Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-26 Thread Alan Barber
Well, it doesn't work that way for me. Laptop: four year old Sony, optimized for battery life over performance; 1.2 GHz, .5 GB RAM (!!), XP SP3; FM8p273. Desktop: Dual CPU 2.13 GHz, 4GB RAM, Vista SP1; FM8p277. With the desktop it takes six seconds to scroll across two 90character lines with

Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-21 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Syed, 2GB of memory is not much for Vista. I would suggest at least 3GB. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Hmmm ... I would suggest doing some testing to see if you see what I just saw ... I decided to try to duplicate what I was reading here. I have a

RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-21 Thread Fred Ridder
Responding to Syed Hosain, Rick Quatro wrote: 2GB of memory is not much for Vista. I would suggest at least 3GB. The 32-bit versions of Vista can only address 3 GB of memory, so more than that amount doesn't improve performance unless you're running the 64-bit (Ultimate) version of Vista.

RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-21 Thread Syed.Hosain
, January 21, 2009 7:36 AM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC Hi Syed, 2GB of memory is not much for Vista. I would suggest at least 3GB. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com

RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-21 Thread Syed.Hosain
Fred Ridder said: Ø The 32-bit versions of Vista can only address 3 GB of memory, so more than that amount doesn't improve performance unless you're running the 64-bit (Ultimate) version of Vista. Yup! But you don't have to go all the way to Ultimate 64. Just as an FYI, there is a Vista

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-21 Thread Dave Reynolds
scroll rate. > > So the slowness problem appears to be linked to having the Paragraph > Designer and Character Designer palettes. Hopefully, this issue will be > fixed with FrameMaker 9. Yes, I'm an optimist. :) > > Mike Wickham > > > - Original Message ----- > Fro

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-21 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Syed, 2GB of memory is not much for Vista. I would suggest at least 3GB. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > Hmmm ... I would suggest doing some testing to see if you see what I > just saw ... I decided to try to duplicate what I was reading here. I > have a

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-21 Thread Fred Ridder
Responding to Syed Hosain, Rick Quatro wrote: > 2GB of memory is not much for Vista. I would suggest at least 3GB. The 32-bit versions of Vista can only address 3 GB of memory, so more than that amount doesn't improve performance unless you're running the 64-bit (Ultimate) version of Vista.

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-21 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
, January 21, 2009 7:36 AM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC Hi Syed, 2GB of memory is not much for Vista. I would suggest at least 3GB. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-21 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
Fred Ridder said: ? The 32-bit versions of Vista can only address 3 GB of memory, so more than that amount doesn't improve performance unless you're running the 64-bit (Ultimate) version of Vista. Yup! But you don't have to go all the way to Ultimate 64. Just as an FYI, there is a Vista

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-21 Thread Alan Barber
Well, it doesn't work that way for me. Laptop: four year old Sony, optimized for battery life over performance; 1.2 GHz, .5 GB RAM (!!), XP SP3; FM8p273. Desktop: Dual CPU 2.13 GHz, 4GB RAM, Vista SP1; FM8p277. With the desktop it takes six seconds to scroll across two 90character lines with

RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-20 Thread Reng, Winfried
@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC The designer boxes may have caused the problem, but you're going to run into more problems with only 1G of RAM. That's a very minimal amount... 2G or more is recommended if you work with long documents or want to have another

Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-20 Thread Avraham Makeler
To: Avraham Makeler Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC The designer boxes may have caused the problem, but you're going to run into more problems with only 1G of RAM. That's a very minimal amount... 2G or more is recommended if you work

Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-20 Thread Mike Wickham
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:30 AM Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC I have demo-ed to myself that it is the Para Designer dial box that clobbers my editing speed. It's repeatable on my machine. Every computer architecture is different. So I just found

Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-20 Thread Dave Reynolds
. Hopefully, this issue will be fixed with FrameMaker 9. Yes, I'm an optimist. :) Mike Wickham - Original Message - From: Avraham Makeler amake...@gmail.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:30 AM Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC I have

RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-20 Thread Syed.Hosain
-Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:52 AM To: Avraham Makeler; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC I have the same slow

RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-20 Thread Kelly McDaniel
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of syed.hos...@aeris.net Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:19 PM To: Mike Wickham; Avraham Makeler; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC This pretty much sums up what I saw with some testing too, but I did

RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-20 Thread Combs, Richard
syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: My results *definitely* confirmed that the cursor movement with the arrows is MUCH faster with the designer boxes not visible. Since I have a fast computer, I had only seen a bit of sluggishness in the past (I keep the Paragraph, Character and Table designer

Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-20 Thread Mike Wickham
But what I don't understand is why so many Framers are saying they work with some or all of the Designer dialogs open. Why? Are you all creating new formats on the fly, continually as you write?? Mostly it's just for convenience. My templates are stable, so I don't change or create formats

RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-20 Thread Syed.Hosain
Richard Combs wrote: Your explanation makes sense, and suggests that the degree of slowdown will depend on how many different pgf and char tags the cursor moves through. There's a lot of information displayed in the Designer dialogs, and if it changes every few characters or lines... I *think*

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-20 Thread Reng, Winfried
raham Makeler > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC > > The designer boxes may have caused the problem, but you're > going to run into > more problems with only 1G of RAM. That's a very minimal > amount... 2G or > more is r

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-20 Thread Avraham Makeler
rs.com] On Behalf Of > > Art Campbell > > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:20 PM > > To: Avraham Makeler > > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > > Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC > > > > The designer boxes may have caused the problem, bu

