Re: [Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-19 Thread Joe Corneli
Note: this is a response to an email from Enrico Riboni. I was suggesting something more than having Fink become a GNU/Linux distribution -- I was suggesting that it should be a migration tool to go from OS X to a free software system. This is an order of magnitude more interesting, important,

Re: [Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-19 Thread Benjamin Reed
Joe Corneli wrote: 1. I think it would be great if Fink *would* offer a ppc GNU/Linux (or GNU/Darwin) distro, combined with tools that would de-install OS X. Fink should facilitate the transition to a wholly free software system. 1a. Fink should run under GNU/Linux (or GNU/Darwin).

Re: [Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-19 Thread Lloyd Budd
Hi Joe, Regarding 1. if you are looking for such a distro, check out: - Yellow Dog - Debian - Gentoo - Mandrake ... Fink would no longer be useful to me if it was such a project. For interests sake, what do you see as Fink's edge over these other distributions? 2. Can you provide more

Re: [Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-19 Thread Lloyd Budd
On 19-Feb-04, at 4:36, Joe Corneli wrote: Maybe I'm being lazy in that I'd like to use a migration tool -- but of course it isn't just that. I think Fink is a really fine package manager. Yes, Fink is a package manager *sic*, it is not a migration tool. I prefer it to Debian (at least when

Re: [Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-19 Thread Joe Corneli
I've already migrated to a distribution, it's called Fink on Mac OS X. This is not the full world of open source. --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD

Re: [Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-19 Thread Joe Corneli
I prefer it to Debian (at least when comparing the defaults). Please elaborate, this is a new one to me. Fink builds everything from source! This is like Gentoo but not like the default of Debian. If it is as easy on Debian as it is on Fink to change compile time options, then I would

Re: [Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-19 Thread Joe Corneli
Fink would no longer be useful to me if it was such a project. I don't see why not. I'm perfectly sure you could choose not to see anything related to GNU/Linux or GNU/Darwin, just like you can choose to see the unstable branch, or not. what do you see as Fink's edge over these other

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2004-02-19 Thread Robb Bean
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Re: [Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-18 Thread Darian Lanx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 James Gibbs wrote: On Feb 17, 2004, at 8:31 AM, Darian Lanx wrote: Dear Community. Is a membership something the Fink community would consider accepting? Absolutely not. I think this is a ridiculous idea. The beauty of fink is that it is

Re: [Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-18 Thread James Gibbs
On Feb 18, 2004, at 6:09 AM, Darian Lanx wrote: James Gibbs wrote: On Feb 17, 2004, at 8:31 AM, Darian Lanx wrote: Dear Community. Is a membership something the Fink community would consider accepting? Absolutely not. I think this is a ridiculous idea. The beauty of fink is that it is free.

Re: [Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-18 Thread Joe Corneli
1. I think it would be great if Fink *would* offer a ppc GNU/Linux (or GNU/Darwin) distro, combined with tools that would de-install OS X. Fink should facilitate the transition to a wholly free software system. 1a. Fink should run under GNU/Linux (or GNU/Darwin). 2. Fink should

[Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-17 Thread Darian Lanx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Dear Community. Some of us, including me and Chris (main Chris) have been working very hard to get Fink under the legal umbrella of a non profit organization. The ultimate goal is to have an IRS 501(c)(3) tax-exempt corporation in the United

Re: [Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-17 Thread Darian Lanx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 David R. Morrison wrote: Here's what makes me very uncomfortable about memberships right now. In my view, one of the key components of Fink is broken. We've lost the ability to create and keep up-to-date a stable tree of packages which have

Re: [Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-17 Thread David R. Morrison
We have plenty of hardware for making bindists. That is not the problem. The problem is ensuring the quality of the bindist. That's why we haven't had a bindist for 10.3 yet, since the quality of the 10.3/stable tree is in quite a bit of doubt. To address this takes the time of volunteers.

Re: [Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-17 Thread Darian Lanx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 David R. Morrison wrote: We have plenty of hardware for making bindists. That is not the problem. Ok, thatis new for me. I will take that into account then. The problem is ensuring the quality of the bindist. That's why we haven't had a

Re: [Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-17 Thread David R. Morrison
Darian Lanx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] However, if you really need more help with this, then why don't you talk to me? There is always a way to put some massive marketing into this, asking for help while pulling all the strings of teh sources I have acquired lately The request was

Re: [Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-17 Thread Darian Lanx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 David R. Morrison wrote: Darian Lanx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] However, if you really need more help with this, then why don't you talk to me? There is always a way to put some massive marketing into this, asking for help while pulling

Re: [Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-17 Thread Jan Dockx
I don't agree. I will never be able to convince my CFO to become a Fink member, not even if we were contributing. Fink is fantastic, no doubt, but not important enough to go through the motions of bureaucracy -- and whatever the price, paying means bureacracy. Furthermore, Fink is fantastic

Re: [Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-17 Thread James Gibbs
On Feb 17, 2004, at 8:31 AM, Darian Lanx wrote: Dear Community. Is a membership something the Fink community would consider accepting? Absolutely not. I think this is a ridiculous idea. The beauty of fink is that it is free. Charging money would turn fink into just another software company.

Re: [Fink-users] Fink Community, your opinion is needed your Input wanted.

2004-02-17 Thread Ryan Verner
On 18/02/2004, at 7:20 AM, Jan Dockx wrote: I suggest hooking up with a big brother. Let's contact Debian and ask to use their infrastructure. Debian is our big brother, right? Let's ask them permission to change the name to Debian/Fink. Ooh. That's going to be *fun*. Debian's policies, for