[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/releases In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv13253 Added Files: FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz Log Message: Official 0.9.4 release. Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I'm very well aware that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I'm very well aware that this is primarily Curt's project but on the other hand these surprisingly short pre-release stages make it very hard for peripheral efforts to keep up with the release

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Oliver C.
On Friday 26 March 2004 23:35, Martin Spott wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/releases In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv13253 Added Files: FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz Log Message: Official 0.9.4 release. Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Oliver C.
On Friday 26 March 2004 23:43, Erik Hofman wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I'm very well aware that this is primarily Curt's project but on the other hand these surprisingly short pre-release stages make it very

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I'm very well aware that this is primarily Curt's project but on the other hand these surprisingly short pre-release stages make it very hard for peripheral efforts to keep up with the release

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:28:12 -0600 Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I'm very well aware that this is primarily Curt's project I apologize if the schedule was a bit compressed, but I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon S Berndt wrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:28:12 -0600 Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I'm very well aware that this is primarily Curt's project I apologize if the schedule was a bit

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Jim Wilson
Martin Spott said: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/releases In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv13253 Added Files: FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz Log Message: Official 0.9.4 release. Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-03-25 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: - texturing (no idea which livree; certainly not ADAC ;-) I'd give a strong vote for something civilian, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-25 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson said: Jim Wilson wrote: How about this one? ;-) http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/barneymobile.png Is that the don't-ask-don't-tellicopter. Haha! Is this what they call aviation innuendo? What about these folks: http://www.harrierpilot.com/oct01/purple.jpg They

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-25 Thread Vivian Meazza
Jim Wilson Curtis L. Olson said: Jim Wilson wrote: How about this one? ;-) http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/barneymobile.png Is that the don't-ask-don't-tellicopter. Haha! Is this what they call aviation innuendo? What about these folks:

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-25 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jim Wilson -- Thursday 25 March 2004 01:54: How about this one? ;-) http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/barneymobile.png That's a nice color, indeed. But it doesn't really go well with the Red Cross. I added it, because the long version of the Bo was constructed for use as rescue helicopter. The

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-24 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/bo105/Models In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv17582/Models Modified Files: bo105.ac bo105.xml shadow.rgb Log Message: New updates from Melchior in the color of the day. Ooooh, I found the yellow one definitely nicer,

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-24 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Wednesday 24 March 2004 16:40: Ooooh, I found the yellow one definitely nicer, it was a cute, coloured spot in the colloection of mostly uniform coloured aircraft, Hmm ... but the current one fits the seats better, doesn't it? m.

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-24 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Wednesday 24 March 2004 16:40: Ooooh, I found the yellow one definitely nicer, it was a cute, coloured spot in the colloection of mostly uniform coloured aircraft, Oh, well. Actually I like both versions. I just think that the yellow one got a bit boring already, and that the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-24 Thread Jim Wilson
Melchior FRANZ said: * Martin Spott -- Wednesday 24 March 2004 16:40: Ooooh, I found the yellow one definitely nicer, it was a cute, coloured spot in the colloection of mostly uniform coloured aircraft, Oh, well. Actually I like both versions. I just think that the yellow one got a bit

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson wrote: How about this one? ;-) http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/barneymobile.png Is that the don't-ask-don't-tellicopter. Curt. -- Curtis Olson Intelligent Vehicles Lab FlightGear Project Twin Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minnesota

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:52:57 -0600, Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jim Wilson wrote: How about this one? ;-) http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/barneymobile.png Is that the don't-ask-don't-tellicopter. ..using these names sounds like neat nice

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-03-23 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Please feel free to forward the announcement to freshmeat. I assume someone has to have a user account at freshmeat, the Project Admin for FlightGear on freshmeat is - you guess it - Curt Olson :-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-03-23 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Please feel free to forward the announcement to freshmeat. I assume someone has to have a user account at freshmeat, the Project Admin for FlightGear on freshmeat is - you guess it - Curt Olson :-) Martin. Hmmm, I haven't touched anything at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-03-23 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Hmmm, I haven't touched anything at fresh meat for years, would anyone be willing to take this over? How have recent updates been getting in there? There must be some person 'owning' the account for the FlightGear project page on freshmeat. The last update was for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-03-22 Thread Mathias Frhlich
Hi, On Montag, 22. Mrz 2004 12:53, Martin Spott wrote: Jim Wilson wrote: Martin Spott said: I'm sorry to say this but I can't resist to note that some of the changes in your patch reverted David's the PA-28 rotates around it's nose corrections. I'm not aware of any difference of

