Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Performance on WIndows
Lets hope that youre correct. Right now we have _fewer_ features, and a _lower_ frame rate. I hope that adding back the features we used to have wont further reduce the frame rate, let alone adding new ones. Were in danger of limiting the use of FG to high end machines. I have a reasonable machine, with a FX6200 video card, and FG performance is barely acceptable under certain circumstances already. Vivian Curtis Olson wrote: I have no idea, but I do know that plib/ssg was very tight and clean and fast code. OSG is very feature rich, it has far more capabilities than plib/ssg, but features usually come with a price. I wouldn't be surprised if we take some amount of a frame rate hit moving to OSG. Hopefully we can find ways to optimize to minimize this problem, and perhaps there is something glaring we can find that will win a large amount of this performance loss back. Curt. On 11/5/06, Olaf Flebbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, while double (and triple ;-) - checking everthing I discovered that I had a prerelease of Mathias overhauled AC3D Loader in my 3rdparty.zip. You may find an update on my website. Sadly, this doesn't change framerate. Uncommenting sceneView-update() in render.cxx gives a performance jump from 60FPS to 80FPS. (plib was 100FPS). Traversing the scenegraph seems to be quite timing relevant. Can we limit this special update-traversal only to the aircraft (IMHO it is all it does)? Can somebody confirm that the framerate with OSG is better compared to plib on Linux? Default c172 at KSFO, please. Does anybody has a idea whats going on? The OSG Code is pretty #ifdef'less. Olaf - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Again: VATSIM and FlightGear?
Hello *, I am new to the FlightGear developer list and so I know not very much about former discusions about FlightGear and VATSIM. I try to build a realtime radio for FlightGear based on VoIP (I have already an alpha release - I just have to test this software behind NAT). The next step would be to create a radar screen. At this point I thaught that it would be nicer to create a VATSIM gateway but as some developers told me there are problems with NDAs and the protocol (not open source :-( ). But what about a black-box outside of FlightGear which acts as a gateway to VATSIM? This program may be not open source but it is quite not necessary because it can use the flexible protocol architecture of FlightGear to communicate with VATSIM. How about this for the FlighGear community? If this is acceptable I would suggest that I try to contact VATSIM and will hear what they mean about this. Regards, Holger -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG - Bugs
Hi, Vivian Meazza wrote: Ralf Gerlich wrote: - transparency issues: The reflector gun sight on the Seahawk does the same. So I would assume that it's a transparency ordering bug. I just remembered that I had a similar issue with transparency in the plib-only version. I'm currently working on a model of the Comco Ikarus C42B microlight. Some instrument scales in the 3D cockpit wouldn't show if I added the transparent glasses in front of them. As soon as I removed the glasses, the scales showed. Note that this should be no z-fighting issue as the glasses are nearly a centimeter away from the scales, towards the viewer. The same happened with the glass around the forward half of the whiskey compass. Interestingly this only seems to happen with some of the instruments, whereas for others I have no problems seeing the scales even though I have glasses in front of them. Need to check that again with the OSG version. Cheers, Ralf - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] patch for groundcache.cxx problem
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Index: groundcache.cxx
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RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/FDM/groundcache.cxx,v
retrieving revision 1.18
diff -d -u -r1.18 groundcache.cxx
--- groundcache.cxx 29 Oct 2006 19:30:25 - 1.18
+++ groundcache.cxx 6 Nov 2006 09:56:04 -
@@ -370,17 +370,25 @@
virtual void apply(osg::Transform transform)
{
+if (!enterNode(transform))
+ return;
+bool oldBackfaceCulling = mBackfaceCulling;
+bool oldSphIsec = sphIsec;
+FGGroundCache::GroundProperty oldGp = mGroundProperty;
/// transform the caches center to local coords
osg::Matrix oldLocalToGlobal = mLocalToGlobal;
transform.computeLocalToWorldMatrix(mLocalToGlobal, this);
// walk the children
-apply((osg::Group)transform);
+traverse(transform);
// Restore that one
mLocalToGlobal = oldLocalToGlobal;
+sphIsec = oldSphIsec;
+mBackfaceCulling = oldBackfaceCulling;
+mGroundProperty = oldGp;
}
-
+
void addTriangle(const osg::Vec3 v1, const osg::Vec3 v2,
const osg::Vec3 v3)
{
-
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time
Quoting Thomas Biwer : Indeed, the problem seems to be in some plib code, since he points me towards the file ssgloadac.cxx , line 898 which says: loader_fd = fopen ( filename, ra ) ; You need a newer plib ( svn or the proposed pre-1.8.5 tarball ). This line is faulty and need to be changed to : loader_fd = fopen ( filename, r ) ; ( 'a' removed in ra ) -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278/partner/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Performance on WIndows
Quoting Vivian Meazza : Let's hope that you're correct. Right now we have _fewer_ features, and a _lower_ frame rate. I hope that adding back the features we used to have won't further reduce the frame rate, let alone adding new ones. We're in danger of limiting the use of FG to high end machines. I have a reasonable machine, with a FX6200 video card, and FG performance is barely acceptable under certain circumstances already. I hope the total freedom of using features given by OSG will encourage us to think about more clever ways to do things, that could be beneficial in the end. For instance, using multitexturing instead of cutting tiny triangle in the scenery to draw features such as road and steams. Or better use of multi core architectures ( which means multithreading ) that should be mainstream in a not so distant future. -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278/partner/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] trouble installing plib
Olaf Flebbe wrote: I am not able to install plib on a solaris 9 sun machine. I run the ./configure and no errors are shown. When i do make i get this error: Error code 1 make:fatal error:command failed to target 'pu.o' This is a FlightGear list, not a plib list ;-) and, BTW, it's not considerered as a good style to hijack a thread with a totally different topic, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend
Curtis Olson wrote: Good job Durk and Robin, thanks for the report and for all your work! Seconded, Martin. P.S.: ;-)) -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear and VATSIM
George, On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 08:57:41PM +1030, George Patterson wrote: [...] But there has been some talk about stand-alone bridging software AFAIK. The background of my question was the following: If there are ideas to implement VATSIM I need not to go on to implenent something else (non compatible) for flightgear. Thanks, Holger Hi Holger, The short of it is fairly simple. VATSIM refuses to release the details of their protocol (possible exception being via an NDA) which makes it incompatible with an Open source project. As such it will never be included with Flightgear or even in the same cvs repositiory. Therefore we (the flightgear community) will have come up with our own protocol and means of operating. Ok, I see the problem. But I think it will be difficult to get a big community for atc flying and it will be more difficult to build the same atc applications for a new protocol. Maybe a new protocol will be better and really open - but tell this a user who has a woriking solution up and running (or at least in a state where he knows the bugs and ships arround = M$ Win) :-( As I wrote in my last email: I have some interest in writing a voice and (simple) atc client. But I don't like to write thousand lines of code and at the end someone says I have a VATSIM gateway - let's rock with VATSIM. regards, Holger Holger -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend
