2012-12-10-01T12:55Z
All -
Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
PC, but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New
York, Not for nothin', but . . . please
At 05:57 -0700 10/12/12, dave.st...@gdc4s.com wrote:
Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
PC, but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New
York
From: dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
PC, but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New
York, Not for nothin
Hi Dave,
Some answers:
1. The latest native FrameMaker version for Mac was 7 or 7.1.
2., 3. You run virtualization software like Parallels or Fusion on the Mac
so you can install Windows and Windows programs. Then you can run the any
version of FrameMaker that will run on Windows.
Rick
Rick
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Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a "PC," but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New York, "Not for nothin', but..." please answer a
At 10:03 -0500 10/12/12, Alan Houser wrote:
An interesting tidbit...if you check the properties of Apple's PDF-format user
manuals, you will still see FrameMaker 6 and 7 with surprising frequency.
I am still using it here, as it does all that I need. Trouble is, it's locking
me into OS X 10.4,
: 2012-12-10-Monday 10:34
To: Alan Houser; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Running FrameMaker on Mac workstations
At 10:03 -0500 10/12/12, Alan Houser wrote:
An interesting tidbit...if you check the properties of Apple's
PDF-format user manuals, you will still see FrameMaker 6 and 7
: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 10:11 AM
To: srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk; a...@groupwellesley.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Running FrameMaker on Mac
2012-12-10-01T12:55Z
All -
Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
"PC," but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New
York, "Not for nothin', bu
At 05:57 -0700 10/12/12, wrote:
>Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
>"PC," but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
>workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New
>
> From: Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com
>
> Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
> "PC," but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
> workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New
Hi Dave,
Some answers:
1. The latest native FrameMaker version for Mac was 7 or 7.1.
2., 3. You run virtualization software like Parallels or Fusion on the Mac
so you can install Windows and Windows programs. Then you can run the any
version of FrameMaker that will run on Windows.
Rick
Rick
e die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
> workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New
> York, "Not for nothin', but . . ." please answer a few questions.
>
> 1. What was the last version of FrameMaker for the Mac that was release
At 10:03 -0500 10/12/12, Alan Houser wrote:
>An interesting tidbit...if you check the properties of Apple's PDF-format user
>manuals, you will still see FrameMaker 6 and 7 with surprising frequency.
I am still using it here, as it does all that I need. Trouble is, it's locking
me into OS X
: 2012-12-10-Monday 10:34
To: Alan Houser; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Running FrameMaker on Mac workstations
At 10:03 -0500 10/12/12, Alan Houser wrote:
>An interesting tidbit...if you check the properties of Apple's
PDF-format user manuals, you will still see FrameMaker 6 an
Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: 2012-12-10-Monday 10:34
To: Alan Houser; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Running FrameMaker on Mac workstations
At 10:03 -0500 10/12/12, Alan Houser wrote:
>An interesting tidbit...if you check the properties of Apple's
PDF-format user manuals, you will still
ree--be careful with TransType Pro--a great program, but triple-check
> the font license.
>
> Dave Creamer
> IDEAS Training
> http://www.ideastraining.com
>
>
> *
> Sometime later this year I'll be moving from FrameMaker 7.2 on Mac (in
> Classic) to FrameMaker 10 for
gt; Dave Creamer
> IDEAS Training
> http://www.ideastraining.com
>
>
> *
> Sometime later this year I'll be moving from FrameMaker 7.2 on Mac (in
> Classic) to FrameMaker 10 for Windows running under emulation on a new Mac
> in either Parallels or VMWare Fusion
now didn't import.
Alan
On 24/06/12 4:56 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote:
> Sometime later this year I'll be moving from FrameMaker 7.2 on Mac (in
> Classic) to FrameMaker 10 for Windows running under emulation on a new Mac in
> either Parallels or VMWare Fusion.
>
> Clearly this will lo
At 15:13 -0700 23/6/12, David Creamer wrote:
I prefer Parallels, but you should check out both.
Yes, true. I think there are some comparative reviews on line.
I'd be interested in knowing the reasons for your preference, but maybe offline
as it's not directly relevant to FrameMaker.
I just
Pro--a great program, but triple-check
the font license.
Dave Creamer
IDEAS Training
http://www.ideastraining.com
*
Sometime later this year I'll be moving from FrameMaker 7.2 on Mac (in
Classic) to FrameMaker 10 for Windows running under emulation on a new Mac
in either Parallels
http://www.ideastraining.com
*
Sometime later this year I'll be moving from FrameMaker 7.2 on Mac (in
Classic) to FrameMaker 10 for Windows running under emulation on a new Mac
in either Parallels or VMWare Fusion.
Clearly this will lose FrameMaker's access to my font library in Classic
now didn't import.
