Re: [Flashcoders] Five3D
Also you may find this interesting: http://blog.barcinski-jeanjean.com/2008/05/16/vectorsvision-vectors- in-papervision3d/ Piers On 30 Jul 2008, at 00:22, Patrick J. Jankun wrote: Hi Glen, I went through my links, and found those: http://www.flashandmath.com/advanced/ http://www.flashdevils.com/trigonometry/ maybe this is gonna help you out, cheers, Patrick On Jul 30, 2008, at 12:19 AM, Glen Pike wrote: Hi, I am working with the Five3D library and have a question regarding cameras so if anyone is familiar with this or really good at explaining 3D math to 5 year old kids (I am feeling a bit dumb here). The Five3D library itself does not have a camera, but projects its objects straight into the scene. I would like to create a way of orbiting a single cube object, like with a camera, rather than rotating the object itself. My aim is to achieve the type of manipulation used with the globe here - http://www.dasai.es/ - where the globe rotation does not end up looking wrong from a user perspective when you are looking along the Y axis or flip when the cube is upside down - here is an early trial of mine showing the problems - http://glenpike.co.uk/play/cubetest.html I have not discounted using Papervision as it has cameras to do this, but the text rendering of Five3D is cleaner than bitmapped PV3D text and this is what I am looking for, so I would like to try and get the Five3D working if possible before I discount it. As the world only consists of one object, I am guessing it would be fairly trivial to create a fake camera with a single matrix, apply rotations to that matrix, then concatenate this matrix with the cube objects. I tried a couple of things, but am flailing a bit in the dark here and could do with some pointers if anyone has any ideas. My first try was to apply X Y rotations to a Matrix class - in Five3D - then do Matrix to Euler to get the X, Y Z rotations to apply to my 3D object (meaning I did not have to hack the library yet). I reckon I am going to have to dig deeper and manipulate the private matrix used by each 3D object in the library. I am assuming - maybe wrongly - that because I am wanting to orbit around the origin, which is also the centre of the cube, I can pretend my camera is also in the centre of the world, rather than transformed a distance from the cube. This would mean I just have to rotate the x y axes of my camera to get pitch roll, then apply this to my cube matrix. Question is, do I have to include the distance of the camera from my object in the calculations and do I have to have a look at point too, or can I cheat as these are always fixed? Apart from looking at PV3D's camera's and some hardcore Wikipedia entries, I don't have much to go on, so any information to get my head around this would be helpful - particularly some real dumbed down tutorials on Matrices, possibly Quaternions. (I fell asleep in my lessons on the former and never covered the latter...) Thanks in advance. Glen Glen Pike 01326 218440 www.glenpike.co.uk http://www.glenpike.co.uk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0207 631 3278 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Masking Effect
thnx! this.cachAsBitmap = true; did the trick! Without converting to a bitmap, just the lines as the mask. thnx again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2008 15:27 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Masking Effect you could convert the lines to fills (under object i believe) or you could use a bitmap (remember to use runtime bitmap caching) On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Sander Schuurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi cool list, I'm working on a masking effect and set it up with a mask MovieClip wich provide animated lines. Other masking effects work great when applied in the same way I am trying with this one. Only the other masking effects use Fills together with the lines. So my logic is saying me that lines don't trigger the mask of a DisplayObject and fills do. Am I correct? Is it possible otherwise to draw the lines to a bitmap object and have that as a mask? Or is a bitmap object always square when used as a mask? Thnx in advance, Sander ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
So i just found out i've to interview an AS guy tomorrow, anybody have any good questions that i should be asking? Cheers _ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger2_072008___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
I'd think the first one should be are they a member of this list. If the answer is yes, think up some more questions quick Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of alan skinner Sent: 30 July 2008 09:18 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee So i just found out i've to interview an AS guy tomorrow, anybody have any good questions that i should be asking? Cheers _ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messeng er2_072008___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
uhm... this list is not exactly private :) the interviewee may be on it as well you wouldn't want to spoil the fun, now would you ? --- On Wed, 7/30/08, alan skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: alan skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 11:17 AM So i just found out i've to interview an AS guy tomorrow, anybody have any good questions that i should be asking? Cheers _ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger2_072008___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
Alan Skinner wrote: So i just found out i've to interview an AS guy tomorrow, anybody have any good questions that i should be asking? Here are my favorites, at 4:30 in the morning: 1. How long have you been out on parole? 2. So, do you think you're going to beat that child porn rap? 3. Did that program you wrote for Al Quaeda really work as well as everybody says? 4. Have you ever worked for Microsoft? Cheers! Professor I. M. Gestopftmitscheiss ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
Don't ask questions. You won't learn anything. Make him code some stuff. Something tricky. Come up with something good. That is, if you care if they know how to code. Nevermind. You should ask him what his strengths and weaknesses are. Those are always good interview questions. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
Steven Sacks wrote: You should ask him what his strengths and weaknesses are. Those are always good interview questions. Yeah, but everybody knows how to answer what are your weaknesses. Obvious answer: I'm a perfectionist. I think you were on the right track. Ask to see code. Ask tough questions, specific to the job. How do you create a singleton? What is data binding? How do you feel about is-a vs. has-a. Does AS3 have multiple inheritance? Did you know that your fly is unzipped? Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
I've done some recruting and what surpised me was why some ppl even applied to the job when they clearly did not know how to code. One part of the questions was a small verbal programming test, I wrote a few questions about programming, ie, whats wrong with this syntax, how would you access this xmlnode from code etc... very useful to us to reflect the programming knowledge. Note we did not go on how correct the guy was but his way to handle it. HTH Christoffer Kevin Bowers skrev: I'd think the first one should be are they a member of this list. If the answer is yes, think up some more questions quick Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of alan skinner Sent: 30 July 2008 09:18 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee So i just found out i've to interview an AS guy tomorrow, anybody have any good questions that i should be asking? Cheers _ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messeng er2_072008___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
I didn't think you were allowed to talk about the CS3 certification questions? - Original Message - From: Kerry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Flash Coders List' flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee Alan Skinner wrote: So i just found out i've to interview an AS guy tomorrow, anybody have any good questions that i should be asking? Here are my favorites, at 4:30 in the morning: 1. How long have you been out on parole? 2. So, do you think you're going to beat that child porn rap? 3. Did that program you wrote for Al Quaeda really work as well as everybody says? 4. Have you ever worked for Microsoft? Cheers! Professor I. M. Gestopftmitscheiss ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't ask questions. You won't learn anything. Make him code some stuff. Something tricky. Come up with something good. That is, if you care if they know how to code. (for once!) I kind of agree with Steven. Talking to the interviewee - asking questions - _is_ important, because one of the most critical things you need to find out is whether they'll fit into your team, and getting into a decent conversation with them is one of the ways to judge that. But that's a whole different topic, and probably not one for this list. However to get an idea what their coding abilities are like, you can do worse than get them to write a couple of functions for you to do specific things. On paper. With a pencil. :-D A 'what's wrong with this syntax'? test is good, too. So is a 'what is this function meant to do?' - showing them a listing. You can also get a rough idea of their architectural/code organisation skills in a similar way, by detailing a simple system and getting them to throw together a rough diagram of how the classes in it might interact (UML or whatever, your choice). You'll still need to ask coding-related questions to get some idea of the breadth of their experience. Here it's good to ask specific questions, not general 'so, what about this whole MVC thing, then?'. Be more specific - and ask more about _why_ than _how_. If they don't understand the _why_, the how is often just a regurgitation of rote-learned stuff or what they might have read on Wikipedia today. At the end of the day, though, it very much depends what role you're trying to fill, how big your team is, what this guy's responsibilities are going to be, whether he'll have to talk to clients, etc. etc. HTH, Ian ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Re: AS3 - Eclipse FDT - Problem with Embed Fonts
Hi, I try whith a font from my file system and my problem is resolved but a new one is present. Now the error message is Main_impact.as(10): col: 42 Error: La définition de la classe de base FontAsset est introuvable. public class Main_impact extends mx.core.FontAsset Any ideas ? Thanks. 2008/7/29 david costard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List, I'm using Eclipse and FDT for an AS3 application. In this application I need to embed fonts. I search the correct technique in Joey Lott and in tutorial on the web. So in my class just before the constructor I write that : [Embed(source=assets/Arial Unicode MS.TTF, fontFamily=EaganFont, mimeType=application/x-font-truetype)] private var EAGAN : String; And when I try to generate the swf eclipse generate this error : -- Loading configuration file D:\work\nurun\environement\eclipse\flex_sdk_3\frameworks\flex-config.xml Recompile: D:\work\nurun\environement\workspaces\test\fonts\src\Main.as Reason: The source file wasn't fully compiled. Files changed: 0 Files affected: 1 D:\work\nurun\environement\workspaces\test\fonts\src\Main.as(14): Error: exception during transcoding: Unexpected exception encountered while reading font file '/D:/work/environement/workspaces/test/fonts/src/assets/Arial Unicode MS.TTF' [Embed(source=assets/Arial Unicode MS.TTF, fontFamily=EaganFont, mimeType=application/x-font-truetype)] D:\work\nurun\environement\workspaces\test\fonts\src\Main.as(14): col: 4: Error: unable to build font 'EaganFont' [Embed(source=assets/Arial Unicode MS.TTF, fontFamily=EaganFont, mimeType=application/x-font-truetype)] ^ D:\work\nurun\environement\workspaces\test\fonts\src\Main.as(14): col: 4: Error: Unable to transcode assets/Arial Unicode MS.TTF. ^ (fcsh) -- I've got the same errors if my var is a Class private var EAGAN : Class; Anyone had the solution of my problem ? Thank you. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
There's a company here in LA that gives you a choice of tests and you can take them home and work on them. I heard what one of the tests was at 1:00am late one night and I was so psyched about it that I ended up staying up til 5:30am doing it. I wasn't happy with my first solution, which worked but wasn't as elegant as I liked, so I refactored it until I was satisfied. The particular test I took I thought was a fantastic way to figure out somebody's problem solving skills. I heard the next day that most applicants failed that particular test, including the guy who told me about it! (I can imagine it causing the Flash player to have script timeout errors). I mean, you have to come up with a good challenge worth doing. You'll also get an idea of how passionate people are about coding by giving them a challenge. I want to interview at that company just so I can find out what their other tests are and take em, ha! Here's what you have to decide. What are you trying to determine about somebody's skillset? Do you do a lot of collision detection stuff? Are you more interested in design pattern knowledge? Once you know what the goal is, you can come up with a test that will demonstrate their skills in that area. No, I'm not going to tell you what the test is. :) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
at the end you need your work done in any case in specific time with the best performance. so, giving him tasks related to your work in real environment with ability to access internet on anything he needs will be the best way to decide how he will be useful for you -imo- Ibrahim On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't ask questions. You won't learn anything. Make him code some stuff. Something tricky. Come up with something good. That is, if you care if they know how to code. (for once!) I kind of agree with Steven. Talking to the interviewee - asking questions - _is_ important, because one of the most critical things you need to find out is whether they'll fit into your team, and getting into a decent conversation with them is one of the ways to judge that. But that's a whole different topic, and probably not one for this list. However to get an idea what their coding abilities are like, you can do worse than get them to write a couple of functions for you to do specific things. On paper. With a pencil. :-D A 'what's wrong with this syntax'? test is good, too. So is a 'what is this function meant to do?' - showing them a listing. You can also get a rough idea of their architectural/code organisation skills in a similar way, by detailing a simple system and getting them to throw together a rough diagram of how the classes in it might interact (UML or whatever, your choice). You'll still need to ask coding-related questions to get some idea of the breadth of their experience. Here it's good to ask specific questions, not general 'so, what about this whole MVC thing, then?'. Be more specific - and ask more about _why_ than _how_. If they don't understand the _why_, the how is often just a regurgitation of rote-learned stuff or what they might have read on Wikipedia today. At the end of the day, though, it very much depends what role you're trying to fill, how big your team is, what this guy's responsibilities are going to be, whether he'll have to talk to clients, etc. etc. HTH, Ian ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
if you do make a test, you have to give the applicant a chance to do it in a natural environment, like that test you did where you could take it home. If you're breathing down their neck, they may fail because of nerves more than anything else (i'm good in interviews but blank if put on the spot) On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: There's a company here in LA that gives you a choice of tests and you can take them home and work on them. I heard what one of the tests was at 1:00am late one night and I was so psyched about it that I ended up staying up til 5:30am doing it. I wasn't happy with my first solution, which worked but wasn't as elegant as I liked, so I refactored it until I was satisfied. The particular test I took I thought was a fantastic way to figure out somebody's problem solving skills. I heard the next day that most applicants failed that particular test, including the guy who told me about it! (I can imagine it causing the Flash player to have script timeout errors). I mean, you have to come up with a good challenge worth doing. You'll also get an idea of how passionate people are about coding by giving them a challenge. I want to interview at that company just so I can find out what their other tests are and take em, ha! Here's what you have to decide. What are you trying to determine about somebody's skillset? Do you do a lot of collision detection stuff? Are you more interested in design pattern knowledge? Once you know what the goal is, you can come up with a test that will demonstrate their skills in that area. No, I'm not going to tell you what the test is. :) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