Hi John, Jon S. Berndt wrote: It might be a good idea to have printed a few copies of some of the technical reports that have been presented for FlightGear and related or constituent parts. For instance, I presented a paper on JSBSim in 2004 at the AIAA Modeling and Simulation Conference. and here lies the difference. Yours is a _really_ good idea when it comes to present the inners of FlightGear to the people who know what you're talking about. At FSWeekend many people tell between different versions !! of a (the) flight simulator simply by the look - and are totally surprised that the screen doesn't show M$FS at all. I guess that most of the audience at FSWeekend is simply overstrained when you talk to them about technical workings in FlightGear - still I'll try to remember your proposal fot times when FlightGear is being presented to an audience that matches the required level of knowledge. I agree with both of you -- it's a good idea to have the printed copies available and it's not good to present the papers more than pointing over to a stand with printouts for those interested in the technical details. This will give the necessary background info to the few advanced visitors to the booth and will not overstrain the others... - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] water landing
syd wrote: Now THAT had to be embarrasing! Actually while researching floats with retractable wheels for the DHC-2 , [...] Mmmmh, this definitely is an aircraft that I'd love to fly during my 'career' as private pilot - this aircraft just has 'charisma' ! Ok, I'd try to avoid the nose-dive Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear and VATSIM
Le lundi 6 novembre 2006 11:43, Holger Wirtz a écrit : Ok, I see the problem. But I think it will be difficult to get a big community for atc flying and it will be more difficult to build the same atc applications for a new protocol. Maybe a new protocol will be better and really open - but tell this a user who has a woriking solution up and running (or at least in a state where he knows the bugs and ships arround = M$ Win) :-( As I wrote in my last email: I have some interest in writing a voice and (simple) atc client. But I don't like to write thousand lines of code and at the end someone says I have a VATSIM gateway - let's rock with VATSIM. regards, Holger Holger Let me explain what is an open-source project. the source code can be reading and including in another project: 1 - sometimes it necessary to remake the wheel because of non-open source code available. but when you did it, you offer it to the community and everyone can include your code in another open-source application. for example : flightgear community write simgear whitch can be included in another project (i heard about a water-ship simulation) 2 - you don't care about licensing because you write the code or you include open-source code only. 3 - your work is protected by the open-source license. commercial application cannot stealth your code. they can or cannot include your work (depending of the license gpl:not, creative commons:yes) but in all cases they must giving the author name and where find the original code (your work). i hope being clear because i'm not an english guru, only a padawan (sorry i'm french ;-) ) -- Didier Fabert [EMAIL PROTECTED] KFreeFlight project : A FlightGear GUI-Frontend designed for KDE users http://kfreeflight.sourceforge.net - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bo105, the different helicopter
Maik Justus wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKPREi3TGXwmode=relatedsearch= Oh man, this is one of the _really_ old MBB demo movies with the 'hot-and-high'-equipped BO105. I've seen that movie before, it must be at least 15 years old Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] flightgear CVS and amd64
Hi Alexis, alexis bory wrote: CVS version will segfault with many aicraft due to the switch to OSG, but it works fine with OSG compatible aircrafts. Would you mind creating a short list of aircraft that you know to be 'compatible' ? Thanks, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Performance on WIndows
Vivian Meazza wrote: Let's hope that you're correct. Right now we have _fewer_ features, and a _lower_ frame rate. I hope that adding back the features we used to have won't further reduce the frame rate, let alone adding new ones. Hey, guys, you're talking about a _development_ source code tree, don't forget about this!! It's funny to realize that people got used to have such a consistent and stable development tree that they already see the whole project at risk just because _real_ development is currently taking place :-) Mathias did a huge task to make the switch over to OSG actually happen. Apparently the next item on the TODO list is to remove the glitches of the port and do some fine tuning, afterwards to remove the dirty hacks that had been implemented in the PLIB version - and which are still present - and add them as a 'clean' solution to the OSG version. Don't feel to be looking at the dark side of the moon just because your field-glasses got dirty ;-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear and VATSIM
Holger Wirtz wrote: All I want wo avoid is to write code for something that will never be used because there are plans for connecting to other well known available services - if they are open source or not. Please let us slow down this topic for a few days as the FlightGear people at FSWeekend ;-) have been approached by another online simulation network and are currently investigating if it makes sense to follow their route, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Performance on WIndows
Martin Spott Vivian Meazza wrote: Let's hope that you're correct. Right now we have _fewer_ features, and a _lower_ frame rate. I hope that adding back the features we used to have won't further reduce the frame rate, let alone adding new ones. Hey, guys, you're talking about a _development_ source code tree, don't forget about this!! It's funny to realize that people got used to have such a consistent and stable development tree that they already see the whole project at risk just because _real_ development is currently taking place :-) Mathias did a huge task to make the switch over to OSG actually happen. Apparently the next item on the TODO list is to remove the glitches of the port and do some fine tuning, afterwards to remove the dirty hacks that had been implemented in the PLIB version - and which are still present - and add them as a 'clean' solution to the OSG version. Don't feel to be looking at the dark side of the moon just because your field-glasses got dirty ;-) Hmm when most of your ac are broken, you have no idea how to fix them, and your computer has just totally frozen while trying to run fg-osg for the 3rd time ... when you are up to your arse in alligators, it's hard to remember that your original aim was to drain the swamp. Vivian - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Launcher source code location.
