Re: [Foundation-l] Improving Wikipedia Information graphics

2012-04-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Steven Walling, 06/04/2012 00:39: These are fantastic. I don't see them on (EN) articles or Commons yet, though it's easy to miss... do the students need help uploading etc? All those images are hotlinked from Commons, or are we talking about different things? Some of them are in articles

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-03 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Samuel Klein, 03/04/2012 06:40: - a global list of areas needing free knowledge, and how far we are as a society towards reaching that goal We had started a stub table about this: https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_that_need_to_be_free Nemo

[Foundation-l] We've figured out fundraising

2012-04-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
This is something I've hard multiple times, and it always reminds me this unsettling graph: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Surexploitation_morue_surp%C3%AAcheEn.jpg [1] I'm quite sure fishermen thought they had fugured out cod fishing in the end of the 60s, but only a couple years

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 96, Issue 95

2012-04-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
phoebe ayers, 01/04/2012 07:49: In the meantime, if there are any questions for us (as a board) or for individual trustees I encourage you simply to send those along, either to me (if you want them to go to the whole board, as I will pass them along) or privately. That would help make sure that

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolutions from March 30th 2012

2012-03-31 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
John Vandenberg, 31/03/2012 06:56: On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Thomas Daltonthomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 March 2012 02:03, John Vandenbergjay...@gmail.com wrote: I expect that the minutes will explain the varied positions of the board. If not, then the board should put in

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 96, Issue 95

2012-03-31 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Craig Franklin, 31/03/2012 23:20: For the record, those who did not vote in favour of the resolutions, this morning explained their reasons for doing so. I'm sure someone more eloquent than I can summarise those reasons, but I think that they were valid. John Vandenberg is correct that if

Re: [Foundation-l] resolution on voting transparency

2012-03-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
phoebe ayers, 30/03/2012 14:03: During the Board of Trustees meeting today we passed a resolution on Trustee voting transparency: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Board_of_Trustees_Voting_Transparency asking that in future resolutions we publish the names of trustees with their

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolutions from March 30th 2012

2012-03-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Michael Peel, 30/03/2012 23:52: On voting transparency: this is a great step forward. However, I would encourage the WMF to take a further step, and to explain why trustees voted approve/abstain/against. +1 (as on the other topic). I hope this will done, at least for this particular

Re: [Foundation-l] Draft charter of the Wikimedia Chapters Association

2012-03-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Nathan, 18/03/2012 20:47: So a group of chapters, reacting against a perceived effort to centralize the movement, create a brand new central body with an extensive (and apparently, expensive) bureaucracy? Are there really a lot of people that think this is a good idea? Yes because it is. And

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Samuel Klein, 14/03/2012 03:00: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanterpute...@mccme.ru wrote: No, I think there were only like three big universal encyclopaedias still being printed (Britannica, Brockhaus, and Russian Encyclopaedia?), unless I am confusing things. There's

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia financials - bank fees

2012-03-11 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
It would also be interesting to understand why everyone (for reimbursements, grants, scholarships etc.) is required to send and receive money to/from the USA bank or PayPal accounts although there is an EU bank account and bank transfers within EU are mostly free, while PayPal has very high

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia domains, SOPA, Godaddy and MarkMonitor

2012-03-10 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Michael Peel, 10/03/2012 21:54: I'm all in favour of moving the Wikimedia domain names from GoDaddy to MarkMonitor (and, tbh, I'm rather puzzled by why the WMF decided to use GoDaddy in the first place), I'm just rather puzzled by your statements here. The official blog post says that «the

Re: [Foundation-l] Author Wikimedia Foundation at BarnesNobles shop on Nook

2012-03-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
John Vandenberg, 06/03/2012 10:23: The problem isnt that they are providing ebooks, but 1. they are By Wikimedia Foundation http://www.barnesandnoble.com/c/wikimedia-foundation 2. they are poor quality, or dont work The second is their problem, but the first is clearly untrue and