agreed on that On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Ibrahim Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: at the end you need your work done in any case in specific time with the best performance. so, giving him tasks related to your work in real environment with ability to access internet on anything he needs will be the best way to decide how he will be useful for you -imo- Ibrahim On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't ask questions. You won't learn anything. Make him code some stuff. Something tricky. Come up with something good. That is, if you care if they know how to code. (for once!) I kind of agree with Steven. Talking to the interviewee - asking questions - _is_ important, because one of the most critical things you need to find out is whether they'll fit into your team, and getting into a decent conversation with them is one of the ways to judge that. But that's a whole different topic, and probably not one for this list. However to get an idea what their coding abilities are like, you can do worse than get them to write a couple of functions for you to do specific things. On paper. With a pencil. :-D A 'what's wrong with this syntax'? test is good, too. So is a 'what is this function meant to do?' - showing them a listing. You can also get a rough idea of their architectural/code organisation skills in a similar way, by detailing a simple system and getting them to throw together a rough diagram of how the classes in it might interact (UML or whatever, your choice). You'll still need to ask coding-related questions to get some idea of the breadth of their experience. Here it's good to ask specific questions, not general 'so, what about this whole MVC thing, then?'. Be more specific - and ask more about _why_ than _how_. If they don't understand the _why_, the how is often just a regurgitation of rote-learned stuff or what they might have read on Wikipedia today. At the end of the day, though, it very much depends what role you're trying to fill, how big your team is, what this guy's responsibilities are going to be, whether he'll have to talk to clients, etc. etc. HTH, Ian ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:42 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you do make a test, you have to give the applicant a chance to do it in a natural environment, like that test you did where you could take it home. I don't agree with taking it home. That gives too many opportunities to go away and copy the answer from somewhere else. I do agree with giving them some space without you standing over them. I don't agree with giving access to the internet. The tests should be designed to test general programming and design logical thought rather than knowledge of extensive APIs (even expert AS and Java coders are constantly referring to the API docs; I wouldn't penalise anyone for not knowing the exact list of parameters any given function takes - that's what code hinting is for). Anway, it's not exact syntax you're looking for (that may well stray under interview pressure). It's the general approach and getting them to explain why they're doing it that way. Ian ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
A mate of mine asked me to help him out with some code once, so I did an example for him, which I then found out was for an interview... I was a bit pd off about this, but in the end, my mate could not get his head around the code, so did not try to pass it off as his: Thing here is to have some time to go through the code before the interview - bearing in mind, that the solution may be somewhere between hand coding and compiled from the Internet :) I think a combination of asking someone to do a test in their own environment + a bit of on the spot challenges will give you a balanced view, you want someone who can go away and work at their comfort, but you may want someone who can do stuff under a little pressure too, although interviews are probably up there with exams, so take both results as a pinch of salt too. Asking someone to write code under pressure is harsh, but asking them to give you a more abstract solution / approach to a problem is not so bad. The best interviews for me to show off my abilities, from an interviewee perspective, involved talking to the boss and someone who new about coding. Also meeting the team I would be working with was good. The best interview like this included an informal lunch with some of the team where I was able to talk to them, have a bit of a laugh and was still assessed but in a lot more relaxing way :) Glen allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: agreed on that On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Ibrahim Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: at the end you need your work done in any case in specific time with the best performance. so, giving him tasks related to your work in real environment with ability to access internet on anything he needs will be the best way to decide how he will be useful for you -imo- Ibrahim On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't ask questions. You won't learn anything. Make him code some stuff. Something tricky. Come up with something good. That is, if you care if they know how to code. (for once!) I kind of agree with Steven. Talking to the interviewee - asking questions - _is_ important, because one of the most critical things you need to find out is whether they'll fit into your team, and getting into a decent conversation with them is one of the ways to judge that. But that's a whole different topic, and probably not one for this list. However to get an idea what their coding abilities are like, you can do worse than get them to write a couple of functions for you to do specific things. On paper. With a pencil. :-D A 'what's wrong with this syntax'? test is good, too. So is a 'what is this function meant to do?' - showing them a listing. You can also get a rough idea of their architectural/code organisation skills in a similar way, by detailing a simple system and getting them to throw together a rough diagram of how the classes in it might interact (UML or whatever, your choice). You'll still need to ask coding-related questions to get some idea of the breadth of their experience. Here it's good to ask specific questions, not general 'so, what about this whole MVC thing, then?'. Be more specific - and ask more about _why_ than _how_. If they don't understand the _why_, the how is often just a regurgitation of rote-learned stuff or what they might have read on Wikipedia today. At the end of the day, though, it very much depends what role you're trying to fill, how big your team is, what this guy's responsibilities are going to be, whether he'll have to talk to clients, etc. etc. HTH, Ian ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Glen Pike 01326 218440 www.glenpike.co.uk http://www.glenpike.co.uk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
The list of questions i always ask interviewees are the following, and this gives me a pretty good example of what they are like and what their skillset is. Test is always accompanied with a practical test we make up on the spot. The XML in Q16 is made up, you can create your own for this. Feel free to use this, Cheers, Sid 1 - write an event listener (normal and weak referenced) and handling function for a Sprite named 'beginQuestions' and listen for a mouse click. 2 - what does weak referenced mean in regards to event listeners? 3 - what is the difference between an object an an array? 4 - how doe you get cue point from vidio in AS3? And in AS2? 5 - briefly explain the various datatypes for numbers. 6 - how do you load an external file? 7 - draw a 20px by 20px Rectangle using the graphics API. 8 - which of the following cannot contain other display objects? Sprite, Shape, MovieClip, DisplayObjectContainer. 9 - which properties can you use to change the size of DisplayObjects? 10 - ENTER_FRAME is independant of an SWF's frame rate? True or false? 11 - XP is a type of which programming methology? 12 - why would you use a Singleton? 13 - what is the Document Class? 14 - create a new TextField instance, then add text it, then add some more text. 15 - what is the difference between public, private and protected. 16 - look at the piece of XML (see other sheet). How do i: - Get all of the page nodes as an XMLList. - Get node in showcase where the attribute id=1. 17 - listen for when the 'enter key' is pressed and trace out all questions are now done when the event happens. Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Re: AS3 - Eclipse FDT - Problem with Embed Fonts
Are you making mxml file with FDT?
mx.core.FontAsset is part of the Flex Framework if I'm not wrong. You can't
use it for Flash, like you can't use Tile, HBox or other part of the Flex
framework.
For flash with FDT
- you can load a SWF containing the fonts
- add a SWC containing your fonts in the compiler
In the compiler arguments add:
-include-libraries C:\Fonts.swc
- use the metadata tag Embed (not work in flash IDE, only with Flex SDK):
http://www.scottgmorgan.com/blog/index.php/2007/06/18/runtime-font-embedding
-in-as3-there-is-no-need-to-embed-the-entire-fontset-anymore/
A useful method to check what's embedded
public function showEmbeddedFonts():void {
trace(Embedded Fonts);
var fonts:Array = Font.enumerateFonts();
fonts.sortOn(fontName, Array.CASEINSENSITIVE);
for (var i:int = 0; i fonts.length; i++) {
trace(fonts[i].fontName + , + fonts[i].fontStyle);
}
}
Hope it helps.
Romu
www.soundstep.com
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of david
costard
Sent: 30 July 2008 10:41
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: [Flashcoders] Re: AS3 - Eclipse FDT - Problem with Embed Fonts
Hi,
I try whith a font from my file system and my problem is resolved but a new
one is present.
Now the error message is
Main_impact.as(10): col: 42 Error: La définition de la classe de base
FontAsset est introuvable.
public class Main_impact extends mx.core.FontAsset
Any ideas ?
Thanks.
2008/7/29 david costard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi List,
I'm using Eclipse and FDT for an AS3 application.
In this application I need to embed fonts.
I search the correct technique in Joey Lott and in tutorial on the web.
So in my class just before the constructor I write that :
[Embed(source=assets/Arial Unicode MS.TTF, fontFamily=EaganFont,
mimeType=application/x-font-truetype)]
private var EAGAN : String;
And when I try to generate the swf eclipse generate this error :
--
Loading configuration file
D:\work\nurun\environement\eclipse\flex_sdk_3\frameworks\flex-config.xml
Recompile: D:\work\nurun\environement\workspaces\test\fonts\src\Main.as
Reason: The source file wasn't fully compiled.
Files changed: 0 Files affected: 1
D:\work\nurun\environement\workspaces\test\fonts\src\Main.as(14): Error:
exception during transcoding: Unexpected exception encountered while
reading
font file '/D:/work/environement/workspaces/test/fonts/src/assets/Arial
Unicode MS.TTF'
[Embed(source=assets/Arial Unicode MS.TTF,
fontFamily=EaganFont, mimeType=application/x-font-truetype)]
D:\work\nurun\environement\workspaces\test\fonts\src\Main.as(14): col: 4:
Error: unable to build font 'EaganFont'
[Embed(source=assets/Arial Unicode MS.TTF,
fontFamily=EaganFont, mimeType=application/x-font-truetype)]
^
D:\work\nurun\environement\workspaces\test\fonts\src\Main.as(14): col: 4:
Error: Unable to transcode assets/Arial Unicode MS.TTF.
^
(fcsh)
--
I've got the same errors if my var is a Class
private var EAGAN : Class;
Anyone had the solution of my problem ?
Thank you.
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Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
hmmm - i didn't do bad (without looking stuff up) but i must say that i've not been asked to do a single as3 project since i started doing agency work - the only time i've done an as3 project was for an interactive cd so i could set my own target for the projector file. Most of the work i do in digital agencies has been targeted at flash player 8 or (even worse) 6 so AS2 has been more important than AS3. Under what sort of circumstances do you find that AS3 is used? a On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Sidney de Koning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The list of questions i always ask interviewees are the following, and this gives me a pretty good example of what they are like and what their skillset is. Test is always accompanied with a practical test we make up on the spot. The XML in Q16 is made up, you can create your own for this. Feel free to use this, Cheers, Sid 1 - write an event listener (normal and weak referenced) and handling function for a Sprite named 'beginQuestions' and listen for a mouse click. 2 - what does weak referenced mean in regards to event listeners? 3 - what is the difference between an object an an array? 4 - how doe you get cue point from vidio in AS3? And in AS2? 5 - briefly explain the various datatypes for numbers. 6 - how do you load an external file? 7 - draw a 20px by 20px Rectangle using the graphics API. 8 - which of the following cannot contain other display objects? Sprite, Shape, MovieClip, DisplayObjectContainer. 9 - which properties can you use to change the size of DisplayObjects? 10 - ENTER_FRAME is independant of an SWF's frame rate? True or false? 11 - XP is a type of which programming methology? 12 - why would you use a Singleton? 13 - what is the Document Class? 14 - create a new TextField instance, then add text it, then add some more text. 15 - what is the difference between public, private and protected. 16 - look at the piece of XML (see other sheet). How do i: - Get all of the page nodes as an XMLList. - Get node in showcase where the attribute id=1. 17 - listen for when the 'enter key' is pressed and trace out all questions are now done when the event happens. Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
Why not asking him sources and asks questions about his own sources? Why did you do it that way? Why did you do use that? Etc... You'll see both what is capable of by looking closely at his sources and see his skills by asking right questions about it. I can't think you won't find out that someone is faking sources when you'll ask precise questions about it. Anyway, if the guy does, he's going to lose the job after 2 days right? :) Romu www.soundstep.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sidney de Koning Sent: 30 July 2008 12:04 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee The list of questions i always ask interviewees are the following, and this gives me a pretty good example of what they are like and what their skillset is. Test is always accompanied with a practical test we make up on the spot. The XML in Q16 is made up, you can create your own for this. Feel free to use this, Cheers, Sid 1 - write an event listener (normal and weak referenced) and handling function for a Sprite named 'beginQuestions' and listen for a mouse click. 2 - what does weak referenced mean in regards to event listeners? 3 - what is the difference between an object an an array? 4 - how doe you get cue point from vidio in AS3? And in AS2? 5 - briefly explain the various datatypes for numbers. 6 - how do you load an external file? 7 - draw a 20px by 20px Rectangle using the graphics API. 8 - which of the following cannot contain other display objects? Sprite, Shape, MovieClip, DisplayObjectContainer. 9 - which properties can you use to change the size of DisplayObjects? 10 - ENTER_FRAME is independant of an SWF's frame rate? True or false? 11 - XP is a type of which programming methology? 12 - why would you use a Singleton? 13 - what is the Document Class? 14 - create a new TextField instance, then add text it, then add some more text. 15 - what is the difference between public, private and protected. 16 - look at the piece of XML (see other sheet). How do i: - Get all of the page nodes as an XMLList. - Get node in showcase where the attribute id=1. 17 - listen for when the 'enter key' is pressed and trace out all questions are now done when the event happens. Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
Very true :) A little test i always do is ask people what they think of themself on a scale of 1 to 10. Most good coders with +5 jears experience will give them selfs a 6 or a 7 and are very modest. Coders that think they are good (-3 years experience) will rate themself higher than they really are. This is practice proven. Those people leave during or after their trial period :) Sid On Jul 30, 2008, at 1:27 PM, Romuald Quantin wrote: Why not asking him sources and asks questions about his own sources? Why did you do it that way? Why did you do use that? Etc... You'll see both what is capable of by looking closely at his sources and see his skills by asking right questions about it. I can't think you won't find out that someone is faking sources when you'll ask precise questions about it. Anyway, if the guy does, he's going to lose the job after 2 days right? :) Romu www.soundstep.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sidney de Koning Sent: 30 July 2008 12:04 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee The list of questions i always ask interviewees are the following, and this gives me a pretty good example of what they are like and what their skillset is. Test is always accompanied with a practical test we make up on the spot. The XML in Q16 is made up, you can create your own for this. Feel free to use this, Cheers, Sid 1 - write an event listener (normal and weak referenced) and handling function for a Sprite named 'beginQuestions' and listen for a mouse click. 2 - what does weak referenced mean in regards to event listeners? 3 - what is the difference between an object an an array? 4 - how doe you get cue point from vidio in AS3? And in AS2? 5 - briefly explain the various datatypes for numbers. 6 - how do you load an external file? 7 - draw a 20px by 20px Rectangle using the graphics API. 8 - which of the following cannot contain other display objects? Sprite, Shape, MovieClip, DisplayObjectContainer. 9 - which properties can you use to change the size of DisplayObjects? 10 - ENTER_FRAME is independant of an SWF's frame rate? True or false? 11 - XP is a type of which programming methology? 12 - why would you use a Singleton? 13 - what is the Document Class? 14 - create a new TextField instance, then add text it, then add some more text. 15 - what is the difference between public, private and protected. 16 - look at the piece of XML (see other sheet). How do i: - Get all of the page nodes as an XMLList. - Get node in showcase where the attribute id=1. 17 - listen for when the 'enter key' is pressed and trace out all questions are now done when the event happens. Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
