Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC

I've just had an interesting discussion with Adobe European Support on the issue of cross-grading from FrameMaker on Mac to FrameMaker on PC. It seems to come down to this: . Produce an invoice for the original purchase of FrameMaker (in my case, from Frame Corp in 1991) . Sign a 'letter of

good flowchart software to use with Frame

Hi, all, I need to make up some flowcharts to import into frame. I used SmartDraw, but when I import the SmartDraw file, it's not very clear and it does not resize well. Anyone have any suggestions?? Beth ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers

RE: Question regarding converting documents to Structured FrameMaker

Lynne, Aha! As it turned out, there was a blank paragraph tag between my Title element and my Itemizedlist element. Once I found that, I modified my conversion table and all was well. Thanks--I don't know if I would've thought of that! Dave Shevitz Sr. Technical Writer | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |

Nasty X-Refs

I just spend best part of an afternoon searching for a broken X-ref that, IMHO, should never have existed. I'm updating a document that has been through many hands (of various degrees of incompetence). As always when I inherit a doc, I start a new Book file from scratch and add chapters to

RE: good flowchart software to use with Frame

Visio? I can't remember, because it's been awhile since I used it, but I seem to remember that it worked very well... -Original Message- Subject: good flowchart software to use with Frame Hi, all, I need to make up some flowcharts to import into frame. I used SmartDraw, but when I

RE: Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC

It's really not any different from Adobe's standard upgrade policy. If you buy an upgrade license for most (if not all) of their products, it only entitles you to keep both versions installed for a transition period (90 days, as I recall). After that period you are supposed to uninstall the old

Re: good flowchart software to use with Frame

FrameMaker ships with a set of flowchart primitives. They are poorly drawn and pretty much crap. I re-drew them many years ago. Some people on the list have tried them out. If anyone found them useful, maybe they will comment. If you're interested I'll try to find them. I've not used them in

RE: good flowchart software to use with Frame

Visio - save as PNG. Works well for me. -Niels - -Original Message- - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - On Behalf Of Beth Prince - Sent: 13. september 2006 20:16 - To: framers@lists.frameusers.com - Subject: good flowchart software to use with Frame - - Hi, all, -

RE: Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC

At 08:45 -0400 14/9/06, Ridder, Fred wrote: It's really not any different from Adobe's standard upgrade policy. If you buy an upgrade license for most (if not all) of their products, it only entitles you to keep both versions installed for a transition period (90 days, as I recall). After that

Re: 2 blank pages

At 17:26 +0300 14/9/06, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: I have an Index with 2 blank pages at the end. I tried every possibility under Pagination, Delete Blank pages, etc. Any ideas? Special - Delete Pages? Also, are they really blank? Is there actually something there that you aren't currently

Re: 2 blank pages

Have you made sure that they don't have a Custom master page applied to them? Applying a Custom master page tends to override a number of pagination functions. If it is custom, change to Left/Right, then try saving the file again and see if the extra pages go away. --- Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL

Re: good flowchart software to use with Frame

Good Morning Beth, I too use SmartDraw, particularly for flowcharts that include images. I had a problem with the shartness of images until I tried saving the SmartDraw graphic as a .png file and using that in FrameMaker. The resulting graphic, whether print or Acrobat, is great. Best,

Re: good flowchart software to use with Frame

Second that. On 9/14/06, Niels Fanøe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Visio - save as PNG. Works well for me. -Niels -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl.

Re: 2 blank pages

At 5:26 PM +0300 9/14/06, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: I have an Index with 2 blank pages at the end. I tried every possibility under Pagination, Delete Blank pages, etc. Any ideas? One possibility is that upon generation of the book the penultimate index page has a lone trailing empty paragraph on

RE: good flowchart software to use with Frame

Although FrameMaker drawing tools are primitive, keep in mind that if your documents are ever going to be translated, the Translator will need to access the Flow chart labels and translate them too. If the flow chart is done all in Frame, it's easier for the Translator. If it's in Visio, the

Re: good flowchart software to use with Frame

Hi, Gillian: Did you ever try applying FM callouts - as text frames or text lines - to the imported graphics? This gives the option to use the best drawing tools for the purpose, and still permits translators to stay in FM. Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices Gillian Flato wrote:

Re: good flowchart software to use with Frame

Hi, Gillian: Did you ever try applying FM callouts - as text frames or text lines - to the imported graphics? This gives the option to use the best drawing tools for the purpose, and still permits translators to stay in FM. Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices Gillian Flato wrote:

RE: good flowchart software to use with Frame

What do you mean by apply callouts? I just type them in and then group them together with the graphic. Gillian Flato -Original Message- From: Peter Gold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:10 AM To: Gillian Flato Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject:

RE: Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC

Steve Fred, That 90-day (or whatever) restriction on version-to-version upgrades on the same computer went out a number of years ago. However, when you are dealing with a platform-to-platform sidegrade, you are dealing with software on distinctly separate computers! The restriction is

RE: good flowchart software to use with Frame

PNG is a raster format that does not scale well. Visio is primarily vector. You want to preserve the content as vector. Best best is to produce PDF from Visio and import either the PDF or EPS (saved from the PDF in Acrobat) into your FrameMaker document. - Dov -Original Message-

RE: good flowchart software to use with Frame

And if they are done in FrameMaker using the primitives I made they get spell checked along with the rest of the document. That's worth something. - web At 9:00 AM -0700 9/14/06, Gillian Flato wrote: Although FrameMaker drawing tools are primitive, keep in mind that if your documents are ever

OT: Pubsnet out of office reply bounces

Is anyone else receiving a bunch of out of office reply and thanks for your resume auto-reply bounces from the Pubsnet newsletter? They are coming from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Pubsnet Newsletter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seems like their mail server is re-distributing the auto-replies they

RE: Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC

Thanks for the information, Dov. I guess I need to be more meticulous about reading the EULA (which we all read in detail before we break the seal on the software distribution, right?) I was pretty sure the restriction was still in the EULA as of FrameMaker 6.0, but I guess that *was* a number

Re: OT: Pubsnet out of office reply bounces

At 10:32 AM -0700 9/14/06, Don Laux wrote: Is anyone else receiving a bunch of out of office reply and thanks for your resume auto-reply bounces from the Pubsnet newsletter? Yup. It was a trickle, now it's a stream. I'd like it stopped completely, before it becomes a flood. - web

RE: Pubsnet out of office reply bounces

I am receiving them as well. I assume everyone on their subscriber list is receiving them. Bureeda Bruner Paragon Innovations, Inc. Phone: 972-265-6000 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: www.paragoninnovations.com Success Stories: www.paragoninnovations.com/ng/success.shtml Embedded systems design

RE: Pubsnet out of office reply bounces

web wrote: I'm manifestly NOT on their subscriber list and I'm getting them. Me thinks they have harvested names from the framers list. __ I have never subscribed to a Pubsnet list either and I'm getting tons of junk from them! ~Jennifer

RE: Pubsnet out of office reply bounces

I get no email from or about pubsnet, except now through the FM list. Who's worse. --- Jennifer Randel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: web wrote: I'm manifestly NOT on their subscriber list and I'm getting them. Me thinks they have harvested names from the framers list.

Re: Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC

Hi, Fred: Ridder, Fred wrote: Thanks for the information, Dov. I guess I need to be more meticulous about reading the EULA (which we all read in detail before we break the seal on the software distribution, right?) PLEASE, please tell me how to read the EULA that's on the disk or in the

RE: Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC

All Adobe's EULAs are posted for public inspection on its website. See http://www.adobe.com/products/eulas/. - Dov -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:53 AM To: Ridder, Fred

RE: Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC

LOL, Peter... The EULA is often printed on the outside of a sealed envelope that contains the actual software distribution, and that's the seal that is referred to in the EULA. If there's no sealed envelope, the seal on the jewel case or CD sleeve (the software distribution media) that is the

Re: FYI: Pubsnet posts

At 15:15 -0400 14/9/06, Rick Quatro wrote: I just talked to someone at Pubsnet about the rogue posts and they are aware of the problem. Apparently, someone hacked their server and reeked havoc. Yup, it surely reeks ;-) (I've been getting them too.) -- Steve

Re: FYI: Pubsnet posts

Because there are so many of these notes, I created an email filter to trash them. My settings are: Criteria: * Date: 9/5/2006 and * Sender or From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and * Subject contains: [News Actions: * Mark as Junk * Move to Junk folder HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices

RE: good flowchart software to use with Frame

Dov Isaacs wrote: PNG is a raster format that does not scale well. Visio is primarily vector. You want to preserve the content as vector. Best best is to produce PDF from Visio and import either the PDF or EPS (saved from the PDF in Acrobat) into your FrameMaker document. I'm using

