automating a custom save command?

[Jakob Fix]

Hello,

I would like to automate a task that consists of saving all files in a
book using a *custom* save command that is available through the use
of a custom FDK client, without reprogramming the client.

Currently, I have to open the book, open all files inside it, and then
save them one by one, either selecting Save Jap File (the custom
save command) from the File menu, or by using the keyboard Alt, F, J
(J being the short cut for this command), Ctrl+F4 to close the file.
Once books get bigger, this gets tedious very quickly.

I wonder if Framescript can help here (there's the CallClient command,
but I can't figure out whether this could be used for my purpose), or
another batch type tool.  Thanks for your help in advance.

By the way, Frame is 5.5.6+SGML, and the files are structured.

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cheers,
Jakob.
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Re: automating a custom save command?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Jakob,

CallClient will only work if the custom FDK client was designed to be called 
from the outside. FDK clients are not set up this way by default. An 
alternative would be to have a FrameScript script do what the FDK client 
does, in addition to closing the file. Do you know exactly what the Save Jap 
File command is doing?


Otherwise, you could use a macro-type program where you could record all of 
the keystrokes involved and then replay it.


Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


Hello,

I would like to automate a task that consists of saving all files in a
book using a *custom* save command that is available through the use
of a custom FDK client, without reprogramming the client.

Currently, I have to open the book, open all files inside it, and then
save them one by one, either selecting Save Jap File (the custom
save command) from the File menu, or by using the keyboard Alt, F, J
(J being the short cut for this command), Ctrl+F4 to close the file.
Once books get bigger, this gets tedious very quickly.

I wonder if Framescript can help here (there's the CallClient command,
but I can't figure out whether this could be used for my purpose), or
another batch type tool.  Thanks for your help in advance.

By the way, Frame is 5.5.6+SGML, and the files are structured.

--
cheers,
Jakob.
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RE: Paste Special

[Pinkham, Jim]

Yankee Clipper (YC3) is also a very helpful freeware clipboard manager,
with a broad range of functionality
http://www.intelexual.com/products/index.aspx. You can hide it, dock it,
drag and drop from it -- and there are options that do and don't retain
the formatting (text vs. Rich Text, for example).  I often use this
program in tandem with eCleaner
(http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file/fid,6492-order,1-page,1-c,alldown
loads/description.html) -- to clean up junk when copying from other
formats (e.g., grabbing text from a PDF but not wanting the extra line
endings). 

HovText may still be the best tool for the clean text paste, but these
others are great utilities if you have broader needs. Another nice thing
about YC3, for instance, it has a much bigger history than just 10
items.

Jim 

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Subject: RE: Paste Special

HovText is a System Tray tool that strips all formatting when you copy,
thus providing a clean text past.  http://hovtext.com/ 

I can't work without this tool here.


Steve Cavanaugh
Sr. Technical Writer
NAT Seattle Inc.

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Subject: RE: Paste Special

Is there a way to force Frame to paste as text when copy/pasting WITHIN
Frame?  Below is the altered line in my .ini file, but I still have to
Paste Special when copying between Frame docs or within the same doc.

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, RTF, OLE 2, FILE, EMF, META, DIB, BMP,
MIF


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Subject: Re: Paste Special

I also prefer Fred's method.

But if you still need a keyboard shortcut, it's Ctrl-Shift-V


Seraphim Larsen, Senior Technical Writer Intel Corporation *
DEG/ECG/Ops/TechComm * Chandler, AZ My opinions only; I don't speak for
Intel.



On 1/31/07, Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My preferred approach is to change the default behavior when pasting 
 from the clipboard to be plain text. That way you only have to use
Paste
 Special when you want to do something else (e.g. pasting a Word table 
 as RTF).  You do this by modifying the ClipboardFormatPriorites item
in
 maker.ini. I change it from
 ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF,
TEXT
 to
 ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP,
MIF, RTF

 My opionons only; I don't speak for Intel Fred Ridder Intel 
 Parsippany, NJ


 From: John Pilla [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Framers@FrameUsers.com
 Subject: Paste Special
 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:00:55 -0500
 
 I couldn't find it.
 Is there a shortcut key combination (FM 7.0)  for Paste Special?
 In MSWord, I created a shortcut key to Paste Special  Unformatted
Text.
 Now that I am working in FM (again - finally, after 6 long years) - I
find
 I need to copy a lot of content from previous versions of material in

 MSWord, into FM documents.
 Since I already have template and styles, and its not always from one

 document.  Using Paste Special is the most efficient.
 
