Re: [Flashcoders] Nested clip mouse over

2013-05-21 Thread Eric E Dolecki
clip.clip.addEventListener( ... Eric On May 21, 2013, at 5:17 PM, [ p e r c e p t i c o n ] percepti...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know how to get the mouse over of a nested clip ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

2013-05-21 Thread Kevin Newman
Why? The answer has to do with Adobe's adherence to the ECMAScript working standard that they were basing AS3 on. At the time (before the ECMAScript 4 process fell apart), the body determined that private constructors were not needed, so adobe built this restriction into AS3. Private

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

2013-05-21 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
This is very interesting to me. I don't know how that all works in a real-case scenario yet, but I will. ;) When I get into design patterns I think I may revisit this post. Thanks Kevin. Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com On May 21, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kevin Newman

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

2013-05-21 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Again, I am shown the great generosity of this list. Much thanks Marco. Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com On May 21, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: Thanks Marco. Got your email. Will check it when I get home tonight. Best, Karl Sent from

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

2013-05-21 Thread Cédric Muller
For some more insights (though ... not much .. .and hey baby, is that Java over there ?) you can check this thread (they are speaking about private and protected classes, but the reading is interesting) http://www.coderanch.com/t/410134/java/java/private-protected-class hth, Cedric Why? The

Re: [Flashcoders] AIR

2013-05-20 Thread David Hunter
I'm still using it, and always get good feedback from clients. I'd recommend it, although I hadn't considered whether adobe might stop supporting it. David Hunter www.davidhunterdesign.com +44 (0) 7869 104 906 @DHDPIC On 19 May 2013 15:08, Hans Wichman hans.wich...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John,

RE: [Flashcoders] AIR

2013-05-20 Thread Paul Steven
I am also using it and can highly recommend it. I have developed 6 apps using Flash and Air, all of which are in the Apple app store and some on the Android market place too. Paul Steven www.mediakitchen.co.uk -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] AIR

2013-05-20 Thread Peter Ginneberge
content created today will still run in the future, independent of where air itself is going. Unless you're using the HTML component to load external (http) content which you have no control over. Webkit (the browser engine AIR uses) currently doesn't support HTML 5 very well. For instance,

Re: [Flashcoders] AIR

2013-05-20 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
Webkit is dragging its feet, is exactly why Google pulled away from Webkit and has gone over to their render engine Blink. Apple is not interested in pushing HTML5 acceptance in webkit, just like they didn't want Flash around either. They want you buying apps through the App/iTunes store and

Re: [Flashcoders] AIR

2013-05-20 Thread John McCormack
Thank you for responding. I had considered delivering educational content through PDFs as well but it looks as though AIR is a safer bet. John ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] AIR

2013-05-20 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
I have built approximately a dozen AIR apps for a educational publishing house that deliver on PC and MAC. With minimal changes, mostly fileIO (saving and loading previous game) it took me about a day to convert each app to run on an iPad, beta test and then submit to the iTunes store for

Re: [Flashcoders] AIR

2013-05-20 Thread John McCormack
That sounds very good. Is it hard to get the public's interest in them? I have sold CDs into the education market. Another is on the way: decimals fractions msi (beta)... http://www.easypeasy.co.uk/atm/ I really need to be selling cheaply to a wider market and AIR, rather than C++, will

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

2013-05-20 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Quick two part question. One: why doesn't ActionScript 3 allow private classes? Two: why is writing public class a best practice if private class does not exist? I could not find an explination in the books I am studying so I thought I'd ask here. TIA. Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm

RE: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

2013-05-20 Thread Rick Hassen
Hi Karl, One: AS3 does allow private classes. Just not as the constructor class of the main file. ( I am not sure if subclasses can have private constructors but everything else can be private )Two: Private classes are a best practice, Internal is also good, public only when necessary to create

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

2013-05-20 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
Or subscribe to http://www.lynda.com Excellent training tutorials on tons of software. Very in-depth, but you do pay for it. If you know AS2, check out www.gotoandlearn.com. Many free tutorials on specific tasks, but you'll see them working and their AS3 code, so you can start making the

