Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data/Aircraft/Lockheed1049/Models

2005-11-28 Thread Dave Culp
On Sunday 27 November 2005 08:56 pm, Jon Berndt wrote: No. The VRP defines the location of an agreed-upon reference point in structural coordinates. The CG, eyepoint, gear locations, etc. are all defined (in JSBSim) in structural frame. ... That was my understanding of it, but it seemed to

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS:data/Aircraft/Lockheed1049/Models

2005-11-28 Thread Jon Berndt
That was my understanding of it, but it seemed to not work with ___'s Connie model. Upon further review it looks like ___'s Connie model has an x-offset of about 14 meters, and I can't figure out why. So, I'll drop my investigation of it. Dave :-) Once we get the new JSBSim FDM

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data/Aircraft/Lockheed1049/Models

2005-11-27 Thread Jon Berndt
One thing that may be confusing is that the VRP setting given by aeromatic is wrong. In the JSBSim configuration file If the CG location is X, Y, Z, then the VRP location is -X, -Y, -Z.I had thought that AC_VRP defines the location of the VRP, however it actually defines the location of

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data/Aircraft/Lockheed1049 - New

2005-11-23 Thread Jon Berndt
The Constellation looks pretty nice, but has a significant drawback: The author has forgotten to implement the offset between FDM center and visual reference point. This means the aircraft rotates around it's nose which makes it almost impossible to accurately rotate for liftoff. Furtheron it

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-12-01 Thread Vivian Meazza
Curt wrote: As a project, FlightGear needs to depend on the stable releases of the stuff it depends on, not cvs development trees. That get's to be too big of a mess. Many distributions include the latest stable version of plib, and that is often easier to build. It's ok for developers to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-12-01 Thread Erik Hofman
Vivian Meazza wrote: So we have the situation where at least some of the current binary releases, do not follow this policy. The Windows for one seems to accept the crease token. The policy is not meant for the binary releases. A binary-release maintainer may even chose to use plib-1.7.3 if

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-12-01 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Vivian Meazza wrote: So we have the situation where at least some of the current binary releases, do not follow this policy. The Windows for one seems to accept the crease token. Binary releases, by definition, are not meant to be rebuild, so the hassle of collecting patches and making all

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-12-01 Thread Vivian Meazza
Erik Hofman wrote: Vivian Meazza wrote: So we have the situation where at least some of the current binary releases, do not follow this policy. The Windows for one seems to accept the crease token. The policy is not meant for the binary releases. A binary-release maintainer may

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-12-01 Thread Erik Hofman
Vivian Meazza wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: The policy is not meant for the binary releases. A binary-release maintainer may even chose to use plib-1.7.3 if he/she wishes to do so. The policy is to make it _work_ with the latest official plib release. Now I'm confused. Make what work? Sorry, I

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-12-01 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Quoting Vivian Meazza : The patch has been committed to plib CVS. Now we only (...) need to convince them to release a new stable version. Excellent news, what about the joystick problem? not committed yet, but I just asked again on the plib list. -Fred

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ * Jon Stockill -- Tuesday 30 November 2004 16:39: At 03:47 today. Modified Files: nimitz.ac Log Message: Remove crease tag so that people without custom patched versions of plib can still run FlightGear. :-) Yes, and at ... um ... right *now*: $ cd

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread David Megginson
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:40:53 -, Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry guys, I sent today's Nimitz before I realized that Curt was removing crease tokens. Mind you, after all the effort we went to get it in ... I'm a bit confused here. Mathias submitted a patch to plib, and I thought

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data preferences.xml, 1.161, 1.162

2004-11-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Vivian Meazza wrote: Sorry guys, I sent today's Nimitz before I realized that Curt was removing crease tokens. Mind you, after all the effort we went to get it in ... I'm a bit confused here. Mathias submitted a patch to plib, and I thought that Wolfram Kuss had uploaded it. What's the problem -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:40:53 -, Vivian Meazza No, it's just a matter of stability. We don't want FlightGear releases to have to depend on prerelease CVS versions of plib, so we have to wait until the next plib official release. I'm not convinced that this actually