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-20 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
> I often have lots of dialog boxes open (e.g. paragraph/character designer, marker window), and I do not notice anything special. Specifically jumping around with the insertion mark or selecting text is fast. > I have FM 8.0p277, 1 GB RAM, Windows 2000 Professional. > Therefore I do not think

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-20 Thread Mike Wickham
...@gmail.com> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:30 AM Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC I have demo-ed to myself that it is the Para Designer dial box that clobbers my editing speed. It's repeatable on my machine. Every computer architecture is different. So I just found a weak

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-20 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
, Mike! Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:52 AM To: Avraham Makeler; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC I hav

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-20 Thread Kelly McDaniel
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed.Hosain at aeris.net Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:19 PM To: Mike Wickham; Avraham Makeler; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC This pretty much sums up what I saw with some testing too, but I

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-20 Thread Combs, Richard
Syed.Hosain at aeris.net wrote: > My results *definitely* confirmed that the cursor movement with the > arrows is MUCH faster with the designer boxes not visible. Since I have > a fast computer, I had only seen a bit of sluggishness in the past (I > keep the Paragraph, Character and Table

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-20 Thread Mike Wickham
> But what I don't understand is why so many Framers are saying they work > with some or all of the Designer dialogs open. Why? Are you all creating > new formats on the fly, continually as you write?? Mostly it's just for convenience. My templates are stable, so I don't change or create formats

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-20 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
Richard Combs wrote: > Your explanation makes sense, and suggests that the degree of slowdown will depend on how many different pgf and char tags the cursor moves through. There's a lot of information displayed in the Designer dialogs, and if it changes every few characters or lines... I *think*

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-19 Thread Avraham Makeler
Hi all, FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC. I mean trivial cursor tasks like jumping the cursor from one word to another or selecting text. My PC is a 2.8 GHz Pentium IV (full architecture) and it is really fast and great for everything else. FM7.2 is much more snappy on my PC. Has anybody else

Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-19 Thread Stephen O'Brien
Hi, Same thing happens to me with FM 8..when the Hypertext dialog box is open... Have a nice day! At 12:31 PM 19/01/2009, Avraham Makeler wrote: Hi all, FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC. I mean trivial cursor tasks like jumping the cursor from one word to another or selecting text. My PC

Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-19 Thread Art Campbell
: Hi all, FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC. I mean trivial cursor tasks like jumping the cursor from one word to another or selecting text. My PC is a 2.8 GHz Pentium IV (full architecture) and it is really fast and great for everything else. FM7.2 is much more snappy on my PC. Has anybody

Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-19 Thread Avraham Makeler
...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC. I mean trivial cursor tasks like jumping the cursor from one word to another or selecting text. My PC is a 2.8 GHz Pentium IV (full architecture) and it is really fast and great for everything else. FM7.2 is much more snappy on my PC

Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-19 Thread Avraham Makeler
, Stephen O'Brien sobr...@innovmetric.comwrote: Hi, Same thing happens to me with FM 8..when the Hypertext dialog box is open... Have a nice day! At 12:31 PM 19/01/2009, Avraham Makeler wrote: Hi all, FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC. I mean trivial cursor tasks like jumping the cursor

RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-19 Thread Kelly McDaniel
...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Avraham Makeler Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 1:10 PM To: Stephen O'Brien Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC Stephen you're a genius! I was l always working with the Designer dial boxes open (definitely more

Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-19 Thread Art Campbell
: Hi all, FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC. I mean trivial cursor tasks like jumping the cursor from one word to another or selecting text. My PC is a 2.8 GHz Pentium IV (full architecture) and it is really fast and great for everything else. FM7.2 is much more snappy on my PC

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-19 Thread Avraham Makeler
Hi all, FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC. I mean trivial cursor tasks like jumping the cursor from one word to another or selecting text. My PC is a 2.8 GHz Pentium IV (full architecture) and it is really fast and great for everything else. FM7.2 is much more snappy on my PC. Has anybody else

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-19 Thread Stephen O'Brien
Hi, Same thing happens to me with FM 8..when the Hypertext dialog box is open... Have a nice day! At 12:31 PM 19/01/2009, Avraham Makeler wrote: >Hi all, >FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC. I mean trivial cursor tasks like jumping >the cursor from one word to another or selecting te

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-19 Thread Art Campbell
Hi all, > FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC. I mean trivial cursor tasks like jumping > the cursor from one word to another or selecting text. My PC is a 2.8 GHz > Pentium IV (full architecture) and it is really fast and great for > everything else. > > FM7.2 is much more snappy

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-19 Thread Avraham Makeler
ses, avi On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Avraham Makeler wrote: > Hi all, > FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC. I mean trivial cursor tasks like jumping > the cursor from one word to another or selecting text. My PC is a 2.8 GHz > Pentium IV (full architecture) and it is rea

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-19 Thread Avraham Makeler
, Stephen O'Brien wrote: > Hi, > > Same thing happens to me with FM 8..when the Hypertext dialog box is > open... > > Have a nice day! > > > At 12:31 PM 19/01/2009, Avraham Makeler wrote: > >> Hi all, >> FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC. I mean trivial curso

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-19 Thread Kelly McDaniel
...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Avraham Makeler Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 1:10 PM To: Stephen O'Brien Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC Stephen you're a genius! I was l always working with the Designer dial boxes open (definitely more

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

2009-01-19 Thread Art Campbell
gt; > > Have a nice day! > > > > > > At 12:31 PM 19/01/2009, Avraham Makeler wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC. I mean trivial cursor tasks like > >> jumping > >> the cursor from one word to another or selecting t