RE: Creating bookmarks, more and top links in FM

[Jaya Ghosh]

Hello 

Can someone on the list help?

So far none responded.

Cheers
JG
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Subject: Creating bookmarks, more and top links in FM
Importance: High

Hello

 

I use FM 7.0 to create the User Guides and Automap to convert the guides to
HTMLs. Our FM template is mapped with the Automap template. My queries are:

 

1.   How do I create a static H1 heading in FM so that when it is
converted to html the main heading remains in focus while one scrolls down
the page to browse through the contents/sub-headings in the specific
section?

2.   Since some of the sections are very verbose am keen to create a
more..  or Top link to expand/collapse the sub and sub-sub-headings or to
move to the previous section in the file. How do I do this in FM?

3.   How do I create bookmarks in FM files? Am aware that it can be
created in pdfs but not aware as to how it can be done in FM. Not sure
whether it will require a Bookmark plugin to create the same in a FM file.

 

Any help on the above issues is appreciated.

 

Regards,

Jaya Ghosh

 

 

 

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Re: structured import and pgftag fonts

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Noah,

I am not sure what is causing this by try this after you import the XML.

1) Choose File  Import  Element Definitions.

2) Leave Current selected in the Import from Document popup. Check the 
Format Rule Overrides checkbox and click Import.


Rick Quatro
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Hey all,

I'm having a very strange problem with my structure application. When I
import an xml file, none of the fonts follows the paragraph tags(which are
assigned by the edd, they show up just fine in the pgftag bar and menu, 
but
the fonts just don't apply for some reason). They seem to be inheriting 
the

font information from the root element instead.

However if I just insert an element manually the font follows the pgftag
correctly.

Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?

Thanks,

Noah
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Re: Creating bookmarks, more and top links in FM

[Brian Weis]

1.   How do I create a static H1 heading in FM so that when it is
converted to html the main heading remains in focus while one scrolls down
the page to browse through the contents/sub-headings in the specific
section?



Not sure.


2.   Since some of the sections are very verbose am keen to create a

more..  or Top link to expand/collapse the sub and sub-sub-headings or to
move to the previous section in the file. How do I do this in FM?



Again, not sure. We have release guides that sport a table of short
descriptions on page one, and a More... link to take the reader deeper into
the doc for the rest of the feature's write-up.


3.   How do I create bookmarks in FM files? Am aware that it can be

created in pdfs but not aware as to how it can be done in FM. Not sure
whether it will require a Bookmark plugin to create the same in a FM file.




I think you are talking about the Named Destination feature for Hypertext
links in Frame. To add one:
a. Place cursor at the destination point.
b. Click Special | Hypertext... | Command: Specify Named Destination
c. Type a name for the destination.
d. Click New Hypertext Marker.


If you already know this, and are asking something completely different ...
then I apologize. If you get the answers to your first two questions, please
share them with the list.

--
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Re: Creating bookmarks, more and top links in FM

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Jaya,

You should ask this question on a WebWorks list since these are really 
Automap issues.


Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


I use FM 7.0 to create the User Guides and Automap to convert the guides 
to
HTMLs. Our FM template is mapped with the Automap template. My queries 
are:




1.   How do I create a static H1 heading in FM so that when it is
converted to html the main heading remains in focus while one scrolls down
the page to browse through the contents/sub-headings in the specific
section?

2.   Since some of the sections are very verbose am keen to create a
more..  or Top link to expand/collapse the sub and sub-sub-headings or to
move to the previous section in the file. How do I do this in FM?

3.   How do I create bookmarks in FM files? Am aware that it can be
created in pdfs but not aware as to how it can be done in FM. Not sure
whether it will require a Bookmark plugin to create the same in a FM file.



Any help on the above issues is appreciated.



Regards,

Jaya Ghosh


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RE: Creating bookmarks, more and top links in FM

[Charles Beck]

Hi JG, 

I do not have a totally definitive answer for your questions (I think),
and I wonder if anyone else does either, which may be why you have not
heard anything. 

The short answer is that I do not think it is possible to do the things
you want to do in Frame. Certainly not easily, in any case.

For questions 1 and 2, it *might* be possible--and I strongly stress the
word might--to use the HTML Macro marker, which inserts HTML code into
your output document as is, to do what you want. Be warned though:
Internet Explorer does not easily support statically positioned elements
of any type (Firefox and Opera do much better). So, even if you can get
the desired HTML code in your documents, there is no guarantee they will
work correctly in IE. 

For question 3, the best thing I can suggest (maybe someone else can
offer something better) is to create a cross-reference to the desired
location in the documentation. But I am a little confused as to what you
mean by the term bookmark in the context of FrameMaker. Bookmarks make
sense in PDF files, because you have the navigational pane on the left.
They make sense in HTML, because you can use a browser to set and use a
bookmark. But I am not sure how you would want to use a bookmark within
the context of FrameMaker. It doesn't seem to make sense to me. Am I
missing something?

HTH, but afraid it won't,
Chuck Beck


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Subject: RE: Creating bookmarks, more and top links in FM

Hello 

Can someone on the list help?

So far none responded.

Cheers
JG
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Subject: Creating bookmarks, more and top links in FM

Hello

 I use FM 7.0 to create the User Guides and Automap to convert the
guides to HTMLs. Our FM template is mapped with the Automap template. My
queries are:

 1.   How do I create a static H1 heading in FM so that when it is
converted to html the main heading remains in focus while one scrolls
down the page to browse through the contents/sub-headings in the
specific section?

2.   Since some of the sections are very verbose am keen to create a
more..  or Top link to expand/collapse the sub and sub-sub-headings or
to move to the previous section in the file. How do I do this in FM?

3.   How do I create bookmarks in FM files? Am aware that it can be
created in pdfs but not aware as to how it can be done in FM. Not sure
whether it will require a Bookmark plugin to create the same in a FM
file.

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Somewhat OT: Bookmarks in PDF Jumping to Wrong View

[Susan_Corcoran]

Hello All,

I'm not sure if this is caused by FM, or Acrobat, but I know we have 
plenty of experts with both programs on this list, so I hope you can help 
me out here.
When I create a pdf (FM7, Acrobat 7 Pro), the bookmarks come through just 
fine, but when I click on a bookmark in Acrobat, the display doesn't align 
properly.  So if my link is to something on page 4, Acrobat might pop me 
to halfway between pages 4 and 5.  If I click on the bookmark for the 
front cover, I'm shown the bottom of the front cover, and about a third of 
the following page.  This happens with every bookmark.
I've created files using different print drivers (Scitex and Docutech), 
then distilling, and tried printed directly to pdf, but get the same 
results every time.  And the weird display problem occurs on any other PC 
viewing my file.