Hi allandt, As agencies we also have a advising role to play towards the customer, so we only do AS3 projects, hardly any AS2 (maybee some banners in FP8). So we try to advice/push the client towards AS3 projects, which, most of the times, is better for all parties invloved. Sid On Jul 30, 2008, at 1:24 PM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: hmmm - i didn't do bad (without looking stuff up) but i must say that i've not been asked to do a single as3 project since i started doing agency work - the only time i've done an as3 project was for an interactive cd so i could set my own target for the projector file. Most of the work i do in digital agencies has been targeted at flash player 8 or (even worse) 6 so AS2 has been more important than AS3. Under what sort of circumstances do you find that AS3 is used? a On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Sidney de Koning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The list of questions i always ask interviewees are the following, and this gives me a pretty good example of what they are like and what their skillset is. Test is always accompanied with a practical test we make up on the spot. The XML in Q16 is made up, you can create your own for this. Feel free to use this, Cheers, Sid 1 - write an event listener (normal and weak referenced) and handling function for a Sprite named 'beginQuestions' and listen for a mouse click. 2 - what does weak referenced mean in regards to event listeners? 3 - what is the difference between an object an an array? 4 - how doe you get cue point from vidio in AS3? And in AS2? 5 - briefly explain the various datatypes for numbers. 6 - how do you load an external file? 7 - draw a 20px by 20px Rectangle using the graphics API. 8 - which of the following cannot contain other display objects? Sprite, Shape, MovieClip, DisplayObjectContainer. 9 - which properties can you use to change the size of DisplayObjects? 10 - ENTER_FRAME is independant of an SWF's frame rate? True or false? 11 - XP is a type of which programming methology? 12 - why would you use a Singleton? 13 - what is the Document Class? 14 - create a new TextField instance, then add text it, then add some more text. 15 - what is the difference between public, private and protected. 16 - look at the piece of XML (see other sheet). How do i: - Get all of the page nodes as an XMLList. - Get node in showcase where the attribute id=1. 17 - listen for when the 'enter key' is pressed and trace out all questions are now done when the event happens. Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
Well it depends who you're working for; my company is not asking me any as2 code. Romu www.soundstep.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) Sent: 30 July 2008 12:24 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee hmmm - i didn't do bad (without looking stuff up) but i must say that i've not been asked to do a single as3 project since i started doing agency work - the only time i've done an as3 project was for an interactive cd so i could set my own target for the projector file. Most of the work i do in digital agencies has been targeted at flash player 8 or (even worse) 6 so AS2 has been more important than AS3. Under what sort of circumstances do you find that AS3 is used? a On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Sidney de Koning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The list of questions i always ask interviewees are the following, and this gives me a pretty good example of what they are like and what their skillset is. Test is always accompanied with a practical test we make up on the spot. The XML in Q16 is made up, you can create your own for this. Feel free to use this, Cheers, Sid 1 - write an event listener (normal and weak referenced) and handling function for a Sprite named 'beginQuestions' and listen for a mouse click. 2 - what does weak referenced mean in regards to event listeners? 3 - what is the difference between an object an an array? 4 - how doe you get cue point from vidio in AS3? And in AS2? 5 - briefly explain the various datatypes for numbers. 6 - how do you load an external file? 7 - draw a 20px by 20px Rectangle using the graphics API. 8 - which of the following cannot contain other display objects? Sprite, Shape, MovieClip, DisplayObjectContainer. 9 - which properties can you use to change the size of DisplayObjects? 10 - ENTER_FRAME is independant of an SWF's frame rate? True or false? 11 - XP is a type of which programming methology? 12 - why would you use a Singleton? 13 - what is the Document Class? 14 - create a new TextField instance, then add text it, then add some more text. 15 - what is the difference between public, private and protected. 16 - look at the piece of XML (see other sheet). How do i: - Get all of the page nodes as an XMLList. - Get node in showcase where the attribute id=1. 17 - listen for when the 'enter key' is pressed and trace out all questions are now done when the event happens. Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
i'm starting a new thread because i think that it might derail this one On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Sidney de Koning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi allandt, As agencies we also have a advising role to play towards the customer, so we only do AS3 projects, hardly any AS2 (maybee some banners in FP8). So we try to advice/push the client towards AS3 projects, which, most of the times, is better for all parties invloved. Sid On Jul 30, 2008, at 1:24 PM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: hmmm - i didn't do bad (without looking stuff up) but i must say that i've not been asked to do a single as3 project since i started doing agency work - the only time i've done an as3 project was for an interactive cd so i could set my own target for the projector file. Most of the work i do in digital agencies has been targeted at flash player 8 or (even worse) 6 so AS2 has been more important than AS3. Under what sort of circumstances do you find that AS3 is used? a On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Sidney de Koning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The list of questions i always ask interviewees are the following, and this gives me a pretty good example of what they are like and what their skillset is. Test is always accompanied with a practical test we make up on the spot. The XML in Q16 is made up, you can create your own for this. Feel free to use this, Cheers, Sid 1 - write an event listener (normal and weak referenced) and handling function for a Sprite named 'beginQuestions' and listen for a mouse click. 2 - what does weak referenced mean in regards to event listeners? 3 - what is the difference between an object an an array? 4 - how doe you get cue point from vidio in AS3? And in AS2? 5 - briefly explain the various datatypes for numbers. 6 - how do you load an external file? 7 - draw a 20px by 20px Rectangle using the graphics API. 8 - which of the following cannot contain other display objects? Sprite, Shape, MovieClip, DisplayObjectContainer. 9 - which properties can you use to change the size of DisplayObjects? 10 - ENTER_FRAME is independant of an SWF's frame rate? True or false? 11 - XP is a type of which programming methology? 12 - why would you use a Singleton? 13 - what is the Document Class? 14 - create a new TextField instance, then add text it, then add some more text. 15 - what is the difference between public, private and protected. 16 - look at the piece of XML (see other sheet). How do i: - Get all of the page nodes as an XMLList. - Get node in showcase where the attribute id=1. 17 - listen for when the 'enter key' is pressed and trace out all questions are now done when the event happens. Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] When to use AS3?
@Sidney: That's really interesting because at all the places I've worked (which isn't many - I've always done coding as a sideline and have only recently gone full-time), they seem to be utterly entrenched in FP8 (i guess using the old 'work to the last player' thinking). I personally would love to move the (non-banner) work to AS3 as it's a far more elegant way of working. I find that the clients tend to dictate it based on whatever plugin their IT department have set them up with. a NOTE: This is taken from the interview thread and I thought it might be worth having it's own one On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Sidney de Koning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi allandt, As agencies we also have a advising role to play towards the customer, so we only do AS3 projects, hardly any AS2 (maybee some banners in FP8). So we try to advice/push the client towards AS3 projects, which, most of the times, is better for all parties invloved. Sid On Jul 30, 2008, at 1:24 PM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: hmmm - i didn't do bad (without looking stuff up) but i must say that i've not been asked to do a single as3 project since i started doing agency work - the only time i've done an as3 project was for an interactive cd so i could set my own target for the projector file. Most of the work i do in digital agencies has been targeted at flash player 8 or (even worse) 6 so AS2 has been more important than AS3. Under what sort of circumstances do you find that AS3 is used? a On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Sidney de Koning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The list of questions i always ask interviewees are the following, and this gives me a pretty good example of what they are like and what their skillset is. Test is always accompanied with a practical test we make up on the spot. The XML in Q16 is made up, you can create your own for this. Feel free to use this, Cheers, Sid 1 - write an event listener (normal and weak referenced) and handling function for a Sprite named 'beginQuestions' and listen for a mouse click. 2 - what does weak referenced mean in regards to event listeners? 3 - what is the difference between an object an an array? 4 - how doe you get cue point from vidio in AS3? And in AS2? 5 - briefly explain the various datatypes for numbers. 6 - how do you load an external file? 7 - draw a 20px by 20px Rectangle using the graphics API. 8 - which of the following cannot contain other display objects? Sprite, Shape, MovieClip, DisplayObjectContainer. 9 - which properties can you use to change the size of DisplayObjects? 10 - ENTER_FRAME is independant of an SWF's frame rate? True or false? 11 - XP is a type of which programming methology? 12 - why would you use a Singleton? 13 - what is the Document Class? 14 - create a new TextField instance, then add text it, then add some more text. 15 - what is the difference between public, private and protected. 16 - look at the piece of XML (see other sheet). How do i: - Get all of the page nodes as an XMLList. - Get node in showcase where the attribute id=1. 17 - listen for when the 'enter key' is pressed and trace out all questions are now done when the event happens. Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] When to use AS3?
Good idea of the new thread. AS3 is definitely better in term of performance and stability, the Papervision3D guys can probably talk about, see the differences between the as2 and as3 version. AS3 is also a lot cleaner than AS2, easier to maintain IMHO. Another good way to see when to use AS3 would be reading this: http://gskinner.com/talks/as3workshop/ Hope it helps. Romu www.soundstep.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) Sent: 30 July 2008 12:49 To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] When to use AS3? @Sidney: That's really interesting because at all the places I've worked (which isn't many - I've always done coding as a sideline and have only recently gone full-time), they seem to be utterly entrenched in FP8 (i guess using the old 'work to the last player' thinking). I personally would love to move the (non-banner) work to AS3 as it's a far more elegant way of working. I find that the clients tend to dictate it based on whatever plugin their IT department have set them up with. a NOTE: This is taken from the interview thread and I thought it might be worth having it's own one On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Sidney de Koning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi allandt, As agencies we also have a advising role to play towards the customer, so we only do AS3 projects, hardly any AS2 (maybee some banners in FP8). So we try to advice/push the client towards AS3 projects, which, most of the times, is better for all parties invloved. Sid On Jul 30, 2008, at 1:24 PM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: hmmm - i didn't do bad (without looking stuff up) but i must say that i've not been asked to do a single as3 project since i started doing agency work - the only time i've done an as3 project was for an interactive cd so i could set my own target for the projector file. Most of the work i do in digital agencies has been targeted at flash player 8 or (even worse) 6 so AS2 has been more important than AS3. Under what sort of circumstances do you find that AS3 is used? a On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Sidney de Koning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The list of questions i always ask interviewees are the following, and this gives me a pretty good example of what they are like and what their skillset is. Test is always accompanied with a practical test we make up on the spot. The XML in Q16 is made up, you can create your own for this. Feel free to use this, Cheers, Sid 1 - write an event listener (normal and weak referenced) and handling function for a Sprite named 'beginQuestions' and listen for a mouse click. 2 - what does weak referenced mean in regards to event listeners? 3 - what is the difference between an object an an array? 4 - how doe you get cue point from vidio in AS3? And in AS2? 5 - briefly explain the various datatypes for numbers. 6 - how do you load an external file? 7 - draw a 20px by 20px Rectangle using the graphics API. 8 - which of the following cannot contain other display objects? Sprite, Shape, MovieClip, DisplayObjectContainer. 9 - which properties can you use to change the size of DisplayObjects? 10 - ENTER_FRAME is independant of an SWF's frame rate? True or false? 11 - XP is a type of which programming methology? 12 - why would you use a Singleton? 13 - what is the Document Class? 14 - create a new TextField instance, then add text it, then add some more text. 15 - what is the difference between public, private and protected. 16 - look at the piece of XML (see other sheet). How do i: - Get all of the page nodes as an XMLList. - Get node in showcase where the attribute id=1. 17 - listen for when the 'enter key' is pressed and trace out all questions are now done when the event happens. Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] When to use AS3?
Nice one :) As i said earlier; we also have advising roles to play. If a specific project needs specific technology, dont bend or sway for less. Try to convince/explain the client why. Especially if the concept comes from the developing party, they thought about it, they'll also make it. I know sometimes clients can be difficult, what i have noticed, as long as you explain why and show them figures, they'll go for it. Or tell them the competitors ARE using AS3, two seconds ... they'll reconsider ;) Sid On Jul 30, 2008, at 1:48 PM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: @Sidney: That's really interesting because at all the places I've worked (which isn't many - I've always done coding as a sideline and have only recently gone full-time), they seem to be utterly entrenched in FP8 (i guess using the old 'work to the last player' thinking). I personally would love to move the (non-banner) work to AS3 as it's a far more elegant way of working. I find that the clients tend to dictate it based on whatever plugin their IT department have set them up with. a NOTE: This is taken from the interview thread and I thought it might be worth having it's own one On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Sidney de Koning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi allandt, As agencies we also have a advising role to play towards the customer, so we only do AS3 projects, hardly any AS2 (maybee some banners in FP8). So we try to advice/push the client towards AS3 projects, which, most of the times, is better for all parties invloved. Sid On Jul 30, 2008, at 1:24 PM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: hmmm - i didn't do bad (without looking stuff up) but i must say that i've not been asked to do a single as3 project since i started doing agency work - the only time i've done an as3 project was for an interactive cd so i could set my own target for the projector file. Most of the work i do in digital agencies has been targeted at flash player 8 or (even worse) 6 so AS2 has been more important than AS3. Under what sort of circumstances do you find that AS3 is used? a On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Sidney de Koning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The list of questions i always ask interviewees are the following, and this gives me a pretty good example of what they are like and what their skillset is. Test is always accompanied with a practical test we make up on the spot. The XML in Q16 is made up, you can create your own for this. Feel free to use this, Cheers, Sid 1 - write an event listener (normal and weak referenced) and handling function for a Sprite named 'beginQuestions' and listen for a mouse click. 2 - what does weak referenced mean in regards to event listeners? 3 - what is the difference between an object an an array? 4 - how doe you get cue point from vidio in AS3? And in AS2? 5 - briefly explain the various datatypes for numbers. 6 - how do you load an external file? 7 - draw a 20px by 20px Rectangle using the graphics API. 8 - which of the following cannot contain other display objects? Sprite, Shape, MovieClip, DisplayObjectContainer. 9 - which properties can you use to change the size of DisplayObjects? 10 - ENTER_FRAME is independant of an SWF's frame rate? True or false? 11 - XP is a type of which programming methology? 12 - why would you use a Singleton? 13 - what is the Document Class? 14 - create a new TextField instance, then add text it, then add some more text. 15 - what is the difference between public, private and protected. 16 - look at the piece of XML (see other sheet). How do i: - Get all of the page nodes as an XMLList. - Get node in showcase where the attribute id=1. 17 - listen for when the 'enter key' is pressed and trace out all questions are now done when the event happens. Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] When to use AS3?
