in small ensembles (string quartets, etc.). Not to take anyone's illusions away, but I have just been trying to make the full GPO imitate a

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
Lee Actor wrote: Thanks, this is very helpful. It's hard to tell what's missing just from the list of patch names, e.g., Viola Section is included with Finale, but Viola Section (10 players) is only in the full GPO. Also, no Violin II section in either? [snip] Oh, no! No violin II

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 14, 2005, at 5:38 AM, dhbailey wrote: Well, let me qualify that -- the sounds are unsatisfying, even if not having to deal with all the egos and attitude problems often present in human orchestras makes working at my computer that much more enjoyable! ;-) Heh, heh! Have you read

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread John Wyman
I talked with a rep at MakeMusic yesterday about the absence of saxophones in the GPO set that come with 2006. There will be none in the full version of GPO either, for saxophones one must purchase the jazz GPO package. Can this be a blessing in disguise?John WymanI have just one question

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
How does one access the smartmusic soundfount for playback (not through the internal speaker) with Mac Fin 04c? Dean On Jul 14, 2005, at 2:31 AM, dhbailey wrote: ronan wrote: Oh well. At least Tyler's review in another post leaves me hopeful that playback in Fin2006 using GPO will be at

RE: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread ronan
://www.RonaldJBrown.com -Original Message- From: dhbailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 14, 2005 5:32 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO Tyler Turner wrote: [snip] For most of the instruments, you get a single solo instrument and 3 ensemble instruments

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Dean M. Estabrook schrieb: How does one access the smartmusic soundfount for playback (not through the internal speaker) with Mac Fin 04c? Not sure how you mean. Where would the sound come out if not the internal speaker? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
John Wyman wrote: I talked with a rep at MakeMusic yesterday about the absence of saxophones in the GPO set that come with 2006. There will be none in the full version of GPO either, for saxophones one must purchase the jazz GPO package. Can this be a blessing in disguise? Oh,

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
Johannes Gebauer wrote: Dean M. Estabrook schrieb: How does one access the smartmusic soundfount for playback (not through the internal speaker) with Mac Fin 04c? Not sure how you mean. Where would the sound come out if not the internal speaker? Johannes The line-out jack. -- David

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 14 Jul 2005, at 10:04 PM, dhbailey wrote: John Wyman wrote: I talked with a rep at MakeMusic yesterday about the absence of saxophones in the GPO set that come with 2006. There will be none in the full version of GPO either, for saxophones one must purchase the jazz GPO package. Can this

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread John Bell
On 15 Jul 2005, at 03:04, dhbailey wrote:Oh, definitely for me!  I relish the thought of having to pay another $150 or so to get the sounds of an instrument which it is unthinkable to leave out of a quite large share of the composition/engraving field, namely Concert Band, to say nothing about

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread Tyler Turner
--- dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Wyman wrote: I talked with a rep at MakeMusic yesterday about the absence of saxophones in the GPO set that come with 2006. There will be none in the full version of GPO either, for saxophones one must purchase the jazz GPO package.

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread John Bell
On 15 Jul 2005, at 03:53, dhbailey wrote:But they list the Jazz Big Band Collection for sale (I was terribly wrong about the price -- it's a whopping $259 dollars more, and that's a special deal for Finale users!) so they could include a tickler about how they'll be releasing an update patch of

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Ah, what I do is create a finale file, which then, for playback, goes via my MIDI to my Roland J35 Keboard, thence to my stereo amp and speaker system, whence I hear it. Sorry I didn't clarify that. Dean On Jul 14, 2005, at 11:44 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Dean M. Estabrook schrieb:

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-13 Thread Tyler Turner
--- Lee Actor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone who is currently using GPO with Finale 2005 tell me how useful from a practical standpoint the subset of GPO that is shipping with Finale 2006 is compared to the full version? In other words, how much do you depend on the patches not

RE: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-13 Thread ronan
Hi Lee, I am currently using the full GPO with Finale 2004--and I can't wait for Finale 2006. As I understand it, about 100 GPO instruments are included with F2006--and that means, to me, that they can be loaded directly from Finale. It seems that the GPO instruments missing from the cut down

RE: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-13 Thread Tyler Turner
--- ronan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lee, I am currently using the full GPO with Finale 2004--and I can't wait for Finale 2006. As I understand it, about 100 GPO instruments are included with F2006--and that means, to me, that they can be loaded directly from Finale. It seems that

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Tyler Turner schrieb: Sections strings are solid, but I'm not sure about how well the solo strings can stand on their own or in small ensembles (string quartets, etc.). Not to take anyone's illusions away, but I have just been trying to make the full GPO imitate a string quartet. To be

RE: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-13 Thread Lee Actor
Turner Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:17 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO --- Lee Actor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone who is currently using GPO with Finale 2005 tell me how useful from a practical standpoint the subset of GPO that is shipping with Finale

