On October 22, 2004 04:41 am, Boris Koenig wrote:
well, functionally - pretty much yes I'd say, visually certainly not -
while I personally don't really like that fancy stuff - to be honest,
I usually don't even cope with it in the first place, I know some
applications (also flight simulators
On October 21, 2004 04:49 pm, C Sanjayan Rosenmund wrote:
Someone mentioned the ability of installing and uninstalling aircraft,
and possibly loading them as modules. This brought up (for me) the idea
of moving back the starting point when the program loads. Instead of
starting in the aircraft
One of the problems, as I pointed out earlier, is that the download size of
the base package is a bit on the huge size. Including all aircrafts into an
already big download will not be a good idea. So, the best option will still
be removing all the work-in-progress aircrafts from the base
Hi everybody !
Sorry to bring this up again - Just catching up on the hundreds of
postings on both lists ... and I wanted to add the following:
Jon Berndt wrote:
Yes, I've made an attempt in the JSBSim config file format to include a done-ness
specifier for the FDM:
Beta, Alpha, Release,
Andreas wrote:
--prop:/environment/params/real-world-weather-fetch=true
These oscillations can happen when new weather is fetched. I would
urge to try without this option and then report back.
Ok.
BTW, is there an option to make flightgear output the whole flight to a
file so that you could
There was a push for a while to produce a newsletter, but it's more work
than you'd think. Good layout tools for a nice looking newsletter seem
to be proprietary. We had two people working on a first newsletter
issue, but that seemed to fall through. Basically, it's a *lot* of
work. A
Shucks ... I can't get FG running again (keeps aborting on joystick bindings)
but I was getting the yaw oscillations at about 2000 feet in level flight at
about 250 knots (clean configuration).
When I manage to get FG running again I'll set up a proper problem scenario.
Paul
On Saturday, 16
David Culp wrote:
I see that too. The condition is nothing special actually. Just fly
level and try a left turn. In my case, the nose will first go the right
and then the aircraft will start turning left. Almost like the left bank
caused a right rudder reaction for a while.
I can't reproduce
Andreas wrote:
It's the one from the 0.9.6 base package. Attached.
I just flew it and I could reproduce it, but not always. My conditions
were:
- straight flight
- 34000 feet of altitude
- 290 knots airspeed
- mach 0.85
A little left bank was preceeded by a right one.
Also, the vertical speed
--prop:/environment/params/real-world-weather-fetch=true
These oscillations can happen when new weather is fetched. I would urge
to try without this option and then report back.
Ok.
BTW, is there an option to make flightgear output the whole flight to a
file so that you could take a look at it
Does someone have a list of flyable aircraft for FlightGear?
About the only aircraft that handles in a realistic way is the 172.
What I would love to see done is all the incomplete aircraft stripped out of
FlightGear. It leaves a sour taste in one's mouth when you try all the
aircraft and just
Paul Surgeon wrote:
Does someone have a list of flyable aircraft for FlightGear?
About the only aircraft that handles in a realistic way is the 172.
I once tried to come up with a table listing what worked and what didn't
work on all aircrafts, but gave up.
What I would love to see done is all
David Megginson wrote:
impressed by any of the jets and panels in MSFS or Fly!), and if they
make the jets realistic, the potential pool of users who could
actually handle them will be small -- the sad irony is that the better
they do, the more complaints they'll get. We already have trouble
with
David Megginson wrote:
The C-172p (which you mentioned) and PA-28-161 handle very accurately.
The C-310 is flyable, if a little klunky. The J3 Cub works well, as
the the Wright Flyer (it's almost unflyable, but so is the real
thing). The DC-3 is usable, if not entirely realistic -- the main
David Megginson wrote:
The C-172p (which you mentioned) and PA-28-161 handle very accurately.
The C-310 is flyable, if a little klunky. The J3 Cub works well, as
the the Wright Flyer (it's almost unflyable, but so is the real
thing). The DC-3 is usable, if not entirely realistic -- the main
On 16 Oct 2004 at 11:28, Andreas wrote:
So, are you saying that all planes that behave in an odd way are
actually modelled correctly? Can this be said about version 0.9.6, for
example?
If not, then the point is to move those planes that are still work in
progress to somewhere else, like
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 09:59:09 -0400, David wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 06:50:39 -0700, Stewart Andreason
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For the rest of us, it would be nice to be able to set an option to
tone down the propeller effects...
I sincerely hope that
David Megginson wrote:
Remember that no plane will fly straight and level indefinitely with
your hands off the controls, and many planes will need a lot of input
to track the centreline during the takeoff roll -- these are features
that we worked hard to add, not bugs that we need to fix.
Good, I
Jon Berndt wrote:
Yes, I've made an attempt in the JSBSim config file format to include a done-ness
specifier for the FDM:
Would this be really needed? A simple README would suffice I think.
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louis holleman wrote:
I recently had a discussion here about odd behaviour of several planes, including the
172 1981 model which still is about the only one that I can enjoy in my FGFS. People
mentioned the torque effects, and I got it about under control, but despite that it's still
the only
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 16:36:40 -0500, David Culp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You CAN help. Can you start by describing the flight condition that leads to
the yaw oscillation? I'll need to reproduce this same flight condition so I
can see what's happening first.
I'm speaking from near-ignorance
David Culp wrote:
You CAN help. Can you start by describing the flight condition that leads to
the yaw oscillation? I'll need to reproduce this same flight condition so I
can see what's happening first.
Right now I don't see the oscillation.
I see that too. The condition is nothing special
You CAN help. Can you start by describing the flight condition that
leads to the yaw oscillation? I'll need to reproduce this same flight
condition so I can see what's happening first.
I'm speaking from near-ignorance because I have zero experience with
transport jets, but don't they
I see that too. The condition is nothing special actually. Just fly
level and try a left turn. In my case, the nose will first go the right
and then the aircraft will start turning left. Almost like the left bank
caused a right rudder reaction for a while.
I can't reproduce that. Can you
On 16 Oct 2004 at 14:05, Andreas wrote:
I'm not claiming to be a real pilot: I'm not. I can accept this kind of
behaviour for the c172 since I've never even been in one. If pilots say
this is the way it behaves, I accept it.
Neither am I. I don't have probs with a/c simulating torque
The 737 is a really nice piece of work but the FDM needs a little tweaking.
It gets into a strange yaw oscillation under nearly any circumstance that
gets really annoying after a few minutes. :)
I really wish I could help out with some of the aircraft but getting info
is really difficult
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