I need the latest FlightGear launcher source code.Anyone knows where to get it ?Thanks,LeidsonPlanetaMessenger.org - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Launcher source code location.
Quoting Leidson Campos A. Ferreira : I need the latest FlightGear launcher source code. Anyone knows where to get it ? If you write about fgrun, go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/fgrun You'll be able to get the latest development sources via SVN or download the released tarball. -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278/partner/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Performance on WIndows
Quoting Vivian Meazza : Martin Spott Vivian Meazza wrote: Let's hope that you're correct. Right now we have _fewer_ features, and a _lower_ frame rate. I hope that adding back the features we used to have won't further reduce the frame rate, let alone adding new ones. Hey, guys, you're talking about a _development_ source code tree, don't forget about this!! It's funny to realize that people got used to have such a consistent and stable development tree that they already see the whole project at risk just because _real_ development is currently taking place :-) Mathias did a huge task to make the switch over to OSG actually happen. Apparently the next item on the TODO list is to remove the glitches of the port and do some fine tuning, afterwards to remove the dirty hacks that had been implemented in the PLIB version - and which are still present - and add them as a 'clean' solution to the OSG version. Don't feel to be looking at the dark side of the moon just because your field-glasses got dirty ;-) Hmm when most of your ac are broken, you have no idea how to fix them, and your computer has just totally frozen while trying to run fg-osg for the 3rd time ... when you are up to your arse in alligators, it's hard to remember that your original aim was to drain the swamp. If all broken ac are like the A4F ( the model is yours, isn't it ), then there was an inconcistency it the model, where some objects are declared groups where they should be polys because they have vertices and triangles data in them. Check the differences in a4-blue.ac Regards, -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278/partner/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] MSVC Linking trouble
I'm now posting this in another thread because the FlightGear Starting time thread doesnt seem to be the right location for my problem now. I compiled FG 0.9.10 release version with MSVC 2005 Express and was facing some weired problem causing FG to crash every time I tried to start it. As I figured out that it had to be a problem within some plib-code I recompiled it again, this time using plib-1.8.5 and the diff-files given on Olaf's website www.oflebbe.de . Now I m stuck in the linking progress of FlightGear, there are some unresolved symbols and I dont know how to fix them: Linking... pui.lib(puSlider.obj) : error LNK2005: public: void __thiscall puSlider::setSliderFraction(float) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@@[EMAIL PROTECTED]) already defined in FlightgearLib.lib(auto_gui.obj) FlightgearLib.lib(puList.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol public: void __thiscall puObject::setColourScheme(float,float,float,float) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@@[EMAIL PROTECTED]) FlightgearLib.lib(auto_gui.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol public: void __thiscall puObject::setColourScheme(float,float,float,float) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@@[EMAIL PROTECTED]) referenced in function public: __thiscall puInput::puInput(int,int,int,int) (??0puInput@@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@Z) FlightgearLib.lib(preset_dlg.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol public: void __thiscall puObject::setColourScheme(float,float,float,float) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@@[EMAIL PROTECTED]) FlightgearLib.lib(prop_picker.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol public: void __thiscall puObject::setColourScheme(float,float,float,float) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@@[EMAIL PROTECTED]) FlightgearLib.lib(dialog.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol public: void __thiscall puObject::setColourScheme(float,float,float,float) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@@[EMAIL PROTECTED]) FlightgearLib.lib(httpd.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol public: int __thiscall netAddress::getPort(void)const ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@@QBEHXZ) referenced in function private: virtual void __thiscall HttpdServer::handleAccept(void) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@@EAEXXZ) FlightgearLib.lib(props.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol public: int __thiscall netAddress::getPort(void)const ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@@QBEHXZ) FlightgearLib.lib(dialog.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol public: __thiscall puSelectBox::puSelectBox(int,int,int,int,char * *) (??0puSelectBox@@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@Z) referenced in function private: class puObject * __thiscall FGDialog::makeObject(class SGPropertyNode *,int,int) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@@AAEPAVpuObject@@PAVSGPropertyNode@@[EMAIL PROTECTED]) FlightgearLib.lib(dialog.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol public: __thiscall puLargeInput::puLargeInput(int,int,int,int,int,int,int) (??0puLargeInput@@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@Z) referenced in function private: class puObject * __thiscall FGDialog::makeObject(class SGPropertyNode *,int,int) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@@AAEPAVpuObject@@PAVSGPropertyNode@@[EMAIL PROTECTED]) FlightgearLib.lib(dialog.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol public: __thiscall puComboBox::puComboBox(int,int,int,int,char * *,int) (??0puComboBox@@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@Z) referenced in function private: class puObject * __thiscall FGDialog::makeObject(class SGPropertyNode *,int,int) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@@AAEPAVpuObject@@PAVSGPropertyNode@@[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Release\FlightGear.exe : fatal error LNK1120: 5 unresolved externals Does someone have an idea what I could try to do? Thanks. best, Thomas - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Performance on WIndows
