OT: Word to PDF

[Tammy . VanBoening]

Since we are blessed to have so many acrobat gurus on this list:

Windows XP
Adobe Acrobat Professional 6.0
MS Word 2002

Inherited a Word doc with 143 pages, 2.99 MB that I need to convert to 
PDF. I have done a Save As and renamed to preserve the original and ensure 
that I know it is a Word 2002 doc that I am working with. I have done 
everything I know in my power to get this sucker to convert to a PDF 
-Wwithin Word using both PDFMaker and the Adobe PDF Printer. I have also 
tried from within Adobe Acrobat and no matter what I do, barf, crash, bang 
. ..  I cannot get this document to convert. I get the classic error 
message about flushing offending stack and not producing the PDF.

What should I be looking for/troubleshooting in this otherwise fruitless 
endeavor?

Thanks!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Aviation Courseware Development
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
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Re: OT: Word to PDF

[Tammy . VanBoening]

FWIW:

The error message in it's entirety:

%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
%%[ Error: rangecheck; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: View 
--nostringval-- ]%%

Stack:
/DOCVIEW
[/FitH]
/View
/UseOutlines
/PageMode
-dict-


%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Aviation Courseware Development
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
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Since we are blessed to have so many acrobat gurus on this list:

Windows XP
Adobe Acrobat Professional 6.0
MS Word 2002

Inherited a Word doc with 143 pages, 2.99 MB that I need to convert to 
PDF. I have done a Save As and renamed to preserve the original and ensure 

that I know it is a Word 2002 doc that I am working with. I have done 
everything I know in my power to get this sucker to convert to a PDF 
-Wwithin Word using both PDFMaker and the Adobe PDF Printer. I have also 
tried from within Adobe Acrobat and no matter what I do, barf, crash, bang 

. ..  I cannot get this document to convert. I get the classic error 
message about flushing offending stack and not producing the PDF.

What should I be looking for/troubleshooting in this otherwise fruitless 
endeavor?

Thanks!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Aviation Courseware Development
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
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manipulating headers / footers through API?

[Jakob Fix]

Hello,

I'm currently exploring the feasibility to modify/update what is
displayed in the running footer through an API client which reads
information from an initialization file, and updates the footer
accordingly, like this:

maker.ini
8<8<
[MyInitSection]
initfile = TestInit.ini

TestInit.ini
8<8<
[Publication1]
FooterCenter="DRAFT"
FooterBinding="January 2006"


Now, it can't be very hard to read these configuration settings from
within an API client.  However, what I'm currently struggling with is
how to access the footer of my document.  So far, I've found this:

FO_MasterPage
-> FP_PageFrame (which is a FO_UnanchoredFrame)
   -> FP_FirstGraphicInFrame and then
   -> FP_NextGraphicInFrame (apparently TextFrames are "graphics")
  -> use this object's objId with F_ApiGetText
  -> and then F_ApiDeleteText and F_ApiAddText

All this comes from reading the FDK reference and the FDK Guide. As I
said I'm investigating this because we may hire a programmer to do
this (and more), but I'm no C++ programmer myself, so testing out the
above would take me quite some time.

BTW, we're currently updating the information in the footer through
text insets located in a separate file (I guess that this may be your
first suggestion to "do it another way"), but we'd like to centralize
information like this in one easy-to-manage configuration text file
for each publication.

Thanks in advance.
--
cheers,
Jakob.

manipulating headers / footers through API?

[Niels Fanøe]

Hi Jakob,

Can't you manipulate the markers "Header/Footer $1" and "Header/Footer $2" 
instead, and just include those markers in the footer? 

I've made a FrameScript program that does this in order to create footers for 
an index, so I guess you can do that with the API. Might prove easier.