Has anyone else seen this?  Got any suggestions?
Please copy any responses to me directly, since I'm on digest. 

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RE: Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

[Carol Wade]

Are the links not working in Frame, the PDF, or both?

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Subject: Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

Folks, running into a PDF issue here. The Frame TOC works just fine,
however the moment i make a PDF using Adobe Acrobe 7.0, the links in TOC
stop working. Any setting I am missing here
   
  Thanks,
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RE: Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

[Ridder, Fred]

Oops, just noticed that you are using PDF Writer. That's the
problem, right there. PDF Writer is a quick and dirty PDF
creation tool that does not produce hyperlinks. To get links
in your PDF, you must use a method that uses Acrobat
Distiller (printing to the Adobe PDF printer, printing to 
a PostScript file and distilling, etc.) and you must use the 
setting I mentioned in my previous response. 

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Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 9:55 AM
To: 'Roopa Belur'; Framers
Subject: RE: Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

Do you have the Generate Acrobat Data option enabled in the Print
dialog?  That's the most commonly missed essential setting... 

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Folks, running into a PDF issue here. The Frame TOC works just fine,
however the moment i make a PDF using Adobe Acrobe 7.0, the links in TOC
stop working. Any setting I am missing here
   
  Thanks,
Roopa Belur




  
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Re: Creating bookmarks, more and top links in FM

[Brian Weis]

Charles is correct ... the Cross-Reference feature will serve you much
better than inserting Specified Destinations as I mentioned earlier.

The great thing about X-Refs in Frame is that they are completely tied to
the paragraphs style, you can control how the reference appears, and they
are easy to update.

--
Brian

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For question 3, the best thing I can suggest (maybe someone else can
offer something better) is to create a cross-reference to the desired
location in the documentation. But I am a little confused as to what you
mean by the term bookmark in the context of FrameMaker. Bookmarks make
sense in PDF files, because you have the navigational pane on the left.
They make sense in HTML, because you can use a browser to set and use a
bookmark. But I am not sure how you would want to use a bookmark within
the context of FrameMaker. It doesn't seem to make sense to me. Am I
missing something?



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Re: Somewhat OT: Bookmarks in PDF Jumping to Wrong View

[Shlomo Perets]

Susan,

You wrote:


... When I create a pdf (FM7, Acrobat 7 Pro), the bookmarks come through just
fine, but when I click on a bookmark in Acrobat, the display doesn't align
properly.  So if my link is to something on page 4, Acrobat might pop me
to halfway between pages 4 and 5.  If I click on the bookmark for the
front cover, I'm shown the bottom of the front cover, and about a third of
the following page.  This happens with every bookmark.
I've created files using different print drivers (Scitex and Docutech),
then distilling, and tried printed directly to pdf, but get the same
results every time.  And the weird display problem occurs on any other PC
viewing my file. ...


This has to do with the display settings of the PDF file, which could be 
set to Single Page or Continuous, or Default (in which case, the 
local user preference, either Single or Continuous, is used).


Both settings may be useful, depending on the type of PDF and intended uses.
The continuous mode is essential when you want links and bookmarks to 
scroll the page so that the target location is automatically placed at the 
top/left corner of window (rather than just taking you to the destination 
page). This may be highly useful, for example, when you have links in index 
pages -- in a single page mode you'll be taken to the page when clicking, 
but you may need to do some exploration to find the specific target.


In any case, FrameMaker does not let you specify the PDF display mode. This 
can be set as a general default using add-ons or advanced techniques, or 
set in Acrobat manually for each PDF file.


Unrelated: I recommend to use the Adobe PDF printer driver (previously 
known as Distiller printer driver, or AdobePS printer driver + Acrobat 
Distiller PPD) when producing PDFs, rather than print-oriented drivers.



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RE: Corrupted PDFs

[Grant Hogarth]

Gillian ---
I'm arriving late to the party, but have you tried saving the file
out as MIF and then opening the MIF file?  That often works for me.
Other hacks are to save it out as text (or even RTF) and then open that
file (often requires retagging or indexing, but sometimes that's the
lesser pain.)

Grnt

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From: Gillian Flato
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 12:15 PM
To: Dov Isaacs
Cc: Framers
Subject: RE: Corrupted PDFs

Dov,

I have full access to that directory. And it doesn't happen to all PDFs,
just specific ones that all come from the same source document, which is
a legacy document. It's been updated many times.

And I have rebooted, it doesn't help. Any suggestions? 


Thank you,
Gillian 


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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:30 PM
To: Gillian Flato
Cc: Framers
Subject: RE: Corrupted PDFs


If you can indeed OPEN and view the PDF file in
either Reader or Acrobat, the file is not corrupted.
An inability to delete or move a file is not indicative
of file corruption, but rather, that some program is
holding the file open. That program may be on your
system or perhaps the server itself or some other user
on the network. Note that sometimes even though you think
you have ended a run of Acrobat, it still is running for
a while and may have some files open.

Another possibility is that you put the file into a
network directory for which your access privileges are
setup to allow you to open existing files or even create 
files in that directory, but not delete or otherwise mess
with file attributes.

Some simple things to try: Reboot YOUR computer. If your
computer was the culprit, i.e., some program holding it
open, then the reboot should clear it.

If the reboot doesn't clear the problem and you KNOW that
no one else on the network is accessing that file, you
should have your network administrator check your access
privileges on the server and specifically for the directory
in question. You clearly need read, write, file create, file
deletion, file attribute modification, etc. privileges for
that directory.
- Dov

 -Original Message-
 Gillian Flato wrote:
 Guys,
  
 Frame 7.0 p495
 Acrobat 7.0 Professional
 on a network drive
  
 I am having a problem where when I create a PDF, it becomes corrupted
 and I can't delete or move it. I can open it, but that's it. But this
 means that when I change the software, I can't rebuild the 
 PDF so it's critical. Any suggestions.
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Major problems with generating TOC

[Tammy Van Boening]

Framemaker 7.2 on Windows XP.