Yeah true, or what's working as well is saying that AS2 code is harder to maintain and will cost you more money in the future. Romu www.soundstep.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sidney de Koning Sent: 30 July 2008 13:05 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] When to use AS3? Nice one :) As i said earlier; we also have advising roles to play. If a specific project needs specific technology, dont bend or sway for less. Try to convince/explain the client why. Especially if the concept comes from the developing party, they thought about it, they'll also make it. I know sometimes clients can be difficult, what i have noticed, as long as you explain why and show them figures, they'll go for it. Or tell them the competitors ARE using AS3, two seconds ... they'll reconsider ;) Sid On Jul 30, 2008, at 1:48 PM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: @Sidney: That's really interesting because at all the places I've worked (which isn't many - I've always done coding as a sideline and have only recently gone full-time), they seem to be utterly entrenched in FP8 (i guess using the old 'work to the last player' thinking). I personally would love to move the (non-banner) work to AS3 as it's a far more elegant way of working. I find that the clients tend to dictate it based on whatever plugin their IT department have set them up with. a NOTE: This is taken from the interview thread and I thought it might be worth having it's own one On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Sidney de Koning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi allandt, As agencies we also have a advising role to play towards the customer, so we only do AS3 projects, hardly any AS2 (maybee some banners in FP8). So we try to advice/push the client towards AS3 projects, which, most of the times, is better for all parties invloved. Sid On Jul 30, 2008, at 1:24 PM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: hmmm - i didn't do bad (without looking stuff up) but i must say that i've not been asked to do a single as3 project since i started doing agency work - the only time i've done an as3 project was for an interactive cd so i could set my own target for the projector file. Most of the work i do in digital agencies has been targeted at flash player 8 or (even worse) 6 so AS2 has been more important than AS3. Under what sort of circumstances do you find that AS3 is used? a On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Sidney de Koning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The list of questions i always ask interviewees are the following, and this gives me a pretty good example of what they are like and what their skillset is. Test is always accompanied with a practical test we make up on the spot. The XML in Q16 is made up, you can create your own for this. Feel free to use this, Cheers, Sid 1 - write an event listener (normal and weak referenced) and handling function for a Sprite named 'beginQuestions' and listen for a mouse click. 2 - what does weak referenced mean in regards to event listeners? 3 - what is the difference between an object an an array? 4 - how doe you get cue point from vidio in AS3? And in AS2? 5 - briefly explain the various datatypes for numbers. 6 - how do you load an external file? 7 - draw a 20px by 20px Rectangle using the graphics API. 8 - which of the following cannot contain other display objects? Sprite, Shape, MovieClip, DisplayObjectContainer. 9 - which properties can you use to change the size of DisplayObjects? 10 - ENTER_FRAME is independant of an SWF's frame rate? True or false? 11 - XP is a type of which programming methology? 12 - why would you use a Singleton? 13 - what is the Document Class? 14 - create a new TextField instance, then add text it, then add some more text. 15 - what is the difference between public, private and protected. 16 - look at the piece of XML (see other sheet). How do i: - Get all of the page nodes as an XMLList. - Get node in showcase where the attribute id=1. 17 - listen for when the 'enter key' is pressed and trace out all questions are now done when the event happens. Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: AS3 - Eclipse FDT - Problem with Embed Fonts
Thank you Romuald for your answer.
I will try with an mxml file if it's possible.
I know the solution whith the swf and swc and if it's not possible whith a
.ttf file i will use one of those solution.
David
2008/7/30 Romuald Quantin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Are you making mxml file with FDT?
mx.core.FontAsset is part of the Flex Framework if I'm not wrong. You can't
use it for Flash, like you can't use Tile, HBox or other part of the Flex
framework.
For flash with FDT
- you can load a SWF containing the fonts
- add a SWC containing your fonts in the compiler
In the compiler arguments add:
-include-libraries C:\Fonts.swc
- use the metadata tag Embed (not work in flash IDE, only with Flex SDK):
http://www.scottgmorgan.com/blog/index.php/2007/06/18/runtime-font-embedding
-in-as3-there-is-no-need-to-embed-the-entire-fontset-anymore/http://www.scottgmorgan.com/blog/index.php/2007/06/18/runtime-font-embedding-in-as3-there-is-no-need-to-embed-the-entire-fontset-anymore/
A useful method to check what's embedded
public function showEmbeddedFonts():void {
trace(Embedded Fonts);
var fonts:Array = Font.enumerateFonts();
fonts.sortOn(fontName, Array.CASEINSENSITIVE);
for (var i:int = 0; i fonts.length; i++) {
trace(fonts[i].fontName + , + fonts[i].fontStyle);
}
}
Hope it helps.
Romu
www.soundstep.com
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of david
costard
Sent: 30 July 2008 10:41
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: [Flashcoders] Re: AS3 - Eclipse FDT - Problem with Embed Fonts
Hi,
I try whith a font from my file system and my problem is resolved but a new
one is present.
Now the error message is
Main_impact.as(10): col: 42 Error: La définition de la classe de base
FontAsset est introuvable.
public class Main_impact extends mx.core.FontAsset
Any ideas ?
Thanks.
2008/7/29 david costard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi List,
I'm using Eclipse and FDT for an AS3 application.
In this application I need to embed fonts.
I search the correct technique in Joey Lott and in tutorial on the web.
So in my class just before the constructor I write that :
[Embed(source=assets/Arial Unicode MS.TTF, fontFamily=EaganFont,
mimeType=application/x-font-truetype)]
private var EAGAN : String;
And when I try to generate the swf eclipse generate this error :
--
Loading configuration file
D:\work\nurun\environement\eclipse\flex_sdk_3\frameworks\flex-config.xml
Recompile: D:\work\nurun\environement\workspaces\test\fonts\src\Main.as
Reason: The source file wasn't fully compiled.
Files changed: 0 Files affected: 1
D:\work\nurun\environement\workspaces\test\fonts\src\Main.as(14): Error:
exception during transcoding: Unexpected exception encountered while
reading
font file '/D:/work/environement/workspaces/test/fonts/src/assets/Arial
Unicode MS.TTF'
[Embed(source=assets/Arial Unicode MS.TTF,
fontFamily=EaganFont, mimeType=application/x-font-truetype)]
D:\work\nurun\environement\workspaces\test\fonts\src\Main.as(14): col: 4:
Error: unable to build font 'EaganFont'
[Embed(source=assets/Arial Unicode MS.TTF,
fontFamily=EaganFont, mimeType=application/x-font-truetype)]
^
D:\work\nurun\environement\workspaces\test\fonts\src\Main.as(14): col: 4:
Error: Unable to transcode assets/Arial Unicode MS.TTF.
^
(fcsh)
--
I've got the same errors if my var is a Class
private var EAGAN : Class;
Anyone had the solution of my problem ?
Thank you.
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[Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
You should ask to see source/code before an interview - then you'll know beforehand whether to proceed or not. Also, ask where they see Adobe going and whether it'll be Apple or Google that eventually buys Adobe out? I say Apple, but you never know with Google. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] When to use AS3?
This debate really shows the odd place Flash is in right now. A few threads ago someone else was saying they would never even look at a project that was being done in AS2 and indeed any client demanding such a thing deserved a whoopin'. Others still find themselves working almost exclusively in AS2, and others like myself find themselves jumping back and forth between the two on a daily basis which is probably the worst of all. coding half your day in AS3 and the other half in AS2 is such a mindf*ck. .m On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:48 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: @Sidney: That's really interesting because at all the places I've worked (which isn't many - I've always done coding as a sideline and have only recently gone full-time), they seem to be utterly entrenched in FP8 (i guess using the old 'work to the last player' thinking). I personally would love to move the (non-banner) work to AS3 as it's a far more elegant way of working. I find that the clients tend to dictate it based on whatever plugin their IT department have set them up with. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
I don't know about you guys, but that checklist of skills and the possibility of getting that on an interview make me depressed. Of that list, I'm pretty sure I can do it all, but most of that are not something I do all the time every day so I may have the gist of it, but not know the syntax down to its every comma. I personally use the reference *and* the internet every tie when writing code - for example, I never use cue points, and while I know perfectly well how it works, I'd have to see how the event works and do a few tests before applying it to my code. Nothing huge that takes day of research, but still. That's I think just shooting a lot of questions to the interviewee may help filter out the crap but also won't help you find the best candidates; I honestly think good developers, specially in the Flash world, are the ones who can quickly find the answer to a new question before having to ask around, be it by using the reference, be using by using the internet, or by testing. Remember this technology changes at a fast pace. Having a catalog of techniques in your mind may show experience, but there'll be gaping holes if the guy's work was focused somewhere else or if he's not very formally trained. Personally, on an interview, I'd ask to see the candidate's previous work that's online (doing so next to him). Ask him what kind of techniques were in place on that particular website, question him about interface elements. Give hints on how you'd do something he has done and see his reaction, whether he gets into it and start discussing code with a peer or whether he shows he's full of shit. Ask how long that particular work took, and whether someone helped him, and what external classes or frameworks he used. Ask him what kind of work he liked the most, and why. Which was the most difficult one he did recently, and why. Ask what kind of work he doesn't like doing. Try to get a hang of how he works, and try to understand what motivates and unmotivates him. If possible, ask to see some real-life code he's produced, and then see what kind of techniques he does apply on real code more than just knowing the number of a dozen design patterns. I don't know if you guys get too many interviewees or something that warrants a list like that to make things faster. But for website development in Flash, I think there's so much more that's necessary than just schoolbook knowledge that focusing too much on the checklist really seems counterproductive and sad to me. Zeh Sidney de Koning wrote: The list of questions i always ask interviewees are the following, and this gives me a pretty good example of what they are like and what their skillset is. Test is always accompanied with a practical test we make up on the spot. The XML in Q16 is made up, you can create your own for this. Feel free to use this, Cheers, Sid 1 - write an event listener (normal and weak referenced) and handling function for a Sprite named 'beginQuestions' and listen for a mouse click. 2 - what does weak referenced mean in regards to event listeners? 3 - what is the difference between an object an an array? 4 - how doe you get cue point from vidio in AS3? And in AS2? 5 - briefly explain the various datatypes for numbers. 6 - how do you load an external file? 7 - draw a 20px by 20px Rectangle using the graphics API. 8 - which of the following cannot contain other display objects? Sprite, Shape, MovieClip, DisplayObjectContainer. 9 - which properties can you use to change the size of DisplayObjects? 10 - ENTER_FRAME is independant of an SWF's frame rate? True or false? 11 - XP is a type of which programming methology? 12 - why would you use a Singleton? 13 - what is the Document Class? 14 - create a new TextField instance, then add text it, then add some more text. 15 - what is the difference between public, private and protected. 16 - look at the piece of XML (see other sheet). How do i: - Get all of the page nodes as an XMLList. - Get node in showcase where the attribute id=1. 17 - listen for when the 'enter key' is pressed and trace out all questions are now done when the event happens. Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
I don't think asking questions about a specific language(be it as3 or as2) is actually the key of finding a good programmer. In my opinion programming is not about knowing an API but about thinking of smart solutions which will solve problems in a simple and elegant way. The best questions are those which doesn't assume the person has any knowledge of any language at all, since programming isn't about a programming language per se. Maybe find out which language he has never worked with and then send him home with a small assignment in that language, this would be a neat test and will also show how fast someone can pick up new things and ideas. On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Sidney de Koning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The list of questions i always ask interviewees are the following, and this gives me a pretty good example of what they are like and what their skillset is. Test is always accompanied with a practical test we make up on the spot. The XML in Q16 is made up, you can create your own for this. Feel free to use this, Cheers, Sid 1 - write an event listener (normal and weak referenced) and handling function for a Sprite named 'beginQuestions' and listen for a mouse click. 2 - what does weak referenced mean in regards to event listeners? 3 - what is the difference between an object an an array? 4 - how doe you get cue point from vidio in AS3? And in AS2? 5 - briefly explain the various datatypes for numbers. 6 - how do you load an external file? 7 - draw a 20px by 20px Rectangle using the graphics API. 8 - which of the following cannot contain other display objects? Sprite, Shape, MovieClip, DisplayObjectContainer. 9 - which properties can you use to change the size of DisplayObjects? 10 - ENTER_FRAME is independant of an SWF's frame rate? True or false? 11 - XP is a type of which programming methology? 12 - why would you use a Singleton? 13 - what is the Document Class? 14 - create a new TextField instance, then add text it, then add some more text. 15 - what is the difference between public, private and protected. 16 - look at the piece of XML (see other sheet). How do i: - Get all of the page nodes as an XMLList. - Get node in showcase where the attribute id=1. 17 - listen for when the 'enter key' is pressed and trace out all questions are now done when the event happens. Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- M.A. van't Kruis http://www.malatze.nl/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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It does make me feel depressed as well :) I'll have to find someone to hire in the next month and I'll focus on his own source code and what Meinte and Zeh said previously. For me it is very important to see if the interviewee is interested in what he's doing (coding) and most of all id he's enjoying what is doing. Having knowledge is a very good thing but people who goes further is mainly because they love what they're doing, not only because they know or because they're cleverer. Romu -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeh Fernando Sent: 30 July 2008 14:48 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee I don't know about you guys, but that checklist of skills and the possibility of getting that on an interview make me depressed. Of that list, I'm pretty sure I can do it all, but most of that are not something I do all the time every day so I may have the gist of it, but not know the syntax down to its every comma. I personally use the reference *and* the internet every tie when writing code - for example, I never use cue points, and while I know perfectly well how it works, I'd have to see how the event works and do a few tests before applying it to my code. Nothing huge that takes day of research, but still. That's I think just shooting a lot of questions to the interviewee may help filter out the crap but also won't help you find the best candidates; I honestly think good developers, specially in the Flash world, are the ones who can quickly find the answer to a new question before having to ask around, be it by using the reference, be using by using the internet, or by testing. Remember this technology changes at a fast pace. Having a catalog of techniques in your mind may show experience, but there'll be gaping holes if the guy's work was focused somewhere else or if he's not very formally trained. Personally, on an interview, I'd ask to see the candidate's previous work that's online (doing so next to him). Ask him what kind of techniques were in place on that particular website, question him about interface elements. Give hints on how you'd do something he has done and see his reaction, whether he gets into it and start discussing code with a peer or whether he shows he's full of shit. Ask how long that particular work took, and whether someone helped him, and what external classes or frameworks he used. Ask him what kind of work he liked the most, and why. Which was the most difficult one he did recently, and why. Ask what kind of work he doesn't like doing. Try to get a hang of how he works, and try to understand what motivates and unmotivates him. If possible, ask to see some real-life code he's produced, and then see what kind of techniques he does apply on real code more than just knowing the number of a dozen design patterns. I don't know if you guys get too many interviewees or something that warrants a list like that to make things faster. But for website development in Flash, I think there's so much more that's necessary than just schoolbook knowledge that focusing too much on the checklist really seems counterproductive and sad to me. Zeh Sidney de Koning wrote: The list of questions i always ask interviewees are the following, and this gives me a pretty good example of what they are like and what their skillset is. Test is always accompanied with a practical test we make up on the spot. The XML in Q16 is made up, you can create your own for this. Feel free to use this, Cheers, Sid 1 - write an event listener (normal and weak referenced) and handling function for a Sprite named 'beginQuestions' and listen for a mouse click. 2 - what does weak referenced mean in regards to event listeners? 3 - what is the difference between an object an an array? 4 - how doe you get cue point from vidio in AS3? And in AS2? 5 - briefly explain the various datatypes for numbers. 6 - how do you load an external file? 7 - draw a 20px by 20px Rectangle using the graphics API. 8 - which of the following cannot contain other display objects? Sprite, Shape, MovieClip, DisplayObjectContainer. 9 - which properties can you use to change the size of DisplayObjects? 10 - ENTER_FRAME is independant of an SWF's frame rate? True or false? 11 - XP is a type of which programming methology? 12 - why would you use a Singleton? 13 - what is the Document Class? 14 - create a new TextField instance, then add text it, then add some more text. 15 - what is the difference between public, private and protected. 16 - look at the piece of XML (see other sheet). How do i: - Get all of the page nodes as an XMLList. - Get node in showcase where the attribute id=1. 17 - listen for when the 'enter key' is pressed and trace out all questions are now done when the event happens. Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
So where it all comes down to is that everybody has its own personal preferences of doing. A personal set of things to do and how to spot a good coder or an opinion on what makes a good flash developer, whether this is by showing code, letting them do some questions, shoing some work or all of the above. If somebody steps into our office and understands the concept of programming, knows its syntax but is not that good in AS coding, i'll give him / her a shot, treat that person as a junior and see what they do in their trial period(mostly it is 1 or 2 months, depending what country you are in). Depending on the questions they ask you kindof know what they are like. If they've proven them selfs usefull and are willing to learn, i'll invest in that person with a contract. Does that still sound sad to you Zeh? Sid On Jul 30, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Zeh Fernando wrote: I don't know about you guys, but that checklist of skills and the possibility of getting that on an interview make me depressed. Of that list, I'm pretty sure I can do it all, but most of that are not something I do all the time every day so I may have the gist of it, but not know the syntax down to its every comma. I personally use the reference *and* the internet every tie when writing code - for example, I never use cue points, and while I know perfectly well how it works, I'd have to see how the event works and do a few tests before applying it to my code. Nothing huge that takes day of research, but still. That's I think just shooting a lot of questions to the interviewee may help filter out the crap but also won't help you find the best candidates; I honestly think good developers, specially in the Flash world, are the ones who can quickly find the answer to a new question before having to ask around, be it by using the reference, be using by using the internet, or by testing. Remember this technology changes at a fast pace. Having a catalog of techniques in your mind may show experience, but there'll be gaping holes if the guy's work was focused somewhere else or if he's not very formally trained. Personally, on an interview, I'd ask to see the candidate's previous work that's online (doing so next to him). Ask him what kind of techniques were in place on that particular website, question him about interface elements. Give hints on how you'd do something he has done and see his reaction, whether he gets into it and start discussing code with a peer or whether he shows he's full of shit. Ask how long that particular work took, and whether someone helped him, and what external classes or frameworks he used. Ask him what kind of work he liked the most, and why. Which was the most difficult one he did recently, and why. Ask what kind of work he doesn't like doing. Try to get a hang of how he works, and try to understand what motivates and unmotivates him. If possible, ask to see some real-life code he's produced, and then see what kind of techniques he does apply on real code more than just knowing the number of a dozen design patterns. I don't know if you guys get too many interviewees or something that warrants a list like that to make things faster. But for website development in Flash, I think there's so much more that's necessary than just schoolbook knowledge that focusing too much on the checklist really seems counterproductive and sad to me. Zeh Sidney de Koning wrote: The list of questions i always ask interviewees are the following, and this gives me a pretty good example of what they are like and what their skillset is. Test is always accompanied with a practical test we make up on the spot. The XML in Q16 is made up, you can create your own for this. Feel free to use this, Cheers, Sid 1 - write an event listener (normal and weak referenced) and handling function for a Sprite named 'beginQuestions' and listen for a mouse click. 2 - what does weak referenced mean in regards to event listeners? 3 - what is the difference between an object an an array? 4 - how doe you get cue point from vidio in AS3? And in AS2? 5 - briefly explain the various datatypes for numbers. 6 - how do you load an external file? 7 - draw a 20px by 20px Rectangle using the graphics API. 8 - which of the following cannot contain other display objects? Sprite, Shape, MovieClip, DisplayObjectContainer. 9 - which properties can you use to change the size of DisplayObjects? 10 - ENTER_FRAME is independant of an SWF's frame rate? True or false? 11 - XP is a type of which programming methology? 12 - why would you use a Singleton? 13 - what is the Document Class? 14 - create a new TextField instance, then add text it, then add some more text. 15 - what is the difference between public, private and protected. 16 - look at the piece of XML (see other sheet). How do i: - Get all of the page nodes as an XMLList. - Get node in
Re: [Flashcoders] faster, longer, better ... for programming maniaks
information as if you can use the while
incremental instead of For decremental, then just use For incremental.
I heard that any loop was compiled to a while loop so I started coding
everything with a while, what is faster to write and more elegant.
Now I'll go back to those For loops, I promess I never stoped loving you
guys...
here some convincing results :
takeLengthMinus : 1695
takeLengthMinusOut : 1598
takeLengthPlus : 1580
takeLengthPlusOut : 1550
takePushMinus : 1860
takePushMinusOut : 1768
takePushPlus : 1756
takePushPlusOut : 1685
Don't compare results between separate paragraphe because they did not run
all together:
takeForWithLengthMinus : 1624
takeForWithLengthPlus : 1581
The For loop is directly with operation outside, so it has to be compared
to the
other outside operations:
takeLengthMinusOut : 1686
takeLengthPlusOut : 1610
takePushMinusOut : 1788
takePushPlusOut : 1666
takeForWithLengthMinus : 1626
takeForWithLengthPlus : 1563
I guess that's why I learned to use for( i = 0; i n; i++ ) for my first
loops.
So if we want our code faster we have to make it longer and actually more
human readable, at the same time it means more computer readable as it gets
fasterhm, is the computer so close to human...?!
I [ mean my brain ] actually use a dicotomic way to find my current client
folder in the list of all my works.
cheers.
L
and here the codes :
function takeLengthMinus():String{
var i : int = 1000;
var a: Array = new Array();
var t: Number = getTimer();
while( i-- ){
a[ a.length ] = i;
}
return takeLengthMinus : + ( getTimer() - t );
}
function takeLengthMinusOut():String{
var i : int = 1000;
var a: Array = new Array();
var t: Number = getTimer();
while( i ){
a[ a.length ] = i;
i--;
}
return takeLengthMinusOut : + ( getTimer() - t );
}
function takeLengthPlus():String{
var i : int = 0;
var a: Array = new Array();
var t: Number = getTimer();
while( i 1000 ){
a[ a.length ] = i++;
}
return takeLengthPlus : + ( getTimer() - t );
}
function takeLengthPlusOut():String{
var i : int = 0;
var a: Array = new Array();
var t: Number = getTimer();
while( i 1000 ){
a[ a.length ] = i;
i++;
}
return takeLengthPlusOut : + ( getTimer() - t );
}
function takePushMinus():String{
var i : int = 1000;
var a: Array = new Array();
var t: Number = getTimer();
while( i-- ){
a.push( i );
}
return takePushMinus : + ( getTimer() - t );
}
function takePushMinusOut():String{
var i : int = 1000;
var a: Array = new Array();
var t: Number = getTimer();
while( i ){
i--;
a.push( i );
}
return takePushMinusOut : + ( getTimer() - t );
}
function takePushPlus():String{
var i : int = 0;
var a: Array = new Array();
var t: Number = getTimer();
while( i 1000 ){
a.push( i++ );
}
return takePushPlus : + ( getTimer() - t );
}
function takePushPlusOut():String{
var i : int = 0;
var a: Array = new Array();
var t: Number = getTimer();
while( i 1000 ){
a.push( i );
i++;
}
return takePushPlusOut : + ( getTimer() - t );
}
function takeForWithLengthMinus():String{
var i : int;
var a: Array = new Array();
var t: Number = getTimer();
for( i = 1000; i 0; i-- ){
a[ a.length ] = i;
}
return takeForWithLengthMinus : + ( getTimer() - t );
}
function takeForWithLengthPlus():String{
var i : int;
var a: Array = new Array();
var t: Number = getTimer();
for( i = 0; i 1000; i++ ){
a[ a.length ] = i;
}
return takeForWithLengthPlus : + ( getTimer() - t );
}
//trace( takeLengthMinus() );
trace( takeLengthMinusOut() );
//trace( takeLengthPlus() );
trace( takeLengthPlusOut() );
//trace( takePushMinus() );
trace( takePushMinusOut() );
//trace( takePushPlus() );
trace( takePushPlusOut() );
trace( takeForWithLengthMinus() );
trace( takeForWithLengthPlus() );
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Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
How would Apple want to buy Adobe when they dont even want to use the Flash Plugin in their IPhone/ITouch? and Google? is this rumor floating around? because personally this is the first time I hear about this idea... On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:06 AM, S0 F1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should ask to see source/code before an interview - then you'll know beforehand whether to proceed or not. Also, ask where they see Adobe going and whether it'll be Apple or Google that eventually buys Adobe out? I say Apple, but you never know with Google. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- ...helmut ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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; } return takeForWithLengthPlus : + ( getTimer() - t ); } //trace( takeLengthMinus() ); trace( takeLengthMinusOut() ); //trace( takeLengthPlus() ); trace( takeLengthPlusOut() ); //trace( takePushMinus() ); trace( takePushMinusOut() ); //trace( takePushPlus() ); trace( takePushPlusOut() ); trace( takeForWithLengthMinus() ); trace( takeForWithLengthPlus() ); ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3309 (20080730) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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I dont think Apple *doesnt want* to use Flash on the iphone per se, in fact I think they'd love to have it. Its just a question of (depending on who you talk to) technical challenges and/or political difficulties on Apple and Adobe's part. Owning Adobe would help to solve both (not that I'm supporting the rumors, just sayin...). .m On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Helmut Granda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How would Apple want to buy Adobe when they dont even want to use the Flash Plugin in their IPhone/ITouch? and Google? is this rumor floating around? because personally this is the first time I hear about this idea... ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
This is something I forgot - a trial period of 1-3 months is a real necessity. There's just so much you had to know about an employee on Flash development, that just an interview doesn't cut it; seeing how the person works once he/she settles down is a must. You can't have a guy dragging the office around just because he knew the right answers at one specific time. So no, it does not sound sad to me, sorry if I sounded harsh or anything (that wasn't my intention). What made me kind of down was just focusing too much on a questionnaire. I understand the rationale and I've applied something similar on interviews I've done or helped doing in the past, but I just think stuff like that need to be considered with some real caution. It may guide but it can't lead. Getting to know how the guy/gal works and what's his or her pace is more important than having them fill in the blanks successfully (but also more difficult). Zeh Sidney de Koning wrote: So where it all comes down to is that everybody has its own personal preferences of doing. A personal set of things to do and how to spot a good coder or an opinion on what makes a good flash developer, whether this is by showing code, letting them do some questions, shoing some work or all of the above. If somebody steps into our office and understands the concept of programming, knows its syntax but is not that good in AS coding, i'll give him / her a shot, treat that person as a junior and see what they do in their trial period(mostly it is 1 or 2 months, depending what country you are in). Depending on the questions they ask you kindof know what they are like. If they've proven them selfs usefull and are willing to learn, i'll invest in that person with a contract. Does that still sound sad to you Zeh? Sid On Jul 30, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Zeh Fernando wrote: I don't know about you guys, but that checklist of skills and the possibility of getting that on an interview make me depressed. Of that list, I'm pretty sure I can do it all, but most of that are not something I do all the time every day so I may have the gist of it, but not know the syntax down to its every comma. I personally use the reference *and* the internet every tie when writing code - for example, I never use cue points, and while I know perfectly well how it works, I'd have to see how the event works and do a few tests before applying it to my code. Nothing huge that takes day of research, but still. That's I think just shooting a lot of questions to the interviewee may help filter out the crap but also won't help you find the best candidates; I honestly think good developers, specially in the Flash world, are the ones who can quickly find the answer to a new question before having to ask around, be it by using the reference, be using by using the internet, or by testing. Remember this technology changes at a fast pace. Having a catalog of techniques in your mind may show experience, but there'll be gaping holes if the guy's work was focused somewhere else or if he's not very formally trained. Personally, on an interview, I'd ask to see the candidate's previous work that's online (doing so next to him). Ask him what kind of techniques were in place on that particular website, question him about interface elements. Give hints on how you'd do something he has done and see his reaction, whether he gets into it and start discussing code with a peer or whether he shows he's full of shit. Ask how long that particular work took, and whether someone helped him, and what external classes or frameworks he used. Ask him what kind of work he liked the most, and why. Which was the most difficult one he did recently, and why. Ask what kind of work he doesn't like doing. Try to get a hang of how he works, and try to understand what motivates and unmotivates him. If possible, ask to see some real-life code he's produced, and then see what kind of techniques he does apply on real code more than just knowing the number of a dozen design patterns. I don't know if you guys get too many interviewees or something that warrants a list like that to make things faster. But for website development in Flash, I think there's so much more that's necessary than just schoolbook knowledge that focusing too much on the checklist really seems counterproductive and sad to me. Zeh Sidney de Koning wrote: The list of questions i always ask interviewees are the following, and this gives me a pretty good example of what they are like and what their skillset is. Test is always accompanied with a practical test we make up on the spot. The XML in Q16 is made up, you can create your own for this. Feel free to use this, Cheers, Sid 1 - write an event listener (normal and weak referenced) and handling function for a Sprite named 'beginQuestions' and listen for a mouse click. 2 - what does weak referenced mean in regards to event listeners? 3 - what is the