Best regards,
Niels

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+nfa=maconomy.dk at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+nfa=maconomy.dk at lists.frameusers.com] 
> On Behalf Of Jakob Fix
> Sent: 11. januar 2006 12:25
> To: Framers List
> Subject: manipulating headers / footers through API?
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm currently exploring the feasibility to modify/update what 
> is displayed in the running footer through an API client 
> which reads information from an initialization file, and 
> updates the footer accordingly, like this:
> 
> maker.ini
> 8<8<
> [MyInitSection]
> initfile = TestInit.ini
> 
> TestInit.ini
> 8<8<
> [Publication1]
> FooterCenter="DRAFT"
> FooterBinding="January 2006"
> 
> 
> Now, it can't be very hard to read these configuration 
> settings from within an API client.  However, what I'm 
> currently struggling with is how to access the footer of my 
> document.  So far, I've found this:
> 
> FO_MasterPage
> -> FP_PageFrame (which is a FO_UnanchoredFrame)
>-> FP_FirstGraphicInFrame and then
>-> FP_NextGraphicInFrame (apparently TextFrames are "graphics")
>   -> use this object's objId with F_ApiGetText
>   -> and then F_ApiDeleteText and F_ApiAddText
> 
> All this comes from reading the FDK reference and the FDK 
> Guide. As I said I'm investigating this because we may hire a 
> programmer to do this (and more), but I'm no C++ programmer 
> myself, so testing out the above would take me quite some time.
> 
> BTW, we're currently updating the information in the footer 
> through text insets located in a separate file (I guess that 
> this may be your first suggestion to "do it another way"), 
> but we'd like to centralize information like this in one 
> easy-to-manage configuration text file for each publication.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> --
> cheers,
> Jakob.
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Mif2Go problem

[don...@shomrat.com]

Good morning all,
I am using FM 7, Mif2Go build b101, and compiling with HTML 
Help Workshop
ver. 4.74.8702.0.

I have two problems with my Help file:
1. My secondary windows do not open.  Jumps within the help 
file default
window work fine.  Only my jumps to the secondary windows 
don't work.  I
have defined a character format called largewindow and a 
corresponding help
window called large.  In my Mif2Go ini file my definition is 
as follows:

[SecWindows]

Default=default

largewindow=large



2. I want my windows to be "topmost" over the application 
associated with
the Help.  If I define my windows as Topmost my popups 
(defined as alert in
FM) come up behind the help window.



Everything else seems OK.  Can anyone help me out with these 
problems?

Regaards,
Donny Golden
Philips Medical Systems
MATAM, Haifa
Israel

manipulating headers / footers through API?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Jakob,

Instead of adding text to the footer directly, you can add variables to the 
footers. Then, use your API client to modify the variables' values.

You are right that text frames are graphics. The FDK has a function for 
determining if a graphic is a text frame, etc. Header/Footer text frames are 
untagged, that is, their flow name is a NULL string; you can use this to 
distinguish them from main flow text frames on the master pages.

You may find this easier to code with FrameScript rather than the FDK. 
FrameScript has functions for reading and writing INI files.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


Hello,

I'm currently exploring the feasibility to modify/update what is
displayed in the running footer through an API client which reads
information from an initialization file, and updates the footer
accordingly, like this:

maker.ini
8<8<
[MyInitSection]
initfile = TestInit.ini

TestInit.ini
8<8<
[Publication1]
FooterCenter="DRAFT"
FooterBinding="January 2006"


Now, it can't be very hard to read these configuration settings from
within an API client.  However, what I'm currently struggling with is
how to access the footer of my document.  So far, I've found this:

FO_MasterPage
-> FP_PageFrame (which is a FO_UnanchoredFrame)
   -> FP_FirstGraphicInFrame and then
   -> FP_NextGraphicInFrame (apparently TextFrames are "graphics")
  -> use this object's objId with F_ApiGetText
  -> and then F_ApiDeleteText and F_ApiAddText

All this comes from reading the FDK reference and the FDK Guide. As I
said I'm investigating this because we may hire a programmer to do
this (and more), but I'm no C++ programmer myself, so testing out the
above would take me quite some time.

BTW, we're currently updating the information in the footer through
text insets located in a separate file (I guess that this may be your
first suggestion to "do it another way"), but we'd like to centralize
information like this in one easy-to-manage configuration text file
for each publication.

Thanks in advance.
--
cheers,
Jakob.
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Kerning of space in FrameMaker

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Greg,
This is just a stab in the dark but is FrameMaker capable of recognizing the
modified kerning? FrameMaker is Unicode blind and as such cannot see
anything beyond the standard ANSI 256 characters.
After the registry song and dance I had to do to get it to recognize
Cyrillic and Baltic glyphs in my Myriad Pro fonts, I'm not so sure it's
capable of reading the kerning changes, so it defaults to the standard for
that font.
InDesign and Word, on the other hand, are Unicode savvy, so I'm not
surprised they sees the changes. Is this an OpenType font by any chance?