I am trying to something very basic and simple - create a TOC for a
book. Right now, I have but a single file in the book. I use Add  Table
of Contents, select the paragraph tags that I want to include in the
TOC, then generate the book. When I open the TOC and go to view the
reference page to format the TOC entries, the TOC reference page shows
absolutely no entries for any of the paragraph tags that I have
selected. Instead, it shows entries for tags that do not exist anywhere
in the single file for which I am generating the TOC and this file was
not created from an existing template/file. This single file was created
totally from scratch. 

That is, I have chosen Heading1, Heading2, and Heading3 to generate my
TOC. When I open the TOC Reference page, I don't see any of the
following entries: Heading1TOC, Heading2TOC, and Heading3TOC. Instead, I
see a bunch of weird entries with buried end of flow symbols and tab
symbols and only the first two are selectable and editable. I cannot
select anything else on the Reference page.

I am absolutely stymied by this. In all of my years of using Framemaker,
I have never seen anything like this in my life. Any and all help is
sincerely appreciated.

TVB



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RE: Major problems with generating TOC

[Tammy Van Boening]

Oh yea - the other thing. The page size/margins on the body page of the
TOC look just fine, but when I open the reference page, the actual text
entry area is reduced significantly and the margins are shifted. On the
body page, I have a 1 inch margin on the left and one inch on the right.
On the Reference page, the left margin is shifted over to 0.25 and the
right margin is now over 2.5 inches. 

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 From: Tammy Van Boening  
 Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 8:55 AM
 To:   framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject:  Major problems with generating TOC
 
 Framemaker 7.2 on Windows XP.
 
 I am trying to something very basic and simple - create a TOC for a
 book. Right now, I have but a single file in the book. I use Add 
 Table of Contents, select the paragraph tags that I want to include in
 the TOC, then generate the book. When I open the TOC and go to view
 the reference page to format the TOC entries, the TOC reference page
 shows absolutely no entries for any of the paragraph tags that I have
 selected. Instead, it shows entries for tags that do not exist
 anywhere in the single file for which I am generating the TOC and this
 file was not created from an existing template/file. This single file
 was created totally from scratch. 
 
 That is, I have chosen Heading1, Heading2, and Heading3 to generate my
 TOC. When I open the TOC Reference page, I don't see any of the
 following entries: Heading1TOC, Heading2TOC, and Heading3TOC. Instead,
 I see a bunch of weird entries with buried end of flow symbols and tab
 symbols and only the first two are selectable and editable. I cannot
 select anything else on the Reference page.
 
 I am absolutely stymied by this. In all of my years of using
 Framemaker, I have never seen anything like this in my life. Any and
 all help is sincerely appreciated.
 
 TVB
 
 
 
 Tammy Van Boening
 Engineering Technical Writer
 InsureWorx
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RE: Somewhat OT: Bookmarks in PDF Jumping to Wrong View

[Grant Hogarth]

Quick Question: Is the link taking you to a place where the anchor is
at the top of the screen, no matter where that falls on the page?  IIRC,
this can be controlled with a setting  (which you can set post creation
(in Acrobat Std or Pro -- NOT Reader) by setting the page presentation
(under File Properties) to the way you want, and then resaving the
file).

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Subject: Somewhat OT: Bookmarks in PDF Jumping to Wrong View

Hello All,

I'm not sure if this is caused by FM, or Acrobat, but I know we have
plenty of experts with both programs on this list, so I hope you can
help me out here.
When I create a pdf (FM7, Acrobat 7 Pro), the bookmarks come through
just fine, but when I click on a bookmark in Acrobat, the display
doesn't align properly.  So if my link is to something on page 4,
Acrobat might pop me to halfway between pages 4 and 5.  If I click on
the bookmark for the front cover, I'm shown the bottom of the front
cover, and about a third of the following page.  This happens with every
bookmark.
I've created files using different print drivers (Scitex and Docutech),
then distilling, and tried printed directly to pdf, but get the same
results every time.  And the weird display problem occurs on any other
PC viewing my file.

Has anyone else seen this?  Got any suggestions?
Please copy any responses to me directly, since I'm on digest. 

~
Susan Corcoran
Hand Held Products
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FW: Master Pages - landscape and portrait pages

[Carol Wade]

I have a book that has a rotated landscape master page and uses system
variables that are on other pages, but headers  footers are not
rotated. I have rotated only the main text flow frame by selecting it on
the master page and then selecting Graphics  Rotate (Rotate by 90 deg
clockwise). 

Carol Wade
Health Language, Inc.

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Subject: Re: Master Pages - landscape and portrait pages

Texan Scriber wrote:
 Fellow Framers,
 Does anyone know how to have landscape and portrait pages in the same
Frame
 file. I tried to create a landscape master page in my frame file and
the
 application complained that other page sizes have to be adjusted
because 
 the
 new page size is too small!
 
 Appreciate your help

Tex,

It sounds like you're trying to create a landscape paper size. You don't

need to do that. You need to create a new master page and rotate it 
(Format  Customize Layout  Rotate), then add a text frame to it as 
well as header/footer frames if you need those. Then apply that master 
to your body page.

Caveats: If your rotated page's flow is the same as your body flow, then

future edits can screw up which content appears on the landscape page. 
It is often best to create a separate file for the landscape material; 
you can make it act like part of the previous and following chapter 
files by setting all their numbering properties correctly.

Alternatively, if you stay in a single chapter file, you can put a 
distinctive pgf tag on your landscape material and use the Apply Master 
Pages feature to ensure that content is given the right master page.

HTH,

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Re: Somewhat OT: Bookmarks in PDF Jumping to Wrong View

[Shlomo Perets]

Susan,

You wrote:


... When I create a pdf (FM7, Acrobat 7 Pro), the bookmarks come through just
fine, but when I click on a bookmark in Acrobat, the display doesn't align
properly.  So if my link is to something on page 4, Acrobat might pop me
to halfway between pages 4 and 5.  If I click on the bookmark for the
front cover, I'm shown the bottom of the front cover, and about a third of
the following page.  This happens with every bookmark.
I've created files using different print drivers (Scitex and Docutech),
then distilling, and tried printed directly to pdf, but get the same
results every time.  And the weird display problem occurs on any other PC
viewing my file. ...


This has to do with the display settings of the PDF file, which could be 
set to Single Page or Continuous, or Default (in which case, the 
local user preference, either Single or Continuous, is used).