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161 pa28-161-set.xml,

2004-03-22 Thread Martin Spott
Jim Wilson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/pa28-161 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv21723 Modified Files: pa28-161-set.xml Log Message: Missed one. Thanks, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/utils/Modeller Makefile.am, 1.2,

2004-03-22 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/utils/Modeller In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv24024/utils/Modeller Modified Files: Makefile.am Log Message: Various final tweaks for the 0.9.4.pre1 release. I appreciate very much having this pre-release

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/utils/Modeller Makefile.am, 1.2,

2004-03-22 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: Hello, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/utils/Modeller In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv24024/utils/Modeller Modified Files: Makefile.am Log Message: Various final tweaks for the 0.9.4.pre1 release. I appreciate very much having

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Scenery/w130n30/w123n37 942050.stg, 1.11, 1.12

2004-03-21 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Scenery/w130n30/w123n37 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv5777 Modified Files: 942050.stg Log Message: Put a sock in it. Index: 942050.stg === RCS file:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Scenery/w130n30/w123n37 942050.stg, 1.11, 1.12

2004-03-21 Thread Erik Hofman
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Scenery/w130n30/w123n37 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv5777 Modified Files: 942050.stg Log Message: Put a sock in it. Index: 942050.stg === RCS file:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/YASim YASim.cxx, 1.20, 1.21

2004-03-20 Thread Jim Wilson
Martin Spott said: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/FDM/YASim In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv14214/src/FDM/YASim Modified Files: YASim.cxx Log Message: Jim Wilson: Remove some hardcoded dependencies between fdm, viewer and acmodel

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/YASim YASim.cxx, 1.20, 1.21

2004-03-19 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/FDM/YASim In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv14214/src/FDM/YASim Modified Files: YASim.cxx Log Message: Jim Wilson: Remove some hardcoded dependencies between fdm, viewer and acmodel classes and replaced them with

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/f16 f16-3d-set.xml, 1.1,

2004-03-18 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/f16 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv29648/f16 Modified Files: f16-3d-set.xml f16-set.xml Removed Files: f16-3d-jsbsim-set.xml f16-jsbsim-set.xml Log Message: [...] You should also modify this one: isnix:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/f16 f16-3d-set.xml, 1.1,

2004-03-18 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: You should also modify this one: PropertyList include=f16-jsbsim-set.xml ^^ This is no longer present, Thanks for catching this. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/UIUCModel uiuc_auto_pilot.cpp, NONE, 1.1 uiuc_auto_pilot.h, NONE, 1.1 uiuc_hh_ap.cpp, NONE, 1.1 uiuc_hh_ap.h, NONE, 1.1 uiuc_rah_ap.cpp, NONE, 1.1 uiuc_rah_ap.h, NONE, 1.1 Makefile.am, 1.3, 1.4 uiuc_aerodeflections.cpp, 1.4, 1.5 uiuc_aircraft.h, 1.9, 1.10 uiuc_alh_ap.cpp, 1.1, 1.2 uiuc_alh_ap.h, 1.1, 1.2 uiuc_coef_lift.cpp, 1.3, 1.4 uiuc_coefficients.cpp, 1.6, 1.7 uiuc_coefficients.h, 1.3, 1.4 uiuc_icing_demo.cpp, 1.1, 1.2 uiuc_map_controlSurface.cpp, 1.3, 1.4 uiuc_map_ice.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_map_init.cpp, 1.4, 1.5 uiuc_map_misc.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_map_record1.cpp, 1.1.1.1, 1.2 uiuc_map_record3.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_map_record5.cpp, 1.3, 1.4 uiuc_map_record6.cpp, 1.3, 1.4 uiuc_menu_CL.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_menu_controlSurface.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_menu_ice.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_menu_init.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_menu_misc.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_pah_ap.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_recorder.cpp, 1.8, 1.9 uiuc_wrapper.cpp, 1.12, 1.13

