Re: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7
Ted, although you do mention search you don't specifically mention CF query result sets. One thing that I'd like to mention for the benefit of others using Flex and ColdFusion is that while CF can return query result sets via Remoting and Web Services this is not a native object/data type in the Flash player, and consequently Flex. While the Flash player can process this via the Remoting and Web Services APIs it's time consuming as the data is being converted into something native first. You're better off to return arrays of objects (CF structures) instead, I don' t have the figures but I know that there is a dramatic performance difference, particularly for large sets of data. Andrew Andrew Muller Partner, RocketBoots http://www.rocketboots.com.au On 5/19/05, Theodore E Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anything goes really, I return numbers, string, bools, arrays, objects and > combinations of all the above depending on what is needed. In the use cases > we are using this data service for: > > Search > Directory > Articles > Ecommerce > Personalization > > The requests and responses are all different but we want a common way to > develop them to completion. We would like a productive language like CF but > it has to work in all cases. > > The fallback here is to just use Apache Axis with Java classes on the > server > side although I would prefer something simple and easy to change like > CFC's. > > Cheers, > > Ted ;) > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Andrew Muller > > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 1:05 AM > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7 > > > > So, silly question, how are you structuring/formatting the data that > > you're returning from your webservice, something like arrays of > > objects or is it CF query result sets? > > > > Andrew > > > > On 5/19/05, Theodore E Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Remoting is great but it has a core limitation of one request at a > time > > due > > > the way AMF was implemented in the player. This is not the case with > > > WebService calls as each request gets its own XML object and its own > > > request > > > socket. Even though the payload might be larger and the parsing takes > > > longer, I want to avoid the issue of having remoting lock-up the AMF > > pipe > > > on > > > a long running request. Call me paranoid. ;) > > > > > > The issue that I had heard about was that Flex 1.5 has trouble > > digesting > > > CFC > > > web services due to certain xml usage. I wanted to make sure that Flex > > 1.5 > > > and CF7 had compatible SOAP formats. I know it sound ridiculous but I > > have > > > heard firsthand of some problems with compatibility of these two. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Ted ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On > > > > Behalf Of Andrew Muller > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:57 PM > > > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7 > > > > > > > > Ted > > > > > > > > Is there any reason, since you're using CF7, why you wouldn't > connect > > > > from Flex via Flash Remoting instead of Web Services, you'd be > > > > consuming the same CFC presumably and the data should be much less > > > > verbose... > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > Andrew Muller > > > > Partner, RocketBoots > > > > http://www.rocketboots.com.au > > > > > > > > On 5/19/05, Theodore E Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I am looking at using CF7 and CFC web services with Flex 1.5. I > > > > understand > > > > > that some have seen issues with using these two togther or was > > this > > > > limited > > > > > to CF6? > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone highlight the issue for me? > > > > > > > > > > Any help would be most appreciated. > > > > > > > > >
RE: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7
Remoting is great but it has a core limitation of one request at a time due the way AMF was implemented in the player. [Pete] You can simply create a new connection for each RemoteObject by either re-connecting by calling connect on the connection property of the RO or by using a distinct endpoint URI for each RemoteObject. The issue that I had heard about was that Flex 1.5 has trouble digesting CFC web services due to certain xml usage. I wanted to make sure that Flex 1.5 and CF7 had compatible SOAP formats. I know it sound ridiculous but I have heard firsthand of some problems with compatibility of these two. [Pete] Can you list any sources of this uncertainty? Any details as to which CF types the WebServices client library in Flex had difficulty with? If you discover any they need to be logged as bugs so we can fix them for the next release!! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7
On 5/19/05, Thijs Triemstra | Collab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > thanks for that updater link, dave. That .jar updater in the cfmx admin is > very nice but cannot be installed with firefox (osx 10.4.1), I can't select > select the updater from the java filebrowser thing, safari works fine though > :-/ > > is there a way to get a notification when there is an macromedia updates for > jrun, cfmx, flashcom etc.. ? something like macromedia.com/go/update? > I'm not sure about an e-mail notification, but I'm a big blog reader, and they have a ColdFusion Notifications feed at: http://www.macromedia.com/go/rss_coldfusion If you're a ColdFusion user, you'll also be interested to know that they just released updated JDBC drivers for all versions of MX that they highly recommend people upgrade to: http://www.macromedia.com/go/1a3c2ad0 Note that the drivers were release *after* the hotfix rollup, so you'll need to install the drivers as a separate step afterwards. Regards, Dave. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7
