Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts

2004-07-23 Thread Durk Talsma
I'll wrap up the new traffic files tonight. I the mean time, I've add small tar file containing the necessary traffic files. Should work, but haven't had much chance of testing it. Cheers, Durk On Friday 23 July 2004 07:21, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Jonathan Polley wrote: I just updated

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Spitfire

2004-07-23 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Vivian Vivian Meazza writes I've implemented a Coffman cartridge starter, and it would be nice to have a cloud of black smoke come out of the exhaust and drift downwind at wind speed before dispersing. I can do the first bit, but not the rest. I have my eye on Fred's bump-mapped 3D clouds.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Prerelease 2 and traffic manger

2004-07-23 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Durk Durk Talsma writes Also, note that including the MD-11 at this stage is not my first preference: that would be including the new traffic manager and AIFlightplan code, and use *only* the 737 traffic. On the other hand: The MD-11 *is* the first aircraft that has multi livery support,

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Latest OpenAL for new build?

2004-07-23 Thread Vivian Meazza
Norman Vine wrote: Sent: 23 July 2004 05:00 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Latest OpenAL for new build? Jon Berndt writes: Right now we are relying on Norman Vine's OpenAL files. We must just hope that Norman can find the tme to update

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] shrinking dialogs

2004-07-23 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: This is a workaround for an issue where the xml dialogs were shrinking on subsequent pops. Committed. Thanks. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Prerelease 2 and traffic manger

2004-07-23 Thread Erik Hofman
Jon S Berndt wrote: \ Is the MD-11 a JSBSim aircraft? I thought it was, but I don't recall it being in our CVS ... is the AI aircraft its own FDM? It is and it's in JSBSim CVS (since about two weeks). AIModels are driver by a very (very) simple FDM that basically makes sure the aircraft goes in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Still need opinions/suggestions re: recommendation to Robin Peel/airport taxiway data format

2004-07-23 Thread Erik Hofman
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: I think someone should implement the followings: 1. Treat each taxi way as a line. 2. Joint the end of two taxi ways together. http://www.student.yorku.ca/~ampere/STEP1.jpg 3. Apply fillet. http://www.student.yorku.ca/~ampere/STEP2.jpg 4. Apply loth.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts

2004-07-23 Thread Erik Hofman
Jonathan Polley wrote: I just updated tonight and FlightGear no longer runs on the Mac. As of last night, everything ran just file, but after updating everything (SimGear, FlightGear, and base packages) I get an abort. Oops, sorry all. This is caused by me not including a bunch of

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts

2004-07-23 Thread Vivian Meazza
Erik Hofman Sent: 23 July 2004 08:52 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts Jonathan Polley wrote: I just updated tonight and FlightGear no longer runs on the Mac. As of last night, everything ran just file, but after updating

[Flightgear-devel] MSFS scenery

2004-07-23 Thread Roman Grigoriev
Hi guys! Could you please tell me what's the status of BGL loader Maybe someone did this work on imporing BGL scenery to flightgear or maybe converting it to another formats (.3ds .ac ) Thanx in advance Bye Roman ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts

2004-07-23 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Vivian Meazza wrote: Erik Hofman Sent: 23 July 2004 08:52 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts Jonathan Polley wrote: I just updated tonight and FlightGear no longer runs on the Mac. As of last night, everything ran just file,

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts

2004-07-23 Thread Vivian Meazza
Frederic Bouvier asked Sent: 23 July 2004 11:14 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts Vivian Meazza wrote: Erik Hofman Sent: 23 July 2004 08:52 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Initializing OpenAL sound manager

2004-07-23 Thread David Megginson
Matthew wrote: Just installed OpenAL via CVS, no difference...Still aborts. Are you sure that the old one is completely uninstalled from your system? And did you do a make clean and rerun configure in simgear and flightgear afterwards? All the best, David

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Still need opinions/suggestions re: recommendation to Robin Peel/airport taxiway data format

2004-07-23 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Erik Hofman wrote: Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: I think someone should implement the followings: 1. Treat each taxi way as a line. 2. Joint the end of two taxi ways together. http://www.student.yorku.ca/~ampere/STEP1.jpg 3. Apply fillet. http://www.student.yorku.ca/~ampere/STEP2.jpg 4. Apply loth.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts

2004-07-23 Thread Vivian Meazza
I wrote Sent: 23 July 2004 11:49 To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts Frederic Bouvier asked Sent: 23 July 2004 11:14 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts Vivian

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts

2004-07-23 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Vivian Meazza wrote: I've re-downloaded the current cvs. Here's the backtrace ... Can't say that it means anything to me! Is it any good to you, or can I do something else? It looks like useless garbage, sorry. Do you run fg with --log-level=bulk or whatever is the most verbose ( I don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts

2004-07-23 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Vivian Meazza wrote: I've re-downloaded the current cvs. Here's the backtrace ... Can't say that it means anything to me! Is it any good to you, or can I do something else? It looks like useless garbage, sorry. Do you run fg with --log-level=bulk or

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts

2004-07-23 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L. Olson writes: You have to compile with -g to include debugging symbols so that the back trace makes sense. That said, the very few times I've tried to run gdb with flightgear on windows, I was never very successful. GDB might have some problems on 95,98 and WinMe, but runs fine

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts

2004-07-23 Thread Vivian Meazza
Norman Vine wrote Sent: 23 July 2004 14:15 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts Curtis L. Olson writes: You have to compile with -g to include debugging symbols so that the back trace makes sense. That said, the very few times I've

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts

2004-07-23 Thread Vivian Meazza
Frederic Bouvier asked Sent: 23 July 2004 13:51 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts Vivian Meazza wrote: I've re-downloaded the current cvs. Here's the backtrace ... Can't say that it means anything to me! Is it any good to you, or

[Flightgear-devel] Success

2004-07-23 Thread Jon Berndt
I'll stop whining, now. ;-) I was able to build simgear and flightgear with the OpenAL libs. Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-23 Thread Jim Wilson
Bernie Bright said: Jim Wilson wrote: globals-get_tile_mgr()-all_queues_empty() and cur_fdm_state-get_inited()) { ^^^ ^^^ Same here. That's a head scratcher. Never would have thought that would compile like that. Learn something new

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-23 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Jim Wilson wrote: Bernie Bright said: Jim Wilson wrote: globals-get_tile_mgr()-all_queues_empty() and cur_fdm_state-get_inited()) { ^^^ ^^^ Same here. That's a head scratcher. Never would have thought that would compile like that. Learn something new everyday.

[Flightgear-devel] Tried the Spitfire

2004-07-23 Thread Jim Wilson
Very nice! Ok if I borrow the pilot dude for the p51 cockpit? Now, should it come up running like the other A/C? My personal preference is to not, but I think in the past folks have prefered aircraft already started. FWIW (after release) I think a preset e.g. --auto-start that defaulted to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-23 Thread Al West
On Friday 23 July 2004 15:23, Jim Wilson wrote: Sure enough, it's right there in Stroustrup. The strange part is never having noticed this before now. What is it with these developers at microsoft anyway? ;-) Since when have they had developers? Cheers, Al

[Flightgear-devel] OpenAL sound breaking up

2004-07-23 Thread Jim Wilson
I noticed that the least bit of extra CPU/Bus activity can cause the sounds to stutter after our switch to OpenAL. This might be a reason to remain conservative with our sound files (e.g. 8bit Mono). This is especially noticable on my system with the 16bit/44khz/Stereo merlin sample with the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Success

2004-07-23 Thread Al West
On Friday 23 July 2004 15:21, Jon Berndt wrote: I'll stop whining, now. ;-) I was able to build simgear and flightgear with the OpenAL libs. I've built it fine too - acutally being able to run it is a different matter. Is it running for you? I've tried all sorts of openalrc files with or

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Success

2004-07-23 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:05:13 +0100 Al West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 23 July 2004 15:21, Jon Berndt wrote: I'll stop whining, now. ;-) I was able to build simgear and flightgear with the OpenAL libs. I've built it fine too - acutally being able to run it is a different matter. Is it

[Flightgear-devel] Visual Reference Point scheme works

2004-07-23 Thread Jim Wilson
It has been a while since this feature was added, but I thought Jon might like to know that using his VRP feature I've succeeded in positioning the Cessna 310 (U-3A) visual model identically under both JSBSim and YASim flight dynamics models. The YASim config for the c310 has the origin placed

[Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] proposed message degrade in ATC code

2004-07-23 Thread Jim Wilson
For now anyway can we reduce this a level? This makes the airport not found message (in ATC code only) warning level. I'm amazed at how often this gets called. Index: src/ATC/ATCutils.cxx === RCS file:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] proposed message degrade in ATC code

2004-07-23 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: For now anyway can we reduce this a level? This makes the airport not found message (in ATC code only) warning level. I'm amazed at how often this gets called. Good idea, it's committed. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Tried the Spitfire

2004-07-23 Thread Vivian Meazza
Jim Wilson wrote: Sent: 23 July 2004 16:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Tried the Spitfire Very nice! Ok if I borrow the pilot dude for the p51 cockpit? Please do - but note that he's wearing RAF blue serge trousers (pants :-)), and 1940's pattern life jacket