[Foundation-l] [SOPA etc.] [FSF] Fwd: Blood in the water: Brett Smith reports from the latest Trans-Pacific Partnership Stakeholder Forum

2012-03-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Seems worth a forward given that it mentions the SOPA protest as one of the main causes for a better acceptance of sensible copyright lobby (true or not?). Nemo Messaggio originale Oggetto:Blood in the water: Brett Smith reports from the latest Trans-Pacific

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapter Selected Board Seats - Time for questions

2012-03-03 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Michael Peel, 03/03/2012 22:56: If I'm wrong here, then I would really welcome corrections. But I really don't like that the requirement of keeping the decisions made by this this process is being put on the Wikimedia chapters rather than the Wikimedia Foundation. It may be that this issue

Re: [Foundation-l] Anti-ACTA protest tomorrow in Belgrade and blackout of Serbian Wikipedia

2012-02-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Nathan, 24/02/2012 18:13: It's really unfortunate that blacking out Wikimedia projects is becoming an accepted method of protest. Maybe we should start keeping track of how often different projects are blacked out, and for what purpose. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Project-wide_protests

Re: [Foundation-l] English Wikipedia considering declaring open-season on works from countries lacking US copyright relations

2012-02-22 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Nathan, 22/02/2012 18:38: Thanks for the heads up, Robert. This boils down to a fairly simple question for me - do I want to participate in the political disenfranchisement of Iranian (and other) authors and photographers? They have few rights of political participation in their own nations, and

Re: [Foundation-l] English Wikipedia considering declaring open-season on works from countries lacking US copyright relations

2012-02-22 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Nathan, 22/02/2012 19:27: In a moral sense, if we treat authors poorly because they live in a country where they are treated poorly, not only are we reinforcing that poor treatment - we are benefiting from their disadvantage. If Iranian authors were from any other of the vast majority of Berne

Re: [Foundation-l] English Wikipedia considering declaring open-season on works from countries lacking US copyright relations

2012-02-22 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Nathan, 23/02/2012 01:33: Don't forget - while I used Iran as an example, it isn't the only country affected. Of course, but Iran is the case which worries more, I think; and the first paragraph of my set of questions still applies. ;-) Nemo ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-19 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, 19/02/2012 08:12: Do the people at MeatballWiki know? Why should they care? I don't know if this has already been mentioned somewhere: http://googlepolicyeurope.blogspot.com/2012/02/our-thoughts-on-right-to-be-forgotten.html It's a very cautious comment I think. Nemo

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-11 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Risker, 11/02/2012 18:45: The greatest challenge with the entire notion of vanishing is that it is intended to be permanent. That is, the person who wants to vanish should not return in the future, under any guise. [...] I don't think it's useful to discuss this. It's certainly not to the

Re: [Foundation-l] Strike against the collection of personal data through edit links

2012-02-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thomas Dalton, 04/02/2012 15:05: On 4 February 2012 13:57, Teofiloteofilow...@gmail.com wrote: Strike against the collection of personal data through edit links I have started a strike to protest against the collection of personal information through edit links. I won't edit articles with

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

2012-02-03 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Theo10011, 02/02/2012 00:36: On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Risker wrote: The appointed members of the Board are chosen for their specific expertise and skill-set. The Board does publicly identify the slots it is trying to fill when looking for appointees, and the qualifications that they

Re: [Foundation-l] ACTA analysis?

2012-01-25 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Tomasz Ganicz, 25/01/2012 09:22: I don't know if there is manpower for this - but it would be great if the analysis covers also impact of ACTA on EU law and EU related Wikipedias (those which have majority of editors from EU countries). In case of EU - there is slightly more time -than for US.

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikisource-l] Fwd: ACTA analysis?

2012-01-25 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Klaus Graf, 25/01/2012 13:11: I think there is a much more important issue we should discuss. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/All_files_copyrighted_in_the_US_under_the_URAA The US-centric WS may neglect it because there is widespread opinion that human beeings can

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikisource-l] Fwd: ACTA analysis?

