[Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Newsletter topic idea solicitation

2004-06-14 Thread Jon S Berndt
If there are any suggestions or requests for featured topics to be in the second issue of the JSBSim newsletter, Back of the Envelope, please let me know by the end of the week. Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Anyone read polish?

2004-06-11 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:22:30 +0200 Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Does anyone read enough polish to double check that everything these guys are doing is within the spirit of the GPL? http://www.allegro.pl/show_item.php?item=26723501 As far as I can decipher it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Anyone read polish?

2004-06-11 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 09:14:43 -0500 Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone read enough polish to double check that everything these guys are doing is within the spirit of the GPL? http://www.allegro.pl/show_item.php?item=26723501 They are our top web site referrer this month which

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Anyone read polish?

2004-06-11 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:54:56 +0200 Gunnstein Lye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The GPL does not prohibit selling, and does not say anything about how much they can charge, as long as any changes they have made are made available for free (or the cost of the medium and postage). True, that's why I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MD11 Performance notes

2004-06-10 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:03:52 +0200 Durk Talsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [JSBSim MD-11 Engine comments] Durk: Dave Culp can answer this more precisely if he's around, but for a quick response let me tell you that we have recently made some changes and fixes to the tank operation for JSBSim.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question re: bug reporting/tracking/etc.

2004-06-08 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 12:44:33 -0400 Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the project was hosted at SF, there was a bug tracking system there. Was it used? Would having a working BTS be a good thing, I think a bug/feature request facility such as the one on the SourceForge site is

[Flightgear-devel] Apple compilers

2004-05-25 Thread Jon S Berndt
I'm not an Apple guy, so I can't test this for sure, but can someone tell me if it is still true that some Apple compilers that are used by FlightGear developers still do not have this function: inline char* gcvt (double value, int ndigits, char *buf) ?? Thanks, Jon

[Flightgear-devel] Panels, Properties, and FDMs

2004-05-24 Thread Jon S Berndt
For JSBSim (and I imagine, YASim, and others), our turbine model (for example) features various temperatures that can be reported on a panel display. For any unique aircraft, as well, there will be some arbitrary number of engines, with controls associated with each engine. In JSBSim, at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost

2004-05-21 Thread Jon S Berndt
FWIW, Gimp has a script that creates text arcs that I have considered using if I ever get a chance to make some instruments. Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

[Flightgear-devel] JSBSim C-172 Performance

2004-05-20 Thread Jon S Berndt
Well, I got a note back from Cessna and (as I pretty much expected) they were tight-lipped about supplying any aero/mass props data, saying instead that the owner's manual was about all I could get. After thinking about this some more, there are three possibilities I can see for any perceived

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim C-172 Performance

2004-05-20 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 20 May 2004 18:48:13 -0400 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you might have been onto something with the moments of inertia: our current IXX, IYY, and IZZ apply to a Cessna 182, which is a heavier plane than a 172, though with the same wing area and wingspan. Here are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim prop changes

2004-05-19 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 19 May 2004 07:06:04 -0700 Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vivian Meazza wrote: Performance: max = 437mph at combat emergency power at 25000ft, 413mph at 15000ft, 395mph at 5000ft, cruising speed 362mph, climb rate 3475 ft/min. Service ceiling 41,900ft. I just ordered a copy of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Concorde model

2004-05-11 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 11 May 2004 17:09:57 +0100 Giles Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for telling me about a possible duplication of effort. I think Concorde has to be done in JSBsim - I can't honestly see the YASIM solver being able to cope with 6 elevons (and the quite complicated relationship

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MD-11

2004-05-07 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 7 May 2004 19:26:22 +0200 Durk Talsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool! Drop us a note, when you think you fixed it, and I'm sure Innis and I are eager to compete for the next round of screenshots. :-) Cheers, Durk Someone sent me an MD-11 FDM for JSBSim a couple of weeks ago. I don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MD-11

2004-05-07 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 7 May 2004 20:03:22 +0200 Durk Talsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jon, That was me. The problem was that upon initialization the aircraft tumbles over and settles on the runway with a bang. Innis Cunningham discovered that we could solve the problem in part by moving the main gears

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Beech 99

2004-04-30 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 13:57:03 +0100 David Luff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The turbocharged piston engine is a completely different beast from a turboprop though, I would imagine the latter has more in common with the turbine model. OTOH, the Piper Navajo is a GA twin that uses turbocharged piston

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Altitude Hold Autopilot example

2004-04-30 Thread Jon S Berndt
Roy Vegard Ovesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 30 April 2004 13:59, Jon Berndt wrote: between where you are and where you want to be. This error term is limited to 100, filtered with a slight lag, and then multiplied by 0.1 in order to get a commanded HDOT (time derivative of altitude,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] COLLISION DETECTION: possible or not?