Re: [Finale] RE: Finale 2006 - MakeMusic's response

2005-06-27 Thread Kurt Gnos
I really hoped Finale would get professional again and fix the EPS support after about 10 years...:-( I ordered it believing this would happen, but I guess I will have to switch to Sibelius finally... (They got it to work, so they really must be the better programmers). Sh*t! I NEED EPS

Re: [Finale] RE: Finale 2006 - MakeMusic's response

2005-06-26 Thread Tyler Turner
Wouldn't you think that fixes would come before features in a development cycle? Existing bugs, new bugs and new features are all addressed concurrently during the development cycle. When they start developing new features in an existing area of the program, they are often pulling open old

Re: [Finale] RE: Finale 2006 - MakeMusic's response

2005-06-25 Thread Richard Yates
Well, this is all speculation on my part, of course. But, first, I am talking about EPS not PDF. I can make PDFs. Even if a Microsoft competitor to EPS were only as successful as WMA vs. MP3 that would be fine with me. After all, I can make a WMA and send it to just about anyone in the world and

Re: [Finale] RE: Finale 2006 - MakeMusic's response

2005-06-25 Thread dhbailey
Richard Yates wrote: Well, this is all speculation on my part, of course. But, first, I am talking about EPS not PDF. I can make PDFs. Even if a Microsoft competitor to EPS were only as successful as WMA vs. MP3 that would be fine with me. After all, I can make a WMA and send it to just about

Re: [Finale] RE: Finale 2006 - MakeMusic's response

2005-06-25 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:58 AM 06/25/2005, dhbailey wrote: Garritan Personal Orchestra is supported, but only in WindowsXP (plus Mac, of course). I'd love to know why this supported in XP but not 2000. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] RE: Finale 2006 - MakeMusic's response

2005-06-24 Thread dhbailey
Richard Yates wrote: We do not have the list of fixed issues yet, as the program is not yet finished. That list will not be available until the program is shipping. Wouldn't you think that fixes would come before features in a development cycle? Not necessarily. Program code isn't a huge

Re: [Finale] RE: Finale 2006 - MakeMusic's response

2005-06-24 Thread Phil Daley
At 6/23/2005 08:33 PM, Richard Yates wrote: We do not have the list of fixed issues yet, as the program is not yet finished. That list will not be available until the program is shipping. Wouldn't you think that fixes would come before features in a development cycle? No, because adding new

Re: [Finale] RE: Finale 2006 - MakeMusic's response

2005-06-24 Thread David W. Fenton
On 24 Jun 2005 at 14:23, d. collins wrote: dhbailey écrit: And then there are the long-standing issues such as EPS export on the Windows side of things. If the developers haven't been able to fix it in the previous how many versions, what makes you think they've learned how for this

Re: [Finale] RE: Finale 2006 - MakeMusic's response

2005-06-24 Thread Tyler Turner
Regarding EPS, my hope is that when they're tearing things apart to get ready for Longhorn that this will be something that needs to get addressed. It's probably going to be a nightmarish year for them with two large platform changes arriving (Longhorn and Mac Intel), and there might be some deep

Re: [Finale] RE: Finale 2006 - MakeMusic's response

2005-06-24 Thread David W. Fenton
On 24 Jun 2005 at 11:31, Tyler Turner wrote: Regarding EPS, my hope is that when they're tearing things apart to get ready for Longhorn that this will be something that needs to get addressed. It's probably going to be a nightmarish year for them with two large platform changes arriving

Re: [Finale] RE: Finale 2006 - MakeMusic's response

2005-06-24 Thread Tyler Turner
--- David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Longhorn is *not* going to make their lives simpler, because MS is implementing a competitor to PDF in Longhorn, and perhaps this new standard will go beyond that towards doing what EPS does. MM is going to have to decide if they will

Re: [Finale] RE: Finale 2006 - MakeMusic's response

2005-06-24 Thread David W. Fenton
On 24 Jun 2005 at 13:10, Tyler Turner wrote: --- David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Longhorn is *not* going to make their lives simpler, because MS is implementing a competitor to PDF in Longhorn, and perhaps this new standard will go beyond that towards doing what EPS does.