Frederic Bouvier Quoting Vivian Meazza : Martin Spott Vivian Meazza wrote: Let's hope that you're correct. Right now we have _fewer_ features, and a _lower_ frame rate. I hope that adding back the features we used to have won't further reduce the frame rate, let alone adding new ones. Hey, guys, you're talking about a _development_ source code tree, don't forget about this!! It's funny to realize that people got used to have such a consistent and stable development tree that they already see the whole project at risk just because _real_ development is currently taking place :-) Mathias did a huge task to make the switch over to OSG actually happen. Apparently the next item on the TODO list is to remove the glitches of the port and do some fine tuning, afterwards to remove the dirty hacks that had been implemented in the PLIB version - and which are still present - and add them as a 'clean' solution to the OSG version. Don't feel to be looking at the dark side of the moon just because your field-glasses got dirty ;-) Hmm when most of your ac are broken, you have no idea how to fix them, and your computer has just totally frozen while trying to run fg-osg for the 3rd time ... when you are up to your arse in alligators, it's hard to remember that your original aim was to drain the swamp. If all broken ac are like the A4F ( the model is yours, isn't it ), then there was an inconcistency it the model, where some objects are declared groups where they should be polys because they have vertices and triangles data in them. Check the differences in a4-blue.ac Yes, I saw you had fixed that, but that's the only one with that particular problem. Since it worked under plib, and AC3D didn't complain, I would never have worked that one out - thank you. If only the rest were that easy - the others seem to be keyboard/panel control problems, but I expect you read my earlier posting. Vivian - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Performance on WIndows
Vivian Meazza wrote: Yes, I saw you had fixed that, but that's the only one with that particular problem. Since it worked under plib, and AC3D didn't complain, [...] In his 'announcement' Mathias has been mentioning that the AC3D-loader still requires some further finishing. I wouldn't worry _too_ much about these issues, at least not as long as the AC3D-loader in OSG is explicitly tagged as work in progress. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Airport - facilities
Hi all, I've started to add airport facilities on some airports. I've finished almost everything but the airport name (http://www.airport-belgrade.co.yu/upload/images/galerije/eksterijer/velike/t2zgrukoso.JPG, http://www.airport-belgrade.co.yu/upload/images/galerije/eksterijer/velike/Aerodrom%20Beograd.jpg) This name is 3d text which is able to beacon at the night. I was thinking to create each letter in separate *.ac file, so any user could assemble name he wants. Blender refuses to compile on my PC so I didnt succeed to create :( Maybe this feature would be nice in UFO model Regards, Darko T. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Again: VATSIM and FlightGear?
Hi Holger,Yes, I think a separate black box gateway application to vatsim would be a very plausible way to move forward. You could keep all the NDA/Proprietary stuff in it's own sandbox and separate from FlightGear. That way you don't have to worry about incompatible license issues. Your black box knows how to speak vatsim and flightgear, and flightgear doesn't need to learn how to speak vatsim, which is probably not possible anyway given their licensing restrictions. Regards,Curt.On 11/6/06, Holger Wirtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello *,I am new to the FlightGear developer list and so I know not very muchabout former discusions about FlightGear and VATSIM.I try to build a realtime radio for FlightGear based on VoIP (I have already an alpha release - I just have to test this software behind NAT). Thenext step would be to create a radar screen.At this point I thaught that it would be nicer to create a VATSIMgateway but as some developers told me there are problems with NDAs and the protocol (not open source :-( ).But what about a black-box outside of FlightGear which acts as agateway to VATSIM? This program may be not open source but it is quitenot necessary because it can use the flexible protocol architecture of FlightGear to communicate with VATSIM.How about this for the FlighGear community? If this is acceptable Iwould suggest that I try to contact VATSIM and will hear what they meanabout this.Regards, Holger --# Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ### 10963 Berlin### GERMANYWWW : http://www.dfn.deGPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF -Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimohttp://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___Flightgear-devel mailing listFlightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel-- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/http://www.flightgear.orgUnique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] XML Property synonym mechanism?
Hi, Is it possible to specify the assignment of a property from another property in XML files? The property-assign command would do the thing but requires a user input. In fact I would like to know whether I can specify a property synonym by XML. My need comes from the fact I am trying to make the EGPWS Mk VIII emulation included in B1900D model work with the A320 model. Among others the EGPWS uses the /instrumentation/attitude-indicator/indicated-roll-deg property which is not set by the model. Thus I would like to specify the /instrumentation/attitude-indicator/indicated-roll-deg property to be a synonym of the /orientation/roll-deg property. I do not know if it is possible or if there is another simple way to do that. Thanks in advance for any help. Remi - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airport - facilities
I dont know. Do you have an example xml? Where do you put this encoding utf-8 font, name TTFBookman, font height 2000 mm, font width 500mm, font depth -200mm, text sr_YU: AERODROM BEOGRAD +logo +en_GB: BELGRADE AIRPORT ? Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:53:41 +0100, Darko wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I've started to add airport facilities on some airports. I've finished almost everything but the airport name (http://www.airport-belgrade.co.yu/upload/images/galerije/eksterijer/ velike/t2zgrukoso.JPG, http://www.airport-belgrade.co.yu/upload/images/galerije/eksterijer/velike/Aerodrom%20Beograd.jpg) This name is 3d text which is able to beacon at the night. I was thinking to create each letter in separate *.ac file, ..delurking; Shouldn't these letters be generated from fonts in 3D space, say with encoding utf-8 font, name TTFBookman, font height 2000 mm, font width 500mm, font depth -200mm, text sr_YU: AERODROM BEOGRAD +logo +en_GB: BELGRADE AIRPORT or some such, but more xml than my halfbaked attempt? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] A newby.