2012-01-25 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Klaus Graf, 25/01/2012 14:00: The law counsel recommandation of 2007 wasn't communicated to the other WS and WE SHOULD IGNORE IT. It's clear that WMF has NOW to say what is possible in the light of the Supreme Court Decision - regarding Commons and the other WMF projects. This is a clear issue

Re: [Foundation-l] Waste of money, Wikipediacentrism. - Brazil

2012-01-25 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Steven Walling, 25/01/2012 19:33: We want this to be very different than past staff meetups or interviews that have happened in Brazil. We are not interested in the university program, the chapter, the Brazil office, or the fundraiser. That is not what Maryana and I do in the movement. We only

Re: [Foundation-l] Policies on wikimediafoundation.org

2012-01-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
MZMcBride, 21/01/2012 01:19: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Policies#Policies lists policies of the Wikimedia Foundation. Would it make sense to sub-divide these policies into sub-lists? It seems very strange to place all of these policies next to each other in a single list. I thought

Re: [Foundation-l] FW: [Wikitech-l] proposed tech conference anti-harassment policy

2012-01-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
MZMcBride, 21/01/2012 23:32: Sumana Harihareswara wrote: Thanks to all of you for your feedback on this. We've now finalized the policy and it now lives at https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Friendly_space_policy I don't think the Volunteer Development Coordinator (or any Wikimedia

Re: [Foundation-l] FW: [Wikitech-l] proposed tech conference anti-harassment policy

2012-01-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Mr. Gregory Varnum, 22/01/2012 00:33: MZMcBride - I guess I'm unclear what the purpose of this thread is. Just a FYI or are you asking for something specific to be done? I'm not sure how you got confused about its scope given the listserv you forwarded this from which outlined all this in

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] English Wikipedia to go dark January 18 in opposition to SOPA/PIPA

2012-01-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
emijrp, 17/01/2012 22:11: The Italian bill was not removed, the vote was just delayed. So, if any, I see a poor effect here after compromising our goals. What do you mean? There's no way to remove a proposed law, here. And it will surely not be approved, like tons of other proposed laws

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] (PRESS RELEASE) Wikipedia blackout affirms overwhelming support for free and open Internet

2012-01-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jay Walsh, 19/01/2012 07:05: The protest drew worldwide attention to SOPA and PIPA, legislation that had previously been cast as a battle between powerful corporate interests I don't know elsewhere, but here in Italy this doesn't seem to have changed, Wikipedia and Google are put in the same

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout notice errors (English Wikipedia)

2012-01-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bastien Guerry, 18/01/2012 10:23: Zugravu Gheorghezugravu.gheor...@gmail.com writes: apparently if you disable java in your browser - you have normal access to en:wp! Or if you click on the stop loading button of your browser soon enough: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_-Rf-VKHY8

Re: [Foundation-l] Canadian consultation on Trans Pacific

2012-01-16 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
John Vandenberg, 08/01/2012 04:50: On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 2:47 AM, James Heilmanjmh...@gmail.com wrote: Hey John. Not sure we why at WMC should be interested? Can you explain further... Why wouldnt WMC be interested in changes to laws in Canada that reduce free cultural exchange? WMIT is

Re: [Foundation-l] Canadian consultation on Trans Pacific

2012-01-16 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
David Gerard, 16/01/2012 15:15: On 16 January 2012 14:08, Federico Leva (Nemo)nemow...@gmail.com wrote: WMIT is interested, too, because the board has decided to move the semi-free and PD-Italy content hosted on biblioteca.wikimedia.it to wikilivres and we'd like Canada to be still able

Re: [Foundation-l] Page view stats

2012-01-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
James Heilman, 12/01/2012 21:36: We seem to be missing the states from Dec of 2011 here http://toolserver.org/~alexz/pop/view.php and not sure why Also Mr.Z-man seems to have gone inactive for more than a month now. Not sure if there is anyone to take over this tool? Hopefully he shall

