Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Selon Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]: (-0.25 * math::pow(rpm_norm,3)) + (-0.15 * math::pow(rpm_norm,2)) + (1.11 * rpm_norm); Whereas this one is just really obviously a polynomial, and I understand polynomials, they're simple and not scary at all: rpm_norm * (1.11 - rpm_norm * (0.15 *

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Friday 22 April 2005 01:46, Norman Vine wrote: Andy Ross writes: Vivian Meazza wrote: I used the power form because it is easier to read, but if the other form produces a performance advantage, then of course we must use it. It's actually not so much about performance, really.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Andy Ross wrote: Vivian Meazza wrote: I used the power form because it is easier to read, but if the other form produces a performance advantage, then of course we must use it. It's actually not so much about performance, really. Readability can mean different things. The problem is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another fgfs enabled rating!

2005-04-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Dave Perry wrote: I passed my instrument rating oral and practical (check ride) this afternoon. Five hours including the oral and ride. Boy was I glad I had done many approaches with the turbulence turned up as all the approaches were in moderate turbulence today with 20 gust to 35 kts and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another fgfs enabled rating!

2005-04-22 Thread Martin Spott
Dave Perry wrote: I passed my instrument rating oral and practical (check ride) this afternoon. Five hours including the oral and ride. Wow, this is great. Hmmm, I feel I'm getting envious ;-) [...] The examiner said I did an outstanding job given the conditions. I flelt like I was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Andy Ross
Vivian Meazza wrote: y = -0.25x3 + 0.15x2 + 1.11x Thinking about the over-speed situation overnight, the Merlin was allowed to go to 3600 rpm for brief periods, and even then damage to the engine was possible. This is a normalised value of 1.2. The K Series will go to 9000 (don't try this on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AIManager and AIBase

2005-04-22 Thread Dave Culp
I intend to use FG as a viewer. I have an application that manipulate aircrafts, boats and more, and I'd like to see them living in a 3D world. I saw that in FG there is an AIManager that can do what I want. If I've understood its function, it manipulates AIBase objects which have a position

[Flightgear-devel] AIManager and AIBase

2005-04-22 Thread BONNEVILLE David
Hi people, I intend to use FG as a viewer. I have an application that manipulate aircrafts, boats and more, and I'd like to see them living in a 3D world. I saw that in FG there is an AIManager that can do what I want. If I've understood its function, it manipulates AIBase objects which have a

RE: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Andy Ross: If you do mean this equation then I can certainly live with that. If not, I'll need to put my thinking cap on ... I've updated the graphical representation here: Remind me again which one of these is the real engine data, and what the source is? The only line on this graph

[Flightgear-devel] Fun with Nasal

2005-04-22 Thread Andy Ross
Heh, it's been a fun day. I woke up with one of those great insights where you realize that something you thought was difficult just isn't. In this case, it was the lack of += syntax (and -=, *=, /= and ~= of course) in Nasal. They're checked in now. I also threw in a forindex(i; list) loop

[Flightgear-devel] Fun with Nasal (II)

2005-04-22 Thread Andy Ross
I wrote: Finally, there's now a slight esoteric bind() function Which sounds weird, I know. But here's an application: Languages like Perl and Ruby have a really useful syntax (which they got from the shell) for interpolating variables into strings, so that for simple output you don't have to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Andy Ross
Drew wrote: IMHO, it's best to use interpolation tables rather than equations if you're trying to curve fit empirical data. Not in this context. The data here isn't being used to model a specific engine, but to provide sane parameters for all (super/turbochared) engines. The performance and

RE: [Flightgear-devel] AIManager and AIBase

2005-04-22 Thread Norman Vine
Not sure if I have pointed this out before or not http://www.cert.fr/CERTI/ Currently Unix only but HLA would make a great addition to FGFS Norman ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org

RE: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Andy Ross wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flightgear-devel- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sent: 22 April 2005 15:19 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues Vivian Meazza wrote: y = -0.25x3

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Drew
The real data is series 1, but only up to rpm-normalised = 1. For values above 1, it's just a continuation by eye of the data. (See http://www.turbotechnics.com/supercharger/expo.htm Note that max power is at 6500 rpm, and that the supercharger output is nearly flat at 7000 rpm.) I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Drew
Yeah, that's something that could be a project in itself. There are a few ways to do tables that I know of. JSBSim does gridded tables up to three independent variables. I'd like to extend that to ungridded tables of n dimensions. Maybe there's an algorithm around somewhere for that. I

RE: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Jon Berndt
Probably several. YASim has one for doing interpolation of standard atmosphere parameters, and I'm sure there's a similar engine in the JSBSim code, which depends on tables extensively in its configuration. Yeah, that's something that could be a project in itself. There are a few ways to do

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Another fgfs enabled rating!

2005-04-22 Thread Adam Dershowitz
Dave, Congrats! The instrument rating is a particularly difficult rating, but is also a very useful rating to have. Martin: Yes, in the US it is often done in single engine airplanes. There is a lot of single engine IFR flying here, so the rating is very useful on its own, rather than as a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another fgfs enabled rating!

2005-04-22 Thread Thomas Förster
Am Freitag 22 April 2005 05:07 schrieb Dave Perry: I passed my instrument rating oral and practical (check ride) this afternoon. Five hours including the oral and ride. Congratulations Dave. Thanks to the entire FlightGear team for a great simulator with real world applicability! I really

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another fgfs enabled rating!

2005-04-22 Thread Martin Spott
Adam Dershowitz wrote: Martin: Yes, in the US it is often done in single engine airplanes. There is a lot of single engine IFR flying here, so the rating is very useful on its own, rather than as a step to other ratings. It really increases the utility of a airplane greatly when a few

RE: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Jon Berndt
It's nice to be able to have backout routines for interpolation tables, as well, which can be extremely helpful in initialization code. For tables up to 3d with fixed independent indices (is this what you meant by 'grid', or did you mean fixed intervals?), this is pretty straightforward.