Re: [Fis] Are there 3 kinds of motions in physics and biology?

2018-05-07 Thread Michel Petitjean
hen I can explain more efficiently. However, I let Sung explain about his own post :) Best regards, Michel. 2018-05-07 19:55 GMT+02:00 Michel Petitjean : > Dear Karl, > Yes I can hear you. > About symmetry, I shall soon send you an explaining email, privately, because > I do not w

Re: [Fis] Are there 3 kinds of motions in physics and biology?

2018-05-07 Thread Michel Petitjean
Dear Karl, Yes I can hear you. About symmetry, I shall soon send you an explaining email, privately, because I do not want to bother the FISers with long explanations (unless I am required to do it). However, I confess that many posts that I receive from the FIS list are very hard to read, and ofte

Re: [Fis] Are there 3 kinds of motions in physics and biology?

2018-05-07 Thread Michel Petitjean
. Entropy, 2003, 5[3], 271--312. (available in open access) Best regards, Michel. Michel Petitjean MTi, INSERM UMR-S 973, University Paris 7, CNRS SNC 9079 35 rue Helene Brion, 75205 Paris Cedex 13, France. Phone: +331 5727 8434; Fax: +331 5727 8372 E-mail: petitjean.chi...@gmail.com (preferred

Re: [Fis] Welcome to Knowledge Market and the FIS Sci-coins

2018-03-22 Thread Michel Petitjean
Dear Arturo, Sorry for my naive question, but isn't the named set theory something different from the set theory? Best, Michel. 2018-03-22 7:48 GMT+01:00 : > Dear Mark, > the named set theory does not solve the Russell paradox. > Therefore it would be better to use, in such approaches, the best t

Re: [Fis] I do not understand some strange claims

2017-11-09 Thread Michel Petitjean
/Key%20concepts%20170709.pdf Anybody can read it (3 text pages + 2 pages of refs). Yes there are pseudo-sciences all around the world, and they should be criticized. I like to do that, sometimes... Best regards, Michel Michel Petitjean MTi, INSERM UMR-S 973, University Paris 7, 35 rue Helene

Re: [Fis] mind-mind

2017-11-01 Thread Michel Petitjean
that what we see by using the eyes. Information is that what we do not see by using the eyes, but we see by using the brain; because it is the background to that what we see by using the eyes." All my best, Michel. Michel Petitjean MTi, INSERM UMR-S 973, University Paris 7, 35 rue Helene Br

Re: [Fis] Principles of IS

2017-09-30 Thread Michel Petitjean
al. Playing again with words, some people introduced the term information back in thermodynamics, thus concluded that information is physical. In my opinion it is not a good practice: it adds confusion. Best regards, Michel. Michel Petitjean MTi, INSERM UMR-S 973, University Paris 7, 35 rue Helene Br

Re: [Fis] INFORMATION: JUST A MATTER OF MATH

2017-09-15 Thread Michel Petitjean
a unifying definition of information is still a challenge. But is it feasible? Is it desirable? I don't know... Best regards, Michel. Michel Petitjean MTi, INSERM UMR-S 973, University Paris 7, 35 rue Helene Brion, 75205 Paris Cedex 13, France. Phone: +331 5727 8434; Fax: +331 5727 8372 E

Re: [Fis] Never mind

2016-01-26 Thread Michel Petitjean
etween the invitation and the rejection. Best regards, Michel Petitjean MTi, INSERM UMR-S 973, University Paris 7, 35 rue Helene Brion, 75205 Paris Cedex 13, France. Phone: +331 5727 8434; Fax: +331 5727 8372 E-mail: petitjean.chi...@gmail.com (preferred), michel.petitj...@univ-paris-dider

[Fis] Tragedy in USA

2015-12-05 Thread Michel Petitjean
Dear All, Please let me address my condolences to the families of the victims of the killing at San Bernardino. Here follows a list : (partial; apologies for the forgotten items) Afghanistan, Australia, Belgium, Cameroon, Denmark, India, Indonesia, Irak, Egypt, France, Mali, Nigeria, Pakistan,

[Fis] Again and again...