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

2013-05-20 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Thank you John. Yes, I have already watched some really good tuts on gotoandlearn and plan to watch more when I start working on my project. My book is from lynda.com too. Going to invest in Moocks book as suggested earlier as well. Just need to gen some funds. :) Karl DeSaulniers Design

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

2013-05-20 Thread Ktu
you can have public class, internal class (limited to package), and you can make pseudo private classes by declaring a class in the same file as another class, but outside the package. the main reason you write 'public class' is because the _default_ is internal. if you simply say class MyClass

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

2013-05-20 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
Yeah, we all have the bad problem of paying the rent and eating. :) I know just what you mean. Good luck and like someone said before, we can't teach you AS3, but when you have specific problems or questions, feel free to ask the group. We've all needed help at one time or another and this

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

2013-05-20 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Thank you Ktu. That is what I was looking for. Much thanks, Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com On May 20, 2013, at 10:58 PM, Ktu wrote: you can have public class, internal class (limited to package), and you can make pseudo private classes by declaring a class in

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

2013-05-19 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
In place of void? so like... function someFunc():Number { //return a number } function someFunc():String { //return a string } Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com On May 19, 2013, at 12:26 AM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote: Void was AS2 and wasn't really

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

2013-05-19 Thread Hans Wichman
Karl, no harm intended, but do yourself and us a favor and get something like Essential Actionscript 3 from Moock, it will save you lots and lots of unnecessary self inflicted punishment :). That said, AS3 is much more about (strong) typing than AS2 was. In that line of thinking, you need to

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

2013-05-19 Thread Henrik Andersson
Hans Wichman skriver: That said, AS3 is much more about (strong) typing than AS2 was. In that line of thinking, you need to specify exactly what types of parameters go into a method/function and what it returns, even if that what is nothing. The type of Nothing is this respect is void.

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

2013-05-19 Thread Paul A.
On 19/05/2013 09:18, Hans Wichman wrote: Karl, no harm intended, but do yourself and us a favor and get something like Essential Actionscript 3 from Moock, it will save you lots and lots of unnecessary self inflicted punishment :). Excellent advice. Don't try and get to grips with the

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

2013-05-19 Thread mike g
Just wondering, has Colin Moock put forward any thoughts re. Flash/Actionscript's future direction? On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Paul A. p...@ipauland.com wrote: On 19/05/2013 09:18, Hans Wichman wrote: Karl, no harm intended, but do yourself and us a favor and get something like

[Flashcoders] AIR

2013-05-19 Thread John McCormack
Hi there. I would like to produce some educational material using AIR but am feeling very insecure about its future. Could you possibly let me know how active you are in producing content deliverable through AIR. Thanks John ___ Flashcoders

Re: [Flashcoders] AIR

2013-05-19 Thread Hans Wichman
Hi John, content created today will still run in the future, independent of where air itself is going. I wouldnt worry too much bout it, but that might be just me :) best h Sent from my iPad On 19 mei 2013, at 14:39, John McCormack j...@easypeasy.co.uk wrote: Hi there. I would like to

Re: [Flashcoders] AS2: SWF Decompiler Recommendations

2013-05-18 Thread John McCormack
http://www.buraks.com/asv/ John ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

[Flashcoders] flickering buttons

2013-05-18 Thread [p e r c e p t i c o n]
Hi Gang, really stupid question. I have a movieclip that animates on. in it are several movieclips representing buttons. When the the containing movieclip animates on...the clips it contains flicker even thought they have instance names. Does anyone have any ideas on why this is happening?

Re: [Flashcoders] flickering buttons

2013-05-18 Thread Paul A.
On 18/05/2013 15:19, [p e r c e p t i c o n] wrote: Hi Gang, really stupid question. I have a movieclip that animates on. in it are several movieclips representing buttons. When the the containing movieclip animates on...the clips it contains flicker even thought they have instance names.

Re: [Flashcoders] flickering buttons

2013-05-18 Thread [ p e r c e p t i c o n ]
I guess what I mean is after the containing clip is finished animating the clips within it are cycling through their rollover states Thanks On May 18, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Paul A. p...@ipauland.com wrote: On 18/05/2013 15:19, [p e r c e p t i c o n] wrote: Hi Gang, really stupid question.