2004-03-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/FDM/UIUCModel In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv19850/UIUCModel Hehe, just when you thought it was a while back you heard from the UIUC developers someone comes running out of their shelter just to throw a bunch of new code at you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 20:07:10 -0500, David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was this in PLIB 1.6, again? The alpha transparency is fine using the CVS plib. I'm pretty sure it was CVS plib. -- Roy Vegard Ovesen ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread David Megginson
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Was this in PLIB 1.6, again? The alpha transparency is fine using the CVS I am using the CVS plib and I am seeing this bug. That's interesting -- is anyone else seeing this problem? All the best, David ___ Flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: Frederic Bouvier wrote: Was this in PLIB 1.6, again? The alpha transparency is fine using the CVS I am using the CVS plib and I am seeing this bug. That's interesting -- is anyone else seeing this problem? No, not for IRIX, not for Linux. Erik

[Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
David Megginson wrote: Frederic Bouvier wrote: Was this in PLIB 1.6, again? The alpha transparency is fine using the CVS I am using the CVS plib and I am seeing this bug. That's interesting -- is anyone else seeing this problem? I don't know for the original bug reporter, but I am

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread David Megginson
Frederic BOUVIER wrote: I don't know for the original bug reporter, but I am using Windows and NVIDIA if it is of any importance. That could matter -- I'm using Linux and NVIDIA. Do you have trouble with transparencies anywhere else? Do other people using Windows and NVIDIA see a white

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* David Megginson -- Friday 12 March 2004 15:29: That's interesting -- is anyone else seeing this problem? All needles are OK. The only bug that I see is the non-transparent attitude 'needle': http://members.aon.at/mfranz/pa28.jpg The SGI image seems to be OK, though (and I'm an SGI image expert

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
David Megginson wrote: Frederic BOUVIER wrote: I don't know for the original bug reporter, but I am using Windows and NVIDIA if it is of any importance. That could matter -- I'm using Linux and NVIDIA. Do you have trouble with transparencies anywhere else? Do other people using

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread David Megginson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: All needles are OK. The only bug that I see is the non-transparent attitude 'needle': http://members.aon.at/mfranz/pa28.jpg Yes -- I have that problem as well -- it has something to do with drawing order. All the best, David ___

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Friday 12 March 2004 15:59: All needles are OK. The only bug that I see is the non-transparent attitude 'needle': http://members.aon.at/mfranz/pa28.jpg The SGI image seems to be OK, though (and I'm an SGI image expert :-). I'll look into plib ... Yep, looks very much like

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* David Megginson -- Friday 12 March 2004 16:21: All needles are OK. The only bug that I see is the non-transparent attitude 'needle': http://members.aon.at/mfranz/pa28.jpg Yes -- I have that problem as well -- it has something to do with drawing order. No. plib has a bug: it doesn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
David Megginson wrote : Melchior FRANZ wrote: All needles are OK. The only bug that I see is the non-transparent attitude 'needle': http://members.aon.at/mfranz/pa28.jpg Yes -- I have that problem as well -- it has something to do with drawing order. I am confused. We were speaking

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Melchior FRANZ -- Friday 12 March 2004 15:59: All needles are OK. The only bug that I see is the non-transparent attitude 'needle': http://members.aon.at/mfranz/pa28.jpg The SGI image seems to be OK, though (and I'm an SGI image expert :-). I'll look into plib ... Yep,

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Frederic BOUVIER -- Friday 12 March 2004 16:24: I guess Melchior use Linux and he post a screenshot of what I am seeing. plib bug. I'm working on a fix. m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:03:00 -0500, David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederic BOUVIER wrote: I don't know for the original bug reporter, but I am using Windows and NVIDIA if it is of any importance. That could matter -- I'm using Linux and NVIDIA. Do you have trouble with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread David Megginson
Frederic BOUVIER wrote: Another thing that I noticed about the pa28 panel was the plane in the TC was not transparent where it should be. The rgb file did have an alpha channel but because the file was only 256 colors the alpha channel was not transparent in FlightGear. It was OK when I opened it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-12 Thread David Megginson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: No. plib has a bug: it doesn't recognize grayscale images with alpha layer yet. See ssgLoadSGI.cxx:301, where the alpha information is wrongly written to the blue layer, while the alpha layer is disabled. :-] Ah -- that explains what's going on here. I had thought that the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/sgs126/Panels