2015-11-24 Thread Michel Petitjean
Dear All, A few days after the attack in Bamako, Tunis is attacked. Again and again innocent people are killed. Terrorism never ends. Let me address my condolences to the families of the victims. Sadly, Michel. ___ Fis mailing list Fis@listas.unizar.es ht

Re: [Fis] Tragedy in France

2015-11-18 Thread Michel Petitjean
Dear Chuan, Many thanks for this so wonderful poem ! It is so nice. It is a masterpiece. With all my best, Michel. (To Pedro: I'm very grateful to you for having let me to post this beautiful poem discarding the rules of the Fis list) 2015-11-18 15:51 GMT+01:00 赵川 : > > The be

Re: [Fis] Tragedy in France

2015-11-17 Thread Michel Petitjean
Dear Julio, Many thanks for your kind support. French people much appreciate the solidarity of Brasil. I see the blue, white and red colors appeared in Rio and at a large number of places all around the world, and I much appreciate it. I can tell that this feeling is the same than the one my compat

Re: [Fis] Tragedy in France

2015-11-17 Thread Michel Petitjean
ichel. Michel Petitjean MTi, INSERM UMR-S 973, University Paris 7, 35 rue Helene Brion, 75205 Paris Cedex 13, France. Phone: +331 5727 8434; Fax: +331 5727 8372 E-mail: petitjean.chi...@gmail.com (preferred), michel.petitj...@univ-paris-diderot.fr http://petitjeanmichel.fr

Re: [Fis] Information and Locality Introduction

2015-09-12 Thread Michel Petitjean
Dear Loet, Variance is a parameter which can be computed for the distribution of any real random variable having a finite moment of order 2. It includes Normal, Binomial, Poisson, Exponential, any distribution with bounded support, etc. However, some statistical tests about the variance assume norm

[Fis] Information and OA

2015-08-31 Thread Michel Petitjean
). Thus, deciding to classify a publisher as predatory or not is difficult, and the result of this decision can hide a complex reality that should be examined. Your opinions are welcome. Best regards, Michel. Michel Petitjean MTi, INSERM UMR-S 973, University Paris 7, 35 rue Helene Brion, 75205 Paris

[Fis] MDA 2012: a great time !

2012-07-10 Thread Michel Petitjean
h academic organizations, most being related to Information Science and neighbouring fields. All my best, Michel. Michel Petitjean, MTi, INSERM UMR-S 973, University Paris 7 35 rue Helene Brion, 75205 Paris Cedex 13, France. Phone: +331 5727 8434; Fax: +331 5727 8372 E-mail: petitjean.chi...@gmail.com

Re: [Fis] Chemo-informatics as the source of morphogenesis - both practical and logical.

2011-10-17 Thread Michel Petitjean
Dear Loet and dear Jerry, 2011/10/17 Loet Leydesdorff : > Dear Jerry, >> ... > It may be easiest to raise some questions: > > 1. What is the equivalent in chemo-informatics of a bit of information? Can > this be operationalized as a formula like Shannon's H? > 2. Can one compute with this formula

Re: [Fis] Information as form conveyed by data

2011-10-04 Thread Michel Petitjean
Dear Dick, Replying to the following two questions may help: (1) Is there information in the situation there is no data ? (2) If yes, an example would be great; If no, is there information if no data is conveyed ? Best, Michel. 2011/10/4 Dick Stoute : > This is my first post to this list - so my a

Re: [Fis] Chemical information: a field of fuzzy contours ?

2011-10-03 Thread Michel Petitjean
Karl did an interesting remark. Yes, "circle", "distance", "equal", etc. are terms understood by everybody. But it often happened that mathematicians attribute definitions to terms used in a non math context. E.g., a circle is a set of points in the Euclidean plan lying at a given distance from a p

Re: [Fis] Chemical information: a field of fuzzy contours ?

2011-09-29 Thread Michel Petitjean
Thanks Loet, Karl, Gavin, and Robert, for your contributions. One of the main result of the debate is that, even when focussing on a specific field such as cheminformation, it is necessary to deal with physics, mathematics, sociology, and even with biology. That's ok with me: I like transdisciplina

Re: [Fis] Chemical information: a field of fuzzy contours ?

