Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Peter B. West
Victor Mote wrote: We're OK. I caught your irony. My response was really entirely to Oleg's question. However, I really was concerned about offending someone -- things like names and logos carry a certain emotional weight. In other words, I might worry about offending some on this list, but it r

RE: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Victor Mote
Peter B. West wrote: > Re my comment on this, I thought I should warn you that I am addicted to > ironical jokes, which can be a dangerous habit with email. I dislike > emoticons, probably because I am more of a snob than I like to admit, > but also because they seem to me to discourage any attem

Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Peter B. West
Victor Mote wrote: It must be a cultural thing. The dictionary definition you gave should tell the story well enough -- see the example "felt contempt for the mincing ...". The word is a pejorative, but perhaps more so in my part of the world, where calling someone a "fop" or a "dandy" might be f

Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Bernd Brandstetter
On Monday 13 January 2003 11:05, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > On 12.01.2003 11:40:57 Bernd Brandstetter wrote: > > After having tried to understand how fop works by just reading the > > code for a couple of hours now, FOrtress inevitably comes to my mind > > ;-) (in the sense of: Not easy to get in, at

RE: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Victor Mote
Oleg Tkachenko wrote: > I like it. First of all "FOP" is well-known among the whole xml > community for ages (what costs much) and secondly "fop" word has a Yes, this is the primary consideration. The only reason why I mention it now at all is that changing such things is always better done soone

Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 12.01.2003 04:59:36 Jeff Turner wrote: > On Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 05:43:37PM +0100, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > > Hi Jeff > > > > I've applied your patches locally. Thanks. Everything's ok with the > > first one, but with the second one I'm having problems (not your fault!): > > - I had to add adj

Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 12.01.2003 11:40:57 Bernd Brandstetter wrote: > After having tried to understand how fop works by just reading the code for > a couple of hours now, FOrtress inevitably comes to my mind ;-) > (in the sense of: Not easy to get in, at least for a newbie) :-) Unfortunately, Fortress is already t

Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-12 Thread Bernd Brandstetter
On Saturday 11 January 2003 20:13, Victor Mote wrote: > Jeremias Maerki wrote: > > - Do we like our current logo? :-) > > I hope I am not out of line to ask an even more fundamental question -- > do we like our current name? I never have a problem writing it, but when > speaking it, I cannot make m

Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-11 Thread Jeff Turner
On Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 05:43:37PM +0100, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > Hi Jeff > > I've applied your patches locally. Thanks. Everything's ok with the > first one, but with the second one I'm having problems (not your fault!): > - I had to add adjust the inline DTD of skinconf.xml to include the role

Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-11 Thread Peter B. West
Victor Mote wrote: Jeremias Maerki wrote: - Do we like our current logo? :-) I hope I am not out of line to ask an even more fundamental question -- do we like our current name? I never have a problem writing it, but when speaking it, I cannot make my mouth say "fop", but invariably say "eff

Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-11 Thread Oleg Tkachenko
Victor Mote wrote: I hope I am not out of line to ask an even more fundamental question -- do we like our current name? I like it. First of all "FOP" is well-known among the whole xml community for ages (what costs much) and secondly "fop" word has a meaning itself wrt eXtensible stylesheet la

the logo (Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix)

2003-01-11 Thread Oleg Tkachenko
J.Pietschmann wrote: What about a TeX-parody? +--- +--\ | | | +-- /--\ +--/ | || | | || | || \--/ Not bad, but what does it mean? (And does logo should mean anything?) :) Colored as the current logo, or more in shades like the Apache feather?

Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-11 Thread J.Pietschmann
Oleg Tkachenko wrote: Jeremias Maerki wrote: - Do we like our current logo? :-) Uh! Should admit I spent a couple of hours trying to implement my ideas about the logo (leading motifs were medieval typographic dropcaps and a parrot as (imho) the most foppish animal) but I'm too bad artist an

Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-11 Thread Oleg Tkachenko
Jeremias Maerki wrote: - Do we like our current logo? :-) That's a big question actually :) afair Keiron said the current logo should be at least brighten to fit forrest-ed site design better or suggested to make the logo contest. Should admit I spent a couple of hours trying to implement my

Re: [PATCH] doc validation fix

2003-01-11 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Hi Jeff I've applied your patches locally. Thanks. Everything's ok with the first one, but with the second one I'm having problems (not your fault!): - I had to add adjust the inline DTD of skinconf.xml to include the role attribute: - The credit element produces a rather ugly FOP logo. Bu