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Fabrice Florin joins Wikimedia

2012-01-10 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bod Notbod, 10/01/2012 21:57: If I say that this sounds like a hugely important role the rest of the office will fold their arms and rightly harumph at me for the implied negation of their value, so I won't say that. But you can't keep up with Wikipedia news without being made constantly

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Fabrice Florin joins Wikimedia

2012-01-10 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bod Notbod, 10/01/2012 22:59: Maybe forget the blog and Signpost. If we go here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff_and_contractors We see that some staff don't yet have pictures. I would respect the choice of anyone who didn't want a pic up but they do go a long way in helping

Re: [Foundation-l] Spanish website blocking law implemented

2012-01-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
emijrp, 04/01/2012 18:59: With this law, a special team in the Ministry of Culture of Spain can block any (for-profit or non-profit) website, from Spain or overseas, that _links_ to copyrighted works. Including Google, Wikipedia or whatever. Without a judge. That's entirely different! For

Re: [Foundation-l] A fundraiser for editors

2012-01-03 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Keegan Peterzell, 03/01/2012 08:41: Big cities usually work a lot better than small towns or medium sized cities, where inclusion of local places are often reverted due to lack of assertions of notability. English Wikipeidia user Chzz inspired an essay that I host, for new users strictly

Re: [Foundation-l] A fundraiser for editors

2012-01-03 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
James Heilman, 03/01/2012 17:36: I am not suggesting that we use just a simple banner. We need to create something with a picture of a Wikipedian with text like join us in improving the world leading encyclopedia, click here to learn how. Than when people click it will ask them what sort of

Re: [Foundation-l] Celebrating the 2011 campaign

2012-01-02 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bastien Guerry, 02/01/2012 13:04: Erik Moeller writes: Years ago, we used to worry that people wouldn't/didn't understand that Wikimedia is a non-profit, that it's created by volunteers, that it's international/multilingual. Many misconceptions still exist, but for anyone paying attention,

Re: [Foundation-l] Blink tag jokes are now obsolete.

2011-12-31 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
geni, 31/12/2011 10:22: And they are also used for displaying bilingual messages, which is very useful for areas in which you can't be sure whether people prefer English or the local language, like India. Except both versions I was getting were in English. I guess you mean the set of

Re: [Foundation-l] Blink tag jokes are now obsolete.

2011-12-31 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thomas Dalton, 31/12/2011 15:58: On 31 December 2011 14:42, Zack Exleyzex...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi everyone - It's a trade off between doing things that might annoy some people in the banners vs. reducing the number of days we need to run banners at all. It's hard to find the right

[Foundation-l] WMF compensation practices

2011-12-31 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Erik Moeller, 30/11/2011 07:03: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Nathan wrote: [...] * The budget includes a whopping $14 million on staffing costs (at the planned 117 number of staff, that is nearly $120k per staff member) The 2010-11 staffing budget is $13.3M. [5] Staffing costs

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation's 2010-11 Annual Report

2011-12-31 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thank you for the answers. Jay Walsh, 17/12/2011 19:29: The languages chosen were a balance between our geographic priorities (Brazil, Middle East, India) and our widest base of donors and contributors from other countries. It's imperfect, as always - we want to do more in the future, but we

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia's secret wikis

2011-12-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jan Kučera, 31/12/2011 01:52: I see following wikis hold secred information: http://internal.wikimedia.org http://office.wikimedia.org http://board.wikimedia.org Try harder: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_wikis#Private_wikis Nemo ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia domains at GoDaddy

2011-12-23 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
John Du Hart, 23/12/2011 16:30: This is currently on the reddit front page http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/nnv9l/wikipediaorg_is_with_godaddy_jimmy_if_youre/ Why we're using GoDaddy in the first place is beyond me, surely there's better options available (Like ones that don't