2011-09-26 Thread Michel Petitjean
Dear FISers, I thank very much Robin, Xueshan, Stan, and Karl for their examples of information, that I summarized below: *** Robin: Of course, there is no "law" or formula that relates a bit of information to, say, quarks, spin, or whatever. These are different ways of looking at the same thin

Re: [Fis] Chemical information: a field of fuzzy contours ?

2011-09-24 Thread Michel Petitjean
Dear FISers, Many thanks to Xueshan Yan for these three examples of cheminformation. I agree that among the various cheminformation concepts, some are technological. E.g., the Infonortics conferences (the 2011 one held in Barcelona: http://www.infonortics.com/call-11.html, http://www.haxel.com/ici

Re: [Fis] Chemical information: a field of fuzzy contours ?

2011-09-23 Thread Michel Petitjean
Dear FISers, Pedro raises several points. Among them: 1. "Chemoinformatics" or "Cheminformatics" ? Both terms are encountered. I would say that unless some authority takes a decision, both terms will continue to be used. 2. Despite I gave an example of what could be cheminformation in a concrete

Re: [Fis] Chemical information: a field of fuzzy contours ?

2011-09-19 Thread Michel Petitjean
Dear Loet, Thanks for your very good reply. Yes information cannot be found as res extensa, justs as mathematics: mathematics exist in our head, and can be communicated, can be taught, etc., but do not exist as concrete objects. However, starting from data (and databanks), we can extract knowledge

Re: [Fis] Chemical information: a field of fuzzy contours ?

2011-09-19 Thread Michel Petitjean
Dear Gavin, Information Theory is a specific subfield of Probability Theory applied to Information Sciences. It was used in the 70's in cheminformatics by F. McLafferty (mass spectrometry), A. Dijkstra (infrared spectra databases), etc. Would you reduce Information Science to Information Theory ?

Re: [Fis] Chemical information: a field of fuzzy contours ?

2011-09-18 Thread Michel Petitjean
Dear Stan, I would not insert an 'organic realm' in the hierarchy: it is part of the chemical realm, but it is broader than expected. The rules of Organic Chemistry are not universal as the theorems of mathematics are: many exceptions exist, at least due to the existence of multifunctional compound

Re: [Fis] Chemical information: a field of fuzzy contours ?

2011-09-17 Thread Michel Petitjean
Dear Joe, dear FISErs, An organic chemist is able to predict a number of properties from the structural formula, including much about reactivity of the compound. But as you know, doing that properly is extremely difficult in a number of cases, because the rules governing reactivity are much more c

[Fis] Chemical information: a field of fuzzy contours ?

2011-09-16 Thread Michel Petitjean
close relation of information science(s) with databases, in general. If not, where is information ? May be in our head, and not only it can be communicated (e.g., teaching), but also it can be stored (not trivial to do properly). During centuries it was stored in books. Now, it is in computer

[Fis] MDA 2012, first call for papers

2011-09-12 Thread Michel Petitjean
(USA) Sergey Shpectorov (UK) Kokichi Sugihara (Japan) Koen Vanhoof (Belgium) Cedric Villani (France) (Fields Medal 2010) Michel Deza (France) (michel.d...@ens.fr) Krassimir Markov (Bulgaria) (mar...@foibg.com): contact for local organization questions Michel Petitjean (France) (petitjean.chi

Re: [Fis] Dr. Muguet obituary

2010-06-02 Thread Michel Petitjean
institutions and organizations, at the regional, national, or transnational level. I add my sincere condolences. Michel. Michel Petitjean, tripleC Board Member MTi, INSERM UMR-S 973, University Paris 7 35 rue Helene Brion, 75205 Paris Cedex 13, France. Phone: +331 5727 8434; Fax: +331 5727 8372 E-mail

[Fis] The Assymetry of Information

2009-11-12 Thread Michel Petitjean
clear the asymmetry between the vendor of something you don't need and you: the vendor needs your money, and it is why he delivers his "information". It is rarely good for you. Information is received ? The question is: why the sender indeed sent information ? Michel Petitjean, C