Robohelp vs. WebWorks EPublisher Pro

Guys, I am considering upgrading from WebWorks 7.0 to either WebWorks ePublisher Pro or Robohelp X5. What experiences have you guys had with both - going from Frame 7.0 to these, single-sourcing files, of course? Which do you like better? Does Robohelp have an edge since it's also an Adobe

RE: Robohelp vs. WebWorks EPublisher Pro

I went to ePublisher and I am happy with it. I used it for our last release and all the online help (HTML Help) got done on time with no bugs, so I have no complaints. There is a learning curve, and I thought the initial release was not ready for primetime, but the current version seems robust

Manual requirement or creation form

Rather than reinvent the wheel, I am seeking for samples of forms that would be submitted to a technical publications department requesting the creation of a technical manual; the form would have spaces for information on subject, scope, SME, deadlines, etc. to be filled in by the submitter. If

good flowchart software to use with Frame

We use Visio and import the charts into FM 6 as a linked objects. The process seems stable, retains vector format, and avoids any conversion issues. Fred Staal Supervisor, Technical Publications Schilling Robotics, LLC Phone: (530) 753-6718 x155 Fax: (530) 753-8092 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Document Management System needed for FM

Re the discussion of CVS, have a look at Subversion and TortoiseSVN as a GUI client. Both on Sourceforge. Also, Siberlogic Sibersafe is a *** content management system *** that works with FrameMaker content down to the level of paragraphs and also supports the DITA XML system. Note: A

Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC

I've just had an interesting discussion with Adobe European Support on the issue of cross-grading from FrameMaker on Mac to FrameMaker on PC. It seems to come down to this: . Produce an invoice for the original purchase of FrameMaker (in my case, from Frame Corp in 1991) . Sign a 'letter of

Nasty X-Refs

I just spend best part of an afternoon searching for a broken X-ref that, IMHO, should never have existed. I'm updating a document that has been through many hands (of various degrees of incompetence). As always when I inherit a doc, I start a new Book file from scratch and add chapters to

good flowchart software to use with Frame

Visio? I can't remember, because it's been awhile since I used it, but I seem to remember that it worked very well... -Original Message- Subject: good flowchart software to use with Frame Hi, all, I need to make up some flowcharts to import into frame. I used SmartDraw, but when I

Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC

It's really not any different from Adobe's standard upgrade policy. If you buy an upgrade license for most (if not all) of their products, it only entitles you to keep both versions installed for a transition period (90 days, as I recall). After that period you are supposed to uninstall the old

good flowchart software to use with Frame

FrameMaker ships with a set of flowchart primitives. They are poorly drawn and pretty much crap. I re-drew them many years ago. Some people on the list have tried them out. If anyone found them useful, maybe they will comment. If you're interested I'll try to find them. I've not used them in

good flowchart software to use with Frame

Visio - save as PNG. Works well for me. -Niels -> -Original Message- -> From: framers-bounces+nfa=maconomy.dk at lists.frameusers.com -> [mailto:framers-bounces+nfa=maconomy.dk at lists.frameusers.com] -> On Behalf Of Beth Prince -> Sent: 13. september 2006 20:16 -> To: framers at

Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC

At 08:45 -0400 14/9/06, Ridder, Fred wrote: >It's really not any different from Adobe's standard upgrade policy. >If you buy an upgrade license for most (if not all) of their products, >it only entitles you to keep both versions installed for a transition >period (90 days, as I recall). After

good flowchart software to use with Frame

Beth Prince wrote: > Hi, all, > I need to make up some flowcharts to import into frame. I used > SmartDraw, but when I import the SmartDraw file, it's not very clear and > it does not resize well. Anyone have any suggestions?? I use Visio for this ... save it in a vector format and it will

2 blank pages

I have an Index with 2 blank pages at the end. I tried every possibility under Pagination, Delete Blank pages, etc. Any ideas? -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson

2 blank pages

At 17:26 +0300 14/9/06, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: >I have an Index with 2 blank pages at the end. I tried every possibility under >Pagination, Delete Blank pages, etc. Any ideas? Special -> Delete Pages? Also, are they really blank? Is there actually something there that you aren't currently

2 blank pages

Have you made sure that they don't have a Custom master page applied to them? Applying a Custom master page tends to override a number of pagination functions. If it is custom, change to Left/Right, then try saving the file again and see if the extra pages go away. --- Shmuel Wolfson wrote: >

2 blank pages

Pagination is probably being controlled by the book file... so you checked the settings for both the Index and the file that follow it? If you're using Delete Pages to remove the two pages, when are they reappearing? When you regenerate the Index, Update the book, or some other time? If you add

good flowchart software to use with Frame

Good Morning Beth, I too use SmartDraw, particularly for flowcharts that include images. I had a problem with the shartness of images until I tried saving the SmartDraw graphic as a .png file and using that in FrameMaker. The resulting graphic, whether print or Acrobat, is great. Best,

good flowchart software to use with Frame

Second that. On 9/14/06, Niels Fan?e wrote: > Visio - save as PNG. Works well for me. > > -Niels -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl."

