At 6:19 PM 06/27/2015, Loet Leydersdorff wrote:
Remains the need to specify:
1. The first difference [cf. Shannon's information bits];
2. The second difference [cf. Brillouin's negentropy];
[KM] Loet, if you stick to first-order logic, there would be no need for
recruiting an
From: John Collier [mailto:colli...@ukzn.ac.za]
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 11:10 AM
To: l...@leydesdorff.net; 'Koichiro Matsuno'; 'fis'
Subject: Re: [Fis] It-from-Bit and information interpretation of QM
Sorry Loet, but I just don't see the need for an observer.
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From: Loet Leydesdorff
Date:27/06/2015 10:00 (GMT+02:00)
To: 'Koichiro Matsuno' ,John Collier ,'fis'
Subject: RE: [Fis] It-from-Bit and information interpretation of QM
Koichiro: "In order to make them decidable or meaningful, some qualifier must
definitely be
o Matsuno
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 9:04 AM
To: 'John Collier'; 'fis'
Subject: Re: [Fis] It-from-Bit and information interpretation of QM
At 4:00 AM 06/27/2015, John Collier wrote:
I also see no reason that Bateson’s difference that makes a difference needs to
At 4:00 AM 06/27/2015, John Collier wrote:
I also see no reason that Bateson’s difference that makes a difference needs to
involve meaning at either end.
[KM] Right. The phrase saying “a difference that makes a difference” must be a
prototypical example of second-order logic in that the
Dear Marcus,
Thank you for this simple and absolutely essential intervention. Allowing
ourselves the freedom to use the same term—'information' which is the
defining term for this entire enterprise—for such different relationships
as intrinsic signal properties and extrinsic referential and normat
arcus Abundis'; 'fis'
Subject: Re: [Fis] It-from-Bit and information interpretation of QM
Dear Marcus and colleagues,
Katherine Hayles (1990, pp. 59f.) compared this discussion about the definition
of “information” with asking whether a glass is half empty or half full.
Shannon-t
Dear Marcus and colleagues,
Katherine Hayles (1990, pp. 59f.) compared this discussion about the definition
of “information” with asking whether a glass is half empty or half full.
Shannon-type information is a measure of the variation or uncertainty, whereas
Bateson’s “difference which mak
Dear all,
I think that Wheeler's "it from bit" was the great step in physics, it was the
basis of modern information interpretations
of QM, due to Zeilinger and Brukner, and Quantum subjective probability
interpretation of QM, QBism of Fuchs.
yours, andrei
Andrei Khrennikov, Professor of A