Both settings may be useful, depending on the type of PDF and intended uses.
The continuous mode is essential when you want links and bookmarks to 
scroll the page so that the target location is automatically placed at the 
top/left corner of window (rather than just taking you to the destination 
page). This may be highly useful, for example, when you have links in index 
pages -- in a single page mode you'll be taken to the page when clicking, 
but you may need to do some exploration to find the specific target.


In any case, FrameMaker does not let you specify the PDF display mode. This 
can be set as a general default using add-ons or advanced techniques, or 
set in Acrobat manually for each PDF file.


Unrelated: I recommend to use the Adobe PDF printer driver (previously 
known as Distiller printer driver, or AdobePS printer driver + Acrobat 
Distiller PPD) when producing PDFs, rather than print-oriented drivers.



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Re: Major problems with generating TOC

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Tammy:

If you're using a copied or renamed or otherwise recycled book file, 
you're probably picking up information from it in the TOC you're 
creating. Have you tried creating a new book file and adding the new 
document file to it, then adding the TOC and generating? What results?


HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Tammy Van Boening wrote:

Oh yea - the other thing. The page size/margins on the body page of the
TOC look just fine, but when I open the reference page, the actual text
entry area is reduced significantly and the margins are shifted. On the
body page, I have a 1 inch margin on the left and one inch on the right.
On the Reference page, the left margin is shifted over to 0.25 and the
right margin is now over 2.5 inches. 


TVB

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From: 	Tammy Van Boening  
Sent:	Thursday, October 12, 2006 8:55 AM

To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject:Major problems with generating TOC

Framemaker 7.2 on Windows XP.

I am trying to something very basic and simple - create a TOC for a
book. Right now, I have but a single file in the book. I use Add 
Table of Contents, select the paragraph tags that I want to include in
the TOC, then generate the book. When I open the TOC and go to view
the reference page to format the TOC entries, the TOC reference page
shows absolutely no entries for any of the paragraph tags that I have
selected. Instead, it shows entries for tags that do not exist
anywhere in the single file for which I am generating the TOC and this
file was not created from an existing template/file. This single file
was created totally from scratch. 


That is, I have chosen Heading1, Heading2, and Heading3 to generate my
TOC. When I open the TOC Reference page, I don't see any of the
following entries: Heading1TOC, Heading2TOC, and Heading3TOC. Instead,
I see a bunch of weird entries with buried end of flow symbols and tab
symbols and only the first two are selectable and editable. I cannot
select anything else on the Reference page.

I am absolutely stymied by this. In all of my years of using
Framemaker, I have never seen anything like this in my life. Any and
all help is sincerely appreciated.



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Tables not accepting Ruling settings

[Karyn Hunt]

Hi All,

   I have a bunch of tables in an administrators guide and am trying to convert 
them all to one consistent style that uses a thin line to separate all columns 
and rows. 

   To achieve this look, I've used the Table Designer  Ruling tab and have set 
every single field to thin. 

   On most tables in my book, the thin lines appear. But some stubbornly refuse 
to add the lines, even if I repeatedly import the template (which has thin 
lines defined in the ruling settings), or set them manually and repeatedly 
click Apply and Update All. I've even selected to remove overrides, but 
still no luck. Why? And how can I fix this?

   This happens on some files (chapters) within my book, but not in others. And 
within a single file/chapter, it can happen on some tables, but not others.

   I'm on Windows XP with Frame 7.1. 

Karyn
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paste special ...text option

[Peter Rule]

Brilliant.

Thanks to all for their suggestions.  I am now extra-click free.

The winner is HOVtext.  Its like someone designed an application just for me! 
And so easy to use; it just works straight away. I am forever wanting to 
"paste-special ...text" in all kinds of contexts and forever getting frustrated 
by the extra clicks etc.

I will use this tool alot.

-Pete




-Original message-
From: "Steve Cavanaugh" scavana...@nat-seattle.com
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:01:15 +1000
To: "Combs, Richard" richard.combs at Polycom.com
Subject: RE: paste special ...text option

> It seems to work on both clipboards from tests I just performed here.
> Once installed, you get a system tray icon that is green in the center.
> Green means strip the formatting.  If you click the icon once, the green
> turns to red, which means the HOVtext tool is disabled and the clipboard
> works as normal.  Click again and it's back to green.  That makes it
> easy to go back and forth from normal behavior to clean text behavior.
> I love it! 
> 
> 
> Steve Cavanaugh
> Sr. Technical Writer
> NAT Seattle Inc.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.combs at Polycom.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:41 AM
> To: Steve Cavanaugh; Peter Rule; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: paste special ...text option
> 
> Steve Cavanaugh wrote: 
>  
> > There is an easier approach.  HOVtext is a public domain system 
> > utility that automatically strips formatting from items you have 
> > copied to the clipboard. So when you paste, it has already been 
> > reduced to simple text.  I've been using it here for a while now, and 
> > I can finally copy and paste from the keyboard without having to go 
> > through Paste Special.
> > Check it out: http://hovklan.com/hovtext/
> 
> HovText looks useful, Steve, thanks for the link. But does it acually
> work for copying and pasting strictly within FM (which uses its own
> internal clipboard, not the Windows clipboard)? 
> 
> Or is it strictly for Windows clipboard operations, such as pasting
> something from another application into FM (which the maker.ini setting
> controls)? 
> 
> Thanks!
> Richard
> 
> 
> --
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> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> --
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> 303-777-0436
> --
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Can User Variable value be changed at book level?

[hedley.fin...@myob.com]

Rick, David, Radha:

> Radha Padmanabhan wrote: 
> 
> >   I have got a FM book with about 50 chapters (files). But 
> > they are logically grouped as 5 guides. All chapters in all 
> > guides have footers with Product Name, Release No. and Date 
> > and Guide identification. For each guide, the footer has a 
> > User Variable-DocumentNumebr. Its value is partially 
> > different for each guide. Every time there is a release, the 
> > variable value changes. I am having to edit the master page 
> > of each of 50 chapters manually. 
> > 
> >   Is there a possibility to change the value of the variable 
> > from book level for a range of chapters?

Aren't we forgetting the <$volnum> numbering builder?  It works just like 
<$chapnum> and can be used everywhere that numbering builder can be used. 
Just insert a user variable containing <$volnum>, then select all the book 
components that belong to a single guide and set <$volnum> to a fixed 
value for all the selected components in the group.