2004-03-12 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/sgs126/Panels In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv22201/Panels Modified Files: glider-panel.xml Log Message: David Culp: Here are two files for the sgs126. The sgs126-jsbsim-set.xml file now starts the glider in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/sgs126/Panels

2004-03-12 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Here are two files for the sgs126. The sgs126-jsbsim-set.xml file now starts the glider in the air by default. I think some people didn't know it is a glider, [...] I assume we already have two of them: The ASW-20 and the SGS 126 - don't we ? Yes, but

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv6690/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models Modified Files: pa28-161.ac panel.rgb Added Files: bench-back.rgb glareshield.rgb Log Message: Added textures for the back

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott wrote: This aircraft gets really nice. Thanks. The big breakthrough was my finally learning to use Blender to make the textures (such as the panel plastics and screws) as well as the geometry -- using a good 3D modeller with a bit of lighting can make even a ham-fisted dolt like

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-03-11 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: Yes: I haven't set the UV explicitly for all the faces yet, so there are some weird default texture patterns in places -- I'm working through the plane a little bit at a time so that the task isn't too daunting, but I've already switched to it as my default aircraft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread David Luff
Martin Spott writes: David Megginson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv6690/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models Modified Files: pa28-161.ac panel.rgb Added Files: bench-back.rgb glareshield.rgb Log Message:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread David Megginson
David Luff wrote: I'll second that - it really is good. It looks really good, and at high resolutions the frame rate is much better than the default - I've seen 60 (pa28) vs. 30 (c172) at some locations and resolutions. The old (2D) panel code seemed to be the real killer, since I'm using much

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-03-11 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott wrote: As the next step you probably might want to sell your Warrior in favour of an Archer :-)) In retrospect, I wish I'd bought an Archer, since the cost of ownership is virtually identical, but there's a bit more power and useful load when you need it. On balance, though

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2004-03-11 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: Most of our training aircraft are already at least minimally IFR equipped (mode C transponder, gyros, nav radio, VOR) -- typically, though, students move up to a four-seater for IFR training since it's a little more stable. We don't have two-seaters with gyros at our

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:10:30 +, David Luff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One bug though - I don't see the instrument needles under Linux with an NVidia card. I thought you simply hadn't done them, until I saw them under Cygwin with an ATI card. I see the large tilting plane in the turn

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread Jon Stockill
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, David Megginson wrote: I used geometry for the needles, and they must just be too narrow to show up. It's strange, because I also use Linux+NVIDIA (GeForce2Go), and the needles do show up on my system at 1600x1200. In any case, I'll be switching to bigger quads with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread David Megginson
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: I too, experienced this, no needles in the instruments. I use a NVidia card under Cygwin. After installing the cvs version of plib, the needles appeared (I used to have plib 1.6.0). Ah, yes -- the last official PLIB version has a bug (I can hardly consider it a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161/Models

2004-03-11 Thread Frederic Bouvier
David Megginson wrote: Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: Another thing that I noticed about the pa28 panel was the plane in the TC was not transparent where it should be. The rgb file did have an alpha channel but because the file was only 256 colors the alpha channel was not transparent in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.86,

2004-02-28 Thread Jorge Van Hemelryck
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:37:48 +0100 (CET) Frederic BOUVIER wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: David Megginson wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Great idea - unfortunately 'fgfs' now dies with a segmentation fault just a split second after the FlightGear window appears (Linux), Yes, I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.86,

2004-02-28 Thread Jorge Van Hemelryck
It's fixed in CVS now... Thanks ! -- Jorge Van Hemelryck ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread David Megginson
Erik Hofman wrote: Modified Files: radar_misc.rgb Log Message: Add support for a storm blib Excellent. As far as I know, civilian airliners carry radar that is capable only of detecting weather, not small things like aircraft. They also use a separate radar system for ground separation (the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Modified Files: radar_misc.rgb Log Message: Add support for a storm blib Excellent. As far as I know, civilian airliners carry radar that is capable only of detecting weather, not small things like aircraft. They also use a separate radar system

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread David Megginson
Erik Hofman wrote: I know that in Europe they recently added a requirement for collision detection after two civilian aircraft hit each other when the ATC had given inappropriate directions. Is that a requirement for TCAS, or for something else in addition to TCAS? The copilot on one of those