2004-04-30 Thread Jon S Berndt
Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Why do you think that collision detection is not implemented? You can crash to the ground and to the buildings (maybe even other aircraft?), so there must be some logic behind this. AFAIK all the FDMs share the same bug here. it's a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2004-04-28 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:29:08 +0100 David Luff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The tests compile and link with ../src/libopenal.a, so unless you've hacked their build script or replaced that lib with Norman's then you'll still belinking (the tests) against the original. I'll have to adjust that. Has

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2004-04-28 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:57:55 +0100 David Luff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Norman, this compiles, links, and produces the expected sound from FlightGear :-) Many thanks for sorting this - I certainly couldn't have got it working otherwise. Cheers - Dave This was all done under CygWin? Can someone

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2004-04-28 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:00:20 +0100 David Luff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/28/04 at 9:04 AM Jon S Berndt wrote: On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:29:08 +0100 David Luff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those using CygWin, it's fatal at the moment. Norman's latest openal build fixes it :-) You have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2004-04-28 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:12:20 -0400 Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nor was I, but usually one can find a way to compile Windows code with gcc but it often requires digging into the depths of the gnu linker documentation and studying the x86 specific link options for creating DLLs for WIN32.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Input input.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 input.hxx, 1.17, 1.18

2004-04-27 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 06:58:41 -0700 Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many/most of the joysticks don't work for windows users. They download the program, try it, and then complain when the view is constantly spinning around. One presumes the axis mappings are simply different between the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Questions about flight model

2004-04-23 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 17:43:59 +0200 Luca Masera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, about JSBBim: the airplane has three tanks, but the flight model uses only the first. In other words, if I start FlightGear with the first tank empty, the engine is off and doesn't starts. This happens even

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MD-11

2004-04-23 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 19:03:15 +0200 Durk Talsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, I just played a bit with the main gears' position, moving them backward by just a bit, and right now, I have the situation where upon initialization, the aircraft tumbles over once and than settles with a bang on the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VRP and Camera View

2004-04-22 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 13:52:03 -0400 Josh Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be nice to be able to turn on some sort of cursor in FlightGear to show where the VRP and CG are. Maybe three lines through the point and parallel to the axis of the model. I think it would help aircraft design

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MD-11

2004-04-22 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 20:49:25 +0200 Durk Talsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, that's right. It happened in that order :-) When I first tried loading the MD11, it appeared to initialize a few hundred feet above the ground, and Hmm. I think this would be the first thing to address. I don't

[Flightgear-devel] Web, tables, and image layout

2004-04-21 Thread Jon S Berndt
I went ahead and posted the update to the JSBSim web site last night. The slide image buttons don't quite line up. When they do, the effect will be quite nice, I believe. Anyhow, the only thing I can think of that could be responsible at this time is that the images must be an even number of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Web, tables, and image layout

2004-04-21 Thread Jon S Berndt
I figured it out. This works: tr tdA href=main.html target=MAIN IMG onmouseover=loadImage(this,sbA2);showStatus(alt);return true; onmouseout=defaultStatus();loadImage(this,sbA1); alt=JSBSim Home src=menu_sep_home_1.jpg border=0/A/td /tr tr tdA

Re: [Flightgear-devel] tables and images and borders ... oh my

2004-04-20 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:07:28 +0100 Richard Bytheway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming that you are talking about HTML here... Open the table with: table cellpadding=0 borders=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding is the space between adjacent cells borders is the width of the border around each cell

Re: [Flightgear-devel] tables and images and borders ... oh my

2004-04-20 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 09:34:29 -0500 Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon S Berndt wrote: Done that. One thing that helped was to set the font size used in teh table to a small number. But, still, I can't get my cut images in the cells with no borders and no padding to line up. Browser

Re: [Flightgear-devel] tables and images and borders ... oh my

2004-04-20 Thread Jon S Berndt
Richard Bytheway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some browsers get confused if you have CR/LF between elements. Although they shouldn't render white space (except between words) some do. Try putting the whole td.../td on one line in the HMTL file. Send me the table code if you want me to have a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building FlightGear / getting some errors