Regards,
Hedley

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Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

[Roopa Belur]

Folks, running into a PDF issue here. The Frame TOC works just fine, however 
the moment i make a PDF using Adobe Acrobe 7.0, the links in TOC stop working. 
Any setting I am missing here

  Thanks,
Roopa Belur





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structured import and pgftag fonts

[Noah Evans]

Hey all,

I'm having a very strange problem with my structure application. When I
import an xml file, none of the fonts follows the paragraph tags(which are
assigned by the edd, they show up just fine in the pgftag bar and menu, but
the fonts just don't apply for some reason). They seem to be inheriting the
font information from the root element instead.

However if I just insert an element manually the font follows the pgftag
correctly.

Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?

Thanks,

Noah

Creating bookmarks, more and top links in FM

[Jaya Ghosh]

Hello 

Can someone on the list help?

So far none responded.

Cheers
JG
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From: framers-bounces+jghosh=coware@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jghosh=coware.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Jaya Ghosh
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 3:51 PM
To: framers at FrameUsers.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Creating bookmarks, more and top links in FM
Importance: High

Hello



I use FM 7.0 to create the User Guides and Automap to convert the guides to
HTMLs. Our FM template is mapped with the Automap template. My queries are:



1.   How do I create a static H1 heading in FM so that when it is
converted to html the main heading remains in focus while one scrolls down
the page to browse through the contents/sub-headings in the specific
section?

2.   Since some of the sections are very verbose am keen to create a
more..  or Top link to expand/collapse the sub and sub-sub-headings or to
move to the previous section in the file. How do I do this in FM?

3.   How do I create bookmarks in FM files? Am aware that it can be
created in pdfs but not aware as to how it can be done in FM. Not sure
whether it will require a Bookmark plugin to create the same in a FM file.



Any help on the above issues is appreciated.



Regards,

Jaya Ghosh







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structured import and pgftag fonts

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Noah,

I am not sure what is causing this by try this after you import the XML.

1) Choose File > Import > Element Definitions.

2) Leave Current selected in the Import from Document popup. Check the 
Format Rule Overrides checkbox and click Import.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> Hey all,
>
> I'm having a very strange problem with my structure application. When I
> import an xml file, none of the fonts follows the paragraph tags(which are
> assigned by the edd, they show up just fine in the pgftag bar and menu, 
> but
> the fonts just don't apply for some reason). They seem to be inheriting 
> the
> font information from the root element instead.
>
> However if I just insert an element manually the font follows the pgftag
> correctly.
>
> Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Noah
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Creating bookmarks, more and top links in FM

[Brian Weis]

>
>
> 1.   How do I create a static H1 heading in FM so that when it is
> converted to html the main heading remains in focus while one scrolls down
> the page to browse through the contents/sub-headings in the specific
> section?


Not sure.


2.   Since some of the sections are very verbose am keen to create a
> more..  or Top link to expand/collapse the sub and sub-sub-headings or to
> move to the previous section in the file. How do I do this in FM?


Again, not sure. We have release guides that sport a table of short
descriptions on page one, and a More... link to take the reader deeper into
the doc for the rest of the feature's write-up.


3.   How do I create bookmarks in FM files? Am aware that it can be
> created in pdfs but not aware as to how it can be done in FM. Not sure
> whether it will require a Bookmark plugin to create the same in a FM file.



I think you are talking about the Named Destination feature for Hypertext
links in Frame. To add one:
a. Place cursor at the destination point.
b. Click Special | Hypertext... | Command: Specify Named Destination
c. Type a name for the destination.
d. Click New Hypertext Marker.


If you already know this, and are asking something completely different ...
then I apologize. If you get the answers to your first two questions, please
share them with the list.

--
Brian

Creating bookmarks, more and top links in FM

[Rick Quatro]

 Hi Jaya,

You should ask this question on a WebWorks list since these are really 
Automap issues.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> I use FM 7.0 to create the User Guides and Automap to convert the guides 
> to
> HTMLs. Our FM template is mapped with the Automap template. My queries 
> are:
>
>
>
> 1.   How do I create a static H1 heading in FM so that when it is
> converted to html the main heading remains in focus while one scrolls down
> the page to browse through the contents/sub-headings in the specific
> section?
>
> 2.   Since some of the sections are very verbose am keen to create a
> more..  or Top link to expand/collapse the sub and sub-sub-headings or to
> move to the previous section in the file. How do I do this in FM?
>
> 3.   How do I create bookmarks in FM files? Am aware that it can be
> created in pdfs but not aware as to how it can be done in FM. Not sure
> whether it will require a Bookmark plugin to create the same in a FM file.
>
>
>
> Any help on the above issues is appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jaya Ghosh

Creating bookmarks, more and top links in FM

[Niels Fanøe]

Hi,

I think your questions are better suited for a WW Help list. See eg. 
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/wwp-users/

-Niels 

-> -Original Message-
-> From: framers-bounces+nfa=maconomy.dk at lists.frameusers.com 
-> [mailto:framers-bounces+nfa=maconomy.dk at lists.frameusers.com]
->  On Behalf Of Jaya Ghosh
-> Sent: 12. oktober 2006 12:30
-> To: framers at FrameUsers.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
-> Subject: RE: Creating bookmarks, more and top links in FM
-> 
-> 
-> Hello 
-> 
-> Can someone on the list help?
-> 
-> So far none responded.
-> 
-> Cheers
-> JG
-> -Original Message-
-> From: framers-bounces+jghosh=coware.com at lists.frameusers.com
-> [mailto:framers-bounces+jghosh=coware.com at lists.frameusers.co
m] On Behalf Of Jaya Ghosh
-> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 3:51 PM
-> To: framers at FrameUsers.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
-> Subject: Creating bookmarks, more and top links in FM
-> Importance: High
-> 
-> Hello
-> 
->  
-> 
-> I use FM 7.0 to create the User Guides and Automap to 
-> convert the guides to HTMLs. Our FM template is mapped with 
-> the Automap template. My queries are:
-> 
->  
-> 
-> 1.   How do I create a static H1 heading in FM so that when it is
-> converted to html the main heading remains in focus while 
-> one scrolls down the page to browse through the 
-> contents/sub-headings in the specific section?
-> 
-> 2.   Since some of the sections are very verbose am keen 
-> to create a
-> more..  or Top link to expand/collapse the sub and 
-> sub-sub-headings or to move to the previous section in the 
-> file. How do I do this in FM?
-> 
-> 3.   How do I create bookmarks in FM files? Am aware 
-> that it can be
-> created in pdfs but not aware as to how it can be done in 
-> FM. Not sure whether it will require a Bookmark plugin to 
-> create the same in a FM file.
-> 
->  
-> 
-> Any help on the above issues is appreciated.
-> 
->  
-> 
-> Regards,
-> 
-> Jaya Ghosh
-> 
->  
-> 
->  
-> 
->  
-> 
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Creating bookmarks, more and top links in FM

[Charles Beck]

Hi JG, 

I do not have a totally definitive answer for your questions (I think),
and I wonder if anyone else does either, which may be why you have not
heard anything. 