2 blank pages

Another possibility I have encountered is disconnected text flows. The tell tale sing is a lonely "End of flow" marker at the top of the last page (or sometimes the next-to-last page. Regards, Berny Gagn? Lead Technical Writer Husky Injection Molding Systems Bolton, Ontario, Canada

2 blank pages

At 11:18 -0400 14/9/06, Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) wrote: >The tell tale sing is a lonely "End of flow"... How does that one go, then? ;-) Maybe to the tune of 'O sole mio'? -- Steve

2 blank pages

At 5:26 PM +0300 9/14/06, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: >I have an Index with 2 blank pages at the end. I tried every possibility under >Pagination, Delete Blank pages, etc. Any ideas? One possibility is that upon generation of the book the penultimate index page has a lone trailing empty paragraph on

good flowchart software to use with Frame

Although FrameMaker drawing tools are primitive, keep in mind that if your documents are ever going to be translated, the Translator will need to access the Flow chart labels and translate them too. If the flow chart is done all in Frame, it's easier for the Translator. If it's in Visio, the

good flowchart software to use with Frame

Hi, Gillian: Did you ever try applying FM callouts - as text frames or text lines - to the imported graphics? This gives the option to use the best drawing tools for the purpose, and still permits translators to stay in FM. Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices Gillian Flato wrote: >

good flowchart software to use with Frame

Hi, Gillian: Did you ever try applying FM callouts - as text frames or text lines - to the imported graphics? This gives the option to use the best drawing tools for the purpose, and still permits translators to stay in FM. Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices Gillian Flato wrote: >

good flowchart software to use with Frame

What do you mean by apply callouts? I just type them in and then group them together with the graphic. Gillian Flato -Original Message- From: Peter Gold [mailto:pe...@knowhowpro.com] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:10 AM To: Gillian Flato Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com

good flowchart software to use with Frame

Hi, Gillian: Gillian Flato wrote: > What do you mean by apply callouts? I just type them in and then group > them together with the graphic. > > That's what I mean! When you say "type them in" you must be typing into text frames or text lines (the "A" tool) you've created in the drawing

Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC

Steve & Fred, That 90-day (or whatever) restriction on version-to-version upgrades on the same computer went out a number of years ago. However, when you are dealing with a platform-to-platform "sidegrade," you are dealing with software on distinctly separate computers! The restriction is

good flowchart software to use with Frame

PNG is a raster format that does not scale well. Visio is primarily vector. You want to preserve the content as vector. Best best is to produce PDF from Visio and import either the PDF or EPS (saved from the PDF in Acrobat) into your FrameMaker document. - Dov > -Original

good flowchart software to use with Frame

And if they are done in FrameMaker using the primitives I made they get spell checked along with the rest of the document. That's worth something. - web At 9:00 AM -0700 9/14/06, Gillian Flato wrote: >Although FrameMaker drawing tools are primitive, keep in mind that if >your documents are ever

OT: Pubsnet "out of office reply" bounces

Is anyone else receiving a bunch of "out of office reply" and "thanks for your resume" auto-reply bounces from the Pubsnet newsletter? They are coming from "news-bounces at pubsnet-news.com on behalf of Pubsnet Newsletter [news at pubsnet-news.com]" Seems like their mail server is

Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC

Thanks for the information, Dov. I guess I need to be more meticulous about reading the EULA (which we all read in detail before we break the seal on the software distribution, right?) I was pretty sure the restriction was still in the EULA as of FrameMaker 6.0, but I guess that *was* "a

Pubsnet "out of office reply" bounces

At 12:40 PM -0500 9/14/06, Bureeda Bruner wrote: >I assume everyone on their subscriber list is receiving them. I'm manifestly NOT on their subscriber list and I'm getting them. Me thinks they have harvested names from the framers list. - web