Hi, Magus schrieb: Hello All, ... I would like to know: a) What's the preferred Windows CVS tool? Don't know. I am using cygwin cvs, but there is wincvs, which could be easier to use/install. b) How do I find and access your CVS repository? It's summarized on several places, e. g. in the pdf documentation 'how to build flightgear with cygwin' :fgfs_cygwin.pdf c) Is the code in the repository compatible with M$'s V8 compilers? yes d) What do I have to have from the repository in order to compile it with M$'s V8 tools and end up with a working FS? look in the wiki (http://wiki.flightgear.org), there is a link to a howto by olaf flebbe. Please keep in mind, that we have a major update in the cvs (from plib to osg, the 3D-library), but most of this documentation is written for the old plib code (which still can be found in cvs: cvs up -rPRE_OSG_PLIB_20061029 ). On top of the page you can find, how to compile the osg-version, but read the complete page first. e) If I extract the contents of fgfs-win32-20061024.zip and data.tar.gz to a different FlightGear directory than the one setup by FGFS 0.9.10 can I copy the missing contents e.g. fgadmin and the other programs in the /bin/win32 directory to the new directory and have a fully working copy of FG? There is a version check, that will fail if you use the 9.10 data directoriy. It's easier to get the data directory directly from cvs. I hope I'm not being too much of a pain in the behind with all these questions and your answers will be much appreciated, yes even the flames as long as they contain some information I don't know. Maik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] wiki.flightgear.org slower and slower, when not down
hi, How to contact the server maintener? The wiki was very slow the last days and now it's not usable anymore. Alexis - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Performance on WIndows
Selon Vivian Meazza : Yes, I saw you had fixed that, but that's the only one with that particular problem. Since it worked under plib, and AC3D didn't complain, I would never have worked that one out - thank you. If only the rest were that easy - the others seem to be keyboard/panel control problems, but I expect you read my earlier posting. Would you mind reminding me what are the current problems as detailed as you can so I can try to debug myself ? -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278/partner/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Launcher source code location.
Selon Leidson Campos A. Ferreira : If you write about fgrun, go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/fgrun Yes, That right ! You'll be able to get the latest development sources via SVN or download the released tarball. I've downloaded the released tarball and now I'm trying to compile it, but GCC compiler generate 3 unresolved linker errors. See below: 1) run_posix.o(.text+0x17d):/home/leidson/Downloads/FlightGear/fgrun-0.4.8 /fgrun-0.4.8/src/run_posix.cxx:87: undefined reference to `Fl::unlock()' 2) /home/leidson/Downloads/FlightGear/fgrun-0.4.8/fgrun-0.4.8/src/run_posix.cxx:87: undefined reference to `Fl::unlock()' You need to configure and compile fltk with --enable-threads : http://fgrun.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/fgrun/trunk/fgrun/README?revision=350 -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278/partner/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airport - facilities
Selon Darko Tasovac : Hi all, I've started to add airport facilities on some airports. I've finished almost everything but the airport name (http://www.airport-belgrade.co.yu/upload/images/galerije/eksterijer/velike/t2zgrukoso.JPG, http://www.airport-belgrade.co.yu/upload/images/galerije/eksterijer/velike/Aerodrom%20Beograd.jpg) This name is 3d text which is able to beacon at the night. I was thinking to create each letter in separate *.ac file, so any user could assemble name he wants. Blender refuses to compile on my PC so I didnt succeed to create :( Maybe this feature would be nice in UFO model There are pre-compiled binaries for Blender -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278/partner/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] OSG ac3d loader
Some of you (Olaf?) knows what is the acceptance status of ac3d loader patch from upstream mantainers? thanx Douglas Campos - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend
On Monday 06 November 2006 11:29, Martin Spott wrote: Curtis Olson wrote: Good job Durk and Robin, thanks for the report and for all your work! Seconded, Martin. P.S.: ;-)) Thanks (BIG :-))! Hope you had a good trip home. Okay, I promised some pictures now that my linux box is online again: http://durktalsma.xs4all.nl/FlightGear/fsweekend/web/ The second day of the event was also quite good. My impression is that the Sunday was a bit more family oriented than Saturday, in the sense that on Sunday we had a significantly larger number of kids at the booth. In general, I'm quite satisfied with how the event unfolded, despite a few glitches. The most annoying of these was the fact that my windows box was suffering from random program hangups, which I couldn't resolve during the show. In addition, we had wanted to setup a multi display setup, but didn't manage to get it to work. Next time, we should make sure to have a quick howto available for these things. I was actually quite pleasantly surprised that many people couldn't tell from the graphics (at first sight) that we were demonstrating something other than microsoft flightsimulator (I don't see any reason to deny that their graphics are quite good, so in that respect, the fact that people overlook the differences is an excellent compliment IMHO). Those who had both real world and FlightSimulator experience, felt that our Flight Dynamics were quite a lot better than those of MSFS). Anyways, now that the event is over, I'm probably going to take it easy for a while, although I won't drop out of the project. :-) I'd definitely like to organize something like this again next year. Your special FSWeekend reporter signing off. :-) Durk - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] wiki.flightgear.org slower and slower, when not down
On 11/6/06, alexis bory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi,How to contact the server maintener? The wiki was very slow the lastdays and now it's not usable anymore.AlexisAlexis, I've noticed the same problem and I'm contacting my web hosting company regarding the slowness. It is a shared hosting server and at peak times it seems to be worse than others. It's working fine for me right now after the browser caches the _javascript_ and style sheets. Simon - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bo105, the different helicopter
Yes, they are very old (probably much older than 15 years?), but they are still very impressive (maybe the most impressive heli videos I saw). Maik Martin Spott schrieb: Oh man, this is one of the _really_ old MBB demo movies with the 'hot-and-high'-equipped BO105. I've seen that movie before, it must be at least 15 years old Cheers, Martin. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airport - facilities