 ~ John ~
 Sr. Learning Specialist, Educational Services MRO Software (An IBM
 Company)
 Phn: +1.781.280.2003, Fax: +1.781.280.2201 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Maximo 5 Certified, Maximo 6 Certified EAM Foundation Certificate in 
 IT Service Management 
 
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Re: Rename PDF, xrefs stop working (more)

[Shlomo Perets]

A sample PDF demonstrating this problem (even without being renamed) is the 
guest of the month at www.microtype.com/hmmm.html




Martin Polley wrote:


With some of the PDFs that I create, if I rename them, the
cross-references stop working, giving this error:

The specified file old file name does not exist.

Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? Is there a workaround?
(Other than don't rename the file...)


As I mentioned earlier, some of the older FrameMaker 5.x versions specify 
internal links with a file name target, in which case renaming the PDF 
causes bad links (even when the PDF is stand-alone, with no links pointing 
to it from other PDFs).


Upon further examination, I was able to reproduce the creation of PDF 
links which use a filename even though the link is internal in FrameMaker 
7.0, 7.1 and 7.2, but only when Save as PDF was used.  In the same 
tests, the problem was not encountered even once when printing books to a 
.ps file and then distilling to PDF.


Given this FrameMaker bug, we may have yet another reason to stick to the 
original PDF file names, yet another reason to print to .ps rather than 
Save as PDF, and yet another reason to test PDF links carefully...



Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
FrameMaker/Acrobat training  consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants

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RE: Using variables for single sourcing

[Linda G. Gallagher]

With Index Tools Pro, the index entries will continue to work, but you won't
be able to change the variables in them. The tool does create standard index
entries when you tell it to do so. Given the low cost, I suggest that anyone
else working with the files also buy and use the tool. 


~
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TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
WebWorks ePublisher templates
 
Manager, STC Consulting and Independent
Contracting SIG
http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html
 


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Linda G. Gallaher wrote:

 I use a plug-in, Index Tools Professional
 (http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html) to let me use 
 variables in the index entries. It's US$20, I believe.

Scott Prentice wrote:

 We do have a plugin, MarkerTools, that lets you use variables within
markers ..
 http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/markertools.php


Thanks very much for this information. These plug-ins look like good
solutions.

Aside from the variables, do the plug-ins create standard index entries? If
I use the plug-in, and then I share the document with another FM user who
doesn't have the plug-in, will the index entries continue to work? Will the
variables in the index entries continue to work?

David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
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Need help building a para Warning tag

[Knox Drew-KFP368]

How do I build a paragraph tag that has the title Warning, room for a
para below, a graphic to the left vertically centered, and all of that
bound by a filled rectangle? 
 
I put the word Warning into Numbering in the Paragraph Designer but
can't recall how to include a return for the warning text nor how to
include the warning graphic.
 
I'm also stuck in properly referencing the bounding box. I built a
filled rectangle on the Reference page but that comes in either above or
below the word Warning instead of enclosing it.
 
TIA,
 
Drew Knox
at Motorola
in way too cold Horsham, PA
  
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RE: Need help building a para Warning tag

[Stamm, David-P45904]

2007-03-07-03T17:30Z

Drew -

I recently went through this process.  Here's how I dealt with it.

  1.  Insert a table with one heading row, one body row, and two
columns.  For this, you might want to use a new table format.
  2.  Widen the table to suit.  Widen the first column to suit the
graphic.
  3.  In the body row, span the cells.
  4.  Into the heading row, first column, insert the graphic and align
to suit.
  5.  In the heading row, second column, apply the paragraph tag with
WARNING in the Numbering Autoformat: field.  No need to have a
return at the end of this paragraph.
  6.  In the heading row, second column, apply the specified color.
(From FrameMaker's menu bar, choose Table | Custom Ruling  Shading...
.)
  7.  Into the body row, enter your supplementary text.  For this, you
might want to use a new paragraph tag.

Good luck and

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Publications Specialist, Senior Staff
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
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Subject: Need help building a para Warning tag

How do I build a paragraph tag that has the title Warning, room for a
para below, a graphic to the left vertically centered, and all of that
bound by a filled rectangle? 
 