Pubsnet "out of office reply" bounces

web wrote: I'm manifestly NOT on their subscriber list and I'm getting them. Me thinks they have harvested names from the framers list. __ I have never subscribed to a Pubsnet list either and I'm getting tons of junk from them! ~Jennifer

Pubsnet "out of office reply" bounces

I get no email from or about pubsnet, except now through the FM list. Who's worse. --- Jennifer Randel wrote: > web wrote: > I'm manifestly NOT on their subscriber list and I'm getting them. > Me > thinks they have harvested names from the framers list. > __ > > I

Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC

Hi, Fred: Ridder, Fred wrote: > Thanks for the information, Dov. I guess I need to be more > meticulous about reading the EULA (which we all read in > detail before we break the seal on the software distribution, > right?) > PLEASE, please tell me how to read the EULA that's on the disk or

Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC

All Adobe's EULAs are posted for public inspection on its website. See . - Dov > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com] > On

Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC

LOL, Peter... The EULA is often printed on the outside of a sealed envelope that contains the actual software distribution, and that's the seal that is referred to in the EULA. If there's no sealed envelope, the seal on the jewel case or CD sleeve (the software distribution media) that is the

Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC

Hi, Fred: Should I have waited to send this on Friday? Ridder, Fred wrote: > LOL, Peter... > > The EULA is often printed on the outside of a sealed envelope > that contains the actual software distribution, and that's the seal > that is referred to in the EULA. If there's no sealed envelope,

FYI: Pubsnet posts

I just talked to someone at Pubsnet about the rogue posts and they are aware of the problem. Apparently, someone hacked their server and reeked havoc. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com

FYI: Pubsnet posts

At 15:15 -0400 14/9/06, Rick Quatro wrote: >I just talked to someone at Pubsnet about the rogue posts and they are aware >of the problem. Apparently, someone hacked their server and reeked havoc. Yup, it surely reeks ;-) (I've been getting them too.) -- Steve

FYI: Pubsnet posts

Because there are so many of these notes, I created an email filter to trash them. My settings are: Criteria: * Date: 9/5/2006 and * Sender or From: news-bounces at pubsnet-news.com and * Subject contains: [News Actions: * Mark as Junk * Move to Junk folder HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow

FYI: Pubsnet posts

Addded them to the spam filter until they get it under control. The woman I've been talking to since it started last week has been saying their IT guys keep telling her the problem's solved. Until we all call. ;- ) Art On 9/14/06, Steve Rickaby wrote: > At 15:15 -0400 14/9/06, Rick Quatro

good flowchart software to use with Frame

Dov Isaacs wrote: > PNG is a raster format that does not scale well. > Visio is primarily vector. You want to preserve the content > as vector. Best best is to produce PDF from Visio and import > either the PDF or EPS (saved from the PDF in Acrobat) into > your FrameMaker document. I'm using

Robohelp vs. WebWorks EPublisher Pro

Guys, I am considering upgrading from WebWorks 7.0 to either WebWorks ePublisher Pro or Robohelp X5. What experiences have you guys had with both - going from Frame 7.0 to these, single-sourcing files, of course? Which do you like better? Does Robohelp have an edge since it's also an Adobe

Robohelp vs. WebWorks EPublisher Pro

I went to ePublisher and I am happy with it. I used it for our last release and all the online help (HTML Help) got done on time with no bugs, so I have no complaints. There is a learning curve, and I thought the initial release was not ready for primetime, but the current version seems robust

Manual requirement or creation form

Rather than reinvent the wheel, I am seeking for samples of forms that would be submitted to a technical publications department requesting the creation of a technical manual; the form would have spaces for information on subject, scope, SME, deadlines, etc. to be filled in by the submitter. If

good flowchart software to use with Frame

We use Visio and import the charts into FM 6 as a linked objects. The process seems stable, retains vector format, and avoids any conversion issues. Fred Staal Supervisor, Technical Publications Schilling Robotics, LLC Phone: (530) 753-6718 x155 Fax: (530) 753-8092 fred.staal at schilling.con

good flowchart software to use with Frame

I agree. I import Visio graphics into both FrameMaker and MS Word, and the results have always been legible. -- Brian On 9/14/06, Charles Beck wrote: > Visio? I can't remember, because it's been awhile since I used it, but I > seem to remember that it worked very well... >

Wrapping TOC, extra tabs not quite solving all problems

Linda I am interested in a real "auto" solution to this issue. It crops up now and then and "now" it has cropped up again. None of the tips others have left for you work for me either. I tried the plugin...but for me I might as well just remember to stick in manual breaks at the end of the