Hi Darko, Darko Tasovac schrieb: Hi all, I've started to add airport facilities on some airports. I've finished almost everything but the airport name (http://www.airport-belgrade.co.yu/upload/images/galerije/eksterijer/velike/t2zgrukoso.JPG, http://www.airport-belgrade.co.yu/upload/images/galerije/eksterijer/velike/Aerodrom%20Beograd.jpg) I can not follow you. The two linked screenshots looks really good, nearly photorealistic. ;-) - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Performance on WIndows
Hi, I have on win (msvc express, with Olafs easy to use project files) on a P4M 2,2Ghz 1GB GeForce FX Go 5600 about half the frame rate with osg than with plib. The frame rate is so low (~10fps), that fg is not flyable (and without the plib branch it would be not possible, to check/improve FDMs), and that (if still persistent, when the plib branch is not any longer supported) would kick me out of the project. Plib shows with more graphics features (shadows) a much higher framerate. My opinion is, that we first have to find, where the performance get lost and than to think, where we can make use of things like multi core architectures (to fix 50% performance loss with a second core is not the best way ;-( ) My feeling is, that it will be a long stony way to get fg-osg to the same performance (on most systems) than fg-plib. Maik Frederic Bouvier schrieb: Quoting Vivian Meazza : Let's hope that you're correct. Right now we have _fewer_ features, and a _lower_ frame rate. I hope that adding back the features we used to have won't further reduce the frame rate, let alone adding new ones. We're in danger of limiting the use of FG to high end machines. I have a reasonable machine, with a FX6200 video card, and FG performance is barely acceptable under certain circumstances already. I hope the total freedom of using features given by OSG will encourage us to think about more clever ways to do things, that could be beneficial in the end. For instance, using multitexturing instead of cutting tiny triangle in the scenery to draw features such as road and steams. Or better use of multi core architectures ( which means multithreading ) that should be mainstream in a not so distant future. -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278/partner/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Performance on WIndows
Fred wrote: Selon Vivian Meazza : Yes, I saw you had fixed that, but that's the only one with that particular problem. Since it worked under plib, and AC3D didn't complain, I would never have worked that one out - thank you. If only the rest were that easy - the others seem to be keyboard/panel control problems, but I expect you read my earlier posting. Would you mind reminding me what are the current problems as detailed as you can so I can try to debug myself ? These are the bugs so far: Hurricane/Spitfire/Seafire won't start. The starter spins continuously, but the engine won't fire. A4F crashes FG, without any error message that I have found so far. Hunter and Seahawk have lost their exhausts (of course). The Engage Launch-bar command (L) is broken. The Mixture control (M/m) seems to be broken. The frame rate is well down - approximately 40-50% in like-for-like circumstances. The scenery is significantly darker than with plib with the same settings It would be fair to say that under osg pretty much everything is broken. And finally the someone nicked the sun it disappears from time to time - reset gets it back. Lot's of work there, but there are no indications of where the problems might lie, I'm afraid. And to which I can add: The radar in the KC-135E is also broken - but that is to be expected, and I expect that it will be fixed in due course. The transparency of the Seahawk gunsight causes the carrier wake to disappear. Masts are no longer visible in the scenery - but a transparent effect is visible if you look closely. I suspect the last 2 are an artefact of transparent object ordering in the environment. I don't think that the Launchbar problem is a keyboard issue Vivian - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend
Durk Talsma wrote: Okay, I promised some pictures now that my linux box is online again: http://durktalsma.xs4all.nl/FlightGear/fsweekend/web/ You know: The magic behind a smooth landing is a carefully prepared approach - this counts for the Eiffel Tower as well ;-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Performance on WIndows
Hi, I hope the total freedom of using features given by OSG will encourage us to think about more clever ways to do things, that could be beneficial in the end. Thanks Frederic. I too think, there are many things which can be improved considarably and which will lead to higher performance in the end, for everyone. Olaf - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] MSVC Linking trouble
Now I m stuck in the linking progress of FlightGear, there are some unresolved symbols and I dont know how to fix them: FlightgearLib.lib(auto_gui.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol public: void __thiscall puObject::setColourScheme(float,float,float,float) This symbol should have a virtual, for instance. Where are your plib header from? I would recomend http://www.oflebbe.de/oflebbe/FlightGear/plib.zip or recompile it yourself. Olaf - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG ac3d loader
Douglas Campos schrieb: Some of you (Olaf?) knows what is the acceptance status of ac3d loader patch from upstream mantainers? Mathias told me that he has not posted it to the OpenSceneGraph people. He is working to get it upstream before the 1.3 OSG release. Olaf - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] OSG Issues
Hi, I think it is better to collect all the problems and workarounds on a specific wiki page. I found out that there is alread a existing one, so I enhanced the OpenSceneGraph topic http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=OpenSceneGraph with known problems collected out of various emails. Please add your specific problem found here, since everyone is effectivly stalled when reading all the emails. IMHO the performance issue should have top prio. Cheers, Olaf - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Performance on WIndows
Hi, I think too that we have to support the plib branch quite a while. The idea to do the OSG switch in CVS head was that the OSG developers do not have the efforts for porting features from branch back to HEAD. So please work in the pre-OSG branch until the performance issue is solved. But please port changes back to mainline, when ready. IMHO I think users should stick with the branch, until many more issues are solved. Olaf - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG ac3d loader
thanks! On 11/6/06, Olaf Flebbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Douglas Campos schrieb: Some of you (Olaf?) knows what is the acceptance status of ac3d loader patch from upstream mantainers? Mathias told me that he has not posted it to the OpenSceneGraph people. He is working to get it upstream before the 1.3 OSG release. Olaf - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Issues
Olaf Flebbe wrote : I found out that there is alread a existing one, so I enhanced the OpenSceneGraph topic http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=OpenSceneGraph I'm currently setting up a list of working/segfaulting aircrafts (ac3d files problems), but I test only on a linux plateform. Does the ac3d related segfaults occure on windows too ? It could be merged with other aircraft related issues like Hurricane/Spitfire/Seafire engine issues. Alexis (xiii) - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?