Berny Gagn?
Sr. Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Typesetting
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:24 PM
To: 'Fred Ridder'
Cc: FrameUsers
Subject: RE: Kerning of space in FrameMaker

Fred, 

Thanks, but I am not talking about the on-screen appearance. I did not know
about this ini file setting, however, what I am referring to is the actual
PDF and hardcopy appearance. 

And it only concerns the space character. Like I add 30 units of kerning
between the f and the space (inside the font with FontLab) and this added
kerning does not show up even if I turn on the kerning pairs in FrameMaker. 

However, this kerning does show up in InDesign or Microsoft Word.

Best, Greg

-Original Message-
From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 1:37 PM
To: typeset at goldeneraproductions.org
Subject: RE: Kerning of space in FrameMaker

Are you talking about on-sreeen appearance? In hard copy? In PDF?
If the kerning is OK in print and/or PDF, you need to look at the
DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics item in your maker.ini file to see whether it's
equated to Off or On.

Fred Ridder
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


>From: "Typesetting" 
>To: "FrameUsers" 
>Subject: Kerning of space in FrameMaker
>Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 10:34:58 -0800
>
>Dear Framers,
>
>I have found (I believe it is) a bug) in FrameMaker in regards to 
>kerning pairs.
>
>I have FontLab and I, for example, kerned two characters which are the 
>f and the space. I did that because the f was "leaning over" to the 
>right and was touching the first letter of the word. For example: "of 
>How" where f touched the H even though there was space entered in 
>between.
>
>So I opened the font and fixed the kerning pair of the f and the space. 
>It looked great.
>
>I install the font and the characters are still crashing. Of course the 
>Pair Kern was turned ON.
>
>Then I checked the same thing in MS Word and InDesign and when the 
>kerning was turned on, the kerning pair I did inside the font was 
>applied and showed up.
>
>But not in FrameMaker.
>
>Does anyone know about this and know how to handle it? Any plug-ins or 
>FrameScript for this?
>
>Any data would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Best, Greg
>

OT: Sourcerer CMCodes.h file

[Rick Quatro]

Hello Framers,

I am trying to call Sourcerer from a FrameScript script. Sourcerer is 
supposed to have a CMCodes.h file which sets constants for Sourcerer return 
values. If anyone has this file, please let me know, and I may ask you to 
email it to me. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

Setting runaround properties on a table

[Shelly, Heather]

Hi,
I tried to search the archives on this one and did not find an answer. I've 
also looked in the FM online Help, and Googled this issue, but have not found a 
solution to the problem. I'm probably missing something really simple, but any 
help would be appreciated. 

System specifications: Unstructured FrameMaker 6.0p405 on Windows XP, SP1

I'm completing the work on templates that someone else created. The templates 
are Marketing documents with a 2-column format. In some cases, writers will 
need a table to straddle both columns of the page. The text must flow above and 
below the table in both columns. Right now, if text starts in Column A and runs 
into a table that straddles both columns across the page, the text that 
continues over from the first column only flows *below* the table; it does not 
flow above the table into the top of Column B. I need for the text to flow 
above and below straddled tables in these documents.

I've tried tweaking the table properties, and the properties of the paragraph 
to which the table is anchored, but I am not having any luck. Any ideas? ?

Thanks!
Heather Shelly


Thank you,
Heather Shelly
Information Development Specialist
Information Infrastructure Department
BMC Software, Inc.
(713) 918-4766

Sourcerer CMCodes.h file

[Etzel, Gary]

> I am trying to call Sourcerer from a FrameScript script. Sourcerer is 
> supposed to have a CMCodes.h file which sets constants for Sourcerer
return 
> values. If anyone has this file, please let me know, and I may ask you to 
> email it to me. Thank you very much.

Hi Rick, I will send you the file in a separate email. I'm not sure how long
it has been left out of our install, but you are the first person to report
it. If anyone else needs the file, email me off-list and I will send it your
way.

Regards,

Gary



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Answer: Re: Odd bug printing FM to PDF

[Diane Gaskill]

I'm not sure whetehr to call it a bug or not, but it's definitely a known 
problem.   Anytime there is a character font change in the text of a link in 
the FM file, the link ends at that point.  And of the text that includes the 
link does not completely define the destination, the link does not work in he 
PDF file.  It does not matter whether the link is automatically generated or 
manually created.  I've worked around that by manually inserting a link on the 
far side of the font change, but I don't know how to do it automatically.  
Shlomo might have something on his site about that, or email him directly at 
shlomo at microtype.com and ask.   

