Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views --- continued

2003-07-18 Thread Erik Hofman
Michael Selig wrote: I just did a cvs update in the process of updating some uiuc files, e.g. the recorder files which had some issues and I want to put the new ones on the fgfs cvs. In the process of doing the updates, I have found that the two chase views we had are now ***very*** different.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-16 Thread Manuel Bessler
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 03:04:11PM -, Jim Wilson wrote: Hmm, this makes me think we could use the Linux way of switching text consoles: alt+F1 ... alt+F8 - 8 different views! I know there's at least one flight simulator that toggles views with the function keys. Maybe it's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-15 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, this makes me think we could use the Linux way of switching text consoles: alt+F1 ... alt+F8 - 8 different views! I know there's at least one flight simulator that toggles views with the function keys. Maybe it's ACM (I didn't use ACM for 7 years or

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-15 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Hmm, this makes me think we could use the Linux way of switching text consoles: alt+F1 ... alt+F8 - 8 different views! I know there's at least one flight simulator that toggles views with the function keys. Maybe it's ACM (I didn't use ACM for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: One option would be to just leave the v the way it is and come up with a key combo that jumps directly to the two views you want to access easily. CTRL+v goes directly to view 1 now. Maybe something else could go directly to view 2 how about CTRL+SHIFT+V? Or actually CTRL+V

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-14 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson writes: I'm in agreement here. Actually Fly! II has something like 10 views on the single key. I used to lose control of the plane in FLY! trying to get back to pilot view. The worse thing was when I hit the wrong key, and started getting the view from the AI planes. All the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-14 Thread Norman Vine
Lee Elliott writes: On Monday 14 July 2003 01:59, Norman Vine wrote: Nothing says you can't change your local source The following reverts to the previous HUD Ta for that but I'd rather manage with the standard FG as far as possible. I'm already using a modified hud_ladr and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-14 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jim Wilson writes: I'm in agreement here. Actually Fly! II has something like 10 views on the single key. I used to lose control of the plane in FLY! trying to get back to pilot view. The worse thing was when I hit the wrong key, and started

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-14 Thread WillyB
Here's my opinion on the views: I like to switch views a lot and have remapped the num pad so that those views are no longer shifted since I use the joystick and not the unshifted num keys. I'm not sure what the numbers accross the top do... Hittin just one key and not a combo to switch veiws

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-14 Thread Norman Vine
Norman Vine wrote: attached find patches that implement a new option --enable-hud-3d default --disable-hud-3d Note that the disable variant also reverts the HUD Ladder 'compression factor'. The compression is 'sticky' ie what is set at startup is what you get for the duration of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Norman Vine wrote: Ooops I didn't add entries for these to the help file Would someone with CVS privilige please commit these Too late. I had already modified it. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-14 Thread Michael Selig
At 7/14/03, Norman Vine wrote: Lee Elliott writes: On Monday 14 July 2003 01:59, Norman Vine wrote: Nothing says you can't change your local source The following reverts to the previous HUD Ta for that but I'd rather manage with the standard FG as far as possible. I'm already using a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-14 Thread Lee Elliott
On Monday 14 July 2003 13:37, Norman Vine wrote: Lee Elliott writes: On Monday 14 July 2003 01:59, Norman Vine wrote: Nothing says you can't change your local source The following reverts to the previous HUD Ta for that but I'd rather manage with the standard FG as far as

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-13 Thread Michael Selig
At 7/12/03, Erik wrote: Hi, I noticed the number of views accessible using the 'v' is increasing. I think it's a good idea to have a number of views, but I propose to limit the views accessible using the 'v' key to a maximum of three and only for views that are directly related to the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-13 Thread David Megginson
Erik Hofman writes: I mean we now have a tower view, we might come up with a final Approach view and someday somebody will come by and asks for a windsock view. Those are really candidates for a view selection dialog. Two truly useful ones would be a ground-chase view and a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-13 Thread Rick Ansell
On 12 Jul 2003 22:49:22 +0100, Christopher S Horler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the idea of a menu for views... Is there a way to reset the view - I sometimes move the view outside of the plane around. I would like to see it simple - two views one of the outside and one of the cockpit

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-13 Thread Lee Elliott
On Sunday 13 July 2003 10:54, David Megginson wrote: Erik Hofman writes: I mean we now have a tower view, we might come up with a final Approach view and someday somebody will come by and asks for a windsock view. Those are really candidates for a view selection dialog. Two truly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-13 Thread Matt Fienberg
I agree with this completely. I do the same. I was wondering about an additional feature... Other than recording entire flights, I've never seen what my own [attempted] landing looked like Would it be possible to add a feature where the simulation would immediately be paused, and rewinded

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-13 Thread Michael Selig
At 7/13/03, Erik wrote: Michael Selig wrote: I would like to ask, however, that a view menu structure be in place before removing the current various 'v'-key views. That was the intention. Did something go wrong? Something go wrong --- I did not mean to imply that. I've not done a cvs

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-13 Thread Lee Elliott
On Monday 14 July 2003 00:35, Michael Selig wrote: At 7/13/03, Erik wrote: Michael Selig wrote: I would like to ask, however, that a view menu structure be in place before removing the current various 'v'-key views. That was the intention. Did something go wrong? Something go wrong

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-13 Thread Norman Vine
Lee Elliott writes: On Monday 14 July 2003 00:35, Michael Selig wrote: With the latter two, it'd be really nice to get back the 2D HUD (vs the 3D one that moves around). I used the old 2D HUD a lot w/ demos and in my own model development. Same here about using the HUD for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-12 Thread David Culp
... I propose to limit the views accessible using the 'v' key to a maximum of three and only for views that are directly related to the aircraft. For other views I would propose to use a menu entry instead. Good idea. -- David Culp [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On 12 Jul 2003 15:08:00 GMT, Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you know that 'V' scrolls backwards through the views, and 'CTRL+v' returns to the first view? Whatever changes will be made, we should keep this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-12 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I noticed the number of views accessible using the 'v' is increasing. I think it's a good idea to have a number of views, but I propose to limit the views accessible using the 'v' key to a maximum of three and only for views that are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Views

2003-07-12 Thread Christopher S Horler
I like the idea of a menu for views... Is there a way to reset the view - I sometimes move the view outside of the plane around. I would like to see it simple - two views one of the outside and one of the cockpit (cycled by v). Then Ctrl v could be bound to resetting the view. All remaining