thanks for that updater link, dave. That .jar updater in the cfmx admin is very nice but cannot be installed with firefox (osx 10.4.1), I can't select select the updater from the java filebrowser thing, safari works fine though :-/is there a way to get a notification when there is an macromedia updates for jrun, cfmx, flashcom etc.. ? something like macromedia.com/go/update?ThijsOp 19-mei-2005, om 15:51 heeft Dave Carabetta het volgende geschreven:It should be noted that the most recent CFMX 7 hotfix rollup releasedon 4/21 has resolved this issue:http://www.macromedia.com/go/fd71533Regards,Dave. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7
On 5/19/05, dave buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > from: http://forta.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=c&catid=11 > > Using Flash Remoting With CFMX7? Watch Out For This One > I mentioned this in a comment on a prior post , but it is important enough > to warrant its own mention. If you are using Flash Remoting to access > ColdFusion code, you may run into an issue in which ColdFusion could > construct an invalid URL when appending a jsessionid. If this occurs the web > server via which you are accessing your code could throw errors. The > solution is simply, just add a ? To the end of the gateway URL, change > /flashservices/gateway to /flashservices/gateway?, doing so ensures that the > URL will be created correctly. This issue was discovered by our tech support > folks, and I believe they'll be posting a TechNote on it shortly. > It should be noted that the most recent CFMX 7 hotfix rollup released on 4/21 has resolved this issue: http://www.macromedia.com/go/fd71533 Regards, Dave. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7
Some more detailed information on this - the issue is that the IIS connector doesn't handle the ;jsessionid token in URLs unless it appears after the query string. The J2EE servlet spec does not specify that this token has to appear after the ? symbol and thus many other app servers handle it just fine. How this arises in the first place for remoting requests is that the CF bridge to the Flash Remoting gateway asks the servlet response to encode the URL and checks to see if it was decorated with a ;jsessionid token (it would do so if it thought the client couldn't handle cookies). e.g. http://www.yourserver.com/yourapp/flashservices/gateway;jsessionid= If the encoded URL did include a ;jessionid then an AMF response header is sent back to the NetServices client to tell it to append the ;jsessionid token to the gateway URL on the next request. You can see this AppendToGatewayUrl response header in the NCD. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Theodore E PatrickSent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:58 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7 Dave, Awesome, thanks for these! I completely forgot to check Ben’s blog. These are invaluable. 10 Points to Dave! Thanks, Ted ;) From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dave buhlerSent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:20 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7 from: http://forta.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=c&catid=11 Using Flash Remoting With CFMX7? Watch Out For This OneI mentioned this in a comment on a prior post , but it is important enough to warrant its own mention. If you are using Flash Remoting to access ColdFusion code, you may run into an issue in which ColdFusion could construct an invalid URL when appending a jsessionid. If this occurs the web server via which you are accessing your code could throw errors. The solution is simply, just add a ? To the end of the gateway URL, change /flashservices/gateway to /flashservices/gateway?, doing so ensures that the URL will be created correctly. This issue was discovered by our tech support folks, and I believe they'll be posting a TechNote on it shortly. CFC Results Via AMF And Case InconsistenciesI just spent a long time troubleshooting a Flex ColdFusion connectivity issue, and now that we've figured out what was going on I am sharing this in case it bites anyone else. There are two basic ways for Flex to invoke back-end ColdFusion CFCs, SOAP (Web Services) or AMF (Flash Remoting). My app had been using SOAP, but I needed to convert to AMF (the performance difference is significant). Last year Brandon Purcell wrote an excellent blog entry entitled Switching between webservices and Flash Remoting using Flex , and so I used his steps to make the switch. As he notes in that entry, ColdFusion variables returned via SOAP have their names converted to uppercase, whereas variables returned via AMF retain their original case, and so any binding code (or Flex code referencing returned data) needs to be converted from all caps to actual case. The converted code worked perfectly for CFC methods returning queries, they ran exactly as they did before, just a whole lot quicker. But my CFC methods returning structures all failed, none of my bindings and client-side code worked. The problem? Waldo Smeets figured this one out, unlike returned queries, returned structure members are all caps, even when using AMF. This is horribly inconsistent, and hopefully it'll be fixed in the future. For now, keep this in mind. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7