The short answer is that I do not think it is possible to do the things
you want to do in Frame. Certainly not easily, in any case.

For questions 1 and 2, it *might* be possible--and I strongly stress the
word "might"--to use the HTML Macro marker, which inserts HTML code into
your output document "as is", to do what you want. Be warned though:
Internet Explorer does not easily support statically positioned elements
of any type (Firefox and Opera do much better). So, even if you can get
the desired HTML code in your documents, there is no guarantee they will
work correctly in IE. 

For question 3, the best thing I can suggest (maybe someone else can
offer something better) is to create a cross-reference to the desired
location in the documentation. But I am a little confused as to what you
mean by the term "bookmark" in the context of FrameMaker. Bookmarks make
sense in PDF files, because you have the navigational pane on the left.
They make sense in HTML, because you can use a browser to set and use a
bookmark. But I am not sure how you would want to use a bookmark within
the context of FrameMaker. It doesn't seem to make sense to me. Am I
missing something?

HTH, but afraid it won't,
Chuck Beck


-Original Message-

Subject: RE: Creating bookmarks, more and top links in FM

Hello 

Can someone on the list help?

So far none responded.

Cheers
JG
-Original Message-

Subject: Creating bookmarks, more and top links in FM

Hello

 I use FM 7.0 to create the User Guides and Automap to convert the
guides to HTMLs. Our FM template is mapped with the Automap template. My
queries are:

 1.   How do I create a static H1 heading in FM so that when it is
converted to html the main heading remains in focus while one scrolls
down the page to browse through the contents/sub-headings in the
specific section?

2.   Since some of the sections are very verbose am keen to create a
more..  or Top link to expand/collapse the sub and sub-sub-headings or
to move to the previous section in the file. How do I do this in FM?

3.   How do I create bookmarks in FM files? Am aware that it can be
created in pdfs but not aware as to how it can be done in FM. Not sure
whether it will require a Bookmark plugin to create the same in a FM
file.

Somewhat OT: Bookmarks in PDF Jumping to Wrong View

[susan_corco...@handheld.com]

Hello All,

I'm not sure if this is caused by FM, or Acrobat, but I know we have 
plenty of experts with both programs on this list, so I hope you can help 
me out here.
When I create a pdf (FM7, Acrobat 7 Pro), the bookmarks come through just 
fine, but when I click on a bookmark in Acrobat, the display doesn't align 
properly.  So if my link is to something on page 4, Acrobat might pop me 
to halfway between pages 4 and 5.  If I click on the bookmark for the 
front cover, I'm shown the bottom of the front cover, and about a third of 
the following page.  This happens with every bookmark.
I've created files using different print drivers (Scitex and Docutech), 
then distilling, and tried printed directly to pdf, but get the same 
results every time.  And the weird display problem occurs on any other PC 
viewing my file.

Has anyone else seen this?  Got any suggestions?
Please copy any responses to me directly, since I'm on digest. 

~
Susan Corcoran
Hand Held Products
 susan.corcoran at handheld.com

Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

[Carol Wade]

Are the links not working in Frame, the PDF, or both?

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+carol.wade=healthlanguage@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+carol.wade=healthlanguage.com at lists.frameusers.c
om] On Behalf Of Roopa Belur
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 1:39 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

Folks, running into a PDF issue here. The Frame TOC works just fine,
however the moment i make a PDF using Adobe Acrobe 7.0, the links in TOC
stop working. Any setting I am missing here

  Thanks,
Roopa Belur





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Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

[Ridder, Fred]

Do you have the "Generate Acrobat Data" option enabled in the Print
dialog?  That's the most commonly missed essential setting... 

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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Roopa Belur
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:39 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

Folks, running into a PDF issue here. The Frame TOC works just fine,
however the moment i make a PDF using Adobe Acrobe 7.0, the links in TOC
stop working. Any setting I am missing here

  Thanks,
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Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

[Ridder, Fred]

Oops, just noticed that you are using PDF Writer. That's the
problem, right there. PDF Writer is a "quick and dirty" PDF
creation tool that does not produce hyperlinks. To get links
in your PDF, you must use a method that uses Acrobat
Distiller (printing to the "Adobe PDF" printer, printing to 
a PostScript file and distilling, etc.) and you must use the 
setting I mentioned in my previous response. 

-Original Message-
From: Ridder, Fred 
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 9:55 AM
To: 'Roopa Belur'; Framers
Subject: RE: Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

Do you have the "Generate Acrobat Data" option enabled in the Print
dialog?  That's the most commonly missed essential setting... 

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Behalf Of Roopa Belur
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:39 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

Folks, running into a PDF issue here. The Frame TOC works just fine,
however the moment i make a PDF using Adobe Acrobe 7.0, the links in TOC
stop working. Any setting I am missing here

  Thanks,
Roopa Belur





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FW: Master Pages - landscape and portrait pages

[Carol Wade]

I have a book that has a rotated landscape master page and uses system
variables that are on other pages, but headers & footers are not
rotated. I have rotated only the main text flow frame by selecting it on
the master page and then selecting Graphics > Rotate (Rotate by 90 deg
clockwise). 

Carol Wade
Health Language, Inc.

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[mailto:framers-bounces+carol.wade=healthlanguage.com at lists.frameusers.c
om] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 3:45 PM
To: Texan Scriber
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Master Pages - landscape and portrait pages

Texan Scriber wrote:
> Fellow Framers,
> Does anyone know how to have landscape and portrait pages in the same
Frame
> file. I tried to create a landscape master page in my frame file and
the
> application complained that other page sizes have to be adjusted
because 
> the
> new page size is too small!
> 
> Appreciate your help

Tex,

It sounds like you're trying to create a landscape paper size. You don't

need to do that. You need to create a new master page and rotate it 
(Format > Customize Layout > Rotate), then add a text frame to it as 
well as header/footer frames if you need those. Then apply that master 
to your body page.