2004-04-19 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 07:11:26 -0700 Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon S. Berndt wrote: undefined reference to `___gxx_personality_v0' undefined reference to `__Unwind_Resume' ... Those are internal g++ things. It looks like you upgraded your compiler without doing a full rebuild? Versions

[Flightgear-devel] MingW and FlightGear

2004-04-12 Thread Jon S Berndt
Can anyone tell me if FlightGear has been successfully compiled and linked using mingw? Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MingW and FlightGear

2004-04-12 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:45:48 -0400 Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before Fred started providing MSVC compiled executables IIRC the the only Win32 executables ever available for download from flightgear.org were MingW compiled. What problems are you experiencing ? Norman Nothing really. I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Todo List

2004-04-12 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:06:27 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wolfram Kuss) wrote: BTW, I had a look for a X15 3D model a short while ago. There is a new MSFS/CFS model, but it is not much better than the old one, so I don't think it is worth it. The one we have now doesn't seem too bad, but the skins

[Flightgear-devel] Command Line Options

2004-04-09 Thread Jon S Berndt
Where in the FlightGear code are command line options parsed? Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

[Flightgear-devel] DOS escape characters

2004-04-09 Thread Jon S Berndt
Does anyone know how to do escape sequences in a DOS console? I mean, how do you tell the DOS command shell to BOLD or Underline or change the color of text? Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mingw

2004-04-08 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 10:14:57 -0500 Jon S Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does one get g++ under CygWin to use the mingw includes and libraries instead of the nominally supplied ones (which, I think, require the cygwin dll to execute). Jon http://www.delorie.com/howto/cygwin/mno-cygwin

[Flightgear-devel] Mingw

2004-04-08 Thread Jon S Berndt
How does one get g++ under CygWin to use the mingw includes and libraries instead of the nominally supplied ones (which, I think, require the cygwin dll to execute). Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mingw

2004-04-08 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 16:26:08 +0100 David Luff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/8/04 at 10:14 AM Jon S Berndt wrote: How does one get g++ under CygWin to use the mingw includes and libraries instead of the nominally supplied ones (which, I think, require the cygwin dll to execute). I *think

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mingw

2004-04-08 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 19:27:50 +0200 Frederic Bouvier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess that you should link with -lwsock32 ( or -lws2_32 if it isn't working ) -Fred That fixed it, thanks. Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Flightgear-devel] [OT] g77 and link errors

2004-04-07 Thread Jon S Berndt
I'm trying to build an application in gnu fortran (g77) but I end up with these link errors: /usr/bin/../lib/libg2c.a(fmtlib.o)(.text+0x57):fmtlib.c: undefined reference to `__umoddi3' /usr/bin/../lib/libg2c.a(fmtlib.o)(.text+0x79):fmtlib.c: undefined reference to `__udivdi3' Anyone selling

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] g77 and link errors

2004-04-07 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 12:21:12 -0700 Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon S. Berndt wrote: I'm trying to build an application in gnu fortran (g77) but I end up with these link errors: undefined reference to `__umoddi3' undefined reference to `__udivdi3' Those look like the software math emulation

Re: [Flightgear-devel] More on JSBSim ground trimming issue

2004-04-06 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 14:05:38 - Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon Berndt said: As opposed to? I suppose you could say everything I'm asking about is visual, since I'm neither a pilot nor an engineer :-) It would be nice to eventually have the compression values to pull off visual

Re: [Flightgear-devel] More on JSBSim ground trimming issue

2004-04-06 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 16:46:53 +0200 Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon wrote: We do have those values. I just never thought about publishing them. What do you need? What does YASim provide? What would be best? normalized compression would be great: gear/gear[]/compression-norm Erik Now,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Modifying Existing FDM

2004-04-06 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 11:41:43 -0400 Sonny Hammaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Whom it May Concern, and to Whomever may be of assistance, I'm working on modifying a jsbsim FDM to represent an RPV with an autonomous autopilot. The autopilot and gnc systems are designed in Simulink, and we're

Re: [Flightgear-devel] More on JSBSim ground trimming issue

2004-04-06 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 18:58:03 +0200 Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JSBSim does basically the same (although there is a name allocated for it), but the real question is: Is left most defined 0, or is right mos define d0, or is it something completely different (numbered in order of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] More on JSBSim ground trimming issue