Alan
On 24/06/12 4:56 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote:
Sometime later this year I'll be moving from FrameMaker 7.2 on Mac (in Classic)
to FrameMaker 10 for Windows running under emulation on a new Mac in either
Parallels or VMWare Fusion.
Clearly this will lose FrameMaker's access
At 15:13 -0700 23/6/12, David Creamer wrote:
>I prefer Parallels, but you should check out both.
Yes, true. I think there are some comparative reviews on line.
I'd be interested in knowing the reasons for your preference, but maybe offline
as it's not directly relevant to FrameMaker.
I just
Sometime later this year I'll be moving from FrameMaker 7.2 on Mac (in Classic)
to FrameMaker 10 for Windows running under emulation on a new Mac in either
Parallels or VMWare Fusion.
Clearly this will lose FrameMaker's access to my font library in Classic, but I
am constrained to work
://www.ideastraining.com
*
Sometime later this year I'll be moving from FrameMaker 7.2 on Mac (in
Classic) to FrameMaker 10 for Windows running under emulation on a new Mac
in either Parallels or VMWare Fusion.
Clearly this will lose FrameMaker's access to my font library in Classic,
but I am
Sometime later this year I'll be moving from FrameMaker 7.2 on Mac (in Classic)
to FrameMaker 10 for Windows running under emulation on a new Mac in either
Parallels or VMWare Fusion.
Clearly this will lose FrameMaker's access to my font library in Classic, but I
am constrained to work
://www.ideastraining.com
*
Sometime later this year I'll be moving from FrameMaker 7.2 on Mac (in
Classic) to FrameMaker 10 for Windows running under emulation on a new Mac
in either Parallels or VMWare Fusion.
Clearly this will lose FrameMaker's access to my font library in Classic,
but I am
, Boot Camp is dual boot. A dual-boot Mac is no use to me, because I need to
use a lot of other software *at the same time* as FrameMaker, cross-referencing
Excel, mail and so on. One could do this most easily by networking a real PC to
the Mac, and running FrameMaker on that.
I was at IPEX
A colleague posed this question to me about running Apple's Boot Camp
What I would like to know is if you prepared a graphic in, say, OSX
Photoshop, and you wanted to import it into Windows FrameMaker, would
the OSes cooperate? Could you save the file across the partition?
Or would you have to
One of the Mac lists (MacFixIt or one of those) noted that if you
format the Windows side with FAT32, you can see both partitions from
both OSs, but the newer default XP format exceeds the limitations of
FAT32, so most users don't bother fighting the default.
So, you'd have to use a memory
I'm repeating a post I made yesterday, but this will obviate the procedures
listed below.
This is preferable to a dual boot scenario.
http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/04/06/parallels/index.php
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At 11:28 AM -0500 4/7/06, Peter Gold wrote:
One of the Mac lists (MacFixIt or one of those)
A good work around may be to install a second hard drive and reserve
it for data, possibly from both OSes...
Art
On 4/7/06, Peter Gold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One of the Mac lists (MacFixIt or one of those) noted that if you
format the Windows side with FAT32, you can see both partitions
I think more to your point might be: If Apple is making most of its
money in the music
business, how much incentive is there to continue to develop Mac aps
and other software
Art
On 4/7/06, Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I was at IPEX on Wednesday, the big 4-yearly UK show for
P.S. But I still want a Native version. Virtualization is the spawn of evil.
It *would* be nice if the Unix version could be ported over to OS X, but the
Windows dual-boot option is not a virtualization, like Virtual PC.
It is actually running Windows on the computer.
As a trainer, I look
At 12:50 PM -0700 4/7/06, David Creamer wrote:
P.S. But I still want a Native version. Virtualization is the spawn of evil.
It *would* be nice if the Unix version could be ported over to OS X, but the
Windows dual-boot option is not a virtualization, like Virtual PC.
It is actually running
Much more interesting to Mac Framemaker users than Apple's Boot Camp
are Parallels' XP emulator (now shipping beta) and -- especially --
the Open Source project for something called Darwine. Based on
Wine, a Linux project, Darwine will allow a user to run a Windows
application under OS
;users.
Yes, Boot Camp is dual boot. A dual-boot Mac is no use to me, because I need to
use a lot of other software *at the same time* as FrameMaker, cross-referencing
Excel, mail and so on. One could do this most easily by networking a real PC to
the Mac, and running FrameMaker on that.
I
A colleague posed this question to me about running Apple's Boot Camp
>>What I would like to know is if you prepared a graphic in, say, OSX
Photoshop, and you wanted to import it into Windows FrameMaker, would
the OSes cooperate? Could you save the file across the partition?