Caveats: If your rotated page's flow is the same as your body flow, then

future edits can screw up which content appears on the landscape page. 
It is often best to create a separate file for the landscape material; 
you can make it act like part of the previous and following chapter 
files by setting all their numbering properties correctly.

Alternatively, if you stay in a single chapter file, you can put a 
distinctive pgf tag on your landscape material and use the Apply Master 
Pages feature to ensure that content is given the right master page.

HTH,

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Somewhat OT: Bookmarks in PDF Jumping to Wrong View

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Susan:

It's possible that your PDFs are set to open in either

* Default viewing mode, and the default view setting for your Reader or 
Acrobat is set to Continuous, which allows scrolling across partial pages

* Continuous viewing mode

Setting the viewing mode for your PDFs to single page viewing mode, or 
side-by-side page viewing mode, would probably stop the effect you're 
seeing. I don't believe you can set this in FrameMaker, but with Acrobat 
Professional 6 or later, you can use batch processing to create a 
process to set the opening view properties for a whole directory-full of 
PDFs. Check your Acrobat Help for Batch.

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
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Susan_Corcoran at HandHeld.com wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I'm not sure if this is caused by FM, or Acrobat, but I know we have 
> plenty of experts with both programs on this list, so I hope you can help 
> me out here.
> When I create a pdf (FM7, Acrobat 7 Pro), the bookmarks come through just 
> fine, but when I click on a bookmark in Acrobat, the display doesn't align 
> properly.  So if my link is to something on page 4, Acrobat might pop me 
> to halfway between pages 4 and 5.  If I click on the bookmark for the 
> front cover, I'm shown the bottom of the front cover, and about a third of 
> the following page.  This happens with every bookmark.
> I've created files using different print drivers (Scitex and Docutech), 
> then distilling, and tried printed directly to pdf, but get the same 
> results every time.  And the weird display problem occurs on any other PC 
> viewing my file.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?  Got any suggestions?
> Please copy any responses to me directly, since I'm on digest. 
>
>   

Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

[Roopa Belur]

It's not freeware PDF Writer though.  I never had a problem all these days; 
since this morning the TOC is posing to be a big problem in the PDF file. I 
follow the exact same method that you have suggested below. 

  Still trying to debug

  Thanks for your response; appreciate it.

Roopa

"Ridder, Fred"  wrote:
  Oops, just noticed that you are using PDF Writer. That's the
problem, right there. PDF Writer is a "quick and dirty" PDF
creation tool that does not produce hyperlinks. To get links
in your PDF, you must use a method that uses Acrobat
Distiller (printing to the "Adobe PDF" printer, printing to 
a PostScript file and distilling, etc.) and you must use the 
setting I mentioned in my previous response. 

-Original Message-
From: Ridder, Fred 
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 9:55 AM
To: 'Roopa Belur'; Framers
Subject: RE: Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

Do you have the "Generate Acrobat Data" option enabled in the Print
dialog? That's the most commonly missed essential setting... 

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Roopa Belur
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:39 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

Folks, running into a PDF issue here. The Frame TOC works just fine,
however the moment i make a PDF using Adobe Acrobe 7.0, the links in TOC
stop working. Any setting I am missing here

Thanks,
Roopa Belur





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Somewhat OT: Bookmarks in PDF Jumping to Wrong View

[Grant Hogarth]

Quick Question: Is the link taking you to a place where the "anchor" is
at the top of the screen, no matter where that falls on the page?  IIRC,
this can be controlled with a setting  (which you can set post creation
(in Acrobat Std or Pro -- NOT Reader) by setting the page presentation
(under File> Properties) to the way you want, and then resaving the
file).

Grant
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On Behalf Of Susan_Corcoran at HandHeld.com
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 7:30 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Somewhat OT: Bookmarks in PDF Jumping to Wrong View

Hello All,

I'm not sure if this is caused by FM, or Acrobat, but I know we have
plenty of experts with both programs on this list, so I hope you can
help me out here.
When I create a pdf (FM7, Acrobat 7 Pro), the bookmarks come through
just fine, but when I click on a bookmark in Acrobat, the display
doesn't align properly.  So if my link is to something on page 4,
Acrobat might pop me to halfway between pages 4 and 5.  If I click on
the bookmark for the front cover, I'm shown the bottom of the front
cover, and about a third of the following page.  This happens with every
bookmark.
I've created files using different print drivers (Scitex and Docutech),
then distilling, and tried printed directly to pdf, but get the same
results every time.  And the weird display problem occurs on any other
PC viewing my file.

Has anyone else seen this?  Got any suggestions?
Please copy any responses to me directly, since I'm on digest. 

~
Susan Corcoran
Hand Held Products
 susan.corcoran at handheld.com

Major problems with generating TOC

[Tammy Van Boening]

Framemaker 7.2 on Windows XP.

I am trying to something very basic and simple - create a TOC for a
book. Right now, I have but a single file in the book. I use Add > Table
of Contents, select the paragraph tags that I want to include in the
TOC, then generate the book. When I open the TOC and go to view the
reference page to format the TOC entries, the TOC reference page shows
absolutely no entries for any of the paragraph tags that I have
selected. Instead, it shows entries for tags that do not exist anywhere
in the single file for which I am generating the TOC and this file was
not created from an existing template/file. This single file was created
totally from scratch. 

That is, I have chosen Heading1, Heading2, and Heading3 to generate my
TOC. When I open the TOC Reference page, I don't see any of the
following entries: Heading1TOC, Heading2TOC, and Heading3TOC. Instead, I
see a bunch of weird entries with buried end of flow symbols and tab
symbols and only the first two are selectable and editable. I cannot
select anything else on the Reference page.

I am absolutely stymied by this. In all of my years of using Framemaker,
I have never seen anything like this in my life. Any and all help is
sincerely appreciated.

TVB



Tammy Van Boening
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InsureWorx
303-729-7733
tvanboening at insureworx.com
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Major problems with generating TOC

[Tammy Van Boening]

Oh yea - the other thing. The page size/margins on the body page of the
TOC look just fine, but when I open the reference page, the actual text
entry area is reduced significantly and the margins are shifted. On the
body page, I have a 1 inch margin on the left and one inch on the right.
On the Reference page, the left margin is shifted over to 0.25 and the
right margin is now over 2.5 inches. 

