Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex - could you point me at an old thread please?

2009-07-17 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
thanks nate - i'll check it out i also found a thread on the ultrashock forums here http://www.ultrashock.com/forums/flex/mxml-do-we-need-it-87269.html best allandt On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Nate Beck n...@tldstudio.com wrote: Hey Allandt, I posted a while ago on my blog about Flash

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex - could you point me at an old thread please?

2009-07-16 Thread Nate Beck
Hey Allandt, I posted a while ago on my blog about Flash vs Flex in regards to widget development. http://blog.natebeck.net/2009/01/widget-development-on-the-flash-platform/ It's not a comprehensive list of pros and cons for each... but it might give you some ideas. Cheers, Nate On Thu, Jul

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs. Flex libraries

2008-12-24 Thread Ian Thomas
*goes and tries it* Well, I'll be... Jason - just ignore everything I've said. Seems a lot has changed since I was originally playing with this - and CS4 has features I hadn't noticed. Thank you, Eric! Ian On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Eric E. Dolecki edole...@gmail.com wrote: are you

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs. Flex libraries

2008-12-23 Thread Ian Thomas
Caveat: I believe there has been some progress recently on the use of Flex components created as .swcs for use within Flash CS4. You'll probably need to look on Adobe Labs for more info on that. Other than that, to the best of my knowledge the answers are: 1. Can Flex libraries (mx.*) be used

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs. Flex libraries

2008-12-23 Thread Jason Boyd
Thanks Ian! Helps clarify a lot! -Jason 2008/12/23 Ian Thomas i...@eirias.net: Caveat: I believe there has been some progress recently on the use of Flex components created as .swcs for use within Flash CS4. You'll probably need to look on Adobe Labs for more info on that. Other than that,

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs. Flex libraries

2008-12-23 Thread Taka Kojima
Jason, There is actually a way to use Flex classes in Flash CS3 -- I figured it out a couple weeks ago when building a jabber client in AS3 using the XIFF API (I wanted to use Flash, not Flex). It's quite simple actually... I just put up a blog post about it.

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs. Flex libraries

2008-12-23 Thread Ian Thomas
Taka, That's really interesting - excellent to know! I _suspect_ (having had previous bad experiences) that doing things within the _complete_ Flex framework will be difficult/will cause errors. Flex has a lot of managers/singletons which seem to be very greedy, and assume a lot i.e. assume

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs. Flex libraries

2008-12-23 Thread Eric E. Dolecki
are you SURE you can't use embed metadata in Flash CS4? ;) Eric On 12/23/2008, Ian Thomas i...@eirias.net wrote: Taka, That's really interesting - excellent to know! I _suspect_ (having had previous bad experiences) that doing things within the _complete_ Flex framework will be

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs. Flex libraries

2008-12-23 Thread Jon Bradley
On Dec 23, 2008, at 5:10 PM, Jason Boyd wrote: 1. Can Flex libraries (mx.*) be used in Flash CS3/4? Is this as simple as adding source files and/or SWCs to an FLA project's classpath? And, where are all these libraries (Windows XP or Vista)? Yes.

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-31 Thread Kevin Aebig
Amen brother... Testify! !K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JesterXL Sent: October 27, 2005 10:47 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex Admittingly, something needs to be done. Hopefully either Blaze

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Robert A. Colvin
Flex is for rapid app development using existing components. Flash will be needed to create the components/GUI etc... So I would say that flash is to Flex as Photoshop/fireworks is to Dreamweaver... (but a lot more complex) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Mike Britton
That makes sense Robert. In the same line of thinking, as the Flex stuff evolves, I see the Flash IDE turning into a sort of Photoshop for Flash where graphical assets are designed/maintained, and FlexBuilder 2 (eclipse) becoming the programming environment. So FlexBuilder 2 will be for

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Merrill, Jason
So I would say that flash is to Flex as Photoshop/fireworks is to Dreamweaver... (but a lot more complex I don't think that analogy really works. Having run through a Flex project recently (though I still have a lot to learn in Flex), I actually think Flash is more complex than Flexbuilder when

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Jon Bradley
On Oct 27, 2005, at 10:14 AM, Mike Britton wrote: That makes sense Robert. In the same line of thinking, as the Flex stuff evolves, I see the Flash IDE turning into a sort of Photoshop for Flash where graphical assets are designed/maintained, and FlexBuilder 2 (eclipse) becoming the

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Spike
FWIW, Quite a few people I know have studiously avoided Flash development for no other reason than that they have found it a very frustrating experience. That was mostly down to a combination of the development experience when using the Flash authoring tool and the fact that ActionScript