Hope this helps,

Diane Gaskill 


-Original Message-
>From: Rick Quatro 
>Sent: Jan 10, 2006 5:06 PM
>To: Joe Malin , framers at FrameUsers.com
>Subject: Re: Odd bug printing FM to PDF
>
>As Fred says, this is designed behavior. See Chapter 19, "Hypertext and 
>View-Only Documents" of the User Guide, particularly the "Preparing areas 
>for becoming active" section. Reading this won't necessarily solve your 
>problem, but at least you will understand what is happening.
>
>Rick Quatro
>Carmen Publishing
>585-659-8267
>www.frameexpert.com
>
>Hi!
>
>Seems like I've found an odd bug with hyperlinks from generated files
>when I "print" an unstructured FM book from FM 7.1 to PDF.
>
>I have found that when I print a FM book to PDF, the page numbers in the
>TOC and index are automatically converted to hyperlinks in the PDF. The
>text of the entry is also converted to a hyperlink. Thus, when I move my
>cursor over the entry or page number in the PDF file, it turns from a
>hand to a pointer.
>
>However, if the entry's text is not in the default paragraph format for
>the entry, this automatic conversion doesn't happen.
>
>For example, if I go to the TOC reference page and change (for example)
>the line for the chapter entries so that the page number has a "bold"
>character format, the entry is converted to a hyperlink but not the page
>number itself.
>
>So if I have the line
>
><$paranum><$paratext><$pagenum>
>
>(this line has the paragraph tag ChapterTitleTOC)
>
>and I select "<$pagenum>" and apply a character tag (say "Bold"), then
>the chapter entries in the TOC look fine, but the page numbers are
>converted to hyperlinks in the PDF. The *chapter* number and text are
>hyperlinks but not the *page* number.
>
>This also happens if I surround <$pagenum> with a  tag, for
>example
>
><$paranum><$paratext><$pagenum>
>
>This also happens in index entries.
>
>Anyone seen this before?
>
>Joe
>TuVox, Inc.
>19050 Pruneridge Avenue Suite 150, Cupertino, CA 95014-0715
>
>Joe Malin
>Technical Writer
>(408)625.1623
>jmalin at tuvox.com
>www.tuvox.com 
>The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
>necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.
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Setting runaround properties on a table

[Art Campbell]

Tables by themselves don't have run-around properties the way a
graphic or an anchored frame does.

So, two ideas:

Without knowing a little more about the usage, I think the easiest
thing to do would
be to create a new master page with five text frames: 1,2,3,&4 in the
quadrants in a single text flow with auto-connect turned on. And the
fifth frame horizontally across the middle of the page to hold the
table. You'd need to tweak thr fifth frame  to the size of the table,
but it would preserve the automatic flow of the copy. Essentially all
you're doing is splitting the existing columns horizontally to create
room for your table.

An alternative would be to try to nest containers by creating an
anchored frame with properties set to "Run into Paragraph" to hold a
text frame that holds the table. I haven't tested this, but I think it
would work -- depends a bit on how the second column is set up.

Art


On 1/11/06, Shelly, Heather  wrote:
> I'm completing the work on templates that someone else created. The templates 
> are Marketing documents with a 2-column format. In some cases, writers will 
> need a table to straddle both columns of the page. The text must flow above 
> and below the table in both columns. Right now, if text starts in Column A 
> and runs into a table that straddles both columns across the page, the text 
> that continues over from the first column only flows *below* the table; it 
> does not flow above the table into the top of Column B. I need for the text 
> to flow above and below straddled tables in these documents.

--
Art Campbell art.campbell at 
gmail.com
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   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
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SOLVED: Re: Sourcerer CMCodes.h file

[Rick Quatro]

I now have the file. Thanks to all that responded.

Rick

> Hello Framers,
>
> I am trying to call Sourcerer from a FrameScript script. Sourcerer is 
> supposed to have a CMCodes.h file which sets constants for Sourcerer 
> return values. If anyone has this file, please let me know, and I may ask 
> you to email it to me. Thank you very much.
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing
> 585-659-8267
> www.frameexpert.com

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Context rule to detect children?

