RE: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
In this day and age, is Internet "bandwidth" use for text e-mails really an issue? :) Plus, are you saying that you know/believe that FrameMaker is not going to be released as a cloud-based license model soon? Love to hear the news. And, in my opinion, btw, my discussion (feel free to call it w

Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
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RE: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
As has been stated before, we obviously think differently. My perspective is that new versions of software generally do have bug fixes, code improvements, etc., and in general run better, faster, with new features, etc. So, I *prefer* to upgrade when new versions are released - although this pro

Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
As has been stated before, we obviously think differently. My perspective is that new versions of software generally do have bug fixes, code improvements, etc., and in general run better, faster, with new features, etc. So, I *prefer* to upgrade when new versions are released - although this pro

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Re: Custom Ruling in Multiple Table Headings using Read write rules.

2013-07-17 Thread Matt Sullivan
Lisa, have you tried assigning a table format rather than explicitly formatting the row? -MattMatt R. Sullivan co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | m...@mattrsullivan.com @mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com  On Jul 17, 201

Custom Ruling in Multiple Table Headings using Read write rules.

2013-07-17 Thread Matt Sullivan
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Re: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread Matt Sullivan
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Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread Matt Sullivan
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Re: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread Robert Lauriston
So if you don't like the new licensing model, don't upgrade. I can't imagine much useful that Adobe's going to add to those apps that they don't do already. On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: > Ummm ... I believe that his point was that, in time, the

Custom Ruling in Multiple Table Headings using Read write rules.

2013-07-17 Thread Lisa Freeman
I am using read write rules along with my EDD, etc. to convert XML to structured FrameMaker files. Is anyone familiar with using RW rules to control the row ruling within multiple heading rows? I am able to get the 2nd heading line in with a mix of xml tagging and my rules. What I'm having an is

Re: OT: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread Grant Hogarth
David, it seems logical to me: if the CC licence is for version >6, and your CS version is 6, flies created with the cloud version won't be able to be opened with your local version. Just like you cannot open FM version 10 files in FM version 9. Grant On 7/17/2013 4:52 AM, David Creamer wro

RE: Setting up files for structured use

2013-07-17 Thread Craig Ede
Fair enough. I misunderstood that state of things. BTW: My description is flawed about the structapps files. It does read the local one on the next load of FM. Craig From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:m...@mattrsullivan.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:26 PM To: craig...@hotmail.com Cc: 'F

RE: Setting up files for structured use

2013-07-17 Thread Craig Ede
Reinstalling completely to fix the maker.ini files seems a bit like overkill. When editing the maker.ini file it is a good idea to make a copy in the same location. I name the copy maker.ini.ORIG, so I can use that to get back to the original settings if they are needed. This use of two structa

RE: Index and Glossary

2013-07-17 Thread Bethany Lee
Does this help? http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/Using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7960b-7ed5.html From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Donald Rinderknecht - NOAA Federal Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:24 PM To: frame

Custom Ruling in Multiple Table Headings using Read write rules.

2013-07-17 Thread Lisa Freeman
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Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread Robert Lauriston
So if you don't like the new licensing model, don't upgrade. I can't imagine much useful that Adobe's going to add to those apps that they don't do already. On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > Ummm ... I believe that his point was that, in time,

RE: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Oops, my apologies too. Please ignore my last e-mail too - I responded to it before I saw this one from you and from others. Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Creamer Sent: Wednesday, July 17,

RE: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Ummm ... I believe that his point was that, in time, the file format used by the "ever-improving" versions of CC would become unreadable in the existing, "no longer upgraded" version of CS6. It is a highly likely possibility. This is true for FrameMaker for example ... try reading FM 11 files in

Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Oops, my apologies too. Please ignore my last e-mail too - I responded to it before I saw this one from you and from others. Z -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Creamer Sent: Wednesday, July

Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Ummm ... I believe that his point was that, in time, the file format used by the "ever-improving" versions of CC would become unreadable in the existing, "no longer upgraded" version of CS6. It is a highly likely possibility. This is true for FrameMaker for example ... try reading FM 11 files in