Re: [Flashcoders] flickering buttons

2013-05-18 Thread Paul A.
I guess they're still playing. They won't stop just because the parent has stopped. If they are movieclip acting as buttons, at some stage you've told them to play. You do have a stop() in them to stop then cycling, don't you? On 18/05/2013 17:16, [ p e r c e p t i c o n ] wrote: I guess

Re: [Flashcoders] flickering buttons

2013-05-18 Thread [ p e r c e p t i c o n ]
Yes, code in the button class should stop it. I just wondered if the animation was creating individual instances and that was causing it to hinder the buttons is all. On May 18, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Paul A. p...@ipauland.com wrote: I guess they're still playing. They won't stop just because

Re: [Flashcoders] AS2: SWF Decompiler Recommendations

2013-05-18 Thread Jim Duber
Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I should have mentioned that I'm on a Mac so Burak's ASV isn't an option for me. Based on your comments, I tried the demo version of 'SWF Decompiler Trillix for Mac'. After a quick test confirmed that it did exactly what I needed, I paid for a full license

[Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

2013-05-18 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Hello fellow Flashers, Been a while. Ok, its time. I am now going to learn AS3 for real.. lol I know I know... please no comments from the peanut gallery. I am also making my first AS3 lesson an iPhone app. Whoo hoo! (Im a glutton for punishment I guess) So, I will have some more questions

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

2013-05-18 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
Void was AS2 and wasn't really necessary. void is AS3 and since it uses strong typing, very necessary. void will not return anything. If you want back values (numeric) use Number (text) use String, etc. John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc

[Flashcoders] sound.extract as visualizer?

2013-05-17 Thread Eric E. Dolecki
I've cracked Flash open again for some simulations and I am looking for some code that will allow me to provide a visualizer per audio file as it plays. computeSpectrum is out obviously. Anyone have any code that can provide super-simple (say scaling a clip) based on extracted values while the

Re: [Flashcoders] (no subject)

2013-05-17 Thread natalia Vikhtinskaya
Yes, I saw this link and that does not help. In Metro mode only Adobe.com plays!. I read a lot of questions about that problem in Internet without any working solution. I also found another problem. Flash plays only in Desk mode and only from Internet. If the html with flash runs from my pc flash

[Flashcoders] AS2: SWF Decompiler Recommendations

2013-05-17 Thread Jim Duber
Greetings all, I'm writing to ask for recommendations with regard to SWF decompilers. I had several large projects on my stolen laptop that were not backed up. These are AS2 projects authored in Flash CS4, with lots of timeline scripts all over the place, including several Flash Media Server

Re: [Flashcoders] AS2: SWF Decompiler Recommendations

2013-05-17 Thread Ross Sclafani
sothink swfdecompiler i do not envy you. Ross P. Sclafani design / technology / creative http://ross.sclafani.net http://www.twitter.com/rosssclafani http://www.linkedin.com/in/rosssclafani [347] 204.5714 let go of even your longest held beliefs, the only truth is in observation. On May 17,

RE: [Flashcoders] AS2: SWF Decompiler Recommendations

2013-05-17 Thread Rick Hassen
I used Trillix a few years ago with AS3 and was impressed with it. Everything was there just like a normal flash file. http://www.flash-decompiler.com/ From: ross.sclaf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS2: SWF Decompiler Recommendations Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 17:20:23 -0400 To:

Re: [Flashcoders] AS2: SWF Decompiler Recommendations

2013-05-17 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
+1 Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com On May 17, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Rick Hassen wrote: I used Trillix a few years ago with AS3 and was impressed with it. Everything was there just like a normal flash file. http://www.flash-decompiler.com/ From:

Re: [Flashcoders] IOS hooks

2013-05-16 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
Nobody on this list is doing IOS deliverables with navigation? I'm a little surprised. Bummer… :( John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On May 14, 2013, at 11:14 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote: Howdy, Does

Re: [Flashcoders] (no subject)