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia domains at GoDaddy

2011-12-23 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
David Gerard, 23/12/2011 20:25: Until a few moments ago, http://support.godaddy.com/godaddy/go-daddys-position-on-sopa/ contained a strong statement of support for SOPA. I don't have a screen capture, but I quite definitely read it. Also, Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA (the title of their

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation's 2010-11 Annual Report

2011-12-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thank you! Now reading it. :-) In the meanwhile: Jay Walsh, 17/12/2011 00:34: This year we considerably expanded our multi-lingual effort by adding 6 translated 'summary' reports in Arabic, Japanese, French, German, Portugese, and Spanish. How were those languages chosen? I can't see any

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation's 2010-11 Annual Report

2011-12-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Yaroslav M. Blanter, 17/12/2011 09:29: May be just because they did not have anybody to translate to other languages, as the composition of Transcom suggests? Cheers Yaroslav To correct myself, it just means that nobody did the translations No. In the highlights case, it was about the

Re: [Foundation-l] Smurfs Movie is infringing on wikipedia copyright

2011-12-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
David Richfield, 17/12/2011 10:40: It's disgusting that a megacorporation which has a predatory, legalistic attitude towards intellectual property doesn't play by its own rules. According to whai I've heard of the film, it's because smurfs didn't like Wikipedia's article on them. Nemo

Re: [Foundation-l] Terms of use rewrite winding down

2011-12-11 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
MZMcBride, 11/12/2011 19:02: Hi. The Terms of use rewrite is starting to wind down. The current draft is here:https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use. All users are encouraged to edit and improve the draft before January 1, 2012. In particular, the document could use a thorough

Re: [Foundation-l] Is a research banner advertising of the evil sort?

2011-12-10 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
It's a matter of perspective, as always: the universities see the addition of their logos as added value for Wikipedia/WMF. For instance, such a usage of logos is strictly prohibited by my university (unimi.it) and is authorised only if there's a partnership framework about some research and a

Re: [Foundation-l] Regarding Berkman/Sciences Po study

2011-12-10 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dario Taraborelli, 10/12/2011 04:51: • Is the Foundation running ads? No, this banner is a recruitment campaign for a research project that has been thoroughly reviewed by the Research Committee. We have a long tradition of supporting recruitment for research about our communities via

Re: [Foundation-l] Finnish MP FAIL!!!

2011-11-19 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, 19/11/2011 09:39: Not sure if this is appropriate for this list, but just for lulz. A finnish member of parliament just got caught for his speech being a word for word piece of snippets from a Finnish Wikipedia article. No intervening binding lines, just the Wikipedia

Re: [Foundation-l] Who *doesn't* suffer from adminitis these days?

2011-11-07 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Kim Bruning, 02/11/2011 21:52: So qua editor retention, 2 things are needed: * Make editing more obvious and easy, and bring the fun back. :-) * Work on The Cure For Adminitis (tm). O:-) The only known cure is abstention: either wikibreak or editing on a wiki where you're not sysop or on the

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia visual identity guidelines

2011-11-07 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jay Walsh, 08/11/2011 00:51: In short, I think the chapters should build the marks that make the most sense in their own cultures, and more importantly that they should very easily communicate the name and idea of the chapter as well as 'wikimedia' in some way. I don't know if any of those

Re: [Foundation-l] Frustration with WMF = WP

2011-11-02 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dominic McDevitt-Parks, 02/11/2011 16:30: But the Foundation often fails to act as if the other projects are actually essential in fulfilling its mission, and is notoriously bad at ever characterizing them as essential or trying to make them feel that way. Unless that as if is a variation of

Re: [Foundation-l] Ideas for newbie recruitment

2011-10-31 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
David Gerard, 31/10/2011 12:29: I’ve been into Wikipedia for several years, and all my friends know this. I *still* find myself having to explain to them in small words that that “edit” link really does include them fixing typos when they see one. So my suggestion: tiny tiny steps like this:

Re: [Foundation-l] Ideas for newbie recruitment

2011-10-31 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
David Gerard, 31/10/2011 12:59: On 31 October 2011 11:55, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: What's the impact of changes like https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Taglinediff=20130615oldid=17050524 ? (Probably minimal, readers don't actually read our invitations to edit anyway

Re: [Foundation-l] Ideas for newbie recruitment

2011-10-31 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Robin McCain, 31/10/2011 17:20: We must also remember that the wiki edit interface and markup can be a little intimidating to a newbie, so opening an edit window and making no changes may be more common than we think. Are there any stats on this? Yes, it was something like 70 % of edit clicks

Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, foolish software initiatives backed by WMF

2011-10-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Hubert, 30/10/2011 15:24: One problem is that the word Love is used quite differently in the German language. Even in Great Britain. This again means that translators have to be bold. It's true that translation can be difficult, in fact most interwikis of

Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, foolish software initiatives backed by WMF

2011-10-29 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Erik Moeller, 29/10/2011 00:16: In addition to English Wikipedia, WikiLove has been enabled [...] MediaWiki.org and Commons. Perhaps we can even change the definition on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiLove , currently «extension designed to promote the spread of WikiLove within

Re: [Foundation-l] Europeana and public domain

2011-10-25 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
emijrp, 25/10/2011 12:30: Looks like we have a big ally in the digitisation of public domain content issue[1]: The Europeana Foundation has published a policy statement, the Public Domain Charter, to highlight the value of public domain content in the knowledge economy. It alerts Europe's

Re: [Foundation-l] Is random article truly random

2011-10-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Tim Starling, 21/10/2011 02:29: There's no bias towards or away from porn, however. The distributions of page_random gaps are independent of any variable you might want to study, like quality or age. If you try to get a lot of random pages from Special:Random, eventually you will notice that

Re: [Foundation-l] Is random article truly random

2011-10-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Lodewijk, 18/10/2011 16:02: I would guess that the odds of arriving at such article are so low, that it would not be worth the huge discussion it would definitely result into, to make this change because there is barely any improvement. I agree. Just to say, I'm more worried by this problem:

Re: [Foundation-l] Is random article truly random

2011-10-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Fae, 18/10/2011 17:02: Perhaps it may be a practical response to lobby for a nice big feedback button (rather than the link to a complex contact us page) before we have another great image filter debate/train wreck? If nothing else this would give us hard data on how many readers complain

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Nickanc Wikipedia, 12/10/2011 14:21: Yes, there are these groups, but in most wikipedias they have few persons inside it and they have almost no policy; That's because few people need it. In it wiki basta una riga in [[WP:RA]], secondo me. moreover if you look for global ipblock exempt you

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-10 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Nickanc Wikipedia, 10/10/2011 22:59: Why dont allow Ip block exemptions for TOR when wikipedians are strongly biased by local laws? This is already possible on all wikis with ipblock-exempt group and is/was used mainly for Chinese wikipedians AFAIK. Everybody happily editing on clandestinity

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-09 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Risker, 09/10/2011 18:40: Two board members are selected by chaptersl however, the board has certain rights to refuse the selected candidates. Chapter-selected candidates will be appointed in 2012. The WMF-wide community holds an election in odd-numbered years to nominate three candidates.

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-08 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Ray Saintonge, 08/10/2011 11:11: I'm happy that the Italian language Wikipedia is back in business, and I hope that in the future projects will find better ways to protest than suicide strategies. The key point is that Wikipedias are based on languages, not countries. For Italian there is a

Re: [Foundation-l] Project-specific donation landing page

2011-10-07 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Tempo D. Valse, 07/10/2011 18:07: MZMcBride wrote: It's just a standard sidebar link, really. You can change it to whatever you want on a per-project basis (or not have a donate link at all). There are about a million donation landing pages to choose from. Thanks for the reply. I'm aware

Re: [Foundation-l] Feature request

2011-10-07 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Theo10011, 07/10/2011 20:30: I would say a local VP on a project would be the ideal place to start for new feature requests, and then filing a bug at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ Actually it's already been discussed a number of times, I think, like global user pages and global preferences,

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Stanton Foundation Awards Wikimedia $3.6 Million for Technology Improvements

2011-10-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
MZMcBride, 06/10/2011 05:13: Is the grant restricted or unrestricted? (Is there a copy of the agreement somewhere?) The WMF said very clearly that they're not accepting restricted grants any longer, so I assumed it's unrestricted. Nemo ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia - What exactly does the proposed law say?