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Still need opinions/suggestions re: recommendation to Robin Peel/airport taxiway data format

2004-07-23 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
What's that? Regards, Ampere On July 23, 2004 03:43 am, Erik Hofman wrote: Sure, now try it in 3d space using WGS84 coordinates ... Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Visual Reference Point scheme works

2004-07-23 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:07:17 - Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been a while since this feature was added, but I thought Jon might like to know that using his VRP feature I've succeeded in positioning the Cessna 310 (U-3A) visual model identically under both JSBSim and YASim

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts

2004-07-23 Thread Vivian Meazza
I wrote Sent: 23 July 2004 14:39 To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts Frederic Bouvier asked Sent: 23 July 2004 13:51 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts Vivian Meazza

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest OpenAL for new build?

2004-07-23 Thread John Wojnaroski
Hi, This one has me stumped. Downloaded the latest CVS version of OpenAL and did a build and install.. When compiling SimGear-0.3.6-pre2 get the following error in ../simgear/sound/opena1_test1.cxx ...openal_test1.cxx:113: undefined reference to 'alutLoadWavFile' ...openal_test1.cxx:125:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Took advantage of Erik's...

2004-07-23 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I'm sorry, but I still don't get it. Thanks in advance, Ampere On July 22, 2004 03:44 am, Erik Hofman wrote: Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Thank you. So, is there anyway to include more than one XML file? The reason I ask is because I have multiple mesh files, and each of them has its own

[Flightgear-devel] Fw: Scenery Designer

2004-07-23 Thread Peter Larson
I'm new here and am having problems with fgsd on Windows XP Pro. I've got a copy of AC3D and want to import an object and place it in fgsd, but it keeps crashing when I try to load the object. Am I missing a support application, or is there another issue on Windoz? Peter --- Outgoing mail is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fw: Scenery Designer

2004-07-23 Thread Boris Koenig
Hi ! Peter Larson wrote: I'm new here and am having problems with fgsd on Windows XP Pro. I've got a copy of AC3D and want to import an object and place it in fgsd, but it keeps crashing when I try to load the object. Am I missing a support application, or is there another issue on Windoz? Peter

[Flightgear-devel] test the L1011-500

2004-07-23 Thread Tiago Gusmão
sorry for the delay, but i've been quite busy, here is is link: http://tristar500.net/modelo3d/L1011-500.zip the 3d model is still needing fixes, nose will be remade, so i can apply the windshield texture separetely from the side texture to avoid the stretch effect. also slats are not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with autogen in SuSe Linux Pro 9.1

2004-07-23 Thread Oliver C.
On Friday 23 July 2004 06:12, Dave Perry wrote: The warnings are explained. by running info as documented and are not an issue. Questions 1. Has anyone had a similar problem with SuSe 9.1? Yes, i did with Slackware 10.0. 2. Any ideas how to get past this? To solve that error just

[Flightgear-devel] Error message from the latest CVS

2004-07-23 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Dialog scenery_loading not defined The message only appears when one is in KSFO. As for other airports, the message doesn't appear; neither does the scenery. All there is is an ocean. Can anyone duplicate these problems? Regards, Ampere ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] test the L1011-500

2004-07-23 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
They go in the Aircraft directory. Regards, Ampere On July 23, 2004 11:58 pm, Jon Berndt wrote: Oh, good. I was hoping someone would do an L1011. Where do all these files go? Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Flightgear-devel] test the L1011-500

2004-07-23 Thread Jon Berndt
sorry for the delay, but i've been quite busy, here is is link: http://tristar500.net/modelo3d/L1011-500.zip the 3d model is still needing fixes, nose will be remade, so i can apply the windshield texture separetely from the side texture to avoid the stretch effect. also slats are not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fw: Scenery Designer

2004-07-23 Thread Peter Larson
Boris, thanks. It appears to be the Crease command. I created a box, removed the crease and it imported OK (now I have to work through how to save the scenery so that it gets picked up by the Sim!). As I said, I'm new to this (as in just the last 4 days) and have no experience with plib. Is there

[Flightgear-devel] lights flaring on runways in FG

2004-07-23 Thread Peter Larson
Not sure this is the right forum, I'm getting coloured apostraphe shapes around 200 pixels high on the screen. They appear to be related to runway lights. They also appear while the sim is in the air. I'm running Windows XP Pro with a Radeon 9200SE video card and Gigabyte GA-7VT600 motherboard.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest OpenAL for new build?

2004-07-23 Thread John Wojnaroski
- Original Message - From: John Wojnaroski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest OpenAL for new build? Hi, This one has me stumped. Downloaded the latest CVS version of