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Hi Zeh, There's just so much you had to know about an employee on Flash development, that just an interview doesn't cut it; seeing how the person works once he/she settles down is a must. You can't have a guy dragging the office around just because he knew the right answers at one specific time. I totally agree, good point. So no, it does not sound sad to me, sorry if I sounded harsh or anything (that wasn't my intention). No problem :) Discussions can get heated sometimes. Thats normal on lists like this ;) Sid Zeh Sidney de Koning wrote: So where it all comes down to is that everybody has its own personal preferences of doing. A personal set of things to do and how to spot a good coder or an opinion on what makes a good flash developer, whether this is by showing code, letting them do some questions, shoing some work or all of the above. If somebody steps into our office and understands the concept of programming, knows its syntax but is not that good in AS coding, i'll give him / her a shot, treat that person as a junior and see what they do in their trial period(mostly it is 1 or 2 months, depending what country you are in). Depending on the questions they ask you kindof know what they are like. If they've proven them selfs usefull and are willing to learn, i'll invest in that person with a contract. Does that still sound sad to you Zeh? Sid ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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();
var t: Number = getTimer();
while( i 1000 ){
a.push( i );
i++;
}
return takePushPlusOut : + ( getTimer() - t );
}
function takeForWithLengthMinus():String{
var i : int;
var a: Array = new Array();
var t: Number = getTimer();
for( i = 1000; i 0; i-- ){
a[ a.length ] = i;
}
return takeForWithLengthMinus : + ( getTimer() - t );
}
function takeForWithLengthPlus():String{
var i : int;
var a: Array = new Array();
var t: Number = getTimer();
for( i = 0; i 1000; i++ ){
a[ a.length ] = i;
}
return takeForWithLengthPlus : + ( getTimer() - t );
}
//trace( takeLengthMinus() );
trace( takeLengthMinusOut() );
//trace( takeLengthPlus() );
trace( takeLengthPlusOut() );
//trace( takePushMinus() );
trace( takePushMinusOut() );
//trace( takePushPlus() );
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Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
And ofcourse we all try to find a answer that is suitable for this specific problem and its good that loads of people have different takes on it. Sid. On Jul 30, 2008, at 5:42 PM, Sidney de Koning wrote: Hi Zeh, There's just so much you had to know about an employee on Flash development, that just an interview doesn't cut it; seeing how the person works once he/she settles down is a must. You can't have a guy dragging the office around just because he knew the right answers at one specific time. I totally agree, good point. So no, it does not sound sad to me, sorry if I sounded harsh or anything (that wasn't my intention). No problem :) Discussions can get heated sometimes. Thats normal on lists like this ;) Sid Zeh Sidney de Koning wrote: So where it all comes down to is that everybody has its own personal preferences of doing. A personal set of things to do and how to spot a good coder or an opinion on what makes a good flash developer, whether this is by showing code, letting them do some questions, shoing some work or all of the above. If somebody steps into our office and understands the concept of programming, knows its syntax but is not that good in AS coding, i'll give him / her a shot, treat that person as a junior and see what they do in their trial period(mostly it is 1 or 2 months, depending what country you are in). Depending on the questions they ask you kindof know what they are like. If they've proven them selfs usefull and are willing to learn, i'll invest in that person with a contract. Does that still sound sad to you Zeh? Sid ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
HAHAHA B. On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Kerry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Alan Skinner wrote: So i just found out i've to interview an AS guy tomorrow, anybody have any good questions that i should be asking? Here are my favorites, at 4:30 in the morning: 1. How long have you been out on parole? 2. So, do you think you're going to beat that child porn rap? 3. Did that program you wrote for Al Quaeda really work as well as everybody says? 4. Have you ever worked for Microsoft? Cheers! Professor I. M. Gestopftmitscheiss ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] faster, longer, better ... for programming maniaks
If you mean decompiling the push method itself, you can't because it's not
actioscript but a native code, implemented directly in the player.
If you mean how the push method is called, it'd be something like this:
Actionscript:
function test():void {
var i:int = 0;
var arr:Array = new Array();
arr.push(i);
}
Disassembled bytecode:
function test():void /* disp_id 0*/
{
// local_count=3 max_scope=1 max_stack=2 code_len=26
0 getlocal0
1 pushscope
2 pushbyte 0
4 setlocal1
5 pushnull
6 coerce Array
8 setlocal2
9 pushbyte 0
11setlocal1
12findpropstrict Array
14constructprop Array (0)
17coerce Array
19setlocal2
20getlocal2
21getlocal1
22callpropvoid http://adobe.com/AS3/2006/builtin::push (1)
25returnvoid
}
The relevant part is this (local2 is the array and local1 the variable i)
20getlocal2
21getlocal1
22callpropvoid http://adobe.com/AS3/2006/builtin::push (1)
Basically, you push the array onto the stack, then the arguments (the i
variable), and then use the callpropvoid native method. That method pops the
stack to get the arguments (the number of arguments is specified by the
caller, in this case it's 1 as you can see between the parens), and then it
pops the stack again to get the object (the array in this case). Then the
player calls the method passed to callpropvoid (push), on the array, and
passes the arguments to it (the variable i). If push returned a value,
callprop would have been used instead of callpropvoid.
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[Flashcoders] AS3: Video player scrubber doesnt work until reload?
So I've got a fairly standard video player, using code adapted from
Brimelow et al, but the problem I'm runnign into is that the first
time the page loads, it plays the video just fine, but the scrubber
doesnt work. Once I reload the page, it loads fine and the scrubber
kicks in. Has anyone else encountered this? Some of the code is
below...
thx,
.matt
-
public function VideoModule(myR,vD) {
trace(Video Module Loaded);
//
myRoot = myR;
myVideo = vD;
_videoStarted = false;
//
displayHours = true;
//
_videobg = new Sprite();
_videobg.name = bg;
_videobg.graphics.lineStyle();
_videobg.graphics.beginFill(0xFF);
_videobg.graphics.drawRect(0,0,10,10);
_videobg.graphics.endFill();
_videobg.visible = false;
addChild(_videobg);
//
_video = new Video(80,60);
//
_playbackTime = new Timedisplay();
_playbackTime.visible = false;
_duration = 0;
//
//ADD THE PLAY/PAUSE BTN
_pausebtn = new Pausebtn();
_pausebtn.name = pausebtn_mc;
_pausebtn.mouseEnabled = true;
_pausebtn.useHandCursor = true;
_pausebtn.buttonMode = true;
_pausebtn.visible = false;
addChild(_pausebtn);
//
var connection:NetConnection = new NetConnection();
connection.connect(null);
_stream = new NetStream(connection);
_stream.bufferTime = 1;
_stream.play(vD);
var client:Object = new Object();
client.onMetaData = onMetaData;
_stream.client = client;
_video.attachNetStream(_stream);
_video.x = 0;
_video.y = 0;
_video.visible = false;
addChild(_video);
addChild(_playbackTime);
//
//this timer restarts the video after it has been
paused by the resizer
resTimer = new Timer(700,1);
resTimer.addEventListener(timer, restartVideo);
//activate Listeners
addListeners();
}
public function addListeners():void {
_stream.addEventListener(NetStatusEvent.NET_STATUS,onStatus);
//_stream.addEventListener(NetStatusEvent.NET_STATUS,
onNetStatusEvent, false, 0, true);
addEventListener(Event.ENTER_FRAME,onEnterFrame);
_pausebtn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.MOUSE_DOWN,pausePlay);
myRoot.stage.addEventListener( Event.RESIZE,
videoResizer );
}
//
private function onMetaData(data:Object):void {
_duration = data.duration;
}
private function onEnterFrame(event:Event):void {
if (_duration 0 _stream.time 0) {
var nowSecs:Number = Math.floor(_stream.time);
var totalSecs:Number = Math.round(_duration);
/*if (nowSecs totalSecs-.2) {
_stream.seek(0);
_stream.pause();
_pausebtn.gotoAndStop(2);
_playbackTime.txt.text = 00:00:00;
}*/
_playbackTime.txt.text =
videoTimeConvert(nowSecs);// + / +
videoTimeConvert(totalSecs);
}
}
private function onStatus(event:NetStatusEvent):void {
if (_video.videoWidth 0 _video.width !=
_video.videoWidth) {
//SCALE AND POSITION THE VIDEO ELEMENTS
_video.width = _video.videoWidth;
_video.height = _video.videoHeight;
//_video.x = Math.round(
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
You can't have a guy dragging the office around just because he knew the right answers at one specific time. This has been a bum deal for me over the past 5 months. I've sat in on 3 interviews for a flash/flex developer and have told the rest in the interview that the person was not qualified yet they still hired them based on some canned responses (hell... one knew a little about silverlight and no Actionscript what so ever). All three either quit or was moved to a different team in under a month and yours truly had to take up their work. If you are going to hire some one they need to be able to do the dang job! Hence why my last day is Friday!!! ;) As for the questions. When thinking about flash and the many ways to do a single task, I feel the concept of how to think the problem through is a lot more important than having the person sit and write code. The understanding of what needs to be done and the steps to take to get it done with a side of excitement goes a long way for me. A lot of good points and perspectives have come up in this thread! Keep it coming! :) B. On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Zeh Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is something I forgot - a trial period of 1-3 months is a real necessity. There's just so much you had to know about an employee on Flash development, that just an interview doesn't cut it; seeing how the person works once he/she settles down is a must. You can't have a guy dragging the office around just because he knew the right answers at one specific time. So no, it does not sound sad to me, sorry if I sounded harsh or anything (that wasn't my intention). What made me kind of down was just focusing too much on a questionnaire. I understand the rationale and I've applied something similar on interviews I've done or helped doing in the past, but I just think stuff like that need to be considered with some real caution. It may guide but it can't lead. Getting to know how the guy/gal works and what's his or her pace is more important than having them fill in the blanks successfully (but also more difficult). Zeh Sidney de Koning wrote: So where it all comes down to is that everybody has its own personal preferences of doing. A personal set of things to do and how to spot a good coder or an opinion on what makes a good flash developer, whether this is by showing code, letting them do some questions, shoing some work or all of the above. If somebody steps into our office and understands the concept of programming, knows its syntax but is not that good in AS coding, i'll give him / her a shot, treat that person as a junior and see what they do in their trial period(mostly it is 1 or 2 months, depending what country you are in). Depending on the questions they ask you kindof know what they are like. If they've proven them selfs usefull and are willing to learn, i'll invest in that person with a contract. Does that still sound sad to you Zeh? Sid On Jul 30, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Zeh Fernando wrote: I don't know about you guys, but that checklist of skills and the possibility of getting that on an interview make me depressed. Of that list, I'm pretty sure I can do it all, but most of that are not something I do all the time every day so I may have the gist of it, but not know the syntax down to its every comma. I personally use the reference *and* the internet every tie when writing code - for example, I never use cue points, and while I know perfectly well how it works, I'd have to see how the event works and do a few tests before applying it to my code. Nothing huge that takes day of research, but still. That's I think just shooting a lot of questions to the interviewee may help filter out the crap but also won't help you find the best candidates; I honestly think good developers, specially in the Flash world, are the ones who can quickly find the answer to a new question before having to ask around, be it by using the reference, be using by using the internet, or by testing. Remember this technology changes at a fast pace. Having a catalog of techniques in your mind may show experience, but there'll be gaping holes if the guy's work was focused somewhere else or if he's not very formally trained. Personally, on an interview, I'd ask to see the candidate's previous work that's online (doing so next to him). Ask him what kind of techniques were in place on that particular website, question him about interface elements. Give hints on how you'd do something he has done and see his reaction, whether he gets into it and start discussing code with a peer or whether he shows he's full of shit. Ask how long that particular work took, and whether someone helped him, and what external classes or frameworks he used. Ask him what kind of work he liked the most, and why. Which was the most difficult one he did recently, and why. Ask what kind of work he doesn't like doing. Try to get a hang of how
Re: [Flashcoders] faster, longer, better ... for programming maniaks
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:44 PM, laurent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you decompile the push method to see how it use the stack ? :) I take the :) you already know the answer, but just in case, it's intrinsic and you can probably look the C++ code up in the Tamarin sources. I have to agree with Juan that you shouldn't take those results seriously. The numbers are closer to each other than the margin of error. When I set up such a test (sorry, no code on this machine), I wait a few frames so the player is fully initialized, and then run several test of each variant. I take the best result and discard the rest -- the average or median are worthless, they just tell you how much other processes on the system interfere with the test, and the worst tells you if the garbage collector did its round. In any case, don't go down the X does Y the fastest, so I'll only use X from now on route. If you're writing some selected inner loops or a math library, OK, but most of your code won't get executed thousands of times each frame, so it's much more important that it's readable and easy to understand for others (including future-you). This is especially true if your fastest solution is verbose and repetitive -- it's inconvenient if you have to modify it in the future, add traces for debugging or step through with the debugger. Also, whether writing something in a single line or two is faster depends on the compiler, and might change when better optimization is introduced in a future version. Common ways of doing something are probably more likely to get optimized. Stating the obvious, try to find a better algorithm first. And finally, have a look at haXe. That touches the compiler optimization part again -- the haXe compiler knows much about your code than the AS3 compilers, so it can do better optimization. Part of it is explained here: http://blog.haxe.org/entry/31 Note inlining and haxe.rtti.Generic. For an AS3 vs haXe example, read: http://blog.haxe.org/entry/35 Mark ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] When to use AS3?