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott No, it's just a matter of stability. We don't want FlightGear releases to have to depend on prerelease CVS versions of plib, so we have to wait until the next plib official release. I'm not convinced that this actually is the point. FlightGear has a history of depending

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Vivian Meazza wrote: Martin Spott No, it's just a matter of stability. We don't want FlightGear releases to have to depend on prerelease CVS versions of plib, so we have to wait until the next plib official release. I'm not convinced that this actually is the point. FlightGear has a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: We all are busy. Steve is extremely busy. It doesn't hurt to follow up on these things (more than once if needed.) If done in a sensitive way, you can usually accomplish reasonable things with reasonable people. I don't think anyone here is attempting to blame

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data

2004-11-30 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Perhaps as a direct suggestion to the immediate issue of the crease patch, we should get more FG people onboard as plib contributors with cvs access so we can make direct contributions and get this fixed? I looked at the developer list of the plib project (

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data/Data/AInimitz_demo.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-11-17 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote Mathias has put all the necessary stuff here: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Misc_maf/carrier/ The code that he sent me works well, but I haven't tried it from that location yet. I applied all the stuff and it worked very well. My first carrier landing

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data/Aircraft/bo105/Models bo105.ac, 1.8,

2004-03-25 Thread Vivian Meazza
Jim Wilson Curtis L. Olson said: Jim Wilson wrote: How about this one? ;-) http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/barneymobile.png Is that the don't-ask-don't-tellicopter. Haha! Is this what they call aviation innuendo? What about these folks:

RE: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS:data/Aircraft/pa28-161

2004-02-13 Thread Vivian Meazza
Jim Wilson wrote Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Josh Babcock Vivian Meazza wrote: I enter the loop in a shallow dive, 2nd stage boost on, 350 kts, pull baaack the stick and the model rolls violently and does not enter the loop ... Works fine in

Re: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS:data/Aircraft/pa28-161

2004-02-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Friday 13 February 2004 13:19: Could the prop pitch be the problem Unlikely -- it's already maximum by default. - I can't find any method of controlling it Either via http/telnet/property browser: /controls/engines/engine[n]/propeller-pitch Some joystick configs

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data/Aircraft/pa28-161

2004-02-12 Thread Jim Wilson
Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Martin wrote: David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/pa28-161 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv12589 Modified Files: pa28-161-yasim-set.xml Log Message: Change camera position

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS:data/Aircraft/pa28-161

2004-02-12 Thread Vivian Meazza
Jim Wilson wrote Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Martin wrote: David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/pa28-161 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv12589 Modified Files: pa28-161-yasim-set.xml

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS:data/Aircraft/pa28-161

2004-02-12 Thread Vivian Meazza
Jim Wilson added Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Tried that. Looks just the same to me. As I said some time ago: yer pays yer money and yer takes yer choice. Neither is right on the ground for differential braking: with one brake full on the aircraft more or less rotates

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS:data/Aircraft/pa28-161

2004-02-12 Thread Josh Babcock
Vivian Meazza wrote: I enter the loop in a shallow dive, 2nd stage boost on, 350 kts, pull baaack the stick and the model rolls violently and does not enter the loop ... Works fine in other models so it's not the obvious - the joystick. But I expect I'm doing something wrong. Yup.

RE: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS:data/Aircraft/pa28-161

2004-02-12 Thread Vivian Meazza
Jim Wilson asked Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I moved the origin, then applied an equal and opposite offset. When one differential brake is applied and the model is viewed in or helicopter view tower view it appears to be turning around its axis rather than around the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS:data/Aircraft/pa28-161

2004-02-12 Thread Vivian Meazza
Josh Babcock Vivian Meazza wrote: I enter the loop in a shallow dive, 2nd stage boost on, 350 kts, pull baaack the stick and the model rolls violently and does not enter the loop ... Works fine in other models so it's not the obvious - the joystick. But I expect I'm doing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data/Aircraft/fokker100 - New directory

2003-07-19 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/fokker100 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv5280/Aircraft/fokker100 Log Message: Directory /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/fokker100 added to the repository Hi Erik, Think we're still