2011-10-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Andreas Kolbe, 06/10/2011 02:11: Well, that *is* nuts. Moreover, the 48-hour time period and potential €12,000 fine in the proposed law are nuts (pity the blogger who has gone on a 2-week holiday). Yet that €12,000 fine is not mentioned in the it:WP statement. Being forced to include a

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia - What exactly does the proposed law say?

2011-10-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thomas Morton, 05/10/2011 00:23: I'm still a little bit confused how this will impact Wikipedia, though. The law seems to be clear in identifying the website owner as the person to contact; which is a US not-for-profit. Which law? And which law speaks of website owner? Anyone can be asked to

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Stanton Foundation Awards Wikimedia $3.6 Million for Technology Improvements

2011-10-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bod Notbod, 06/10/2011 11:45: Does this mean we can now finally have categorised watchlists? It's an idea that people have generally been supportive of when I have mentioned it on wiki but never gets any actual action. I'd program it myself if I could. Put simply, imagine you are interested in

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Ray Saintonge, 05/10/2011 10:46: If they are so fearful they can use pseudonyms. They would then need to get a legal order from a US court to identify the users. But all users would need to do so, because a random user or sysop could be asked to publish the correction/statement. On wiki there

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia - What exactly does the proposed law say?

2011-10-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Andreas Kolbe, 05/10/2011 12:49: Even this corrected version does not seem to be right. As I understand the proposed law, the subject would have the right for a statement to be shown, unaltered, on the page (which actually would be possible for Wikipedia to do, via a transcluded and

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia - What exactly does the proposed law say?

2011-10-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Lodewijk, 06/10/2011 14:24: No dia 6 de Outubro de 2011 14:01, Federico Leva (Nemo) escreveu: This doesn't mean that we've misinformed users: prominent jurists agree that the proposed law is absolutely crazy for Wikipedia and other websites; and the community had discussed and assessed

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thomas Goldammer, 05/10/2011 09:21: 2011/10/5 Samuel Kleinmeta...@gmail.com: CLPI has a good practical summary of the law in this area: http://www.clpi.org/the-law/faq interesting: Q. If a charity incorporated in this country has an Australian (for example) affiliate that lobbies

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thomas Morton, 05/10/2011 12:31: On 5 October 2011 11:20, church.of.emacs.ml Are you seriously comparing that italien law to the proposed image filter? Are you aware of the principle of proportionality? What might be okay to do against a law that would kill Wikipedia is different from what is

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF blog post on Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
emijrp, 05/10/2011 17:23: When people reuse content in other websites/blogs/etc, they have to copy the article text and link to Italian Wikipedia where you can check the entire history and authors. That is how attribution is given. It is explained here

Re: [Foundation-l] Italian Wikipedia protest - retrospective legislation?

2011-10-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
WereSpielChequers, 05/10/2011 13:51: Webpages are only permanent if someone keeps hosting them. I can see that if the Italian Wikipedia was back up someone in Italy might send a note to the WMF asking them to comply with this Italian law. But if an editor is no longer active on the site it

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thomas Morton, 04/10/2011 15:23: In the modern world countries love to try it on and apply their internet laws across the world. Fortunately courts tend to give that short shrift. 48 h deadline for correction and fines don't need a court; nor does the police to summon and interrogate a sysop