2013-05-16 Thread Oren B.
just fuck with that flshcoder shit, cant get rid of that group no metter what. how bout now? thanks. On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:43 AM, Kerry Thompson al...@cyberiantiger.bizwrote: It sounds like you need to upgrade to the latest Flash Player. I believe the latest version is 11.7.700.202, but

Re: [Flashcoders] (no subject)

2013-05-16 Thread Cédric Muller
fishcoder would have been a cool word in a cool world a godish thing to do just fuck with that flshcoder shit, cant get rid of that group no metter what. how bout now? thanks. On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:43 AM, Kerry Thompson al...@cyberiantiger.bizwrote: It sounds like you need to

Re: [Flashcoders] (no subject)

2013-05-16 Thread Bob Wohl
I dunno man, seems like it would be a bit fishy. =/ On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Cédric Muller flashco...@benga.li wrote: fishcoder would have been a cool word in a cool world a godish thing to do just fuck with that flshcoder shit, cant get rid of that group no metter what.

Re: [Flashcoders] Stolen Laptop: Adobe Support Laughable

2013-05-15 Thread Cédric Muller
Yep :( But the Cloud thing is quite interesting (I would consider the upgrade). Making users captive in a creative eco system. Cedric Le 15 mai 2013 à 05:51, John R. Sweeney Jr. a écrit : If they won't help you, that's probably your best bet. Just get CS4 disk or the digital files (which

Re: [Flashcoders] Stolen Laptop: Adobe Support Laughable

2013-05-15 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Which do you need? Mac or PC? I think I may still have a CS4 DMG for powerMac (pre Intel). Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com On May 15, 2013, at 1:22 AM, Cédric Muller wrote: Yep :( But the Cloud thing is quite interesting (I would consider the upgrade).

Re: [Flashcoders] Stolen Laptop: Adobe Support Laughable

2013-05-15 Thread Hans Wichman
Ah well, Adobe Support and Pricing where should I start :) http://www.innerdrivestudios.com/blog/miscellaneous/adobe-cs-6-error-code-5-exit-code-5 On 15/05/2013 08:33, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: Which do you need? Mac or PC? I think I may still have a CS4 DMG for powerMac (pre Intel). Best,

Re: [Flashcoders] Stolen Laptop: Adobe Support Laughable

2013-05-15 Thread Jim Duber
Thanks all for the replies and suggestions. I've contacted Karl offlist to see about that dmg. AR! Also, wanted to mention to Hans that after I described my problem to tech support (via text chat), one support tech replied, So, the problem is that you're seeing too many error messages?

[Flashcoders] (no subject)

2013-05-15 Thread natalia Vikhtinskaya
Hi To all problems that Flash has I found new. I tested some flash sites in Windows 8 Metro and found that some pages with flash sites does not play. Adobe.com plays well. What reason can be for other sites? Some sites said you need to upgrate you Flash player if they use swfobject, some just

Re: [Flashcoders] (no subject)

2013-05-15 Thread Kerry Thompson
It sounds like you need to upgrade to the latest Flash Player. I believe the latest version is 11.7.700.202, but I'm on Windows 7. I think it's unlikely, but there might be a different player for Windows 8. You can check it out at www.adobe.com. Just search on Flash Player. Cordially, Kerry

Re: [Flashcoders] (no subject)

2013-05-15 Thread Dave Watts
To all problems that Flash has I found new. I tested some flash sites in Windows 8 Metro and found that some pages with flash sites does not play. Adobe.com plays well. What reason can be for other sites? Some sites said you need to upgrate you Flash player if they use swfobject, some just

Re: [Flashcoders] (no subject)

2013-05-15 Thread Ross P. Sclafani
is the whitelist still in play? On May 15, 2013, at 3:59 PM, natalia Vikhtinskaya natavi.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hi To all problems that Flash has I found new. I tested some flash sites in Windows 8 Metro and found that some pages with flash sites does not play. Adobe.com plays well. What

Re: [Flashcoders] Stolen Laptop: Adobe Support Laughable

2013-05-15 Thread Jim Duber
I have a bit of good news with which to close out this thread. In frustration, I posted a brief rant on Adobe's Facebook page. I got immediate help (from Madison) and now have Flash CS4 installed, updated to Flash 10.0.02 and running. Lessons learned: (1) make frequent backups of all your