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Michael Bedar
Personally I have never been tempted to work in Eclipse - I like the IDE and work well in it.. but I have to admit FlexBuilder2 is tempting me a bit. In most of my projects these days there is no need for an FLA, so I will definitely be learning Flex enough to at least make an educated

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Spike
It's probably worth pointing out that you can create an ActionScript 3 project in Flex Builder that never goes anywhere near the Flex Framework. I have quite a few of those on my machine for a number of things that I would previously done in the Flash authoring tool. I have spent a good portion

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Mike Britton
you can create an ActionScript 3 project in Flex Builder that never goes anywhere near the Flex Framework. That's the reason I was soothsaying about FlexBuilder 2 becoming the defacto development environment and the Flash IDE evolving into a tool for design. Eclipse will eclipse the Flash IDE

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread JesterXL
] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex you can create an ActionScript 3 project in Flex Builder that never goes anywhere near the Flex Framework. That's the reason I was soothsaying about FlexBuilder 2

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Mike Britton
Agreed. Quite selfishly, I'd like the following to happen: Blaze joins the Adobe graphics suite of tools and integrates with them in all the obvious ways (video, vector graphics, animation timeline like After Effects, etc). Its Library can export all these assets into FlexBuilder. FlexBuilder /

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Spike
As someone who has never really spent much time in the Flash authoring tool, could you explain the exact features that would be really useful in a Flex Builder library plugin? If it looks feasible I might attempt it. Spike On 10/27/05, Mike Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rather, In this

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Mike Britton
1. Map symbols to classes via some kind of package explorer wizard 2. Import existing Libraries from Flash and maintain symbols' package paths 3. Ability to export so you can import into another FlexBuilder installation There may be issues with components/EULA. Those are the biggies. I'm sure

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Spike
On 10/27/05, Mike Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Map symbols to classes via some kind of package explorer wizard Not totally sure what you mean by that... My understanding is that everything in AS 3/Flash 8.5 is a class and that symbols are no more. Like I said, I don't do much in the

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Spike
it. I've told you all of this before, hahah! You have? When? - Original Message - From: Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex As someone who has never

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread David Mendels
Hi, It depends on what you are building. A web site is a pretty broad category. For the Flash interactive we use on the home page of Macromedia.com, or for site like http://www.leoburnett.ca/ or for the streaming video on the home page of Oprah.com, I would expect a creative team to build it

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Mike Britton
Not totally sure what you mean by that... Map symbols to classes via some kind of package explorer wizard: if you create a movieclip in Flash, it goes into the Flash Library as a symbol. When you right-click this new symbol in the Library and choose 'properties' you'll see a wizard in which you

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Mike Britton
ok, in what format is the library saved from the Flash IDE? Right now from what I know it isn't possible to save a Library from the IDE, but if I were to venture a guess I'd say this would be possible using JSFL. If so, a resulting XML and SWC would make sense. Mike

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Spike
Hmm So a library is imported, and lives only in the Flash authoring tool? The only way to export library items is to add them to a .fla and export that as a .swf? The items must be stored somewhere, so maybe I can dig around and figure that out. Spike On 10/27/05, Mike Britton [EMAIL

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Judah Frangipane
I'm all for making plugins and updates to FB but if this is a huge upgrade you might want to submit your feature requests to labs.macromedia.com first. They released FB2 as alpha so that the Flash community could talk about what needs to be added. I'm not sure how open MM will be about this

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Spike
I do usually chat to Macromedia about this sort of stuff before I implement it. Often they can't give me a definitive answer on whether it will be implemented or not because it hasn't been decided yet. In that case I usually hold off until I'm fairly sure they won't. No point in me doing work

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Mike Britton
I think a Library plugin is a logical requirement if MM really wants to improve workflow. Hopefully it will be considered for FB2/8.5 update. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Jaye Morris
Let me start with, I applaud labs.macromedia.comhttp://labs.macromedia.com. On the other hand as a matter of practicality Studio 8 has just been released and it's like the universe has completely lost all perspective of what an amazing powerhouse Flash 8 is. The 8.5 Flash Player is an Alpha. That

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Jaye Morris
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex Let me start with, I applaud labs.macromedia.com http://labs.macromedia.com http://labs.macromedia.com. On the other hand as a matter of practicality Studio 8 has just been released and it's like the universe has completely lost all perspective of what

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex

2005-10-27 Thread Julian Suggate
Hi Bjorn. Best thing to do would be to download the Flex 2 Alpha and work through the tutes. Jules On 10/28/05, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flash mixed with Flex Sounds like the cocktail of the hour. Where can i find more info learning on best techniques of combining the