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: I know that in Europe they recently added a requirement for collision detection after two civilian aircraft hit each other when the ATC had given inappropriate directions. Is that a requirement for TCAS, or for something else in addition to TCAS?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Freitag, 27. Februar 2004 15:40, David Megginson wrote: That said, I'm sorry to hear that the Swiss controller died. Was it in any way related to the accident? It was not clear up to the yesterday evening news. Have not seen/heared news from today. Greetings Mathias -- Mathias

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread Josh Babcock
Erik Hofman wrote: David Megginson wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: I know that in Europe they recently added a requirement for collision detection after two civilian aircraft hit each other when the ATC had given inappropriate directions. Is that a requirement for TCAS, or for something else in

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.86,

2004-02-27 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/Main In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv25641/src/Main Modified Files: fg_init.cxx main.cxx Log Message: Add the aircraft model, model manager, view manager, and scenery manager to the standard subsystem collection

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.86,

2004-02-27 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott wrote: Great idea - unfortunately 'fgfs' now dies with a segmentation fault just a split second after the FlightGear window appears (Linux), Yes, I was using the wrong executable to test it. Give me about an hour, and I'll revert if I cannot fix the problem. All the best, David

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.86,

2004-02-27 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Great idea - unfortunately 'fgfs' now dies with a segmentation fault just a split second after the FlightGear window appears (Linux), Yes, I was using the wrong executable to test it. Give me about an hour, and I'll revert if I cannot fix the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main

2004-02-27 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Great idea - unfortunately 'fgfs' now dies with a segmentation fault just a split second after the FlightGear window appears (Linux), Yes, I was using the wrong executable to test it. Give me about an hour, and I'll revert if I cannot fix the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.86,

2004-02-27 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
Erik Hofman wrote: David Megginson wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Great idea - unfortunately 'fgfs' now dies with a segmentation fault just a split second after the FlightGear window appears (Linux), Yes, I was using the wrong executable to test it. Give me about an hour, and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main

2004-02-27 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott wrote: The idea is good - don't dump it, Thanks, but it's going to be too much work for now -- there are some bizarre interdependencies. For example, FGInterface, the FDM base class that should know nothing about 3D models, pokes around inside the aircraft model when the FDM is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main

2004-02-27 Thread David Luff
On 2/27/04 at 11:56 AM David Megginson wrote: The way to fix all this is to decouple the subsystems using properties so that there is no init-order dependency (and no need for unrelated subsystems to know about other subsystems' internals), but I see at least 4-8 hours' work sorting out the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main

2004-02-27 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Luff wrote: Whilst on the subject of initialisation order, currently the tile manager gets initialised before an initial position is set. This means that it loads a set of tiles centered on lat/lon of 0,0, and then loads a set of tiles at the correct location. In conditions of limited

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main

2004-02-27 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson said: David Luff wrote: Whilst on the subject of initialisation order, currently the tile manager gets initialised before an initial position is set. This means that it loads a set of tiles centered on lat/lon of 0,0, and then loads a set of tiles at the correct

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main

2004-02-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 11:25:00 -0600, Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David Luff wrote: Whilst on the subject of initialisation order, currently the tile manager gets initialised before an initial position is set. This means that it loads a set of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Instruments/Textures radar_misc.rgb, 1.1, 1.2

2004-02-27 Thread Lee Elliott
On Friday 27 February 2004 14:02, David Megginson wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Modified Files: radar_misc.rgb Log Message: Add support for a storm blib Excellent. As far as I know, civilian airliners carry radar that is capable only of detecting weather, not small things like

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main

2004-02-27 Thread Lee Elliott
On Friday 27 February 2004 17:25, Curtis L. Olson wrote: David Luff wrote: Whilst on the subject of initialisation order, currently the tile manager gets initialised before an initial position is set. This means that it loads a set of tiles centered on lat/lon of 0,0, and then loads a set

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Environment

2004-02-26 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Environment In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv510 Modified Files: environment_ctrl.cxx environment_ctrl.hxx Log Message: Add support for a proxy server when retreiving metar data. Index: environment_ctrl.cxx

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Environment

2004-02-26 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Thursday 26 February 2004 12:45: I thank you very much for implementing real weather and proxy support. This is really a great improvement ! I'm quite happy about it, too. It really gives a special feeling to start from ULLI with the real, actual weather from there, or to fly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Environment

