Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-23 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Gordana and colleagues, Your quotation "But I would rather risk such reproaches than accept the present situation, in which philosophers argue only with dead biologists and biologists only with dead philosophers... " is quite funny and descriptive. In my terms, the recombination of knowl

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-22 Thread Gavin Ritz
, 23 March 2011 10:09 a.m. To: joe.bren...@bluewin.ch; Loet Leydesdorff; fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror Dear Joseph, Thank you for this precise clarification. I agree completely and I also follow tensions and changes in our discussi

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-22 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Leydesdorff; fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: AW: RE: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror Dear Gordana, Thank you for your very pertinent illustration of what Logic in Reality "is". There are (at least) two dynamics possible, 1) the tension between two existing f

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-22 Thread joe.bren...@bluewin.ch
ons are real is illustrated almost every day in these discussions . . . Best regards, Joseph Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: gordana.dodig-crnko...@mdh.se Datum: 21.03.2011 08:40 An: "Loet Leydesdorff", "joe.bren...@bluewin.ch", "fis@listas.unizar.es"

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-21 Thread Steven Ericsson-Zenith
On Mar 20, 2011, at 4:18 PM, joe.bren...@bluewin.ch wrote: > ... I am convinced that for further progress in information, let alone other > matters, some recognition of the limitations of Peirce may have to be > recognized. John's statement that "pragmatics means action" can be applicable > to

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-21 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Loet Leydesdorff Sent: den 21 mars 2011 08:04 To: joe.bren...@bluewin.ch; fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror To paraphrase Antonio Salieri's famous "Prima la musica, dopo le parole&quo

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-21 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
To paraphrase Antonio Salieri's famous "Prima la musica, dopo le parole", I say "first reality, then the signs". Dear Joseph: “allegro, ma non troppo”! In the 18th century, “nature” is still considered as God’s creation and therefore has priority to our (human) wordings and signings. Thus

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-20 Thread Gavin Ritz
. To: colli...@ukzn.ac.za; Pedro C. Marijuan; fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror   Dear John, Pedro, Jerry and All,   Fortunately or unfortunately, I am convinced that for further progress in information, let alone other matters, some recogn

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-20 Thread joe.bren...@bluewin.ch
-epistemic approaches, follow. To paraphrase Antonio Salieri's famous "Prima la musica, dopo le parole", I say "first reality, then the signs". Thank you and best wishes, Joseph Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: colli...@ukzn.ac.za Datum: 20.03.2011 23:0

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate

2011-03-20 Thread John Collier
At 06:09 PM 2011/03/17, Pedro C. Marijuan wrote: Dear FISers, Thanks to Loet for his modest proposal "Foundations of the Science of (DIS) Order"... (when managing the list I really agree!). The comments by Jerry are much appreciated, indeed: I am eagerly waiting for opinions and criticisms on the

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate

2011-03-17 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FISers, Thanks to Loet for his modest proposal "Foundations of the Science of (DIS) Order"... (when managing the list I really agree!). The comments by Jerry are much appreciated, indeed: I am eagerly waiting for opinions and criticisms on the "knowledge recombination" theme. However, c

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate---John Collier

2011-03-16 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Message from John Collier Mensaje original Asunto: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Fecha: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:29:17 +0200 De: John Collier Para: Pedro C. Marijuan A response to Jerry A series of responses to recent posts of James, Gavin

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate, vol. 547, issue 1

2011-03-03 Thread James Hannam
Hi Jerry, Thank you for your reply. I have to admit that I am not entirely clear about all the points that you are making, so please forgive me if I have barked up the wrong tree at any point. You note Aristotle's foundation role in logic. I completely agree that he still forms the base upon