[Flightgear-devel] DOS line endings in base package

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
Mathias Froehlich has been so kind to create a patch against the base package that is aimed to fix some bugs that were triggered by the recent performance-improving patches to PLIB and/or SimGear. His patch is available here: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/shading-update.diff.gz

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: crease for ac3d files and speedup

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
Simon Hollier wrote: If you want to spend your time hacking your system for the sake of DRI/X.org CVS...ATI is your choice! If you want to be up and running in 20 minutes without hassle and are willing to use closed source drivers...NVidia is your choice! Please let me rephrase because

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releasesFlightGear-0.9.6.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-10-13 Thread Vivian Meazza
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Sent: 12 October 2004 18:12 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releasesFlightGear-0.9.6.tar.gz, NONE, Martin Spott wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/releases

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
Vivian Meazza wrote: I've just downloaded and installed fgfs-0.9.6-20041010 from ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/. It crashes, cause unknown. However, fgfs-0.9.6-20041009 works very well, using all the same settings, etc. To my impression there's already a 'release' package:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: To my impression there's already a 'release' package: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/fgfs-0.9.6-win32.zip Would you mind to try that one ? Did that myself and I can affirm that it works marvellous for me - with the current CVS base package, Martin. --

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releasesFlightGear-0.9.6.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-10-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Vivian Meazza wrote: Frederic Bouvier wrote: Sent: 12 October 2004 18:12 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releasesFlightGear-0.9.6.tar.gz, NONE, Martin Spott wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Martin Spott wrote: Martin Spott wrote: To my impression there's already a 'release' package: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/fgfs-0.9.6-win32.zip Would you mind to try that one ? Did that myself and I can affirm that it works marvellous for me - with the current CVS

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: crease for ac3d files and speedup

2004-10-13 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I have just downloaded 0.9.6. I thought there is supposed to be an increase of frame rate? I'm still seeing 2fps/3fps for the 747's, and an average of 6fps for other aircrafts. Ampere Command used: /usr/local/FlightGear/bin/fgfs Parameters: no parameters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lspci ...

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DOS line endings in base package

2004-10-13 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Speaking of the Base Package, I see that the Aircraft directory alone used up 123.9MB. Perhaps it will be a good idea to only include the C172, and allow the user to download the other aircrafts seperately? This may encourage new users to try out FlightGear without having to deal with a 78MB

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Did that myself and I can affirm that it works marvellous for me - with the current CVS base package, Maybe we could report success or failure with the name of the card and related info. There could be a limitation on the number of possible

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DOS line endings in base package

2004-10-13 Thread Erik Hofman
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Speaking of the Base Package, I see that the Aircraft directory alone used up 123.9MB. Perhaps it will be a good idea to only include the C172, and allow the user to download the other aircrafts seperately? This may encourage new users to try out FlightGear without

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: crease for ac3d files and speedup

2004-10-13 Thread Erik Hofman
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: I have just downloaded 0.9.6. I thought there is supposed to be an increase of frame rate? I'm still seeing 2fps/3fps for the 747's, and an average of 6fps for other aircrafts. Display lists are not a one thing solves all solution. Probably you have other limiting

[Flightgear-devel] ANN: FGBenchmark-0.0.4

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
I placed a new FGBenchmark package, made from the FlightGear-0.9.6 sources, at the 'usual' place (66,5 MByte): ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/FGBenchmark-0.0.4.tar.gz README is here: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/FGBenchmark.README It would be nice to hear if it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 0.9.6

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
Jon Stockill wrote: The Slackware 10.0 package is now available. It should also work on Slackware 9.1 systems. Solaris/Sparc binary package ist present at: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Solaris/fgfs-0.9.6-Solaris.tar.gz Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott wrote: Sent: 13 October 2004 09:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: Vivian Meazza wrote: I've just downloaded and installed fgfs-0.9.6-20041010 from ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/. It crashes, cause

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Vivian Meazza wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Sent: 13 October 2004 09:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: Vivian Meazza wrote: I've just downloaded and installed fgfs-0.9.6-20041010 from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: crease for ac3d files and speedup

2004-10-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: I have just downloaded 0.9.6. I thought there is supposed to be an increase of frame rate? I'm still seeing 2fps/3fps for the 747's, and an average of 6fps for other aircrafts. Ampere Command used: /usr/local/FlightGear/bin/fgfs Parameters: no parameters

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: crease for ac3d files and speedup

2004-10-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:44:36 +0200, Frederic wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: I have just downloaded 0.9.6. I thought there is supposed to be an increase of frame rate? I'm still seeing 2fps/3fps for the 747's, and an average of 6fps for other aircrafts.