Hi, Quote Olaf Flebbe: I think too that we have to support the plib branch quite a while. The idea to do the OSG switch in CVS head was that the OSG developers do not have the efforts for porting features from branch back to HEAD. So please work in the pre-OSG branch until the performance issue is solved. But please port changes back to mainline, when ready. IMHO I think users should stick with the branch, until many more issues are solved. That's the point. It will need some time, when the OSG is on the same level like plib. Why wasting time? I mean not to stop the work on OSG - far from it! But if we want FlightGear and OSG to get better we need users - and we get them only with a next release. And we need users because there a lot of things to do - work on the weather as an example, work on the different aircraft fdm's. The currently version is a good one with very few bugs. There are much improvements done since april. For me important: framerates are stable, the helicopter fdm is more realistic than MSFS's, nice route manager (could be the cutting edge for a FMS)- every day I'm flying with FG I got more fun. I would vote for a next release - a pre-OSG release! ;-) Greetz HHS ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Issues
alexis bory a écrit : Olaf Flebbe wrote : I found out that there is alread a existing one, so I enhanced the OpenSceneGraph topic http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=OpenSceneGraph I'm currently setting up a list of working/segfaulting aircrafts (ac3d files problems), but I test only on a linux plateform. Does the ac3d related segfaults occure on windows too ? Time to go to bed, I did test something like 30 aircrafts... there is still 50 to be tested ! http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=List_of_%27compatible%27_aircrafts#List_of_.27compatible.27_aicrafts the longuest is writing the result in the wiki... good night all ;) - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG question ...
Hi, Sorry for the late answer. I was out for the weekend ... On Thursday 02 November 2006 07:29, syd wrote: This is just a question to satisfy my curiosity , but what was the reason for choosing OpenSceneGraph over OpenSG ? The answer probably is obvious , just not to me ... I believe that this tells most of it ... http://www.openscenegraph.org/osgwiki/pmwiki.php/FAQ/FAQ#faq_03 Greetings Mathias - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Issues
On Monday 06 November 2006 23:46, Olaf Flebbe wrote: I think it is better to collect all the problems and workarounds on a specific wiki page. I found out that there is alread a existing one, so I enhanced the OpenSceneGraph topic http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=OpenSceneGraph with known problems collected out of various emails. Please add your specific problem found here, since everyone is effectivly stalled when reading all the emails. IMHO the performance issue should have top prio. Thanks! Greetings Mathias - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
This is legendary Russian aircraft. First flight was 1947. This is port of MSFS model by Anton Nikolaev aka Xomer. Published under GPL with his permission. Model have 8 livreas, original sound, full animated visual and complicate 2d panel. There is real flight manual, but only in Russian, sorry... Model need devel version of FGFS. There is precompiled Win32 binary of devel version from ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/, for you convience put to ftp://ftp.megasignal.com/pub/FlightGear/devel/ fgfs-win32-20061024.zip. Model: ftp://ftp.megasignal.com/pub/FlightGear/an2.tar.gz Warning! Total size: 18 Mb! -- Wbr, Yurik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] patch for groundcache.cxx problem
Hi Tim, On Monday 06 November 2006 10:59, Tim Moore wrote: I was seeing the problem of falling through the earth in w070n40. With this patch I can run successfully starting with --airport=kpqi. That is applied. That area needs to be overhauled anyway, but until than this problem is fixed! Thanks! Greetings Mathias - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Again: VATSIM and FlightGear?