yeh - i tried telling someone to object.addEventListener(Event.ENTER_FRAME, func); the other day (they were in as2) it's really hard doing both On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Matt S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This debate really shows the odd place Flash is in right now. A few threads ago someone else was saying they would never even look at a project that was being done in AS2 and indeed any client demanding such a thing deserved a whoopin'. Others still find themselves working almost exclusively in AS2, and others like myself find themselves jumping back and forth between the two on a daily basis which is probably the worst of all. coding half your day in AS3 and the other half in AS2 is such a mindf*ck. .m On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:48 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: @Sidney: That's really interesting because at all the places I've worked (which isn't many - I've always done coding as a sideline and have only recently gone full-time), they seem to be utterly entrenched in FP8 (i guess using the old 'work to the last player' thinking). I personally would love to move the (non-banner) work to AS3 as it's a far more elegant way of working. I find that the clients tend to dictate it based on whatever plugin their IT department have set them up with. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
You should ask to see source/code before an interview - then you'll know beforehand whether to proceed or not That's usually not practical. I'm perfectly happy to direct somebody to my links, but I'm not going to send my source code, which is usually proprietary, to a potential client or employer. One thing we shouldn't lose sight of here--the interview process is a two-way street. The employer is interviewing you, but you should also be interviewing the employer. If you're a half-decent coder, you are very much in demand, and should look for a job that fits you. For example, I've done educational software most of my career, and I'm not going to take a job writing banner ads (not a criticism of those of us who do--it's just not my thing). Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
derailment imminent! with sproutcore, i think apple will have too much invested elsewhere to want to retain flash if they ever bought adobe i don't think it's on the cards tho - aren't they peers in the software space? On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Matt S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont think Apple *doesnt want* to use Flash on the iphone per se, in fact I think they'd love to have it. Its just a question of (depending on who you talk to) technical challenges and/or political difficulties on Apple and Adobe's part. Owning Adobe would help to solve both (not that I'm supporting the rumors, just sayin...). .m On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Helmut Granda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How would Apple want to buy Adobe when they dont even want to use the Flash Plugin in their IPhone/ITouch? and Google? is this rumor floating around? because personally this is the first time I hear about this idea... ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] AS3: Video player scrubber doesnt work until reload?
I havent seen your code but for what you are describing the scrubber wont
work because it doesnt have the information it needs in the initial load to
scrub, that is why when you reload the page it works. You need to edit your
code so that the scrubbing works in the initial load only in the section
that it has been loaded so if 10% is loaded the scrub will only work in that
10% area and so forth. Unless you have access to a streaming server that
will allow you to scrub in real time by loading content as needed (as seen
in YT and such).
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Matt S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So I've got a fairly standard video player, using code adapted from
Brimelow et al, but the problem I'm runnign into is that the first
time the page loads, it plays the video just fine, but the scrubber
doesnt work. Once I reload the page, it loads fine and the scrubber
kicks in. Has anyone else encountered this? Some of the code is
below...
thx,
.matt
-
public function VideoModule(myR,vD) {
trace(Video Module Loaded);
//
myRoot = myR;
myVideo = vD;
_videoStarted = false;
//
displayHours = true;
//
_videobg = new Sprite();
_videobg.name = bg;
_videobg.graphics.lineStyle();
_videobg.graphics.beginFill(0xFF);
_videobg.graphics.drawRect(0,0,10,10);
_videobg.graphics.endFill();
_videobg.visible = false;
addChild(_videobg);
//
_video = new Video(80,60);
//
_playbackTime = new Timedisplay();
_playbackTime.visible = false;
_duration = 0;
//
//ADD THE PLAY/PAUSE BTN
_pausebtn = new Pausebtn();
_pausebtn.name = pausebtn_mc;
_pausebtn.mouseEnabled = true;
_pausebtn.useHandCursor = true;
_pausebtn.buttonMode = true;
_pausebtn.visible = false;
addChild(_pausebtn);
//
var connection:NetConnection = new NetConnection();
connection.connect(null);
_stream = new NetStream(connection);
_stream.bufferTime = 1;
_stream.play(vD);
var client:Object = new Object();
client.onMetaData = onMetaData;
_stream.client = client;
_video.attachNetStream(_stream);
_video.x = 0;
_video.y = 0;
_video.visible = false;
addChild(_video);
addChild(_playbackTime);
//
//this timer restarts the video after it has been
paused by the resizer
resTimer = new Timer(700,1);
resTimer.addEventListener(timer, restartVideo);
//activate Listeners
addListeners();
}
public function addListeners():void {
_stream.addEventListener(NetStatusEvent.NET_STATUS,onStatus);
//_stream.addEventListener(NetStatusEvent.NET_STATUS,
onNetStatusEvent, false, 0, true);
addEventListener(Event.ENTER_FRAME,onEnterFrame);
_pausebtn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.MOUSE_DOWN,pausePlay);
myRoot.stage.addEventListener( Event.RESIZE,
videoResizer );
}
//
private function onMetaData(data:Object):void {
_duration = data.duration;
}
private function onEnterFrame(event:Event):void {
if (_duration 0 _stream.time 0) {
var nowSecs:Number =
Math.floor(_stream.time);
var totalSecs:Number =
Math.round(_duration);
/*if (nowSecs totalSecs-.2) {
_stream.seek(0);
_stream.pause();
_pausebtn.gotoAndStop(2);
_playbackTime.txt.text = 00:00:00;
}*/
_playbackTime.txt.text =
videoTimeConvert(nowSecs);// + / +
videoTimeConvert(totalSecs);
}
}
Re: [Flashcoders] When to use AS3?
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Romuald Quantin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah true, or what's working as well is saying that AS2 code is harder to maintain and will cost you more money in the future. Regarding the future argument, you can add that future versions of the project could use future functionality that won't be available with the old AS2 API. Also, ECMA262.v4/JS2/AS4/whatever will come not only to the Flashplayer, and it will be much easier to reuse AS3 code. Anyway, it's just one percent difference in penetration: http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html Mark ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] When to use AS3?
Taking time to jump to AS3 with the penetration numbers the way they are is only going to put one behind the 8-ball in regards to new features to take advantage of, performance increases, ease of maintenance and of development. Building class libraries, etc. is such a joy now and with OOP you can easily add or remove functionality at a moment's notice without disturbing some fragile AS2 framework. AS2 is safe as rain to deploy, but I would say that AS3 should be just as safe at the moment... unless you've got a lot of AS2 legacy stuff one would need to re-write to get it all together. I don't have any public facing stuff, and probably won't for quite some time, but I forced myself into strict use of AS3 a long time ago and all that AS2 hacking, debugging, and worrying is basically nearly gone altogether. Old habits are tough to break. I like new toys though, so I kicked AS2 to the curb and I'd hope most everyone would do the same. On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Mark Winterhalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Romuald Quantin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah true, or what's working as well is saying that AS2 code is harder to maintain and will cost you more money in the future. Regarding the future argument, you can add that future versions of the project could use future functionality that won't be available with the old AS2 API. Also, ECMA262.v4/JS2/AS4/whatever will come not only to the Flashplayer, and it will be much easier to reuse AS3 code. Anyway, it's just one percent difference in penetration: http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html Mark ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] faster, longer, better ... for programming maniaks
Juan Pablo Califano wrote: If you mean decompiling the push method itself, you can't because it's not actioscript but a native code, implemented directly in the player. Nice work, Juan Pablo. The code you have been posting prompts me to comment on the underlying mechanism of Flash. I know, from experience, that a lot of Flash coders (and Director, and Java) don't understand about bytecode vs. native code. If you're writing in a true compiled language like C++, your code will compile to machine language specific to your CPU. Machine code is 1's and 0's, the on/off switches that are the basis of any binary computer. Flash is cross-platform, though. It has to work on Intel processors, PowerPC, and others. It has to work on different OS's like Windows, Mac, and Unix. The machine code is different for every processor, and the implementation is specific to an OS. So, the Flash compiler can't compile to machine code. Instead, Macromedia, and now Adobe, have written a player for each of the supported platforms. The player is in machine code (ones and zeros), but our ActionScript code is not. ActionScript compiles to an intermediate bytecode, or token. The player reads these tokens, and executes the appropriate machine code. That's what makes Flash slower than C++, and also more secure--it's much more difficult to write malicious code if you don't have direct access to the machine, but have to go through an interpreter. This idea has been around for 25 years or so. The first implementation I used was UCSC Pascal, which, like Flash, compiled down to an intermediate token which was, in turn interpreted and executed by the player (we called it a virtual machine back then). It has only been in the last 10 years or so that machines have gotten fast enough to run this sort of code satisfactorily. If you understand this, you can find the bottlenecks in your code more easily, and optimize it. Loops are often the main culprit, as they have to interpret the bytecode each time through the loop. Also, if you're working with something with a fixed length like an array or XML nodes (really the same thing), it's faster if you store the length of the array in a register variable. An illustration: var arrLen:int; arrLen = myArray.length(); for (var i:int; i arrLen; i++) works faster than for (var i:int; i myArray.length(); i++) Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] faster, longer, better ... for programming maniaks
Nitpicking, but just as anything digital the SWF opcodes essentially are 1s and 0s, too. :) Anyway, the new VM supports JIT compilation to native machine code. I must admit I don't know if /all/ code gets JIT compiled or only hotspots, and I don't know if it will be recompiled for each use to hardcode variables, but that would also have implications. Mark On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Kerry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Juan Pablo Califano wrote: If you mean decompiling the push method itself, you can't because it's not actioscript but a native code, implemented directly in the player. Nice work, Juan Pablo. The code you have been posting prompts me to comment on the underlying mechanism of Flash. I know, from experience, that a lot of Flash coders (and Director, and Java) don't understand about bytecode vs. native code. If you're writing in a true compiled language like C++, your code will compile to machine language specific to your CPU. Machine code is 1's and 0's, the on/off switches that are the basis of any binary computer. Flash is cross-platform, though. It has to work on Intel processors, PowerPC, and others. It has to work on different OS's like Windows, Mac, and Unix. The machine code is different for every processor, and the implementation is specific to an OS. So, the Flash compiler can't compile to machine code. Instead, Macromedia, and now Adobe, have written a player for each of the supported platforms. The player is in machine code (ones and zeros), but our ActionScript code is not. ActionScript compiles to an intermediate bytecode, or token. The player reads these tokens, and executes the appropriate machine code. That's what makes Flash slower than C++, and also more secure--it's much more difficult to write malicious code if you don't have direct access to the machine, but have to go through an interpreter. This idea has been around for 25 years or so. The first implementation I used was UCSC Pascal, which, like Flash, compiled down to an intermediate token which was, in turn interpreted and executed by the player (we called it a virtual machine back then). It has only been in the last 10 years or so that machines have gotten fast enough to run this sort of code satisfactorily. If you understand this, you can find the bottlenecks in your code more easily, and optimize it. Loops are often the main culprit, as they have to interpret the bytecode each time through the loop. Also, if you're working with something with a fixed length like an array or XML nodes (really the same thing), it's faster if you store the length of the array in a register variable. An illustration: var arrLen:int; arrLen = myArray.length(); for (var i:int; i arrLen; i++) works faster than for (var i:int; i myArray.length(); i++) Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] faster, longer, better ... for programming mani aks
If you're writing in a true compiled language like C++, your code will compile to machine language specific to your CPU. Machine code is 1's and 0's, the on/off switches that are the basis of any binary computer. EVERYTHING on a computer is 1s and 0s, because that's the only way that (non-quantum) computers can store and access values. This idea has been around for 25 years or so. The first implementation I used was UCSC Pascal, which, like Flash, compiled down to an intermediate token which was, in turn interpreted and executed by the player (we called it a virtual machine back then). And it's still called a virtual machine, most of the time. There is arguably some difference between an interpreter and a VM, though. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Mark Winterhalder wrote: Nitpicking, but just as anything digital the SWF opcodes essentially are 1s and 0s, too. :) Fair enough. Following that to its logical conclusion, _everything_ on your computer is 1s and 0s, including the text in this email ^_^ You clearly understand what I was saying, Mark, but just a brief reiteration: compiled ActionScript has to be interpreted by the VM, which is _always_ slower than compiling directly to machine language. When I was doing Director full time, I ran some tests that showed C++ to run up to 400 times as fast as Lingo. I lobbied for years to get a true machine-language compiler for Lingo, at least for desktop apps. I was struck by how few developers understood the implications, and without other developers clamoring for the need for speed, Macromedia never went there. Director could have been a major player in the 3D game world. And don't tell me that Director 3D is fast enough. Hard-core gamers buy $8,000 machines to squeeze every last fps out of their games. With lights, shaders, high-poly objects, multiple cameras, Director is just not fast enough for a Quake or Doom LAN party. And, of course, neither is Flash. Anyway, the new VM supports JIT compilation to native machine code. I must admit I don't know if /all/ code gets JIT compiled or only hotspots, and I don't know if it will be recompiled for each use to hardcode variables, but that would also have implications. One major implication would be in loops. The complier would have no way of knowing if an array would change length in a loop, for example, so it couldn't hard code the length. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Modifying movieclip property kills tween
Hi all, I ran into something strange whereby if I modify a movieclip's property
(say alpha), it would kill the tween that will take place later that involves
the movieclip. Wonder if anyone has run into this?