I put the word Warning into Numbering in the Paragraph Designer but
can't recall how to include a return for the warning text nor how to
include the warning graphic.
 
I'm also stuck in properly referencing the bounding box. I built a
filled rectangle on the Reference page but that comes in either above or
below the word Warning instead of enclosing it.
 
TIA,
 
Drew Knox
at Motorola
in way too cold Horsham, PA
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Structured Frame Questions

[Kristy Nolan]

My work group is attempting to make the change from unstructured to  
structured Frame, and are attempting to define our structures and  
corresponding elements. We are on Frame 7.0, and have learned just  
enough structure to be dangerous. This move is to try to get us into  
a single-sourcing environment. Eventually. We are using a new project  
for our documents, and aren't considering any legacy material for the  
time being.


I am looking for some pieces of information:

First, text inserts: The understanding is that these will follow the  
same EDD as the document(s) they are imported into. By using the  
associated formats document, different paragraph formats will then be  
applied. Is this correct? Are there any quirks/differences using text  
inserts in structured vs. unstructured?


Next, conditional text: We have found a plug-in that applies  
conditions to the elements, but it appears that this will still make  
our process very manual in the case of text inserts. Right now, the  
thought is with nested pieces, where some elements need to be hidden  
for specific information products. Is this the best (or very good)  
way to do this? Are there better alternatives?


Thanks!
Kristy

Kristy Nolan
Developer II
Ground Ops Training DAL-3TR
Southwest Airlines
8008 Cedar Springs
Dallas, TX 75235
214-792-2472


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RE: Need help building a para Warning tag

[John Sgammato]

Maybe Publishing Smarter's
http://www.publishingsmarter.com/docs/teach/NoteTipCaution.pdf can do
what you need?
 

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Subject: Need help building a para Warning tag

How do I build a paragraph tag that has the title Warning, room for a
para below, a graphic to the left vertically centered, and all of that
bound by a filled rectangle? 
 
I put the word Warning into Numbering in the Paragraph Designer but
can't recall how to include a return for the warning text nor how to
include the warning graphic.
 
I'm also stuck in properly referencing the bounding box. I built a
filled rectangle on the Reference page but that comes in either above or
below the word Warning instead of enclosing it.
 
TIA,
 
Drew Knox
at Motorola
in way too cold Horsham, PA
  
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RE: Need help building a para Warning tag

[Daniel Doornbos]

Hi Drew,

I do something like what you described in my docs by creating a
four-cell table for the warning message.
The top left cell has an an imported graphic with the anchored frame set
to Run Into Paragraph.
The top and bottom left cells are straddled.
The top right cell holds the heading (level of warning), centered in
bold text.
The bottom right cell holds the content in regular, left-aligned text.
I apply custom rules to the bottom right (text) cell.
The ruling you mentioned is applied in the Table Designer, Ruling tab,
Outside Ruling box.
I have these little tables already made up, so I can paste a warning
into the text flow where I want it, then I add the appropriate text for
the warning. 
The tables anchor to the paragraph above.
HTH

Daniel Doornbos
Technical Writer
Promise Technology, Inc.
408 228-1437
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Subject: Need help building a para Warning tag


How do I build a paragraph tag that has the title Warning, room for a
para below, a graphic to the left vertically centered, and all of that
bound by a filled rectangle? 
 
I put the word Warning into Numbering in the Paragraph Designer but
can't recall how to include a return for the warning text nor how to
include the warning graphic.
 
I'm also stuck in properly referencing the bounding box. I built a
filled rectangle on the Reference page but that comes in either above or
below the word Warning instead of enclosing it.
 
TIA,
 
Drew Knox
at Motorola
in way too cold Horsham, PA
  
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RE: Need help building a para Warning tag

[Combs, Richard]

Knox Drew-KFP368 wrote: 
 
 How do I build a paragraph tag that has the title Warning, 
 room for a para below, a graphic to the left vertically 
 centered, and all of that bound by a filled rectangle? 

As others suggested, a table is the way to go. There's simply no
reasonable way to do a bounding box and/or background fill except with
table ruling and shading. 