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-14 Thread David Hunter
I think the fact that this list is pretty inactive says it all. I'm freelancing at an agency right now who I make AIR apps for. I used to make a lot of them for a few years, but recently I think they are looking more and more at html5/js solutions. A few years ago I used to make Flash websites

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-14 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
This is probably a moot point, but being the platform flash is and its ability to manipulate objects and apply code to the interactions of the objects in an easy user friendly layout, it would seem that Adobe would look into enabling flash to pick if it used ActionScript or Javascript or even a

[Flashcoders] Stolen Laptop: Adobe Support Laughable

2013-05-14 Thread Jim Duber
My laptop was stolen last week. Adobe sucks! Their answer to my stolen laptop and software problem is that because I registered my software, they will give me upgrade pricing. The other companies I've contacted for help (Apple, MOTU) went out of their way to help me get back where I was.

Re: [Flashcoders] Stolen Laptop: Adobe Support Laughable

2013-05-14 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
If they won't help you, that's probably your best bet. Just get CS4 disk or the digital files (which are about 6 or 7 gig) and use your serial number. Sorry. :( John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On May 14,

[Flashcoders] IOS hooks

2013-05-14 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
Howdy, Does anyone know how to talk to the UINavigationController Class in IOS. I have an app in CS6 for iPad and now the client wants my to utilize the ActionBar at the top with the native back and done buttons, etc. Native Extensions doesn't seem to have what I need and I don't see any

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-10 Thread John McCormack
Alex Harui at Adobe had these interesting things to say: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/message/165517 John ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-10 Thread Kevin Newman
Gospel. Kevin N. On 5/9/13 11:18 AM, James Merrill wrote: From my perspective as a former Flash Developer at an Ad agency, I can't imagine us getting any more serious Flash work. These days we still use Flash for banner ads, but that's it. We've tried using Adobe Edge to do HTML5 banners, but

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-10 Thread Kevin Newman
That seems to be mostly about ASNext/AVMNext which has since been canned, and the developers moved not back to AS3, but to webkit and other web tech. Kevin N. On 5/10/13 7:20 AM, John McCormack wrote: Alex Harui at Adobe had these interesting things to say:

Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Air is dead (was Flash is dead)

2013-05-10 Thread Kevin Newman
The video performance in AIR on desktop is horrendous (no hardware accell - even through webkit), and on mobile it's only better if you go through stagevideo. For heavier lifting you'll need to use an ANE. Once you are down that road, why not just go all native, or look for a better

Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Air is dead (was Flash is dead)

2013-05-10 Thread Henrik Andersson
They would offer the flash runtime as a linkable library if they were serious about being middleware. Have you seen the ANE stuff? Complete rubbish compared to real native classes! They don't trust people to actually have access to all the useful stuff the runtime has. And it's not a matter of

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-09 Thread James Merrill
From my perspective as a former Flash Developer at an Ad agency, I can't imagine us getting any more serious Flash work. These days we still use Flash for banner ads, but that's it. We've tried using Adobe Edge to do HTML5 banners, but it was an awful experience. I rest ALL of my blame on Adobe

RE: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-09 Thread Marco Terrinoni
Everything James said. Also where once the Creative suite provided an entire pipeline for workflow I can honestly say we barely touch it anymore. A little FW and PS. Maybe a little Illustrator from time to time but that's it. With their new licensing model I think they're singing their own death

[Flashcoders] Re: Air is dead (was Flash is dead)

2013-05-09 Thread Randall Tinfow
On 5/9/13 11:19 AM, flashcoders-requ...@chattyfig.figleaf.com wrote: It's truly next to impossible to sell AIR apps right now. It depends. If you are developing video centric applications, I don't see a platform that comes close. WatchESPN is the perfect example. RT

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-09 Thread Mike Chambers
Check out CreateJS: http://www.createjs.com/ Includes the ability to export from Flash Pro. mike chambers m...@adobe.com On May 8, 2013, at 8:30 AM, Liu, Peter p...@geico.com wrote: Why can't Adobe make HTML5 as one of the publishing options, then we can continue to use Flash without the