1) In a test FLA, create a movieclip called test. Inside test, create two
frames, start on frame 2 and end on whatever (say frame 30).
2) Put a movieclip called box on timeline and tween it from start to end.
3) In the main timeline, add this:
stage.addEventListener(MouseEvent.MOUSE_DOWN, click);
function click(event:MouseEvent):void
{
test.box.alpha = 1; // -- changing alpha value causes the tween to stop
working, comment this out and tween works
test.gotoAndPlay(start); // tween test.box by moving it across the stage
}
- boon
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RE: [Flashcoders] faster, longer, better ... for programming mani aks
Dave Watts wrote: There is arguably some difference between an interpreter and a VM, though. True. We're getting into the nitty-gritty details here, but some interpreters read the source code as is, without compiling even to an intermediate bytecode. The original AppleSoft Basic, circa 1978, was one example. Variable names were limited to two characters to keep speed acceptable (by the standards of the day, that is--my Blackberry has more processing power than that old Apple). Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
Bob Wohl wrote: HAHAHA Well, at least one person got the joke ^_^ Professor I. M. Gestopftmitscheiss I guess there just aren't enough German speakers on the list :-^| ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
Jawhol, aber nicht jeder reagiert. BTW ik ben Nederlander. :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Thompson Sent: woensdag 30 juli 2008 21:32 To: 'Flash Coders List' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee Bob Wohl wrote: HAHAHA Well, at least one person got the joke ^_^ Professor I. M. Gestopftmitscheiss I guess there just aren't enough German speakers on the list :-^| ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Questions to ask an interviewee
Adobe is already working on bringing a version of the Flash player to the iPhone. It's going to be Apple that needs to remove some barriers to make it happen, and make it happen so that it's not just a video and animation player http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/adobe-says-flash-is-coming-to-the-iph one/ http://gizmodo.com/5017204/adobe-getting-flash-prepped-for-iphone-if-onl y-apple-will-allow-it Jason Merrill Bank of America Enterprise Technology Global Risk LLD Instructional Technology Media Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Are you a Bank of America associate interested in innovative learning ideas and technologies? Check out our internal GTO Innovative Learning Blog subscribe. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Running Projector from a DVD
I am creating an multimedia training DVD. The user interface will be a flash projector that runs the menu. The menu will allow the user to select either flash video (flv) or interactive flash content (swf). This DVD will be available for sale. Users with varying CPU speeds and DVD players will be using it. Has anyone created an application like this. Is there anything I need to worry about re I/O errors and user system configuration? The fact that I can't find anyone who has experience with this is a bit worrying. Any help would be greatly appreciated Alfred ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] faster, longer, better ... for programming mani aks
About the 0's and 1's, I think Kerry's point was clear. While C++ code, for instance is compiled into native code, that is, code that is hardwired to a particular processor, with a particular set of instructions, languages like Actionscript, are compiled to an intermediate representation that is translated into native code for the target platform. Anyway, that's faster than how most Javascript implementations work currently (as far as I know), for instance, since the JS environment has first to do the parsing and lexing of the source code, compile it on the fly to bytecode and then translate that to native code. (In all these cases, there might be extra processing layers, I'm talking about the general flow rather than the concrete implementation, which I frankly ignore). So, working with VM bytecode is adding an extra step to the whole process. It pays off in portability and deployment ease, and is a fair trade-off in most cases. And, as it's been pointed out, some languages / envorinments translate the bytecode to native code at load time (.NET on Windows) or through some mix of load-time and on-demand compiling. I understand the flash players does that to some extent, and that Adobe plans to get more stuff JIT compiled, to improve performance. Cheers Juan Pablo Califano 2008/7/30, Kerry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dave Watts wrote: There is arguably some difference between an interpreter and a VM, though. True. We're getting into the nitty-gritty details here, but some interpreters read the source code as is, without compiling even to an intermediate bytecode. The original AppleSoft Basic, circa 1978, was one example. Variable names were limited to two characters to keep speed acceptable (by the standards of the day, that is--my Blackberry has more processing power than that old Apple). Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] faster, longer, better ... for programming maniaks
You clearly understand what I was saying, Mark, but just a brief reiteration: compiled ActionScript has to be interpreted by the VM, which is _always_ slower than compiling directly to machine language. Yes, I understand and am not even disagreeing. :) However, there have been benchmarks where Java was actually marginally /faster/ than C++ for some specific tests. This seems counterintuitive, but the JIT compiler knows more at runtime than the traditional compiler can know in advance, and I'm guessing that's why it can (not generally, but in some rare situations) do better optimizations. When you have ideal programmers then of course compiled languages will be faster, but that difference is getting less as technology evolves. But of course we're talking about the Flashplayer here, and size, portability and start-up time are more important design goals than execution speed, so we'll most definitely will always have to live with a very noticeable performance penalty. Then again, we don't have to manage memory ourselves, which is a big plus. (Btw memory allocation and optimization: recycling instances where possible is also a good idea.) If somebody knows a good explanation about the when and how of the AVM2 JIT compiler, I'd be curious. The same goes for a table that shows relative performance of stuff the renderer does -- like with alpha vs. without, if rendering time grows linear with the number of pixels, how much time is wasted on DisplayObjects outside of the visible Stage, stuff like that. Mark On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Kerry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Winterhalder wrote: Nitpicking, but just as anything digital the SWF opcodes essentially are 1s and 0s, too. :) Fair enough. Following that to its logical conclusion, _everything_ on your computer is 1s and 0s, including the text in this email ^_^ You clearly understand what I was saying, Mark, but just a brief reiteration: compiled ActionScript has to be interpreted by the VM, which is _always_ slower than compiling directly to machine language. When I was doing Director full time, I ran some tests that showed C++ to run up to 400 times as fast as Lingo. I lobbied for years to get a true machine-language compiler for Lingo, at least for desktop apps. I was struck by how few developers understood the implications, and without other developers clamoring for the need for speed, Macromedia never went there. Director could have been a major player in the 3D game world. And don't tell me that Director 3D is fast enough. Hard-core gamers buy $8,000 machines to squeeze every last fps out of their games. With lights, shaders, high-poly objects, multiple cameras, Director is just not fast enough for a Quake or Doom LAN party. And, of course, neither is Flash. Anyway, the new VM supports JIT compilation to native machine code. I must admit I don't know if /all/ code gets JIT compiled or only hotspots, and I don't know if it will be recompiled for each use to hardcode variables, but that would also have implications. One major implication would be in loops. The complier would have no way of knowing if an array would change length in a loop, for example, so it couldn't hard code the length. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Modifying movieclip property kills tween
This is the proper behavior since you are overriding the properties of the
object itself. Such as if you were overriding the x, y, scale properties.
You can wrap the object into a container and edit the properties of the
container that then will be reflected into its child, in this case the
box.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Boon Chew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all, I ran into something strange whereby if I modify a movieclip's
property (say alpha), it would kill the tween that will take place later
that involves the movieclip. Wonder if anyone has run into this?
1) In a test FLA, create a movieclip called test. Inside test, create
two frames, start on frame 2 and end on whatever (say frame 30).
2) Put a movieclip called box on timeline and tween it from start to
end.
3) In the main timeline, add this:
stage.addEventListener(MouseEvent.MOUSE_DOWN, click);
function click(event:MouseEvent):void
{
test.box.alpha = 1; // -- changing alpha value causes the tween to
stop working, comment this out and tween works
test.gotoAndPlay(start); // tween test.box by moving it across the
stage
}
- boon
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Re: [Flashcoders] faster, longer, better ... for programming maniaks
Check these slides: http://www.onflex.org/ACDS/AS3TuningInsideAVM2JIT.pdf From page 43: * We make a simple hotspot-like decision about whether to interpret or JIT * Initialization functions ($init, $cinit) are interpreted * Everything else is JIT * Upshot: Don't put performance-intensive code in class initialization Cheers Juan Pablo Califano 2008/7/30, Mark Winterhalder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You clearly understand what I was saying, Mark, but just a brief reiteration: compiled ActionScript has to be interpreted by the VM, which is _always_ slower than compiling directly to machine language. Yes, I understand and am not even disagreeing. :) However, there have been benchmarks where Java was actually marginally /faster/ than C++ for some specific tests. This seems counterintuitive, but the JIT compiler knows more at runtime than the traditional compiler can know in advance, and I'm guessing that's why it can (not generally, but in some rare situations) do better optimizations. When you have ideal programmers then of course compiled languages will be faster, but that difference is getting less as technology evolves. But of course we're talking about the Flashplayer here, and size, portability and start-up time are more important design goals than execution speed, so we'll most definitely will always have to live with a very noticeable performance penalty. Then again, we don't have to manage memory ourselves, which is a big plus. (Btw memory allocation and optimization: recycling instances where possible is also a good idea.) If somebody knows a good explanation about the when and how of the AVM2 JIT compiler, I'd be curious. The same goes for a table that shows relative performance of stuff the renderer does -- like with alpha vs. without, if rendering time grows linear with the number of pixels, how much time is wasted on DisplayObjects outside of the visible Stage, stuff like that. Mark On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Kerry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Winterhalder wrote: Nitpicking, but just as anything digital the SWF opcodes essentially are 1s and 0s, too. :) Fair enough. Following that to its logical conclusion, _everything_ on your computer is 1s and 0s, including the text in this email ^_^ You clearly understand what I was saying, Mark, but just a brief reiteration: compiled ActionScript has to be interpreted by the VM, which is _always_ slower than compiling directly to machine language. When I was doing Director full time, I ran some tests that showed C++ to run up to 400 times as fast as Lingo. I lobbied for years to get a true machine-language compiler for Lingo, at least for desktop apps. I was struck by how few developers understood the implications, and without other developers clamoring for the need for speed, Macromedia never went there. Director could have been a major player in the 3D game world. And don't tell me that Director 3D is fast enough. Hard-core gamers buy $8,000 machines to squeeze every last fps out of their games. With lights, shaders, high-poly objects, multiple cameras, Director is just not fast enough for a Quake or Doom LAN party. And, of course, neither is Flash. Anyway, the new VM supports JIT compilation to native machine code. I must admit I don't know if /all/ code gets JIT compiled or only hotspots, and I don't know if it will be recompiled for each use to hardcode variables, but that would also have implications. One major implication would be in loops. The complier would have no way of knowing if an array would change length in a loop, for example, so it couldn't hard code the length. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Transition Out direction
Hello all, This is a short question. I have searched for it for a few days now, but have not even seen a hint of an answer. (I think perhaps the answer lies in understanding the Transition Manager better?) What I need is to direct which way a Transition Out goes. There is a Transition In accompanying property, startPoint:, that can determine from where the object transitions in, but this ability is not available apparently if you want to direct toward which way a Transition Out would go. Can anyone give me a clue? TIA -- Jonathan Berry, M.A. IT Consultant 619.306.1712(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the real reason the Extropy Institute closed is because Ayn Rand rose from her cryo-sleep -digibrill ( @ o ) / | | | | \ Chumby.com --- This E-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. ?? 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. This information is confidential information and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. --- ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Juan Pablo Califano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check these slides: http://www.onflex.org/ACDS/AS3TuningInsideAVM2JIT.pdf From page 43: * We make a simple hotspot-like decision about whether to interpret or JIT * Initialization functions ($init, $cinit) are interpreted * Everything else is JIT * Upshot: Don't put performance-intensive code in class initialization Thanks for the link, but I was hoping for something more specific, like an article that explains when the compilation happens. For example, a method could be compiled initially, when it first runs, or each time it gets called. I'm just curious, it's not important to know. Mark ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] huge html file
I am revisiting a fla I worked on a couple of years ago (Flash 8) and have upgraded it and saved and published it in Flash CS3. For some reason I end up with a html file that is 2MB which is full of paragraph text from the swf, with each paragraph repeated in the html file 120 times. What am I doing wrong to cause that to happen? This message is for the named persons use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or; lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. GOULBURN OVENS INSTITUTE OF TAFE and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state them to be the views of any such entity. # This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal # ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Modifying movieclip property kills tween
Hmm, this doesn't make sense. The property of an object should be allowed to
change since it's not changed during an actual tween. Also, the property
involved is not what's being tweened, so why would it nullify a tween done on
it at a different time?
- boon
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From: Helmut Granda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Modifying movieclip property kills tween
To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 1:49 PM
This is the proper behavior since you are overriding the properties of the
object itself. Such as if you were overriding the x, y, scale properties.
You can wrap the object into a container and edit the properties of the
container that then will be reflected into its child, in this case the
box.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Boon Chew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all, I ran into something strange whereby if I modify a movieclip's
property (say alpha), it would kill the tween that will take place later
that involves the movieclip. Wonder if anyone has run into this?
1) In a test FLA, create a movieclip called test. Inside
test, create
two frames, start on frame 2 and end on whatever
(say frame 30).
2) Put a movieclip called box on timeline and tween it from
start to
end.
3) In the main timeline, add this:
stage.addEventListener(MouseEvent.MOUSE_DOWN, click);
function click(event:MouseEvent):void
{
test.box.alpha = 1; // -- changing alpha value causes the tween
to
stop working, comment this out and tween works
test.gotoAndPlay(start); // tween test.box by moving it
across the
stage
}
- boon
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