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Engineering Technical Writer
InsureWorx
303-729-7733
tvanboening at insureworx.com
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> _ 
> From: Tammy Van Boening  
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 8:55 AM
> To:   framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject:  Major problems with generating TOC
> 
> Framemaker 7.2 on Windows XP.
> 
> I am trying to something very basic and simple - create a TOC for a
> book. Right now, I have but a single file in the book. I use Add >
> Table of Contents, select the paragraph tags that I want to include in
> the TOC, then generate the book. When I open the TOC and go to view
> the reference page to format the TOC entries, the TOC reference page
> shows absolutely no entries for any of the paragraph tags that I have
> selected. Instead, it shows entries for tags that do not exist
> anywhere in the single file for which I am generating the TOC and this
> file was not created from an existing template/file. This single file
> was created totally from scratch. 
> 
> That is, I have chosen Heading1, Heading2, and Heading3 to generate my
> TOC. When I open the TOC Reference page, I don't see any of the
> following entries: Heading1TOC, Heading2TOC, and Heading3TOC. Instead,
> I see a bunch of weird entries with buried end of flow symbols and tab
> symbols and only the first two are selectable and editable. I cannot
> select anything else on the Reference page.
> 
> I am absolutely stymied by this. In all of my years of using
> Framemaker, I have never seen anything like this in my life. Any and
> all help is sincerely appreciated.
> 
> TVB
> 
> 
> 
> Tammy Van Boening
> Engineering Technical Writer
> InsureWorx
> 303-729-7733
> tvanboening at insureworx.com
> **
> *
> Keep Smiling - At least until you get your own way
> 

Somewhat OT: Bookmarks in PDF Jumping to Wrong View

[Shlomo Perets]

Susan,

You wrote:

>... When I create a pdf (FM7, Acrobat 7 Pro), the bookmarks come through just
>fine, but when I click on a bookmark in Acrobat, the display doesn't align
>properly.  So if my link is to something on page 4, Acrobat might pop me
>to halfway between pages 4 and 5.  If I click on the bookmark for the
>front cover, I'm shown the bottom of the front cover, and about a third of
>the following page.  This happens with every bookmark.
>I've created files using different print drivers (Scitex and Docutech),
>then distilling, and tried printed directly to pdf, but get the same
>results every time.  And the weird display problem occurs on any other PC
>viewing my file. ...

This has to do with the display settings of the PDF file, which could be 
set to "Single Page" or "Continuous", or "Default" (in which case, the 
local user preference, either Single or Continuous, is used).

Both settings may be useful, depending on the type of PDF and intended uses.
The continuous mode is essential when you want links and bookmarks to 
scroll the page so that the target location is automatically placed at the 
top/left corner of window (rather than just taking you to the destination 
page). This may be highly useful, for example, when you have links in index 
pages -- in a single page mode you'll be taken to the page when clicking, 
but you may need to do some exploration to find the specific target.

In any case, FrameMaker does not let you specify the PDF display mode. This 
can be set as a general default using add-ons or advanced techniques, or 
set in Acrobat manually for each PDF file.

Unrelated: I recommend to use the Adobe PDF printer driver (previously 
known as Distiller printer driver, or AdobePS printer driver + Acrobat 
Distiller PPD) when producing PDFs, rather than print-oriented drivers.


Shlomo Perets

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Major problems with generating TOC

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Tammy:

If you're using a copied or renamed or otherwise "recycled" book file, 
you're probably picking up information from it in the TOC you're 
creating. Have you tried creating a new book file and adding the new 
document file to it, then adding the TOC and generating? What results?

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Tammy Van Boening wrote:
> Oh yea - the other thing. The page size/margins on the body page of the
> TOC look just fine, but when I open the reference page, the actual text
> entry area is reduced significantly and the margins are shifted. On the
> body page, I have a 1 inch margin on the left and one inch on the right.
> On the Reference page, the left margin is shifted over to 0.25 and the
> right margin is now over 2.5 inches. 
>
> TVB
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Engineering Technical Writer
> InsureWorx
> 303-729-7733
> tvanboening at insureworx.com
> ***
> Keep Smiling - At least until you get your own way
>
>
>   
>> _ 
>> From:Tammy Van Boening  
>> Sent:Thursday, October 12, 2006 8:55 AM
>> To:  framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Major problems with generating TOC
>>
>> Framemaker 7.2 on Windows XP.
>>
>> I am trying to something very basic and simple - create a TOC for a
>> book. Right now, I have but a single file in the book. I use Add >
>> Table of Contents, select the paragraph tags that I want to include in
>> the TOC, then generate the book. When I open the TOC and go to view
>> the reference page to format the TOC entries, the TOC reference page
>> shows absolutely no entries for any of the paragraph tags that I have
>> selected. Instead, it shows entries for tags that do not exist
>> anywhere in the single file for which I am generating the TOC and this
>> file was not created from an existing template/file. This single file
>> was created totally from scratch. 
>>
>> That is, I have chosen Heading1, Heading2, and Heading3 to generate my
>> TOC. When I open the TOC Reference page, I don't see any of the
>> following entries: Heading1TOC, Heading2TOC, and Heading3TOC. Instead,
>> I see a bunch of weird entries with buried end of flow symbols and tab
>> symbols and only the first two are selectable and editable. I cannot
>> select anything else on the Reference page.
>>
>> I am absolutely stymied by this. In all of my years of using
>> Framemaker, I have never seen anything like this in my life. Any and
>> all help is sincerely appreciated.
>> 

Tables not accepting "Ruling" settings

[Karyn Hunt]

Hi All,

   I have a bunch of tables in an administrators guide and am trying to convert 
them all to one consistent style that uses a thin line to separate all columns 
and rows. 

   To achieve this look, I've used the Table Designer > Ruling tab and have set 
every single field to "thin". 

   On most tables in my book, the thin lines appear. But some stubbornly refuse 
to add the lines, even if I repeatedly import the template (which has thin 
lines defined in the ruling settings), or set them manually and repeatedly 
click "Apply" and "Update All". I've even selected to remove overrides, but 
still no luck. Why? And how can I fix this?

   This happens on some files (chapters) within my book, but not in others. And 
within a single file/chapter, it can happen on some tables, but not others.

   I'm on Windows XP with Frame 7.1. 

Karyn