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-09 Thread Jon Bradley
Nice to see you're still lurking, mesh :) CreateJS looks interesting and I've toyed with it a bit. Some of the new integration opportunities with Flash CC will be interesting to check out. However, it'll be primarily a toy and best for demo work until (and if) Adobe can create a clear

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-09 Thread James Merrill
Thanks for the link Mike, it seems that CreateJS is definitely a step in the right direction. I'm still not sold on Adobe's EDGE suite though... I am afraid that I'll always be skeptical of generated HTML after seeing Dreamweaver's design view. I also know from experience that including Adobe

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-09 Thread Weyert de Boer
I think the main issue with EDGE is that it generates such big files. I haven't been able to create a useful banner animation with it. Well, one that meets the maximum file size for a HTML5 banner. Only the Edge script is already bigger ;) Yes, I have to admit CreateJS looks promising. Thanks

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-09 Thread Jon Bradley
Yea, that's why it's excellent for demoware. The suite clearly allows creatives to demonstrate work and it adds a fair amount of value to prototyping/demo work. In the keynote, we saw Photoshop to Edge Reflow export – a very useful step to PS CC to export graphics quickly and have them in-place

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-09 Thread tom rhodes
Did adobe really advance the state of the art with flash though? they did stuff that the community was screaming for and had been for a long time. It was often buggy too. CreteJS is very nice, and it's only just started so I expect it to get better. For the web I've already done a couple of

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-09 Thread Mike Chambers
Just an fyi, but this is something that we are working on addressing. mike chambers m...@adobe.com On May 9, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Weyert de Boer w...@innerfuse.biz wrote: I think the main issue with EDGE is that it generates such big files. I haven't been able to create a useful banner

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-09 Thread tom rhodes
the differences in the flash and createJS apis? or the state of affairs? ;) no offence meant Mike, just the way it has played out has left a bitter taste in a lot of peoples mouths I'd reckon. I've personally lost income through it for sure as I now have to convince people that my skills are

[Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread natalia Vikhtinskaya
Hi What do you think about Flash technology in the near future? It is a pity but it seems that almost all clients have no interest in Flash projects. Do you think Adobe Flash has no future? Where to move from Flash? Thanks ___ Flashcoders mailing list

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Cédric Muller
Flash will be here for the years to come. Gladly, it isn't the sexy thing where trendy buzzers are. So, there are less projects, but projects are still flowing here, at least on the top high client part. I have no future, but Flash has one. Just look at all those HTML5 bad designs ;) Le 8 mai

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Kevin Newman
I think of Flash the way I think of Shockwave. There is still work out there, but not much, and less every minute. Kevin N. On 5/8/13 10:40 AM, natalia Vikhtinskaya wrote: Hi What do you think about Flash technology in the near future? It is a pity but it seems that almost all clients have

RE: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Liu, Peter
Why can't Adobe make HTML5 as one of the publishing options, then we can continue to use Flash without the need to learn another program? -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Newman Sent:

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Matt S.
It's effectively dead in the browser, except for some niche markets (game dev, children's content, educational), but it will survive for a long time, and has some potential in App and Game development across platforms. The real problem is that in the tech world, being perceived as last-years

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Henrik Andersson
Liu, Peter skriver: Why can't Adobe make HTML5 as one of the publishing options, then we can continue to use Flash without the need to learn another program? Because HTML5 doesn't do a good job at vector animation. The Flash runtime is quite powerful. And it is difficult to replicate so much

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
It's dead on the MOBILE browser. There are tons of sites still using the power of Flash. http://www.ebizmba.com/articles/best-flash-sites John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On May 8, 2013, at 10:31 AM, Matt

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread natalia Vikhtinskaya
Matt, If we need to have animation/cartoon or games on iPad and Android what is the programme for both platform? Do you mean that Flash can be used for both and that is why it has potential? What the tech word can offer in this situation? 2013/5/8 Matt S. mattsp...@gmail.com: It's effectively