David Stamm's procedure will get you there. But I'd recommend a couple
of changes that simplify its later use. If you do it as a single-row
table (no straddles) and insert the graphic my way, then in the future,
you just have to select Insert  Table and pick the format to create the
whole thing ready for the warning text. Here's how: 

1) Put your graphic for this warning in a graphic frame placed on a ref
page. In the Object Properties dialog of the graphic frame, give it a
name -- let's call it WarnGraphic. 

2) Create a one-row, two-column table -- let's call it WarnTable -- with
the alignment, width, ruling, shading, spacing, etc., you want (you can
tweak all this as you see it take shape). No heading row is needed or
desired.

3) For the left cell (where you want the graphic), define a new pgf
format -- let's call it WarnGraphicPgf -- dedicated to the purpose. Font
doesn't matter, but give it a small font size, line spacing and space
above (you can play with these later).

3) In Paragraph Designer's Advanced tab, set WarnGraphicPgf's Frame
Above Pgf to WarnGraphic. This will cause the graphic to appear
automagically whenever a WarnGraphicPgf paragraph is created. 

4) For the right cell, define a new pgf format -- let's call it WarnHead
-- that has Warning as its autonumber and the font, spacing,
alignment, etc., you want. Set its Next Pgf Tag to the pgf tag you want
to use for the warning text -- let's call it WarnText. 

5) Tweak the table until everything looks right. You can play with
WarnGraphicPgf's Cell Vertical Alignment, Cell Margins, Space Above,
etc., to get the graphic aligned as you want it.  

6) When your WarnTable table looks perfect, Update All. This saves not
only the general table layout, but the initial paragraph in the first
pgf of each column. 

The next time you insert a new WarnTable table, it will have the graphic
in the left cell and the word Warning in the right cell. Click in the
right cell (putting your cursor into the empty WarnHead pgf), press
Enter to create a WarnText pgf, and start typing your warning text. 

Works for me; YMMV. LMK if any of that isn't clear. 

Richard


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RE: Need help building a para Warning tag

[Combs, Richard]

I wrote: 

 my way, then in the future, you just have to select Insert  
 Table and pick the format to create the whole thing ready for 

I meant, of course, select Table  Insert Table... Sheesh!

I guess I've reached the age where I shouldn't try to do stuff like that
from memory. ;-)

Richard


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Somewhat OT Section 508 and Note, Caution, and Warning Symbols in FM

[Diane Gaskill]

Hi everyone,

We are developing new FM templates for our next release of docs, and we have 
decided to make them 508 compliant.  I have reviewed quite a bit of information 
I found on the net (including the government sites) but I cannot find the 
answer to the one question I have regarding 508.

Are there special 508 versions of Note, Caution, and Warning symbols, or do the 
ANSI standard symbols meet 508 requirements?  At first glance, the ANSI symbols 
seem to meet the requirements, and we are including the words Note, Caution, 
and Warning (in the right cell of the 2-celled tables on the reference page) 
which is what 508 specifies, but I thought I'd check with all the experts on 
our list to make sure.

Thanks in advance for any shared knowledge.

Diane Gaskll
Hitachi Data Systems
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Structured Frame contractor/trainer in Japan

[Mollye Barrett]

   One of our Japanese clients needs a Structured Frame contractor = to work on
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Re: Somewhat OT Section 508 and Note, Caution, and Warning Symbols in FM

[Joe Malin]

Call it accessibility (abbreviated A10Y) unless you mean specifically 
that you need to certify under section 508.


Your printed documentation is not likely to be the primary source for 
handicapped users. I assume that they will either use PDF or HTML to 
access the documentation, either with screen readers, or viewers (for 
the deaf) or similar devices. In turn, this means that visually-impaired 
users should get easy-to-read graphics /plus/ text equivalents. The ANSI 
standard symbols ought to be as good as any, but make them visible and 
provide text equivalents for them. Also, remember that color should be 
unimportant.


Joe

Diane Gaskill wrote:

Hi everyone,

We are developing new FM templates for our next release of docs, and we have 
decided to make them 508 compliant.  I have reviewed quite a bit of information 
I found on the net (including the government sites) but I cannot find the 
answer to the one question I have regarding 508.

Are there special 508 versions of Note, Caution, and Warning symbols, or do the 
ANSI standard symbols meet 508 requirements?  At first glance, the ANSI symbols 
seem to meet the requirements, and we are including the words Note, Caution, 
and Warning (in the right cell of the 2-celled tables on the reference page) 
which is what 508 specifies, but I thought I'd check with all the experts on 
our list to make sure.