Or would you have to
One of the Mac lists (MacFixIt or one of those) noted that if you
format the Windows side with FAT32, you can see both partitions from
both OSs, but the newer default XP format exceeds the limitations of
FAT32, so most users don't bother fighting the default.
So, you'd have to use a memory
I'm repeating a post I made yesterday, but this will obviate the procedures
listed below.
This is preferable to a dual boot scenario.
http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/04/06/parallels/index.php
- web
At 11:28 AM -0500 4/7/06, Peter Gold wrote:
>One of the Mac lists (MacFixIt or one of those)
A good work around may be to install a second hard drive and reserve
it for data, possibly from both OSes...
Art
On 4/7/06, Peter Gold wrote:
> One of the Mac lists (MacFixIt or one of those) noted that if you
> format the Windows side with FAT32, you can see both partitions from
> both OSs,
I think more to your point might be: If Apple is making most of its
money in the music
business, how much incentive is there to continue to develop Mac aps
and other software
Art
On 4/7/06, Steve Rickaby wrote:
> I was at IPEX on Wednesday, the big 4-yearly UK show for the printing and
>
> P.S. But I still want a Native version. Virtualization is the spawn of evil.
It *would* be nice if the Unix version could be ported over to OS X, but the
Windows dual-boot option is not a virtualization, like Virtual PC.
It is actually running Windows on the computer.
As a trainer, I look
At 12:50 PM -0700 4/7/06, David Creamer wrote:
> > P.S. But I still want a Native version. Virtualization is the spawn of evil.
>
>It *would* be nice if the Unix version could be ported over to OS X, but the
>Windows dual-boot option is not a virtualization, like Virtual PC.
>It is actually
Much more interesting to Mac Framemaker users than Apple's Boot Camp
are Parallels' XP emulator (now shipping beta) and -- especially --
the Open Source project for something called "Darwine". Based on
Wine, a Linux project, Darwine will allow a user to run a Windows
applicatio
Bill Briggs wrote:
At 6:02 PM -0700 4/5/06, RJ Jacquez wrote:
in general I believe that this is a great time to be a FrameMaker
user
I'm surprised that a Mac user can say such a thing with a straight
face. I've got 13 years worth of FrameMaker collateral on my Mac and
it's a profoundly
At 12:41 PM -0400 4/6/06, Stuart Rogers wrote:
Bill Briggs wrote:
At 6:02 PM -0700 4/5/06, RJ Jacquez wrote:
in general I believe that this is a great time to be a FrameMaker
user
I'm surprised that a Mac user can say such a thing with a straight
face. I've got 13 years worth of FrameMaker
Too bad Jobs isn't as much a Mac fanatic as Mac fanatics are
Art
On 4/6/06, Bill Briggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 12:41 PM -0400 4/6/06, Stuart Rogers wrote:
Bill Briggs wrote:
At 6:02 PM -0700 4/5/06, RJ Jacquez wrote:
in general I believe that this is a great time to be a FrameMaker
At this stage I wouldn't even speculate on what motivates Steve Jobs, or what
he's fanatical about. And that may have changed since his close brush with the
mortality (pancreatic cancer). One detects a change in his outlook.
I don't know that we Mac users are fanatics. I switched from windows a
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Art Campbell
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 11:47 AM
To: Bill Briggs
Cc: Framers
Subject: Re: FrameMaker on Mac
Too bad Jobs isn't as much a Mac fanatic as Mac fanatics are
Art
On 4/6/06, Bill Briggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Hi Bill,
I appreciate your comments, but I would rather keep my primary application
(FrameMaker), even if I had to run it on a foreign operating system like
Windows XP. The ability to run FrameMaker on the Mac via Windows may be a
compromise, but it has to be better than switching
At 5:13 PM -0400 4/6/06, Rick Quatro wrote:
And I think that the increased popularity of OS X would cause Apple's hardware
sales to increase as well.