2004-04-06 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 19:41:08 +0200 Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /gear/nose /gear/l_main /gear/r_main /gear/tail_skid /gear/left_top /gear/right_tip The only change might be that YASim should allow for defining named gear locations. Erik I don't know anything about how the 3D animation

Re: [Flightgear-devel] More on JSBSim ground trimming issue

2004-04-06 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 18:05:30 - Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe adding the text description in the gear/gear[n] path (the NOSE, L_MAIN, R_MAIN, etc) might help someone trying to figure out which was which. But of course they could just look at the config file and count (e.g. R_MAIN

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Modifying Existing FDM

2004-04-06 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 14:42:48 -0400 Sonny Hammaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the prop file prop_75in2f.xml what is the input column for the Look up tables of C_THRUST, and C_POWER. The first column that is thanks This is a 75 inch diameter, 2 bladed, fixed-pitch propeller. The first column

Re: [Flightgear-devel] More on JSBSim ground trimming issue

2004-04-06 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:16:18 - Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erik Hofman said: Your idea of simple is different then mine. Most of the time I know the names I've given objects for 3d animations, I never seem to rememberthe order in which I put them in the file ... Yep. It just

[Flightgear-devel] Consistent gear modeling for animation compatibility

2004-04-06 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 20:58:24 +0200 Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your idea of simple is different then mine. Most of the time I know the names I've given objects for 3d animations, I never seem to remember the order in which I put them in the file ... Erik So ... to get some closure

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Modifying Existing FDM

2004-04-06 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 16:47:42 -0400 Sonny Hammaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for the tips. So you're suggesting that I leave the J (advance ratio), and coefficients alone, and just modify the Ixx and Diameter parameters accordingly? DONE! Well, this kind of leads me back to the original

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Modifying Existing FDM

2004-04-06 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 17:16:01 -0400 Sonny Hammaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some good thoughts again. Actually, I'm using a JSBSim flight model, within flightgear, but interfacing it to my own autopilot inside of Simulink. I might however switch over to the Flight Gear Autopilot, and see what

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CG Location

2004-04-06 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 16:59:55 -0400 Sonny Hammaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I read somewhere, that in Flight Gear, the CG of your aircraft isn't specific to the aircraft itself, but rather related to some sort of reference. Is this true? Or did I misinterpret something? It also

Re: [Flightgear-devel] More on JSBSim ground trimming issue

2004-04-05 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 14:47:11 - Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What JSBSim does that YASim does not is if the aircraft is a little too close to the ground at initialization JSBSim hurls the thing up in the air. Why is it that only JSBSim reacts by flipping over the Cessna? What does

Re: [Flightgear-devel] More on JSBSim ground trimming issue

2004-04-05 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Tony Peden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But will we ever know why JSBSim needs to do flip over the 172? :-) Bad data. On the part of ... ? Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing

[Flightgear-devel] Lunar flight

2004-04-05 Thread Jon S Berndt
1) Is anyone aware of a database of the lunar surface exists that FlightGear could use? 2) How difficult would it be to model other planetary bodies using FlightGear (assuming the FDM had everything it needed)? Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] More on JSBSim ground trimming issue

2004-04-05 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 23:15:42 +0200 Mathias Frhlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The onground property is now ok. You can reset now JSBSim aircraft. Thanks for the fix! ?? Was it bad data? Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] More on JSBSim ground trimming issue

2004-04-05 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 23:04:16 - Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon S Berndt said: ?? Was it bad data? I think, that maybe this could be resolved by doing as Andy described earlier. In other words know where the gear is and get it above the pavement (ground elevation) before

[Flightgear-devel] What on earth ...

2004-03-31 Thread Jon S Berndt
http://www.boeing.com/news/frontiers/archive/2002/may/ts_pw.html ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

[Flightgear-devel] [OT] Application recommendations solicited

2004-03-31 Thread Jon S Berndt
Two general application / programming / automation questions: 1) Image conversion Is ayone aware of a program that does on-the-fly image conversion that will run under Cygwin from the command line? Specifically, what I am looking for is a program that will take a specified-resolution image

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Application recommendations solicited

2004-03-31 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:06:26 -0800 Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You want the ImageMagick package. It comes with an amusingly named convert program: convert MyPhoto.pcd MyPhoto.png This is best handled by the nc program (net cat), which I'm sure must be available in cygwin. Doing nc -l

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tu-154 / jsbsim beginner needs help