[Steve Rickaby]

There appears to be no context rule that can detect whether an element has 
children - {last} and {notlast} refers to siblings. This is giving me some 
headaches in controlling the vertical spacing in lists that include a run-on 
paragraph in the last list element: the {last} rule is obeyed, even though - 
from a visual point of view - the list element is not the last element in the 
list. (The design call for more space below the list than between list items.) 

Is there a solution to this, or do I have to completely revise my list 
formatting so that there is no need to detect whether or not an element is the 
last list element?
-- 
Steve

Setting runaround properties on a table

[Stuart Rogers]

Shelly, Heather wrote:
  The
> templates are Marketing documents with a 2-column format. In some
> cases, writers will need a table to straddle both columns of the
> page. The text must flow above and below the table in both columns.
> Right now, if text starts in Column A and runs into a table that
> straddles both columns across the page, the text that continues over
> from the first column only flows *below* the table; it does not flow
> above the table into the top of Column B. I need for the text to flow
> above and below straddled tables in these documents.

Heather,

Create a dedicated TableAnchor pgf tag with Pagination set to Across All 
Columns, and put your table in that otherwise empty pgf. Previous body 
text will flow in columns above the table, and subsequent body text will 
flow in columns below it.

If you object to the space that this adds above the table, set the 
TableAnchor Space Below to a negative value equal to or greater than the 
point size of its font. Set the Space Above in the Table Designer to the 
same (negative) value. Those settings cause the top of the table to 
align with the top of the TableAnchor pgf, eliminating extra space above.

HTH,

-- 
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
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Setting runaround properties on a table

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Heather:

If the columns are created from two connected text frames, rather 
than a single text frame with a two-column property, there's no way 
to straddle the columns with a paragraph format, anchored frame, or 
table.

You should be aware that even in a two-column text frame approach, a 
table in the left column that straddles columns forces the text above 
it on a page to flow into the right column, rather than to skip 
"over" the table and continue to the bottom of the column, then on to 
the top of the right column.

Also, a table in the right column that needs to straddle, will move 
to the next page.

Marketing documents often employ creative layout approaches that 
require some manual work and manual maintenance as documents are 
revised.

HTH

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Shelly, Heather wrote:
  The
>templates are Marketing documents with a 2-column format. In some
>cases, writers will need a table to straddle both columns of the
>page. The text must flow above and below the table in both columns.
>Right now, if text starts in Column A and runs into a table that
>straddles both columns across the page, the text that continues over
>from the first column only flows *below* the table; it does not flow
>above the table into the top of Column B. I need for the text to flow
>above and below straddled tables in these documents.

Setting runaround properties on a table

[Glenn Voyles]

Heather,

How about creating a paragraph format that goes across all columns and framing 
your tables with that. You could anchor the table to the first one, follow it 
with an empty carriage return and move on with the flow.

Glenn

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From: framers-bounces+glenn.voyles=mitchell.com at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-bounces+glenn.voyles=mitchell@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Shelly, Heather
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 07:43
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Setting runaround properties on a table

Hi,
I tried to search the archives on this one and did not find an answer. I've 
also looked in the FM online Help, and Googled this issue, but have not found a 
solution to the problem. I'm probably missing something really simple, but any 
help would be appreciated. 

System specifications: Unstructured FrameMaker 6.0p405 on Windows XP, SP1

I'm completing the work on templates that someone else created. The templates 
are Marketing documents with a 2-column format. In some cases, writers will 
need a table to straddle both columns of the page. The text must flow above and 
below the table in both columns. Right now, if text starts in Column A and runs 
into a table that straddles both columns across the page, the text that 
continues over from the first column only flows *below* the table; it does not 
flow above the table into the top of Column B. I need for the text to flow 
above and below straddled tables in these documents.

I've tried tweaking the table properties, and the properties of the paragraph 
to which the table is anchored, but I am not having any luck. Any ideas? ?

Thanks!
Heather Shelly


Thank you,
Heather Shelly
Information Development Specialist
Information Infrastructure Department
BMC Software, Inc.
(713) 918-4766


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Answer: Re: Odd bug printing FM to PDF

[Combs, Richard]

Diane Gaskill wrote: 

> I'm not sure whetehr to call it a bug or not, but it's 
> definitely a known problem.   Anytime there is a character 
> font change in the text of a link in the FM file, the link 
> ends at that point. 

This is _neither_ a "bug" _nor_ a "known problem." To reiterate what
Fred and Rick have said, it's _intended_to_work_this_way_. 

