Are you saying Karl that Information theory is the glue that binds energy and
entropy production?
or the the fabric behind these two concept?
If so what is the bridging qualitative and quantitative propositions and
formulae for this binding?
It's quite something to say this, because one of the
what
underlies the theory of Geometricdynamics.(Relativity theory).?? How so I
would not know.
Gavin
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Gavin Ritz garr...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
Are you saying Karl that Information theory is the glue that binds energy and
entropy production
production.
Then
cannot be used to explain the Reality of Nature.
Regards
Gavin
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Hi there Guy
I'm at a loss still about information you mention below.
If one talks about waves, light, sound these are all energy (frequency)
concepts. Chemistry and physics are really only about energy, entropy and
transduction's and conversions of energy in one form or the other of matter.
Hi Pedro
I'm unable to send this list any email.
Regards
Gavin
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Can you specify exactly what this Logic in Reality is?
Its framework?
Its connectives?
Its categorical-identity?
Reagrds
Gavin
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I watched a BBC documentary on the weekend with a friend who recommended it.
It was a really interesting and well presented programme.
Some very far out stuff about the creation of life.
However what I observed again (now more than ever before) that the DNA
molecule is an information carrying
At 01:05 AM 2011/03/28, Gavin Ritz wrote:
I watched a BBC documentary on the weekend with a friend who recommended it.
It was a really interesting and well presented programme.
Some very far out stuff about the creation of life.
However what I observed again (now more than ever before
Ted
Thank you Mark. This promises to be interesting.
My view may best be introduced by stating that I believe we are in the
business of creating a new science that will depend on new abstractions.
These abstractions will extend from the notion of information as a first
class citizen, as opposed
Information on its own discreet zeros and one's also don't have any meaning
other that the ones we attached to it.
A one in our counting system really is a mental creation only.
''One'' finger has more meaning, ''one'' finger in mum's pie has another and
'one'' finger in mums pie and then
Hi there Joseph
Can you show me where information is in chemistry?
What part of chemistry is chemical information?
Im less concerned about a unifying definition of information but rather I
would like to see some evidence and experiments for biological information.
So far I havent
There is also an aspect of chemical information that is relevant to
biologists more than chemists. As I proposed in my book on Meaningful
Information (Springer 2011), this can be defined as detected patterns of
matter or energy that have an effect on the detecting entity (i.e. cause a
change in
I agree with you both.
The declarative statements (4 statements in 2.4.1 Digital Computer versus
Brain: Are Neurons and bits really that different?) that are the proof of
the entire premise are unable to be proved, have no tests or evidence and
are taken as self evident.
This path is a dead end.
This (b) model can be used to describe a range of activity from Shannon type
communication to biological (DNA) activity,
DNA and information have nothing to do with each other.
but I am not sure it can be applied to chemical activity.
That's what DNA is a molecule.
To my un-informed way
and translate meaningfully between them.
However this means, as a minimum, accepting the existence and validity of
both, as well as the possibility in principle of some areas of overlap,
without conflation.
Best,
Joseph
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Message from Gavin Ritz
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Gavin Ritz garr...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
Stan, John list
Hi FISers
Can anyone show me a calculus for Information relating to biological systems?
And if so show me the relationship with conceptual mathematics?
Regards
Gavin
Dear FISers:
Pedro and Plamen raise good and welcomed points regarding the nature of
physics, information, and biology.
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