2004-03-26 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:02:09 +0100 (CET) Ilja Moderau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, I created my first aircraft - Tupolev 154. Screenshots: http://mitglied.lycos.de/iljamod/tu154-1.jpg http://mitglied.lycos.de/iljamod/tu154-2.jpg You can download it under:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Tu-154 / jsbsim beginner needs help

2004-03-26 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:57:34 +0100 Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Ilja Moderau -- Friday 26 March 2004 16:02: I created my first aircraft - Tupolev 154. Screenshots: http://mitglied.lycos.de/iljamod/tu154-1.jpg http://mitglied.lycos.de/iljamod/tu154-2.jpg Really beautiful! It really

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release

2004-03-26 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:13:59 +0100 Oliver C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 26 March 2004 22:05, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I have a bit of time this afternoon so I'm going to try to get the official SimGear-0.3.5 and FlightGear-0.9.4 rolled out. I plan to give the mirrors a day or two to catch

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: releases

2004-03-26 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:47:27 +0100 Oliver C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I agree with that. The pre release version 0.9.4.pre2 was released on March 23.2004. This means that there were only 3 days time for testing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:28:12 -0600 Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I'm very well aware that this is primarily Curt's project I apologize if the schedule was a bit compressed, but I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] last-minute addition

2004-03-25 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 06:56:31 -0800 Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What exactly does hangaring mean as a FDM feature? It's not exactly a tangible feature from a user perspective. It's almost sort of a minor correction in the way we do things. Right now, engines for JSBSim aircraft are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Trademark violations could be a problem

2004-03-24 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:28:48 -0600 Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: spend too much energy solving non-existant problems. If people want to create ficticioius designs, that can be fun too. Curt. That could be a lot of fun. I'm working on OlsonAir, at the moment. ;-) Jon

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFD: base package aircraft and aliases

2004-03-17 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:05:03 -0500 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a matter of fact, I'd suggest getting rid of the yasim, jsbsim, etc. in aircraft names altogether. We have only a tiny handful of aircraft (172, 310, etc.) supported by more than one FDM; in those cases, let's just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft README files

2004-03-17 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:19:36 -0500 Josh Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PropertyList include=ncc1701d-set.xml What I want to know is: where is the NCC-1701D !? :-) Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft README files

2004-03-17 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:43:28 -0500 Josh Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, they're out seeking new life forms. They'll be back in about five years. Now JSBSim *does* support warp core engines, right? sound of rapid keyboard clicking I'm workin' on it! ;-) Jon

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems building - multiplatform

2004-03-16 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:09:15 -0800 (PST) Alex Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Orthonormalize [EMAIL PROTECTED] honestly have you ever tried building this thing from scratch? Personally? Last week, on an AMD64 laptop that's running Debian's Sarge. The code downloaded and compiled from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGEngine Bug still in Flightgear cvs

2004-03-12 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:51:56 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today i updated my flightgear cvs directory and tried to rebuilt it. But there was still this bug in FGEninge.cpp: FGEngine.cpp:71: no matching function for call to `basic_stringchar, string_char_traitschar,

[Flightgear-devel] EasyXML

2004-03-11 Thread Jon S Berndt
As far as I can tell, there is no SimGear-devel list, so I'm asking this here. I'm probably going to toy with EasyXML for a C++ side project I'm working on - and if that goes well, perhaps think about using it with JSBSim as well. I am guessing that I ought to be able to grab the EasyXML

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Paraglider model

2004-03-01 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 07:46:16 -0500 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon Berndt wrote: If neither of the two (YASim and JSBSim) are appropriate for your expectations, you can code a special flight model in C within LaRCSim or perhaps set up a special model in UIUC-LaRCSim, although I am

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBsim fails to build in FGFS cvs

2004-02-20 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:08:26 -0800 (PST) Gopal Mor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The error messages obtained during compilation are as follow FGEngine.cpp:71: no matching function for call to `basic_stringchar, string_char_traitschar, __default_alloc_templatetrue, 0 ::clear ()' I think I have seen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Baby

2004-02-18 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:55:40 -0600 Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, quick announcement ... baby! Amelia Esther, 8lbs 1oz, born 6:12am this morning, less than 1 hour from first contraction to delivery. 12 minutes from arrival at the hospital to delivery. Everyone is doing good.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 07:07:05 -0800 Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding the VRP is yet another mechanism, basically a direct analog of the view offset stuff on the FDM side. I just don't see the need. If we decide the VRP is the right way to do it, we should chuck the view offset stuff for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] XML SCripting

