Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-29 Thread Martin Spott
Georg Vollnhals wrote: > After my opinion, this increases reality fealing a lot - not only for a > rotary wing but also for coordinated flight, sidewind, slipping in a > fixed wing plane. (As they say, a Cessna pilot has to give up his lazy > pedal manners when coming back to an UL-plane) Wel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-29 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Maik Justus schrieb: > > Thank you very much. I bought an USB-gameport adapter, configured > flightgear as you described, and everything work fine. > > Maik > > > Nice to hear, Maik! After my opinion, this increases reality fealing a lot - not only for a rotary wing but also for coordinated

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-29 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Georg, Georg Vollnhals wrote: > Maik Justus schrieb: > >> Hi Georg, >> Georg Vollnhals wrote: >> >> >>> If your notebook has got 2 USB ports you might use an USB gameport >>> adaptor for the pedals like the one sold by Conrad Electronics for about >>> 15 EUR. >>> >> Yes it h

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-11 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Maik Justus schrieb: > Hi Georg, > Georg Vollnhals wrote: > >> If your notebook has got 2 USB ports you might use an USB gameport >> adaptor for the pedals like the one sold by Conrad Electronics for about >> 15 EUR. >> >> > Yes it has. Do you know, if flightgear supports two joysticks

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo 105 flightmodell ?

2006-08-11 Thread Josh Babcock
Maik Justus wrote: > I think, the most important thing is a joystick without springs. Maybe > some friction would help as well. It must not be an expensive one. My I agree. I cut down the centering spring on my Cyborg-3D and it feels much nicer now. Josh --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Maik Justus -- Friday 11 August 2006 21:37: > Do you know, if flightgear supports two joysticks at one time? Up to 2 on Windows, and up to 10 everywhere else. But this is a FlightGear definition -- I'm not sure if plib can't do more now. #ifdef WIN32 MAX_JOYSTICKS = 2, #else MAX_JOY

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-11 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Georg, Georg Vollnhals wrote: > If your notebook has got 2 USB ports you might use an USB gameport > adaptor for the pedals like the one sold by Conrad Electronics for about > 15 EUR. > Yes it has. Do you know, if flightgear supports two joysticks at one time? Maik --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-11 Thread Maik Justus
Hi, Martin Spott schrieb: > Andy Ross wrote: > > >> real helicopters are flown (well, hovered at least) with very small >> control motions [...] >> > > Absolutely. In fact, flying an aircraft with fixed wings doesn't make > significant difference in these terms - the fixed-wing aircraft is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-11 Thread Maik Justus
Martin Spott schrieb: Hi, > When dreams come true [...]. > The last helicopter with reasonable sink rate was my model heli I had > at school time. It had a _very_ reasonable sink rate for a > helicopter, where the engine stops turning due to - as I guess - snow in > the carburator ;-) > I've

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-11 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Maik Justus schrieb: > > I have good pedals, but I don't use them since 3 years, because my > notebook has no gameport. I am using a sidewinder, its "pedals" are not > very accurate, but it's ok. > > Maik > > If your notebook has got 2 USB ports you might use an USB gameport adaptor for the p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo 105 flightmodell ?

2006-08-11 Thread Maik Justus
Hi, Heiko Schulz schrieb: > Hi, > > Well...h I'm thinking about if this is the > right way. > > I think, the most important thing is a joystick without springs. Maybe some friction would help as well. It must not be an expensive one. My aim is a Flight model, which is as realistic as p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-11 Thread Maik Justus
Hi, Heiko Schulz schrieb: > Well, you need a good card and a high RAM - no low > cost. > Hm, I am using a 3 year old notebook and have a framerate of about 30 frames/s at 1280x1024, with all details on (I think). I don't think, that you need a very expensive card. > And, Justus said it before:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo 105 flightmodell ?

2006-08-11 Thread Maik Justus
Hi, Melchior FRANZ schrieb: > * Maik Justus -- Thursday 10 August 2006 21:51: > * > Heiko Schulz schrieb: > >>> Is the new flightmodel more precise to fly? >>> >> Depends on the definition of "precise". It is more real, but it is not >> easier to fly precise. >> > > Not easier, bu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-11 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > [...] Because > of the faster sink rate, it's IMHO easier to land precisely -- you > don't have to fly in circles just to come down. When dreams come true [...]. The last helicopter with reasonable sink rate was my model heli I had at school time. It had a _very_ reasonabl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-11 Thread Martin Spott
Andy Ross wrote: > real helicopters are flown (well, hovered at least) with very small > control motions [...] Absolutely. In fact, flying an aircraft with fixed wings doesn't make significant difference in these terms - the fixed-wing aircraft is just a bit more forgiving if you make mistakes wh

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-11 Thread Martin Spott
Heiko Schulz wrote: > Yes, and quote:" > > The only relation that I can think of is when frame rates drop soo low > > that you update the controls more often than you see a new frame > > but in this case controlling _every_ aircraft becomes difficult ;-)" > Well, you need a good card and a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo 105 flightmodell ?