OT: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread Mike Wickham
Read my note again. I didn't say CS6 would stop working. I said that files created in the CC version may not always be backward compatible with CS6. Right now, I don't know if CC has introduced any features that create files that aren't backward compatible, but each new edition of Photoshop te

OT: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread David Creamer
> If you already own a perpetual license version, you don't have to stop > using it. But if you start out as a renter, you do. And if you own a > perpetual license, such as CS6, and then rent CC as your new upgrade > path, when you stop paying, there's a good chance that your current > files wi

Re: Setting up files for structured use

2013-07-17 Thread Chris Despopoulos
Hi Dave... I haven't followed this thread closely, but I have to say that is VERY unusual that there would be a problem with Maker faithfully reading the read/write rules file.  If that's what's happening, then there must be an error in your installation and/or setup of the configuration files.

Setting up files for structured use

2013-07-17 Thread Chris Despopoulos
s" file, wherever it is, looks like a deal breaker that, I'm sorry to say, gives me pause about continuing using FrameMaker.? There's just so much "pressure" to use other XML editor computer programs . . .. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrub

Re: OT: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread Mike Wickham
Read my note again. I didn't say CS6 would stop working. I said that files created in the CC version may not always be backward compatible with CS6. Right now, I don't know if CC has introduced any features that create files that aren't backward compatible, but each new edition of Photoshop te

OT: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread Grant Hogarth
David, it seems logical to me: if the CC licence is for version >6, and your CS version is 6, flies created with the cloud version won't be able to be opened with your local version. Just like you cannot open FM version 10 files in FM version 9. Grant On 7/17/2013 4:52 AM, David Creamer wrote

OT: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread David Creamer
> If you already own a perpetual license version, you don't have to stop > using it. But if you start out as a renter, you do. And if you own a > perpetual license, such as CS6, and then rent CC as your new upgrade > path, when you stop paying, there's a good chance that your current > files wi

RE: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread Combs, Richard
David Creamer wrote: > > If you already own a perpetual license version, you don't have to stop > > using it. But if you start out as a renter, you do. And if you own a > > perpetual license, such as CS6, and then rent CC as your new upgrade > > path, when you stop paying, there's a good chance t

Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread Combs, Richard
David Creamer wrote: > > If you already own a perpetual license version, you don't have to stop > > using it. But if you start out as a renter, you do. And if you own a > > perpetual license, such as CS6, and then rent CC as your new upgrade > > path, when you stop paying, there's a good chance th

OT: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread David Creamer
> If you already own a perpetual license version, you don't have to stop > using it. But if you start out as a renter, you do. And if you own a > perpetual license, such as CS6, and then rent CC as your new upgrade > path, when you stop paying, there's a good chance that your current > files wi

RE: Setting up files for structured use

2013-07-17 Thread Dave.Stamm
2013-07-17-03T12:55Z Matt - Thanks for the customary caution about protecting files. According to our custom, our "source" \ structapps.fm is in safekeeping on a server that is backed up. Regards, Dave Stamm Information Engineer From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:m...@mattrsullivan.com]

Setting up files for structured use

2013-07-17 Thread dave.st...@gdc4s.com
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RE: Setting up files for structured use

2013-07-17 Thread Dave.Stamm
2013-07-17-03T12:30Z Craig - Thanks so much for the info. I'll check it out. The problem of FrameMaker's not faithfully reading the "rules" file, wherever it is, looks like a deal breaker that, I'm sorry to say, gives me pause about continuing using FrameMaker. There's just so much "pres

Setting up files for structured use

2013-07-17 Thread dave.st...@gdc4s.com
of the structapps file (local and global, both available from the Structure menu in Fm11), and I'm betting you're getting snarled in the combinations of these files. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130717/d53fc4da/attachment.html>

OT: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-17 Thread David Creamer
> If you already own a perpetual license version, you don't have to stop > using it. But if you start out as a renter, you do. And if you own a > perpetual license, such as CS6, and then rent CC as your new upgrade > path, when you stop paying, there's a good chance that your current > files wi