del's called that a Miracle),
>>and
>> its price: the non computability of most predicate on most machines
>> behaviors (like halting), and the loss of control and the art of
>>letting go
>> the things which go without saying.
>>
>> The universal (Löbian) ma
. DEACON ; fis
Subject: Re: [Fis] What is “Agent”?
Here is an interesting recent treatment of autonomy.
Alvaro Moreno and Matteo Mossio: Biological Autonomy: A Philosophical
and Theoretical Enquiry (History, Philosophy and Theory of the Life Sciences
12);
Springer, Dordrecht, 2015, xxxiv + 221
les and agency of social institutions as two limit cases?
>
>
> Agency of elementary particles? I am not sure this would not make all the
> number relations into an agent. Social institution are closer, perhaps even
> more the corporations, but none are really autonomous. I don't k
on behalf of Loet
Leydesdorff
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Date: Friday, 20 October 2017 at 08:40
To: 'Bob Logan' , 'fis' >
Subject: Re: [Fis] What is “Agent”?
Dear Bob and colleagues,
I agree with the choice element. From
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Date: Friday, 20 October 2017 at 08:40
To: 'Bob Logan' mailto:lo...@physics.utoronto.ca>>,
'fis' mailto:fis@listas.uniz
Best wishes,
Joseph
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Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Fis] What is ³Agent²?
Dear Terry, Bob, Loet
Thank you fo
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Date: Friday, 20 October 2017 at 08:40
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'fis' mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es>>
Subject: Re: [Fis] What is “Agent”?
Dear Bob and colleagues,
I agree with the choice element. From a sociological perspective, agenc
don;
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http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYJ&hl=en
From: Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Bob Logan
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 6:11 AM
To: Terrence W. DEACON
Cc: fis
Sub
he case would have to
forcibly be dismissed.
This has been my second post this week.
Koichiro Matsuno
From: Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es
<mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es>] On Behalf Of Alex Hankey
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 6:42 AM
To: Arthur Wist mai
ent
>>> atoms and molecules could come to implement the centripetality of Bob
>>> Ulanowicz at long last under the guise of chemical affinity unless the case
>>> would have to forcibly be dismissed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>This has been my
f chemical affinity unless the case
>> would have to forcibly be dismissed.
>>
>>
>>
>>This has been my second post this week.
>>
>>
>>
>>Koichiro Matsuno
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>>
>>
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>>
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>> *From:* Fis [mai
>
> *From:* Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] *On Behalf Of *Alex
> Hankey
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 19, 2017 6:42 AM
> *To:* Arthur Wist ; FIS Webinar <
> Fis@listas.unizar.es>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fis] What is “Agent”?
>
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>
> David Chalmers's ana
, October 19, 2017 6:42 AM
To: Arthur Wist ; FIS Webinar
Subject: Re: [Fis] What is “Agent”?
David Chalmers's analysis made it clear that if agents exist, then they are as
fundamental to the universe as electrons or gravitational mass.
Certain kinds of physiological structure support &#
David Chalmers's analysis made it clear that if agents exist, then they are
as fundamental to the universe as electrons or gravitational mass.
Certain kinds of physiological structure support 'agents' - those
emphasized by complexity biology. But the actual subject has to be
non-reducible and fund
Dear Jose, dear Loet, dear Krassimir, dear Alex, dear Pedro, dear All,
I sum up answers to Loet, and many others in this answer to Jose, to
avoid too much posts, but also I am in a very busy period.
On 16 Oct 2017, at 01:34, Jose Javier Blanco Rivero wrote:
Dear Krassimir, dear all,
I have
Dear Krassimir, Dear FIS,
I suspect one might find a way to answer this question about what
constitutes an agent in this paper by J.H. van Hateren:
https://arxiv.org/abs/1407.8314
Entitled: "What does Maxwell's demon want from life? When information
becomes functional and physical"
(which also
Dear Krassimir,
In agreement or partial agreement with most responses, I see the kernel of
agency as autocatalysis, by virtue of the centripetality that dynamic
engenders.
Autocatalysis is a subset of feedbacks wherein each link in a loop
benefits the next member. It is easy to show that such act
From: Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Jose Javier Blanco
Rivero
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 8:35 AM
To: Krassimir Markov ; Fis,
Subject: Re: [Fis] What is “Agent”?
Dear Krassimir, dear all,
I have noticed that some descriptions of information make use of
Information exists at all levels of Agents.
Good luck,
Gyuri
On 2017.10.15. 23:27, Krassimir Markov wrote:
Dear FIS Colleagues,
After nice collaboration last weeks, a paper Called “Data versus
Information” is prepared in very beginning draft variant and already is
sent to authors for refining
Dear All,
I particularly approve of theJose's comment that:
" following D. Hofstadter, H. von Foerster, N. Luhmann and others we
could think of a agent/observer as a self-referential loop."
That is because I show that such loops occur at the locus of control of
biological systems where the m
Dear Krassimir, dear all,
I have noticed that some descriptions of information make use of
anthropocentric metaphors and that might be misguiding (for instance,
subjective and objective information (Sung)). Agent is a concept that
retains some sort of action-theoretic background but at the same ti
Dear FIS Colleagues,
After nice collaboration last weeks, a paper Called “Data versus
Information” is prepared in very beginning draft variant and already is
sent to authors for refining.
Many thanks for fruitful work!
What we have till now is the understanding that the information is some
more t
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