Dave, Awesome, thanks for these! I completely forgot to check Ben’s blog. These are invaluable. 10 Points to Dave! Thanks, Ted ;) From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dave buhler Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:20 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7 from: http://forta.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=c&catid=11 Using Flash Remoting With CFMX7? Watch Out For This One I mentioned this in a comment on a prior post , but it is important enough to warrant its own mention. If you are using Flash Remoting to access ColdFusion code, you may run into an issue in which ColdFusion could construct an invalid URL when appending a jsessionid. If this occurs the web server via which you are accessing your code could throw errors. The solution is simply, just add a ? To the end of the gateway URL, change /flashservices/gateway to /flashservices/gateway?, doing so ensures that the URL will be created correctly. This issue was discovered by our tech support folks, and I believe they'll be posting a TechNote on it shortly. CFC Results Via AMF And Case Inconsistencies I just spent a long time troubleshooting a Flex ColdFusion connectivity issue, and now that we've figured out what was going on I am sharing this in case it bites anyone else. There are two basic ways for Flex to invoke back-end ColdFusion CFCs, SOAP (Web Services) or AMF (Flash Remoting). My app had been using SOAP, but I needed to convert to AMF (the performance difference is significant). Last year Brandon Purcell wrote an excellent blog entry entitled Switching between webservices and Flash Remoting using Flex , and so I used his steps to make the switch. As he notes in that entry, ColdFusion variables returned via SOAP have their names converted to uppercase, whereas variables returned via AMF retain their original case, and so any binding code (or Flex code referencing returned data) needs to be converted from all caps to actual case. The converted code worked perfectly for CFC methods returning queries, they ran exactly as they did before, just a whole lot quicker. But my CFC methods returning structures all failed, none of my bindings and client-side code worked. The problem? Waldo Smeets figured this one out, unlike returned queries, returned structure members are all caps, even when using AMF. This is horribly inconsistent, and hopefully it'll be fixed in the future. For now, keep this in mind. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7
Anything goes really, I return numbers, string, bools, arrays, objects and combinations of all the above depending on what is needed. In the use cases we are using this data service for: Search Directory Articles Ecommerce Personalization The requests and responses are all different but we want a common way to develop them to completion. We would like a productive language like CF but it has to work in all cases. The fallback here is to just use Apache Axis with Java classes on the server side although I would prefer something simple and easy to change like CFC's. Cheers, Ted ;) > -Original Message- > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Andrew Muller > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 1:05 AM > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7 > > So, silly question, how are you structuring/formatting the data that > you're returning from your webservice, something like arrays of > objects or is it CF query result sets? > > Andrew > > On 5/19/05, Theodore E Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Remoting is great but it has a core limitation of one request at a time > due > > the way AMF was implemented in the player. This is not the case with > > WebService calls as each request gets its own XML object and its own > > request > > socket. Even though the payload might be larger and the parsing takes > > longer, I want to avoid the issue of having remoting lock-up the AMF > pipe > > on > > a long running request. Call me paranoid. ;) > > > > The issue that I had heard about was that Flex 1.5 has trouble > digesting > > CFC > > web services due to certain xml usage. I wanted to make sure that Flex > 1.5 > > and CF7 had compatible SOAP formats. I know it sound ridiculous but I > have > > heard firsthand of some problems with compatibility of these two. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Ted ;) > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > > > Behalf Of Andrew Muller > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:57 PM > > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7 > > > > > > Ted > > > > > > Is there any reason, since you're using CF7, why you wouldn't connect > > > from Flex via Flash Remoting instead of Web Services, you'd be > > > consuming the same CFC presumably and the data should be much less > > > verbose... > > > > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > Andrew Muller > > > Partner, RocketBoots > > > http://www.rocketboots.com.au > > > > > > On 5/19/05, Theodore E Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I am looking at using CF7 and CFC web services with Flex 1.5. I > > > understand > > > > that some have seen issues with using these two togther or was > this > > > limited > > > > to CF6? > > > > > > > > Can anyone highlight the issue for me? > > > > > > > > Any help would be most appreciated. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Ted Patrick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7
Ted, I just found another reason why I'd prefer remoteobject over webservices.
If a cfc extends another component, you cannot access the inherited
functions when using webservices. You will have specifically write
functions in the cfc you are calling to expsore the inherited
functions.
However, when you use remoteobject to access a cfc, you can access
inherited functions without needing to "expose" them..