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] compiling terragear: problem with gpc

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
acrux wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ports/gpc/gpc231# gcc gpc.c -o gpc /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/../../../crt1.o(.text+0x18): In function `_start':: undefined reference to `main' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Here's a Makefile: snip

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] compiling terragear: problem with gpc

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
acrux wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 16:15:10 +0200 Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ar cru libgpc.a gpc.o [...] ^^ g++ -O3 -march=athlon-xp -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o e00lines main.o ../../../src/Lib/Polygon/libPolygon.a

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-announce] FlightGear v0.9.6

2004-10-13 Thread Erik Hofman
The IRIX binary package can be downloaded at the usual place now: http://www.1stweb.nl/~ehofman/fgfs Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Harald JOHNSEN
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Vivian Meazza wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Sent: 13 October 2004 09:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: Vivian Meazza wrote: I've just downloaded and installed fgfs-0.9.6-20041010 from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 0.9.6

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: Solaris/Sparc binary package ist present at: Disregard, here's the installable package, use with 'pkgadd': ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Solaris/fgfs-0.9.6-sol8-sparc-opt.gz README included, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about

[Flightgear-devel] Prebuilt v0.9.6 packages

2004-10-13 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I've updated the download page for all the latest v0.9.6 builds that I'm aware of. I have updates for Windows, sgi, solaris(sparc), and gnu debian linux. Some of the other linux distributions have fallen way behind ... suse, gentoo, etc. Macintosh is way behind unless I missed an update.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-10-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Harald JOHNSEN a écrit : the 'release' binary of fgfs does not launch, it calls MSVCR71D.DLL (not on my system). Sorry about that. A corrected package is here : ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/fgfs-0.9.6-win32-2.zip The other one is delete Thanks for the report that fortunately

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: crease for ac3d files and speedup

2004-10-13 Thread Mathias Frhlich
On Mittwoch 13 Oktober 2004 04:25, Simon Hollier wrote: Well, I wish that were the case. Simgear/Flightgear/Plib fresh cvs as of 20 minutes ago (just to be sure). I'm running XFree86 4.4RC2,2.6.5-7 as per Suse 9.1 which might be the difference. But as everything just works right now...I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Prebuilt v0.9.6 packages

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Some of the other linux distributions have fallen way behind ... suse, gentoo, etc. We didn't have any SuSE-packages for looong time. I do have binaries but I don't have any idea how to create RPM packages - I just learned today how to create packages for Solaris and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: crease for ac3d files and speedup

2004-10-13 Thread Simon Hollier
On Wednesday 13 October 2004 15:30, Mathias Frhlich wrote: On Mittwoch 13 Oktober 2004 04:25, Simon Hollier wrote: Well, I wish that were the case. Simgear/Flightgear/Plib fresh cvs as of 20 minutes ago (just to be sure). I'm running XFree86 4.4RC2,2.6.5-7 as per Suse 9.1 which might be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: crease for ac3d files and speedup

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
Simon Hollier wrote: My guess is that display lists are stored in the graphics cards memory which is not that big with 32MB. That leads to graphics memory allocated via agp in main memory. These accesses seem to be much slower. The dri driver might be screwed up too??? I'm fairly sure

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: crease for ac3d files and speedup

2004-10-13 Thread Simon Hollier
On Wednesday 13 October 2004 16:51, Martin Spott wrote: Simon Hollier wrote: My guess is that display lists are stored in the graphics cards memory which is not that big with 32MB. That leads to graphics memory allocated via agp in main memory. These accesses seem to be much slower.

[Flightgear-devel] Re: crease for ac3d files and speedup

2004-10-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Mathias Fröhlich -- Wednesday 13 October 2004 21:30: My guess is that display lists are stored in the graphics cards memory which is not that big with 32MB. That leads to graphics memory allocated via agp in main memory. These accesses seem to be much slower. The dri driver might be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: crease for ac3d files and speedup

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
Simon Hollier wrote: I'm not whining, [...] You were starting your argument by blaming the DRI drivers for the Radeon9200. This is fact - read your own posting. In the same posting you state that the machine swaps quite a lot but you refuse to investigate if this might be related. On the other

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: crease for ac3d files and speedup

2004-10-13 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Mathias Fröhlich -- Wednesday 13 October 2004 21:30: My guess is that display lists are stored in the graphics cards memory which is not that big with 32MB. That leads to graphics memory allocated via agp in main memory. These accesses seem to be much slower. The dri

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: crease for ac3d files and speedup

2004-10-13 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L. Olson writes: I haven't looked closely at the display list stuff. Are we being careful to free the display lists when we free the associated objects and remove them from the scene graph? Is this something that plib should automatically handle (but maybe isn't because we are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: crease for ac3d files and speedup

2004-10-13 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Norman Vine wrote: Curtis L. Olson writes: I haven't looked closely at the display list stuff. Are we being careful to free the display lists when we free the associated objects and remove them from the scene graph? Is this something that plib should automatically handle (but maybe isn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DOS line endings in base package

2004-10-13 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I know. I am proposing that it may be a good idea to cut it down further so that the archive is around 40MB. I've just did some googling today, and I found that I am not the only one who see the size of the archive as a problem. I think GotM could make a HUGE difference for FlightGear, maybe

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: crease for ac3d files and speedup

2004-10-13 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L. Olson writes: But to be honest I don't know that we actually ever used display lists, *unless* it was extremely early in the project before we got onboard with plib/ssg. Maybe it didn't make it into the CVS but I certainly used DLists in all the Windows executables I ever made

[Flightgear-devel] broken rendering for jpg server?

2004-10-13 Thread Birger Brunswiek
Using FlightGear's 0.9.5 http jpg server I, sometimes, get incompletely rendered images. The scenery around is missing some of the triangles and they appear as grey, blueish spots. The missing spots tend to occour more often on higher ground and far away places. Sometimes I can see the same effect