Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Jack Mermod wrote: Hi Everybody, I recently was on Multiplayer, flying with a friend, minding my own business, when another pilot asked a general newbie question: Where can I find the Nimitz?. In only good intent, I replied: Look around the Golden Gate Bridge,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread Curtis Olson
Oh dear ... http://www.noswearing.com/dictionary I was going to say that we could probably do a pretty good job at coming up with a list ourselves, then I saw this site and realized I'm a complete novice ... Could we also filter at the MP server level? It might be nice to filter at the sending

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread syd adams
 That stuff is unnecessary and in real life you'd probably get your license yanked if you were caught using foul language on the radio. Here, in Canada , its a $5000 fine and/or a year in jail.That,s a pretty good deterrent :).

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread Reagan Thomas
On 10/19/2010 7:56 AM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Jack Mermod wrote: Hi Everybody, I recently was on Multiplayer, flying with a friend, minding my own business, when another pilot asked a general newbie question: Where can I find the Nimitz?. In only good

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread Mally
?Forgive my ignorance, but what happens at the moment? Does nobody say anything to the abusers? Doesn't peer pressure, good example and setting guidelines present a more realistic solution (realistic by comparison with what happens in real world aviation I mean) rather than coming up with an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread Reagan Thomas
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Reagan Thomas thomas...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/19/2010 7:56 AM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Jack Mermod wrote: Hi Everybody, I recently was on Multiplayer, flying with a friend, minding my own business, when another pilot asked

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread Gene Buckle
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010, Curtis Olson wrote: Oh dear ... http://www.noswearing.com/dictionary I was going to say that we could probably do a pretty good job at coming up with a list ourselves, then I saw this site and realized I'm a complete novice ... A filter like this belongs in the client

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread Reagan Thomas
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:25 AM, syd adams adams@gmail.com wrote: That stuff is unnecessary and in real life you'd probably get your license yanked if you were caught using foul language on the radio. Here, in Canada , its a $5000 fine and/or a year in jail.That,s a pretty good

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread Curtis Olson
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: A filter like this belongs in the client machine, not the server. It's not the job of a multi-player server to provide nanny services. If the end user doesn't want to see adult language, they're welcome to enable whatever filtering that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread Stefan Seifert
On Tuesday 19 October 2010 16:41:35 Mally wrote: ?Forgive my ignorance, but what happens at the moment? Does nobody say anything to the abusers? Doesn't peer pressure, good example and setting guidelines present a more realistic solution (realistic by comparison with what happens in real world

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread Gene Buckle
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010, Curtis Olson wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: A filter like this belongs in the client machine, not the server. It's not the job of a multi-player server to provide nanny services. If the end user doesn't want to see adult language, they're

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread Curtis Olson
Promoting the concept of free market place of ideas here: The multiplayer server source is open and anyone can setup their own server. Sure the MP system is only fun when there are lots of people participating ... But if someone wants to have their own private free for all and express any

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread Gary Neely
A few additional details can be found by reading the relevant post as jackmermod in the FG forums: I experienced a horrible attack over mp today. I ended up flying up on the attackers 6 o'clock in my F-14 and firing upon him with over 20 Aim-9's in hopes of causing him to lag. Luckily I caused

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread Martin Spott
Stefan Seifert wrote: Very sensible words. Technical solutions usually don't work for social problems. Exactly this is the point, and I'd like to add that the social problem we're currently looking at might be manifold Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread Adam Dershowitz, Ph.D., P.E.
Instead of trying to put together a list, you should watch a video of George Carlin's Seven dirty words. Censorship is not the solution to this kind of problem. It is just too easy to come up with a way to be offensive, or to threaten someone. If you decide to censor, then YOU take the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread Stefan Seifert
On Tuesday 19 October 2010 18:51:37 Martin Spott wrote: Stefan Seifert wrote: Very sensible words. Technical solutions usually don't work for social problems. Exactly this is the point, and I'd like to add that the social problem we're currently looking at might be manifold But I'd

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread Vivian Meazza
Gary Neely wrote A few additional details can be found by reading the relevant post as jackmermod in the FG forums: I experienced a horrible attack over mp today. I ended up flying up on the attackers 6 o'clock in my F-14 and firing upon him with over 20 Aim-9's in hopes of causing him

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread Vivian Meazza
Hal V. Engel wrote On Tuesday, October 19, 2010 02:15:08 pm Vivian Meazza wrote: Gary Neely wrote A few additional details can be found by reading the relevant post as jackmermod in the FG forums: I experienced a horrible attack over mp today. I ended up flying up on the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

2010-10-19 Thread fierst42
One account per IP address is not a good idea, because it is very well possible for several independent people to use the same public IP address. In IPv4 at least with NAT routers. I can think of examples in student homes with a shared broadband connection. Or the clubhouse of the flying club.