Maybe, maybe not. That's the tough call. It didn't work in the clone era,
and I'm not sure it would now. Don't forget that Apple is first and
True, Apple is a hardware company, but the real money in computers is in
software. Just ask Bill Gates. The question is, how much hardware revenue
would Apple lose by such a move? Do people buy Apple for the hardware or for
the software experience? Hopefully, they would gain many customers that
On Apr 6, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Stuart Rogers wrote:
Don't know if it will be good news to mac users or not... but it was
reported in the paper today that Apple Computer Inc. released new
software yesterday that lets users of its newest computers run
Microsoft Corp.'s dominant Windows XP
Bill Briggs wrote:
> At 6:02 PM -0700 4/5/06, RJ Jacquez wrote:
>> in general I believe that this is a great time to be a FrameMaker
>> user
>
> I'm surprised that a Mac user can say such a thing with a straight
> face. I've got 13 years worth of FrameMaker collateral on my Mac and
> it's a
At 12:41 PM -0400 4/6/06, Stuart Rogers wrote:
>Bill Briggs wrote:
>>At 6:02 PM -0700 4/5/06, RJ Jacquez wrote:
>>>in general I believe that this is a great time to be a FrameMaker
>>>user
>>
>>I'm surprised that a Mac user can say such a thing with a straight
>>face. I've got 13 years worth of
Too bad Jobs isn't as much a Mac fanatic as Mac fanatics are
Art
On 4/6/06, Bill Briggs wrote:
> At 12:41 PM -0400 4/6/06, Stuart Rogers wrote:
> >Bill Briggs wrote:
> >>At 6:02 PM -0700 4/5/06, RJ Jacquez wrote:
> >>>in general I believe that this is a great time to be a FrameMaker
>
At this stage I wouldn't even speculate on what motivates Steve Jobs, or what
he's fanatical about. And that may have changed since his close brush with the
mortality (pancreatic cancer). One detects a change in his outlook.
I don't know that we Mac users are fanatics. I switched from windows a
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From: framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Art Campbell
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 11:47 AM
To: Bill Briggs
Cc: Framers
Subject: Re: FrameMaker on Mac
Too bad Jobs isn't as much a Mac fanatic
Hi Bill,
I appreciate your comments, but I would rather keep my primary application
(FrameMaker), even if I had to run it on a "foreign" operating system like
Windows XP. The ability to run FrameMaker on the Mac via Windows may be a
compromise, but it has to be better than
At 5:13 PM -0400 4/6/06, Rick Quatro wrote:
>And I think that the increased popularity of OS X would cause Apple's hardware
>sales to increase as well.
Maybe, maybe not. That's the tough call. It didn't work in the "clone" era,
and I'm not sure it would now. Don't forget that Apple is first
True, Apple is a hardware company, but the real money in computers is in
software. Just ask Bill Gates. The question is, how much hardware revenue
would Apple lose by such a move? Do people buy Apple for the hardware or for
the software experience? Hopefully, they would gain many customers that
On Apr 6, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Stuart Rogers wrote:
>
> Don't know if it will be good news to mac users or not... but it was
> reported in the paper today that "Apple Computer Inc. released new
> software yesterday that lets users of its newest computers run
> Microsoft Corp.'s dominant Windows XP
Dear Supporter,
Apple introduced its first Intel-based Macs in January and intends to
transition the entire range from PowerPC to Intel by the end of the
year. This is significant for Mac FrameMaker users because the new
Intel Macs don't support the Classic environment and cannot run
Dear Supporter,
Apple introduced its first Intel-based Macs in January and intends to
transition the entire range from PowerPC to Intel by the end of the
year. This is significant for Mac FrameMaker users because the new
Intel Macs don't support the Classic environment and cannot run
If you would like to see Adobe support FrameMaker on the Mac platform,
sign the petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/petition-sign.cgi?fmforosx
Also, if you haven't seen the new Macs that use Intel chips (those same
pesky chips used in your Windows machines) see, What's an Intel
At 11:16 AM -0500 1/15/06, Scott Abel wrote:
If you would like to see Adobe support FrameMaker on the Mac platform, sign
the petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/petition-sign.cgi?fmforosx
What's up with the link? It's showing the HTML in my browser window. Strange.
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wrote:
If you would like to see Adobe support FrameMaker on the Mac platform, sign
the petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/petition-sign.cgi?fmforosx
What's up with the link? It's showing the HTML in my browser window. Strange.
- web
If you would like to see Adobe support FrameMaker on the Mac platform,
sign the petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/petition-sign.cgi?fmforosx
Also, if you haven't seen the new Macs that use Intel chips (those same
pesky chips used in your Windows machines) see, "What's an
wrote:
> At 11:16 AM -0500 1/15/06, Scott Abel wrote:
>> If you would like to see Adobe support FrameMaker on the Mac
>> platform, sign the petition:
>>
>> http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/petition-sign.cgi?fmforosx
>
> What's up with the link? It's show
At 11:16 AM -0500 1/15/06, Scott Abel wrote:
>If you would like to see Adobe support FrameMaker on the Mac platform, sign
>the petition:
>
>http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/petition-sign.cgi?fmforosx
What's up with the link? It's showing the HTML in my browser window. Strange.
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t;
>
>On Jan 15, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Bill Briggs wrote:
>
>>At 11:16 AM -0500 1/15/06, Scott Abel wrote:
>>>If you would like to see Adobe support FrameMaker on the Mac platform, sign
>>>the petition:
>>>
>>>http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_
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