[Flashcoders] Re: Flashcoders Digest, Vol 68, Issue 2

2013-05-08 Thread Sergey Gonchar
Flash is great! Stage3D(GPU drivers starting from 2006), DirectX11 support, workers, FlasCC, PlayScript. DEAD? is it a joke right? 3 billion devices, 10 top games in facebook are on the flash technology. we develop project http://realaxy.com/start. Yes, I don't deny JS and Unity3D are great, but

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Micky Hulse
Personally, I still love Flash. I miss that I don't use it as often these days. A few thoughts: 1. Correct me if I'm wrong, as it's not my industry, but isn't Flash still one of the popular tools to use for video animation? 2. I love AS3! I'd take AS3 and the Flash GUI over HTML5 any day. 3. We

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
And Director 12 came out a little while ago and compiles out to iPad. :) John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On May 8, 2013, at 12:16 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: Then again, I'd hate to see Flash go the way of

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Micky Hulse
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:31 AM, John R. Sweeney Jr. jr.swee...@comcast.net wrote: And Director 12 came out a little while ago and compiles out to iPad. :) Wha??? That blows my mind. I thought Director was dead. Shows what I know! :D So, is it any good these days? Director was a fun animation

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
Adobe didn't even make any kind of an announcement or anything. I'm a AUG manager and didn't hear about it there, but on LinkedIn when someone posted their 3D game, created in a pre-release version of D12 and running on a iPad. And running QUITE well I might add. :) John R. Sweeney Jr.

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Kevin Newman
On 5/8/13 1:16 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: Personally, I still love Flash. I miss that I don't use it as often these days. A few thoughts: 1. Correct me if I'm wrong, as it's not my industry, but isn't Flash still one of the popular tools to use for video animation? It was popular for certain types

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Kevin Newman
That's what I mean by I think of Flash as Directory/Shockwave. It's not dead, it's just not the job engine it was for a while. It's a much harder sell - but it's still possible, and still has its niches. I still think Adobe could do some things to make it easier, even if they don't actively

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Kevin Newman
That seems to be Adobe's general problem. They are very reactive, like used car salesmen. You want HTML5? Boy have we got HTML5! Clouds? We got clouds - on sale this week only! Technology companies can't succeed that way. Kevin N. On 5/8/13 1:58 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote: Adobe didn't

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
I don't think its a niche… Please tell me another software that I can build an app that runs on PC/MAC/Linux/iPad/Android/Web (non-mobile)? Till they have one, I can support all the platforms my clients want right now. John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
Right now there are over 25,000+ apps in the App store and/or iTunes. John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On May 8, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Kevin Newman wrote: heck AIR is - in fact, many still operate under the

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
I know many Flash developers that moved over to xCode or Java/Javascript. John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On May 8, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Kevin Newman wrote: Adobe not so much.

RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flashcoders Digest, Vol 68, Issue 2

2013-05-08 Thread Rick Hassen
We've used flash to develop apps for both ipad and android and it was a much better experience than using phonegap with html5 or cordova. wondering what you people think about flash cc being rebuilt from the ground up with 64 bit architecture. To me, it seems that adobe sees a future here as

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread natalia Vikhtinskaya
Right now there are over 25,000+ apps in the App store and/or iTunes. But they did not create in Flash I think. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Matt S.
Dead might have been too strong, admittedly. But it's a hard sell. Partly because every client has an iPad these days, and if their content doesn't work on their iPad, all hell breaks loose, so its easier to dumb it down to work with JS/CSS-based solutions. And yes, there are amazing Flash sites,

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
Of course the did!!! There are over 500,000 apps up in the store. The 25k+ are native Flash builds. John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On May 8, 2013, at 1:28 PM, natalia Vikhtinskaya wrote: But they did not

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
I've just brought 4 educational games (originally built) for the desktop, 2 where projectors apps and two where AIR. All four are up in the iTunes store for sale on iPads. I'm doing 6 more and then building one from scratch specifically for the iPad in Flash. Haven't done a website in three

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread mike g
Have a look at what this guy has to say on the topic, it's worth a read: (was posted Apr 26, 2013) http://duboiseric.wordpress.com/category/is-flash-dead/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

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