Hi, On Monday 06 November 2006 09:45, Holger Wirtz wrote: How about this for the FlighGear community? If this is acceptable I would suggest that I try to contact VATSIM and will hear what they mean about this. From my point of view: yes. Greetings Mathias - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Performance on WIndows
On Sunday 05 November 2006 23:43, Olaf Flebbe wrote: Uncommenting sceneView-update() in render.cxx gives a performance jump from 60FPS to 80FPS. (plib was 100FPS). Traversing the scenegraph seems to be quite timing relevant. Can we limit this special update-traversal only to the aircraft (IMHO it is all it does)? The update traversal is important since it updates for example the animations. I know that this can be improved. I have ideas to do so, but my priorities are: 1. Getting the ac3d Loader in a release ready state to reach the scheduled osg 1.3 release. 2. Fix segfault bugs. 3. Improove performance. Greetings Mathias - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Performance on WIndows
On Monday 06 November 2006 11:23, Frederic Bouvier wrote: I hope the total freedom of using features given by OSG will encourage us to think about more clever ways to do things, that could be beneficial in the end. For instance, using multitexturing instead of cutting tiny triangle in the scenery to draw features such as road and steams. Or better use of multi core architectures ( which means multithreading ) that should be mainstream in a not so distant future. That is my impression to. And this is the reason why I started this work! I expect to get a much improoved flightgear in terms of performance and features in the next time. Greetings Mathias - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Performance on WIndows
On Monday 06 November 2006 13:17, Martin Spott wrote: Vivian Meazza wrote: Let's hope that you're correct. Right now we have _fewer_ features, and a _lower_ frame rate. I hope that adding back the features we used to have won't further reduce the frame rate, let alone adding new ones. Hey, guys, you're talking about a _development_ source code tree, don't forget about this!! It's funny to realize that people got used to have such a consistent and stable development tree that they already see the whole project at risk just because _real_ development is currently taking place :-) Mathias did a huge task to make the switch over to OSG actually happen. Apparently the next item on the TODO list is to remove the glitches of the port and do some fine tuning, afterwards to remove the dirty hacks that had been implemented in the PLIB version - and which are still present - and add them as a 'clean' solution to the OSG version. Don't feel to be looking at the dark side of the moon just because your field-glasses got dirty ;-) Thanks! Mathias - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Performance on WIndows
On Monday 06 November 2006 23:52, Olaf Flebbe wrote: I think too that we have to support the plib branch quite a while. The idea to do the OSG switch in CVS head was that the OSG developers do not have the efforts for porting features from branch back to HEAD. So please work in the pre-OSG branch until the performance issue is solved. But please port changes back to mainline, when ready. IMHO I think users should stick with the branch, until many more issues are solved. I would like to restrict that a bit. For bugfixes and non developers this might be a good idea. But please do not develop new features on the branch. I know how many problems this will give. And to be honest, Olaf I believe You know what I am talking about ... I will port changes that are checked in to the branch to HEAD as long as these are only bugfixes. Greetings Mathias - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Simgear-cvslogs] CVS: SimGear/simgear/math SGQuat.hxx, 1.11, 1.12
Selon Mathias Froehlich : Update of /var/cvs/SimGear-0.3/SimGear/simgear/math In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv15898/simgear/math Modified Files: SGQuat.hxx Log Message: Modified Files: simgear/scene/util/SGDebugDrawCallback.hxx simgear/math/SGQuat.hxx: Olaf Flebbe: Make it compile on some more win32 variants. Index: SGQuat.hxx === RCS file: /var/cvs/SimGear-0.3/SimGear/simgear/math/SGQuat.hxx,v retrieving revision 1.11 retrieving revision 1.12 diff -C 2 -r1.11 -r1.12 *** SGQuat.hxx1 Nov 2006 21:25:21 - 1.11 --- SGQuat.hxx7 Nov 2006 05:46:26 - 1.12 *** *** 27,30 --- 27,35 #endif + // for microsoft compiler + #ifdef _MSC_VER + #define copysign _copysign + #endif + #include osg/Quat This is redundant with a fix I already put in compiler.h -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278/partner/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] AIEntity.hxx:49: error: `ssgBranch' has not been declared
Selon Jason Cox : Hi all, i have just done an update via cvs today and have the following problem, make[2]: Entering directory `/DATA/src/Flightgear/Flightgear/src/ATC' if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src/Include -I../.. -I../../src -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT -MT atis.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/atis.Tpo -c -o atis.o atis.cxx; \ then mv -f .deps/atis.Tpo .deps/atis.Po; else rm -f .deps/atis.Tpo; exit 1; fi In file included from AIPlane.hxx:27, from tower.hxx:37, from ATCmgr.hxx:34, from atis.cxx:50: AIEntity.hxx:49: error: `ssgBranch' has not been declared AIEntity.hxx:49: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `model' with no type AIEntity.hxx:70: error: `ssgBranch' was not declared in this scope AIEntity.hxx:70: error: template argument 1 is invalid AIEntity.hxx:70: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `_model' with no type make[2]: *** [atis.o] Error 1 Build system is Gentoo Linux on ADM64 with lattest plib,simgear and flightgear i have also downloaded,built and install OSG has anyone seen or know of this problem ? It looks like your version of AIEntity.hxx is not up-to-date. There is no ssgBranch reference currently in that file. Maybe you mixed the plib branch with the OSG branch. Make sure you 'make install'ed the proper SimGear. -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278/partner/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] SimGear compile error: glXGetProcAddress((const
Hi Durk, Durk Talsma wrote: -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT -MT visual_enviro.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/visual_enviro.Tpo -c -o visual_enviro.o visual_enviro.cxx; \ then mv -f .deps/visual_enviro.Tpo .deps/visual_enviro.Po; else rm -f .deps/visual_enviro.Tpo; exit 1; fi In file included from ../../simgear/scene/sky/bbcache.hxx:29, from ../../simgear/scene/sky/newcloud.hxx:31, from visual_enviro.cxx:35: ../../simgear/screen/extensions.hxx: In function `void (* SGLookupFunction(const char*))()': ../../simgear/screen/extensions.hxx:74: error: `glXGetProcAddress' undeclared (first use this function) ../../simgear/screen/extensions.hxx:74: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) make[3]: *** [visual_enviro.o] Error 1 Mhhh, could you make sure your CVS tree is up to date and clean ? I did a build from yesterday evening's CVS on Linux with GCC-3.4 (Debian Sarge on AMD64; GCC-3.3 throws an ICE with current PLIB SVN) plus one this morning after Mathias' recent updates (rebuilding FlightGear on a dual-Opteron is not that much an issue ;-) - and in both cases I get a working binary. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