[Fis] Symmetry Festival 2009 / 2-nd circular

2009-02-10 Thread Michel Petitjean
etween the arts and the sciences # Symmetry principles in architecture and design # Origami in science and art # Symmetries and visualisation # Symmetry in bioinformatics # Symmetry in Linguistics # Education and symmetry I hope to meet you in Budapest! Best regards, Michel. Michel Petitjean, DS

[Fis] information(s)

2008-12-06 Thread Michel PETITJEAN
ish native FISers give their opinion about that ? (2) Please can some FISers from non English-speaking countries tell us how is the situation in their own language ? Thank you very much. Michel. Michel Petitjean, DSV/iBiTec-S/SB2SM (CNRS URA 2096), CEA Saclay, bat. 528, 91191 Gif-sur-Yvette Ced

[Fis] Symmetry thematic issues / call for papers

2008-10-22 Thread Michel PETITJEAN
Thank you very much. Best regards, Michel Petitjean, Editor-in-Chief http://petitjeanmichel.free.fr/itoweb.petitjean.html ___ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis

[Fis] Symmetry Festival 2009 / First circular

2008-10-18 Thread Michel PETITJEAN
-meetings.html Proceedings: accepted papers will be published in the Journal "Symmetry: Culture and Science" (ISSN 0865-4824). http://symmetry.hu/aus_journal_content_abs.html More information: please contact the Conference Chair: Prof. Gyorgy Darvas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Best regard

[Fis] posted for testing

2008-06-11 Thread Michel PETITJEAN
Greetings! Michel. ___ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis

[Fis] Journal call for papers (ISSN 0865-4824)

2008-01-12 Thread Michel Petitjean
l#SE Your contributions are welcome (to be submitted directly to the Guest Editors). Please feel free to publicize this announcement. Thank you very much. Michel Petitjean, Editor-in-Chief. ___ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es http://webmail.unizar.

[Fis] Call for papers / Symmetry and Entropy

2007-12-18 Thread Michel Petitjean
To: Subj: Call for papers / Symmetry and Entropy Dear Colleague: We are happy to announce and invite submissions to the forthcoming topical issue on Symmetry and Entropy to appear in Symmetry: Culture and Science (ISSN 0865-4824). This special issue will include contributions emphasizing symmet

[Fis] Re: Re: info & meaning

2007-10-14 Thread Michel Petitjean
To: fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: [Fis] Re: Re: info & meaning Dear Marcin, The situation is different for information and for entropy. Bob discussed about entropy, and I agree with his view. However, despite that the term "information" is used in information theory (a highly specialized part of

[Fis] Re: info & meaning

2007-10-14 Thread Michel Petitjean
uations in two mathematical models: one of these models is applied to physical science, the other is applied to communication science. I cannot see more connection between these entropies, but may be some other people do. Michel Petitjean, Editor-in-Chief of SCS, ISSN 0865-4824 http://symmetry.hu/

[Fis] QI and probabilities

2006-05-27 Thread Michel Petitjean
such a space exists, and if the formula is violated, thus I would not speak about a probability space in this context. And if so, what could be the << probability >> rules indeed working in the quantum context ? Best regards, Michel, Michel Petitjean, Email: [EMA

[Fis] QI and probabilities

2006-05-22 Thread Michel Petitjean
probabilities. Best regards, Michel Petitjean, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ITODYS (CNRS, UMR 7086) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 rue Guy de la BrossePhone: +33 (0)1 44 27 48 57 75005 Paris, France. FAX : +33 (0)1 44 27 68 14 http

Re: [Fis] QI questions

2006-05-17 Thread Michel Petitjean
d B when A and B exist, although A and B are not themselves interacting. Michel Petitjean, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ITODYS (CNRS, UMR 7086) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 rue Guy de la BrossePhone: +33 (0)1 44 27 48 57 75005 Paris, France.

[Fis] QI questions

2006-05-16 Thread Michel Petitjean
indicates something on the second particle just because they are interacting ? Michel Petitjean, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ITODYS (CNRS, UMR 7086) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 rue Guy de la BrossePhone: +33 (0)1 44 27 48 57 75005 Paris, France.