Re: [Finale] RE: Finale 2006 - MakeMusic's response

2005-06-24 Thread Darcy James Argue
I'm actually kind of skeptical about that. I think that PDF is too well-established as a universal standard at this point. I think MS's attempt to impose their own proprietary alternative to PDF will go about as well as their attempt to impose WMA as an alternative to MP3 (i.e., not a

Re: [Finale] 2006 question

2005-06-23 Thread JohnBlane
In a message dated 6/23/05 12:41:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does "Embeded Fonts" mean that when you send Finale files, all fonts  that are in them will print correctly, whether or not they are  installed in the system of the recipient of the files Chuck - I believe it refers to

Re: [Finale] 2006 question

2005-06-23 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jun 23, 2005, at 11:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/23/05 12:41:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Does "Embeded Fonts" mean that when you send Finale files, all fonts  that are in them will print correctly, whether or not they are  installed in the system of the recipient

Re: [Finale] 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jun 22, 2005, at 5:50 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: the addition of better sounds will be nice. Though I just bought the whole GPO through their group buy :-/ An overall MIDI question I've had for years: If I have a snazzy set of sounds on my computer, create a MIDI file with them, and

Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look

2005-06-23 Thread Chuck Israels
I just looked a little more carefully at the 2006 enhancements and found one thing that will be useful to me: Smart Line libraries. For example, Bill Duncan has created some particularly useful Smart Shape devices that include more elements than Finale has in its libraries, like an 8va

Re: [Finale] 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Ken Durling
Not sure about the question: in the first place a MIDI file isn't made from sounds it' s just computer code. However, you could create a MIDI file which triggers your snazzy sounds and record the end product as a WAV or MP3 file, and post THAT and everyone would hear what you hear. Or am I

Re: [Finale] 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Andrew, MIDI files contain no audio data. They play back using whatever MIDI instruments the person playing back the file happens to have on their computer (or sound card). It's a like a player piano roll -- it plays back using the sound of whatever player piano you feed it through. If

Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look

2005-06-23 Thread Don Hart
on 6/23/05 1:48 PM, Chuck Israels at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just looked a little more carefully at the 2006 enhancements and found one thing that will be useful to me: Smart Line libraries. For example, Bill Duncan has created some particularly useful Smart Shape devices that include

Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look

2005-06-23 Thread Robert Patterson
: Thursday, June 23, 2005 08:06 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look on 6/23/05 1:48 PM, Chuck Israels at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just looked a little more carefully at the 2006 enhancements and found one thing that will be useful to me: Smart Line libraries

Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look

2005-06-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
at least, in versions of Finale all the way back to Fin2000. -Original Message- From: Don Hart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 08:06 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look on 6/23/05 1:48 PM, Chuck Israels at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look

2005-06-23 Thread Robert Patterson
So what is custom line? (I thought it too meant custom smart shape.) -Original Message- From: Darcy James Argue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 08:57 PM To: finale@shsu.edu, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look No. Smart line = custom

Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look

2005-06-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
.) -Original Message- From: Darcy James Argue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 08:57 PM To: finale@shsu.edu, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look No. Smart line = custom smart shape. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 23 Jun

Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look

2005-06-23 Thread Don Hart
libraries for a couple of years at least, in versions of Finale all the way back to Fin2000. -Original Message- From: Don Hart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 08:06 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] 2006 a closer look on 6/23/05 1:48 PM, Chuck

[Finale] Re: Finale 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account
Robert Patterson wrote: This issue of long-standing bugs being fixed points up a feature listed on the website that greets me with dismay. That is the Studio View Powerful Mixer feature. Some on this list are already salivating at the thought, but for all its possible value, I believe it is a

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Robert Patterson
Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote: Maybe, but on the other hand, the current situation in which we have little control over the levels of the internal sounds is just plain unacceptable. My lament is that they have expanded Finale's scope: not that they have improved playback. I

[Finale] RE: Finale 2006 - MakeMusic's response

2005-06-23 Thread Richard Yates
We do not have the list of fixed issues yet, as the program is not yet finished. That list will not be available until the program is shipping. Wouldn't you think that fixes would come before features in a development cycle? Richard Yates ___

Re: [Finale] 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Richard Yates
An overall MIDI question I've had for years: If I have a snazzy set of sounds on my computer, create a MIDI file with them, and post it to the internet, will someone listening to that file over the internet hear the same sounds, or just whatever MIDI sounds their own computer has? The

Re: [Finale] 2006

2005-06-23 Thread Ken Durling
A MIDI file is kind of like a score, really, which needs performers to make it audible - put the same string quartet parts in front of a middle school group and the Emerson Quartet and you're going to have two very different performances! Ken An overall MIDI question I've had for years:

Re: [Finale] 2006

2005-06-22 Thread Eric Dannewitz
No. I have not seen nor heard anything. Where did you get this info?? Chuck Israels wrote: Hi folks, Am I the only one who has seen the announcement of Finale 2006? There's usually a lot of discussion when these things are announced, and there seem to be some significant improvements

Re: [Finale] 2006

2005-06-22 Thread Eric Fiedler
Some info here: http://www.finalemusic.com/finale/ Fiedler Habsburger Verlag Frankfurt (Dr. Fiedler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 22.06.2005, at 21:34, Eric Dannewitz wrote: No. I have not seen nor heard

Re: [Finale] 2006

2005-06-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 22, 2005, at 3:28 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Hi folks, Am I the only one who has seen the announcement of Finale 2006? There's usually a lot of discussion when these things are announced, and there seem to be some significant improvements (along with the usual bells and whistles),

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