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
A couple of English articles on the new law: https://www.pcworld.com/article/240840/italian_internet_activists_protest_proposed_law.html http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=852doc_id=234086 Also, I'm not involved in the strike, but the WMF has been somehow informed by the

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jalo, 04/10/2011 18:04: Not at all! In the italian laws, if you bring lawsuit against me for defamation, you must prove I'm not saying the truth. Not really: freedom of press/expression is not so broad in Italy, there's no exceptio veritatis (in short truth is not important) for diffamazione,

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thomas Morton, 04/10/2011 22:25: Lengthy and critical email on why this is a flabbergasting response... Just replying to some bits. - Have they had legal advice? From my semi-legal reading of the material this is not something that will bite them, but that certainly needs to be clarified.

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia - What exactly does the proposed law say?

2011-10-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Andreas Kolbe, 04/10/2011 23:40: Is it that disputed content will have to be *removed* if a request is received, and *replaced* with the BLP subject's statement? Or is it that BLP subjects have the right to ask for a correction to be posted on the page, *in addition* to the disputed content?

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
WereSpielChequers, 04/10/2011 23:46: If someone tried to use this law to force an editor to publish a rebuttal of something posted before the freeze, then surely that would be retrospective legislation? I don't see why. Web pages are permanent, they ask the correction/declaration to be

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia - What exactly does the proposed law say?

2011-10-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
John Vandenberg, 05/10/2011 00:16: On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: http://www.camera.it/_dati/leg16/lavori/stampati/pdf/16PDL0038530.pdf Is this public domain? If it is, we can put it on Italian Wikisource, annotate it and translate it

Re: [Foundation-l] Meta main page

2011-09-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
M. Williamson, 29/09/2011 22:45: ...and Nikerabbit removed it giving only the explanation: not here, per Nikerabbit (would have already fixed the real issues if only somebody had told me) It seems like he's saying that someone should've let him know about the autoselection issue, but he

Re: [Foundation-l] There is a deadline

2011-09-22 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
emijrp, 22/09/2011 16:43: [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:There_is_a_deadline So this combined with http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Digital_Archaeology means that those 4560AD excavations will provide material for philologists who will study interpolations to

Re: [Foundation-l] Possible solution for image filter

2011-09-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
David Gerard, 21/09/2011 14:00: The board resolution specifies a magical flying unicorn pony that shits rainbows. A wide-ranging survey has been conducted on the precise flight patterns and the importance of which way round the rainbow spectrum goes. These tiresome people who keep calling this

Re: [Foundation-l] Extension:Babel

2011-09-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
John Vandenberg, 21/09/2011 16:18: Extension Babel is now deployed. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Babel Thank you Roan. And thanks to the new Internationalization/Localization team (in case you missed it: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2011-September/055078.html

Re: [Foundation-l] A Wikimedia project has forked

2011-09-13 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Erik Moeller, 13/09/2011 03:55: That's of course a risky project and it may not live up to our expectations. But it's IMO a smarter bet to make than just picking (with an unavoidable element of arbitrariness) one of the many specialized areas in which we currently aren't succeeding and

Re: [Foundation-l] A Wikimedia project has forked

2011-09-13 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
M. Williamson, 13/09/2011 00:13: English Wikiquote, which I've always considered to be one of our most pointless and least useful projects, has a total of 5 users who make more than 100 edits a month. This is a project in English, our highest-traffic language, that has been open since 2003.

Re: [Foundation-l] A Wikimedia project has forked

2011-09-13 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
MZMcBride, 13/09/2011 00:24: Wikimedia has made its decision and the community has largely sat quiet on the issue. Rectius: the Wikimedia Foundation (as you say below). Other Wikimedia people, groups and organizations don't think so and are even accused not to have the legitimacy (!) to

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Florence Devouard, 02/09/2011 21:11: You seek to remove perceived conflicts of interest, even if that means creating real conflicts of interest ? Because there would be conflict of interest and rather BIG ONES. We are facing rather severe challenges right now. Let's say it straight,

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