2004-02-13 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:15:19 -0600 Cameron Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, Microsoft filed their patent on Dec. 1, 2000. The CVS entry you reference was from Apr. 6, 2001. Can you beat the December date? -- Cameron Moore Probably. Jon ___

[Flightgear-devel] NASA Open Source Licensing

2004-02-13 Thread Jon S Berndt
An interesting article: http://news.osdir.com/article448.html Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 13:09:30 -0700 Russell Suter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So then the pilot's eyepoint is relative to the dynamic CG? I guess I just assumed JSBSim reported a position from a fixed point on the aircraft. Ack! Would your VRP then become the point from which the pilot's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:53:45 -0700 Russell Suter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The VRP is a **solid** point of reference. Yes, that is most likely different for each aircraft, No? Maybe I've missed something here but as I understand it, the VRP is an attempt to define a fixed point of reference in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 20:30:35 - Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon, I forget, what exactly is the reason for defining a VRP in the config file? I thought that JSBSim already knew where the nose was. We normally track: - Initial empty weight CG - Dynamic CG (includes fuel burnoff) -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 20:30:35 - Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon, I forget, what exactly is the reason for defining a VRP in the config file? I thought that JSBSim already knew where the nose was. Also, Jim: will the view code be able to place a 3D model correctly no matter what the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 21:25:42 - Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon S Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: We normally track: - Initial empty weight CG - Dynamic CG (includes fuel burnoff) - landing gear ground contact points - scrape points - pilot eyepoint (for calculating pilot accels

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 14:33:43 -0700 Russell Suter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I strongly agree that JSBSim reporting a fixed point relative to the aircraft is good, I'm not particularly thrilled with the point you have chosen. I am more than happy to agree to disagree on that one though.

[Flightgear-devel] Eye candy

2004-02-13 Thread Jon S Berndt
Any chance of modeling wingtip vortices (when CL is high enough above some threshhold) and rocket engine exhaust? :-) Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Eye candy

2004-02-13 Thread Jon S Berndt
materiel and then use nasal to turn it on and off. You can even make it get bigger and smaller with the animations. Don't know how to do the smoke though. Also, those little clouds that form over the wings at high lift would be cool too. Josh Jon S Berndt wrote: Any chance of modeling wingtip

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:52:12 -0700 Russell Suter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Jon, I think you already know the answer to that question. The You probably answered that several times, but I didn't catch it in your email. way you phrase it though implies that I somehow believe that the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-02-12 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:50:48 - Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You actually want to be very exact about matching the model to the FDM origin. ... Jim (or someone ... *anyone*): Could you summarize the argument taking place here? I seem to only be getting parts of it - I guess I didn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-12 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:09:15 -0500 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, given that the aerodynamic centre of an aircraft can shift based on loading and flight conditions, how can we report that from the FDM back to the 3D model code? Is this something people worked out in a previous

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-12 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:35:59 -0500 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon S Berndt wrote: I'm not sure I see how this helps -- the model code still doesn't know where the CG is, so it still doesn't know where the centre of rotation for the model should be. This is precisely *why

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-12 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 21:19:25 - Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon S Berndt tells us First, the aircraft - like any body - rotates about its CG (according to the EOM) - not usually the same as the AC. So put the (visual) model origin at or near the CofG - what's the problem? Seems

[Flightgear-devel] RAM disk / Unix

2004-02-10 Thread Jon S Berndt
Is anyone aware of a RAM disk utility or feature under Unix (specifically, IRIX)? When running a simulation on IRIX we are finding that the disk access is taking too much time at various phase boundaries. It is thought that the use of a RAM disk might help. Jon

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RAM disk / Unix

2004-02-10 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 15:06:41 -0800 Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Norman Vine wrote: Jon S. Berndt wrote: It is thought that the use of a RAM disk might help. On Windows I have found that increading disk cache size and / or using memory mapped files is more productive then a DAM disk My

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Book recommendations sought

2004-02-04 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 09:39:16 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerhard Wesp) wrote: Hello, I'm looking for good resources on flight simulations. For the aerodynamics and flight dynamics it seems that Stevens, Aircraft Control and Simulation, is (one of) the standard references. Things which Stevens

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New Autopilot Documentation

2004-02-04 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:39:23 - Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curt fixed that today. It even works pretty well with the 747. With the one he commited, the gain is higher than what you have (Kp=1.0), a little longer intergration period (Ti=25.0) and the derivator is way down to almost

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