Indy
On 5/19/05, Indy Nagpal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Ted:
>
> I agree with Andrew totally. Using remoteobject to invoke the cfc on
> the server is a much more efficient. I've been using remoteobject to
> access cfc and it works beautifully.
>
> A question for you: Are you going to be running cf7 and flex on the
> same jrun instance?
>
> If you are, keep in mind the following:
>
> 1. Remove the flash remoting gateway that is installed by default with
> cf7 (through jrun admin).
>
> 2. Make sure that in the flex-config.xml, you have the following value
> setup for the amf-gateway (under remote-object node).
>
> {context.root}/amfgateway
>
> 3. When calling the remote object (cfc), make sure to add the correct
> endpoint (in the example code below). So, for example, if you were
> going to call a cfc called foo with the path myfolder/folder/foo.cfc,
> you'd use the following call:
>
> endpoint="@ContextRoot()/flashservices/gateway">
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Indy
>
> On 5/19/05, Andrew Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ted
> >
> > Is there any reason, since you're using CF7, why you wouldn't connect
> > from Flex via Flash Remoting instead of Web Services, you'd be
> > consuming the same CFC presumably and the data should be much less
> > verbose...
> >
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > Andrew Muller
> > Partner, RocketBoots
> > http://www.rocketboots.com.au
> >
> > On 5/19/05, Theodore E Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I am looking at using CF7 and CFC web services with Flex 1.5. I
> > > understand
> > > that some have seen issues with using these two togther or was this
> > > limited
> > > to CF6?
> > >
> > > Can anyone highlight the issue for me?
> > >
> > > Any help would be most appreciated.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Ted Patrick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7
Hi Ted:
I agree with Andrew totally. Using remoteobject to invoke the cfc on
the server is a much more efficient. I've been using remoteobject to
access cfc and it works beautifully.
A question for you: Are you going to be running cf7 and flex on the
same jrun instance?
If you are, keep in mind the following:
1. Remove the flash remoting gateway that is installed by default with
cf7 (through jrun admin).
2. Make sure that in the flex-config.xml, you have the following value
setup for the amf-gateway (under remote-object node).
{context.root}/amfgateway
3. When calling the remote object (cfc), make sure to add the correct
endpoint (in the example code below). So, for example, if you were
going to call a cfc called foo with the path myfolder/folder/foo.cfc,
you'd use the following call:
Hope this helps.
Indy
On 5/19/05, Andrew Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ted
>
> Is there any reason, since you're using CF7, why you wouldn't connect
> from Flex via Flash Remoting instead of Web Services, you'd be
> consuming the same CFC presumably and the data should be much less
> verbose...
>
>
> Andrew
>
> Andrew Muller
> Partner, RocketBoots
> http://www.rocketboots.com.au
>
> On 5/19/05, Theodore E Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am looking at using CF7 and CFC web services with Flex 1.5. I understand
> > that some have seen issues with using these two togther or was this limited
> > to CF6?
> >
> > Can anyone highlight the issue for me?
> >
> > Any help would be most appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ted Patrick
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7
from: http://forta.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=c&catid=11 Using Flash Remoting With CFMX7? Watch Out For This One I mentioned this in a comment on a prior post , but it is important enough to warrant its own mention. If you are using Flash Remoting to access ColdFusion code, you may run into an issue in which ColdFusion could construct an invalid URL when appending a jsessionid. If this occurs the web server via which you are accessing your code could throw errors. The solution is simply, just add a ? To the end of the gateway URL, change /flashservices/gateway to /flashservices/gateway?, doing so ensures that the URL will be created correctly. This issue was discovered by our tech support folks, and I believe they'll be posting a TechNote on it shortly. CFC Results Via AMF And Case Inconsistencies I just spent a long time troubleshooting a Flex ColdFusion connectivity issue, and now that we've figured out what was going on I am sharing this in case it bites anyone else. There are two basic ways for Flex to invoke back-end ColdFusion CFCs, SOAP (Web Services) or AMF (Flash Remoting). My app had been using SOAP, but I needed to convert to AMF (the performance difference is significant). Last year Brandon Purcell wrote an excellent blog entry entitled Switching between webservices and Flash Remoting using Flex , and so I used his steps to make the switch. As he notes in that entry, ColdFusion variables returned via SOAP have their names converted to uppercase, whereas variables returned via AMF retain their original case, and so any binding code (or Flex code referencing returned data) needs to be converted from all caps to actual case. The converted code worked perfectly for CFC methods returning queries, they ran exactly as they did before, just a whole lot quicker. But my CFC methods returning structures all failed, none of my bindings and client-side code worked. The problem? Waldo Smeets figured this one out, unlike returned queries, returned structure members are all caps, even when using AMF. This is horribly inconsistent, and hopefully it'll be fixed in the future. For now, keep this in mind. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7