The beginning and end of a hypertext link "hotspot" have to be defined
_somehow_. FM programmers _could_ have required us to insert two markers
for each link, one for the beginning and one for the end. Instead, they
reasoned as follows: "Authors will certainly want to make hotspots
identifiable by color, underlining, or some other formatting change; so
we'll let the extent of the formatting change define the hotspot."

Just to be safe, they also terminated hotspots at the end of the pgf so
that you don't create a 30-page hotspot when you screw up. :-} 

Maybe you don't like the way this works. Maybe you have some other way
of defining the end of a hotspot that you'd prefer (so please enlighten
us; I'm at a loss to think of a better alternative). 

But this is the consciously-chosen functionality, the way it's
_designed_ to work. If you're not sure whether to call it a bug or not,
then you just don't understand. 

Richard 


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FrameMaker at Kinko's

[John Wilcox]

> From: Phillip Norman 

> Isn't FrameMaker the best word processor?

FM has tons of nice features, but I don't consider it a word processor. If
it is, it sure ain't the best. Doesn't even have drag-and-drop editing.

_
Regards,
John Wilcox, Technical Writer
Zetron, Redmond
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Answer: Re: Odd bug printing FM to PDF

[Rick Quatro]

What Richard says is true, but this designed behavior is not very useful for 
generated lists. For generated lists, it would have been better to have a 
mechanism that would ignore character property changes and make the whole 
paragraph a link.

Rick

Diane Gaskill wrote:

> I'm not sure whetehr to call it a bug or not, but it's
> definitely a known problem.   Anytime there is a character
> font change in the text of a link in the FM file, the link
> ends at that point.

This is _neither_ a "bug" _nor_ a "known problem." To reiterate what
Fred and Rick have said, it's _intended_to_work_this_way_.

The beginning and end of a hypertext link "hotspot" have to be defined
_somehow_. FM programmers _could_ have required us to insert two markers
for each link, one for the beginning and one for the end. Instead, they
reasoned as follows: "Authors will certainly want to make hotspots
identifiable by color, underlining, or some other formatting change; so
we'll let the extent of the formatting change define the hotspot."

Just to be safe, they also terminated hotspots at the end of the pgf so
that you don't create a 30-page hotspot when you screw up. :-}

Maybe you don't like the way this works. Maybe you have some other way
of defining the end of a hotspot that you'd prefer (so please enlighten
us; I'm at a loss to think of a better alternative).

But this is the consciously-chosen functionality, the way it's
_designed_ to work. If you're not sure whether to call it a bug or not,
then you just don't understand.

Richard


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Answer: Re: Odd bug printing FM to PDF

[Joe Malin]

I don't particularly care one way or another. I see that it's not a bug
by Adobe's definition, and I can live with that.

Joe 

| -Original Message-
| From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com 
| [mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com]
|  On Behalf Of Combs, Richard
| Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:22 AM
| To: framers at frameusers.com
| Subject: RE: Answer: Re: Odd bug printing FM to PDF
| 
| Diane Gaskill wrote: 
|  
| > I'm not sure whetehr to call it a bug or not, but it's 
| > definitely a known problem.   Anytime there is a character 
| > font change in the text of a link in the FM file, the link ends at 
| > that point.
| 

Changing fonts

[Korth, Deanna]

My company's FrameMaker document templates use Garamond for many of our
paragraph formats. In older .pdf files the font is ITC Garamond and the
documents look nice, but in new documents the font is True Type Garamond
and the text, especially italics, is difficult to read. After much
research I've discovered that the ITC Garamond font in the older .pdf
files was from the Type On Call promotional CD, and the unlocking key
for the CD was lost when former employees moved on. 

I'd like to switch back to ITC Garamond, and my company is willing to
purchase the font family. But before we spend the $195, we want to
understand the real-world implications of installing ITC Garamond. 

If I remove the True Type Garamond fonts from the Fonts folder in
Windows and install ITC Garamond, will FrameMaker automatically use ITC
Garamond? 

Will Windows cause us problems going forward by putting the True Type
Garamond font back without our knowledge? 

Is there anything else I need to consider? 

Is there a Fonts for Dummies book/hyperlink you can suggest that will
help me grasp this? 

I'm using unstructured FrameMaker 7.2 and Windows XP Professional. 