Thanks in advance for any shared knowledge.

Diane Gaskll
Hitachi Data Systems
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automating a custom save command?

[Jakob Fix]

Hello,

I would like to automate a task that consists of saving all files in a
book using a *custom* save command that is available through the use
of a custom FDK client, without reprogramming the client.

Currently, I have to open the book, open all files inside it, and then
save them one by one, either selecting "Save Jap File" (the custom
save command) from the File menu, or by using the keyboard Alt, F, J
(J being the short cut for this command), Ctrl+F4 to close the file.
Once books get bigger, this gets tedious very quickly.

I wonder if Framescript can help here (there's the CallClient command,
but I can't figure out whether this could be used for my purpose), or
another batch type tool.  Thanks for your help in advance.

By the way, Frame is 5.5.6+SGML, and the files are structured.

-- 
cheers,
Jakob.

automating a custom save command?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Jakob,

CallClient will only work if the custom FDK client was designed to be called 
from the outside. FDK clients are not set up this way by default. An 
alternative would be to have a FrameScript script do what the FDK client 
does, in addition to closing the file. Do you know exactly what the Save Jap 
File command is doing?

Otherwise, you could use a macro-type program where you could record all of 
the keystrokes involved and then replay it.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

> Hello,
>
> I would like to automate a task that consists of saving all files in a
> book using a *custom* save command that is available through the use
> of a custom FDK client, without reprogramming the client.
>
> Currently, I have to open the book, open all files inside it, and then
> save them one by one, either selecting "Save Jap File" (the custom
> save command) from the File menu, or by using the keyboard Alt, F, J
> (J being the short cut for this command), Ctrl+F4 to close the file.
> Once books get bigger, this gets tedious very quickly.
>
> I wonder if Framescript can help here (there's the CallClient command,
> but I can't figure out whether this could be used for my purpose), or
> another batch type tool.  Thanks for your help in advance.
>
> By the way, Frame is 5.5.6+SGML, and the files are structured.
>
> -- 
> cheers,
> Jakob.
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Auto Hide Element Boundaries?

[Gordon McLean]

Problem solved.

Solution: I am an idiot.

The RestoreWindows plugin was turning on element boundaries everytime I
opened the file. Like I asked it to...

I've left your suggestions in this reply Peter, as they are exactly what I
WAS doing and should help anyone without the RestoreWindows plugin
installed.

Thanks to all for their responses. My new brain arrives on Friday.

Gordon


-Original Message-
Subject: Re: Auto Hide Element Boundaries?

Hi, Gordon:

It sounds as if you're not saving the files in the state you want them to
open in. The display of element boundaries and tags, as well as text
symbols, and borders, and zoom percentage, are all saved with files. A quick
way to manipulate multiple files is to use Shift+File. When used from a book
window, the Open All, Save All, Close All, actions only work on book files;
when used from a non-book window, the Save All and Close all work on all
open files, book members or free-standing.




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Paste Special

[Pinkham, Jim]

Yankee Clipper (YC3) is also a very helpful freeware clipboard manager,
with a broad range of functionality
http://www.intelexual.com/products/index.aspx. You can hide it, dock it,
drag and drop from it -- and there are options that do and don't retain
the formatting (text vs. Rich Text, for example).  I often use this
program in tandem with eCleaner
(http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file/fid,6492-order,1-page,1-c,alldown
loads/description.html) -- to clean up junk when copying from other
formats (e.g., grabbing text from a PDF but not wanting the extra line
endings). 

HovText may still be the best tool for the clean text paste, but these
others are great utilities if you have broader needs. Another nice thing
about YC3, for instance, it has a much bigger history than just 10
items.

Jim 

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jim.pinkham=voith@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jim.pinkham=voith.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 10:26 AM
To: Alison Carrico; Seraphim Larsen; Framers at frameusers.com
Cc: John.Pilla at us.ibm.com; Fred Ridder
Subject: RE: Paste Special

HovText is a System Tray tool that strips all formatting when you copy,
thus providing a clean text past.  http://hovtext.com/ 

I can't work without this tool here.


Steve Cavanaugh
Sr. Technical Writer
NAT Seattle Inc.