So, silly question, how are you structuring/formatting the data that you're returning from your webservice, something like arrays of objects or is it CF query result sets? Andrew On 5/19/05, Theodore E Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Remoting is great but it has a core limitation of one request at a time due > the way AMF was implemented in the player. This is not the case with > WebService calls as each request gets its own XML object and its own > request > socket. Even though the payload might be larger and the parsing takes > longer, I want to avoid the issue of having remoting lock-up the AMF pipe > on > a long running request. Call me paranoid. ;) > > The issue that I had heard about was that Flex 1.5 has trouble digesting > CFC > web services due to certain xml usage. I wanted to make sure that Flex 1.5 > and CF7 had compatible SOAP formats. I know it sound ridiculous but I have > heard firsthand of some problems with compatibility of these two. > > Cheers, > > Ted ;) > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Andrew Muller > > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:57 PM > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7 > > > > Ted > > > > Is there any reason, since you're using CF7, why you wouldn't connect > > from Flex via Flash Remoting instead of Web Services, you'd be > > consuming the same CFC presumably and the data should be much less > > verbose... > > > > > > Andrew > > > > Andrew Muller > > Partner, RocketBoots > > http://www.rocketboots.com.au > > > > On 5/19/05, Theodore E Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am looking at using CF7 and CFC web services with Flex 1.5. I > > understand > > > that some have seen issues with using these two togther or was this > > limited > > > to CF6? > > > > > > Can anyone highlight the issue for me? > > > > > > Any help would be most appreciated. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Ted Patrick > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7
Remoting is great but it has a core limitation of one request at a time due the way AMF was implemented in the player. This is not the case with WebService calls as each request gets its own XML object and its own request socket. Even though the payload might be larger and the parsing takes longer, I want to avoid the issue of having remoting lock-up the AMF pipe on a long running request. Call me paranoid. ;) The issue that I had heard about was that Flex 1.5 has trouble digesting CFC web services due to certain xml usage. I wanted to make sure that Flex 1.5 and CF7 had compatible SOAP formats. I know it sound ridiculous but I have heard firsthand of some problems with compatibility of these two. Cheers, Ted ;) > -Original Message- > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Andrew Muller > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:57 PM > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7 > > Ted > > Is there any reason, since you're using CF7, why you wouldn't connect > from Flex via Flash Remoting instead of Web Services, you'd be > consuming the same CFC presumably and the data should be much less > verbose... > > > Andrew > > Andrew Muller > Partner, RocketBoots > http://www.rocketboots.com.au > > On 5/19/05, Theodore E Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am looking at using CF7 and CFC web services with Flex 1.5. I > understand > > that some have seen issues with using these two togther or was this > limited > > to CF6? > > > > Can anyone highlight the issue for me? > > > > Any help would be most appreciated. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Ted Patrick > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7
Ted Is there any reason, since you're using CF7, why you wouldn't connect from Flex via Flash Remoting instead of Web Services, you'd be consuming the same CFC presumably and the data should be much less verbose... Andrew Andrew Muller Partner, RocketBoots http://www.rocketboots.com.au On 5/19/05, Theodore E Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am looking at using CF7 and CFC web services with Flex 1.5. I understand > that some have seen issues with using these two togther or was this limited > to CF6? > > Can anyone highlight the issue for me? > > Any help would be most appreciated. > > Cheers, > > Ted Patrick > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Web Services and CF7
These may be of use: http://www.cflex.net/showfiledetails.cfm?ObjectID=177 http://www.cflex.net/showfiledetails.cfm?ObjectID=141 Theodore E Patrick wrote: >I am looking at using CF7 and CFC web services with Flex 1.5. I understand >that some have seen issues with using these two togther or was this limited >to CF6? > >Can anyone highlight the issue for me? > >Any help would be most appreciated. > >Cheers, > >Ted Patrick > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Web Services and CF7
I am looking at using CF7 and CFC web services with Flex 1.5. I understand that some have seen issues with using these two togther or was this limited to CF6? Can anyone highlight the issue for me? Any help would be most appreciated. Cheers, Ted Patrick Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