By the way, I know that I could just switch fonts, but am trying to
avoid the work of manually changing the paragraph formats. 

Thanks, 

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Answer: Re: Odd bug printing FM to PDF

[Combs, Richard]

Rick Quatro wrote:

> What Richard says is true, but this designed behavior is not 
> very useful for generated lists. For generated lists, it 
> would have been better to have a mechanism that would ignore 
> character property changes and make the whole paragraph a link.

OK, granted -- maybe they should have implemented a different mechanism
for generated lists, instead of reusing the hypertext marker
functionality. But they didn't, preferrring to keep things simple.
 

Hey, forgive the rant -- I'm just a bit over-caffeinated. ;-) 

Richard


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Answer: Re: Odd bug printing FM to PDF

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:57:36 -0500, "Rick Quatro"  
wrote:

>What Richard says is true, but this designed behavior is not very useful for 
>generated lists. For generated lists, it would have been better to have a 
>mechanism that would ignore character property changes and make the whole 
>paragraph a link.

I agree.  Can't change Frame, but in Mif2Go output we have
a property that does that, "ParaLink", which can be assigned
to para formats.  It's especially handy for Frame-generated
TOCs being converted to some form of HTML or XML, since the
entire entry is a link regardless of char format usage.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

OT: Word to PDF

[tammy.vanboen...@jeppesen.com]

Since we are blessed to have so many acrobat gurus on this list:

Windows XP
Adobe Acrobat Professional 6.0
MS Word 2002

Inherited a Word doc with 143 pages, 2.99 MB that I need to convert to 
PDF. I have done a Save As and renamed to preserve the original and ensure 
that I know it is a Word 2002 doc that I am working with. I have done 
everything I know in my power to get this sucker to convert to a PDF 
-Wwithin Word using both PDFMaker and the Adobe PDF Printer. I have also 
tried from within Adobe Acrobat and no matter what I do, barf, crash, bang 
. ..  I cannot get this document to convert. I get the classic error 
message about flushing offending stack and not producing the PDF.

What should I be looking for/troubleshooting in this otherwise fruitless 
endeavor?

Thanks!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Aviation Courseware Development
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com

OT: Word to PDF

[tammy.vanboen...@jeppesen.com]

FWIW:

The error message in it's entirety:

%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
%%[ Error: rangecheck; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: View 
--nostringval-- ]%%

Stack:
/DOCVIEW
[/FitH]
/View
/UseOutlines
/PageMode
-dict-


%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Aviation Courseware Development
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com



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Since we are blessed to have so many acrobat gurus on this list:

Windows XP
Adobe Acrobat Professional 6.0
MS Word 2002

Inherited a Word doc with 143 pages, 2.99 MB that I need to convert to 
PDF. I have done a Save As and renamed to preserve the original and ensure 

that I know it is a Word 2002 doc that I am working with. I have done 
everything I know in my power to get this sucker to convert to a PDF 
-Wwithin Word using both PDFMaker and the Adobe PDF Printer. I have also 
tried from within Adobe Acrobat and no matter what I do, barf, crash, bang 

. ..  I cannot get this document to convert. I get the classic error 
message about flushing offending stack and not producing the PDF.

What should I be looking for/troubleshooting in this otherwise fruitless 
endeavor?

Thanks!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Aviation Courseware Development
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
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Answer: Re: Odd bug printing FM to PDF

[Rick Quatro]

For those interested, there is a possible FrameScript solution that would 
solve the problem in PDFs. A script could go through the TOC and look for 
lines with character property changes. It would duplicate the first 
Hypertext marker and insert it whereever there is a character property 
change. The end result would be multiple links in the paragraph, but since 
they would butt together, it wouldn't be a problem in the resulting PDF. The 
script could be triggered automatically whenever the TOC is generated.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
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> On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:57:36 -0500, "Rick Quatro" 
> 
> wrote:
>
>>What Richard says is true, but this designed behavior is not very useful 
>>for
>>generated lists. For generated lists, it would have been better to have a
>>mechanism that would ignore character property changes and make the whole
>>paragraph a link.
>
> I agree.  Can't change Frame, but in Mif2Go output we have
> a property that does that, "ParaLink", which can be assigned
> to para formats.  It's especially handy for Frame-generated
> TOCs being converted to some form of HTML or XML, since the
> entire entry is a link regardless of char format usage.
>
> -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
>http://www.omsys.com/
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