2006-08-11 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, sounds great! O.k. not harder sounds so good like nothing else! Greetings HHS --- Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > * Maik Justus -- Thursday 10 August 2006 21:51: > * > Heiko Schulz schrieb: > > > Is the new flightmodel more precise to fly? > > Depends on the definition of "

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-11 Thread Martin Spott
Anders Gidenstam wrote: > You have a point there. Perhaps one could augment the Bo 105 with an > optional supporting autopilot/regulator for the tail rotor (regardless of > whether the real thing has such a thing or not, and sort of like the > auto-coordination option for fixed wing aircraft), [

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-11 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Friday 11 August 2006 17:17, Heiko Schulz wrote: > Well, you need a good card and a high RAM - no low > cost. You need a _reasonable_ card and _reasonable_ amount of RAM. We're not talking supercomputers here... > And, Justus said it before: a good stick and pedals... > And they aren't cheap

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo 105 flightmodell ?

2006-08-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Maik Justus -- Thursday 10 August 2006 21:51: * > Heiko Schulz schrieb: > > Is the new flightmodel more precise to fly? > Depends on the definition of "precise". It is more real, but it is not > easier to fly precise. Not easier, but IMHO not harder either. The first patch releases made it *a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-11 Thread Stefan Seifert
Heiko Schulz wrote: > It should be possible learning to fly a realistic > flightmodel of a helicopter with the mouse. > Well it is already. When I first tried the bo105 it was on my notebook with mouse and keyboard. It ain't easy, but it's certainly possible. Of course it's much more fun on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-11 Thread Andy Ross
Heiko Schulz wrote: > It should be possible learning to fly a realistic flightmodel of a > helicopter with the mouse. If that were true, wouldn't helicopters have, y'know, mice? Sorry, but there is a natural tension between "realism" and "ease of use". For the case of helicopters specifically, i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-11 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, Yes, and quote:"> The only relation that I can think of is when frame > rates drop soo low > that you update the controls more often than you see > a new frame > but in this case controlling _every_ aircraft > becomes difficult ;-)" Well, you need a good card and a high RAM - no low co

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo

2006-08-11 Thread Martin Spott
Heiko Schulz wrote: > By the way: the advantages of helicopters is to land > on small faces - you need training but in the real > world are thousends of pilots who are doing this every > day, hours for hours. > > I think it should be possible for users to do this > without expensive hardware or i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo 105 flightmodell ?

2006-08-11 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Heiko Schulz wrote: > Hi, > > Well...h I'm thinking about if this is the > right way. > > More realism is good, very good. But too much realism, > so that you can't fly without very expensive hardware, > is probably damaging the "Project Flightgear" > > It's now really

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo 105 flightmodell ?

2006-08-11 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, Well...h I'm thinking about if this is the right way. More realism is good, very good. But too much realism, so that you can't fly without very expensive hardware, is probably damaging the "Project Flightgear" It's now really hard to fly the Bo 105 and that's something which new user

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo 105 flightmodell ?

2006-08-10 Thread Maik Justus
Hi, Heiko Schulz schrieb: > Hi, > > O.k. I understand now slowly... > > Is the new flightmodel more precise to fly? Depends on the definition of "precise". It is more real, but it is not easier to fly precise. Just a question of training and hardware. Using pedals and a very good Stick should he

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo 105 flightmodell ?

2006-08-10 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, O.k. I understand now slowly... Is the new flightmodel more precise to fly? Still with some training its too difficult to fly - a precise landing is a real lucky thing! Thanx Greetings HHS --- Maik Justus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Hi Heiko > Heiko Schulz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Are yo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo 105 flightmodell ?

2006-08-10 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Heiko Heiko Schulz wrote: > Hi, > > Are you sure? > > If I'm flying, the fuselage rotate in the same > direction like the rotor. I have to push the right > virtuel pedal in the Bo 105, but in the real world it > has to be the left. > > If I'm not doing anything, the fuslage is turning with > r

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo 105 flightmodell ?

2006-08-10 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, Are you sure? If I'm flying, the fuselage rotate in the same direction like the rotor. I have to push the right virtuel pedal in the Bo 105, but in the real world it has to be the left. If I'm not doing anything, the fuslage is turning with rotor - that it shoulden't be! Greetings HHS Hi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo 105 flightmodell ?

2006-08-10 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Heiko Schulz -- Thursday 10 August 2006 18:28: > The rotor on the Bo 105 is rotating anti-clockwise - > so the fuselage has to rotate clockwise. Right? Yes. And that's what it does. Just comment out the tail rotor in $FG_ROOT/Aircraft/bo105/bo105.xml and see. > But why is the Bo 105 rotating

[Flightgear-devel] Question: Is there a big mistake on the Bo 105 flightmodell ?

2006-08-10 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, I have a question, maybe a very stupid one: The rotor on the Bo 105 is rotating anti-clockwise - so the fuselage has to rotate clockwise. Right? But why is the Bo 105 rotating in the same direction the rotor is rotating? A bug? Or is there anything which I didn't understand? Greetings HHS