2004-02-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Martin Spott -- Thursday 26 February 2004 12:45: I thank you very much for implementing real weather and proxy support. This is really a great improvement ! I'm quite happy about it, too. It really gives a special feeling to start from ULLI with the real, actual weather

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main options.cxx, 1.51,

2004-02-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Add an option to define the proxy settings (used by metar data fetching only at this time). Usage: --proxy=user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:port The notation works for me - as long as I don't have to use proxy authorization. Thanks, If authentication support is

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Environment

2004-02-26 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/Environment In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv19928 Modified Files: environment_ctrl.cxx environment_ctrl.hxx Log Message: For weather fetching from the noaa.gov site: If the closest station hasn't changed, wait 15

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Environment

2004-02-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: Very wise :-) I'd be a bit concerned that NOAA might close their service if they realize an increasing amount of requests from the same host for the same airfield within a too short timeframe. Wouldn't it make sense to evaluate the timestamp of each dataset and delay the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main options.cxx, 1.51,

2004-02-26 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Main In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv14944 Modified Files: options.cxx Log Message: Add an option to define the proxy settings (used by metar data fetching only at this time). Usage: --proxy=user:[EMAIL

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Environment

2004-02-26 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Thursday 26 February 2004 12:59: Airport-Id: EFHK Report time:2004/2/26 11:20 UTC 3.5 km W2.2 US-miles W Wind: from the SSE (160°) at 24.1 km/h13 kt = 15 mph = 6.7

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airports metar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson wrote: A simple list of id's of metar stations. We can use this list to mark which airports have corresponding metar data so we don't flood the noaa site with bogus queries. It might be a good idea actually to add lat/lon/elev of each station to the list, and to use it instead

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airports metar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: A simple list of id's of metar stations. We can use this list to mark which airports have corresponding metar data so we don't flood the noaa site with bogus queries. It might be a good idea actually to add lat/lon/elev of each station to the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airportsmetar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L. Olson writes: David Megginson wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: A simple list of id's of metar stations. We can use this list to mark which airports have corresponding metar data so we don't flood the noaa site with bogus queries. It might be a good idea actually to

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airports metar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 23 February 2004 18:27: There are definitely many weather stations not colocated with airports (or at least that don't have corresponding airports in our database.) Ahh, yes. And my assumption that only four letter ids is apparently wrong. There are stations with

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airports metar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 23 February 2004 18:27: Any one know where we can get current and definitive information? Here is a list of weather stations with ICAO ids. But it's not obvious if all of these do also provide metar reports: http://weather.noaa.gov/data/nsd_.gz m.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airportsmetar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Norman Vine
Melchior FRANZ writes: * Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 23 February 2004 18:27: Any one know where we can get current and definitive information? Here is a list of weather stations with ICAO ids. But it's not obvious if all of these do also provide metar reports:

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Airportsmetar.dat.gz, NONE, 1.1

2004-02-23 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Norman Vine -- Monday 23 February 2004 20:55: Melchior FRANZ writes: http://weather.noaa.gov/data/nsd_.gz AFAIK this is same as the link I posted earlier with a different sorting Oh, yes. Missed that, sorry. Seems that 'mine' is sorted by ICAO codes, and 'yours' by ... umm ... by

RE: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS:data/Aircraft/pa28-161

2004-02-13 Thread Vivian Meazza
Jim Wilson wrote Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Josh Babcock Vivian Meazza wrote: I enter the loop in a shallow dive, 2nd stage boost on, 350 kts, pull baaack the stick and the model rolls violently and does not enter the loop ... Works fine in

Re: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS:data/Aircraft/pa28-161

2004-02-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Friday 13 February 2004 13:19: Could the prop pitch be the problem Unlikely -- it's already maximum by default. - I can't find any method of controlling it Either via http/telnet/property browser: /controls/engines/engine[n]/propeller-pitch Some joystick configs

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/pa28-161

2004-02-12 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/pa28-161 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv12589 Modified Files: pa28-161-yasim-set.xml Log Message: Change camera position so that model doesn't rotate around the nose. I can't withstand the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data/Aircraft/pa28-161

2004-02-12 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin wrote: David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/pa28-161 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv12589 Modified Files: pa28-161-yasim-set.xml Log Message: Change camera position so that model doesn't rotate around the nose.

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