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[mailto:framers-bounces+scavanaugh=nat-seattle.com at lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Alison Carrico
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:38 PM
To: Seraphim Larsen; Framers at frameusers.com
Cc: John.Pilla at us.ibm.com; Fred Ridder
Subject: RE: Paste Special

Is there a way to force Frame to paste as text when copy/pasting WITHIN
Frame?  Below is the altered line in my .ini file, but I still have to
"Paste Special" when copying between Frame docs or within the same doc.

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, RTF, OLE 2, FILE, EMF, META, DIB, BMP,
MIF


-Original Message-
On Behalf Of Seraphim Larsen
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:42 PM
To: Framers at frameusers.com
Cc: John.Pilla at us.ibm.com; Fred Ridder
Subject: Re: Paste Special

I also prefer Fred's method.

But if you still need a keyboard shortcut, it's Ctrl-Shift-V


Seraphim Larsen, Senior Technical Writer Intel Corporation *
DEG/ECG/Ops/TechComm * Chandler, AZ My opinions only; I don't speak for
Intel.



On 1/31/07, Fred Ridder  wrote:
> My preferred approach is to change the default behavior when pasting 
> from the clipboard to be plain text. That way you only have to use
Paste
> Special when you want to do something else (e.g. pasting a Word table 
> as RTF).  You do this by modifying the ClipboardFormatPriorites item
in
> maker.ini. I change it from
> ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF,
TEXT
> to
> ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP,
MIF, RTF
>
> My opionons only; I don't speak for Intel Fred Ridder Intel 
> Parsippany, NJ
>
>
> >From: John Pilla 
> >To: Framers at FrameUsers.com
> >Subject: Paste Special
> >Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:00:55 -0500
> >
> >I couldn't find it.
> >Is there a shortcut key combination (FM 7.0)  for Paste Special?
> >In MSWord, I created a shortcut key to Paste Special > Unformatted
Text.
> >Now that I am working in FM (again - finally, after 6 long years) - I
find
> >I need to copy a lot of content from previous versions of material in

> >MSWord, into FM documents.
> >Since I already have template and styles, and its not always from one

> >document.  Using Paste Special is the most efficient.
> >
> >~ John ~
> >Sr. Learning Specialist, Educational Services MRO Software (An IBM
> >Company)
> >Phn: +1.781.280.2003, Fax: +1.781.280.2201 John.Pilla at us.ibm.com 
> >
> >Maximo 5 Certified, Maximo 6 Certified EAM Foundation Certificate in 
> >IT Service Management 
> >
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Rename PDF, xrefs stop working (more)

[Shlomo Perets]

A sample PDF demonstrating this problem (even without being renamed) is the 
guest of the month at www.microtype.com/hmmm.html


>Martin Polley wrote:
>
>>With some of the PDFs that I create, if I rename them, the
>>cross-references stop working, giving this error:
>>
>> The specified file  does not exist.
>>
>>Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? Is there a workaround?
>>(Other than "don't rename the file"...)
>
>As I mentioned earlier, some of the older FrameMaker 5.x versions specify 
>internal links with a file name target, in which case renaming the PDF 
>causes bad links (even when the PDF is stand-alone, with no links pointing 
>to it from other PDFs).
>
>Upon further examination, I was able to reproduce the creation of PDF 
>links which use a filename even though the link is internal in FrameMaker 
>7.0, 7.1 and 7.2, but only when "Save as PDF" was used.  In the same 
>tests, the problem was not encountered even once when printing books to a 
>.ps file and then distilling to PDF.
>
>Given this FrameMaker bug, we may have yet another reason to stick to the 
>original PDF file names, yet another reason to print to .ps rather than 
>Save as PDF, and yet another reason to test PDF links carefully...
>
>
>Shlomo Perets
>
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Using variables for single sourcing

[Linda G. Gallagher]

With Index Tools Pro, the index entries will continue to work, but you won't
be able to change the variables in them. The tool does create standard index
entries when you tell it to do so. Given the low cost, I suggest that anyone
else working with the files also buy and use the tool. 


~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
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User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
WebWorks ePublisher templates
 
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From: framers-bounces+lindag=techcomplus@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+lindag=techcomplus.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of David Shaked (Wernick)
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:46 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Using variables for single sourcing

Linda G. Gallaher wrote:

> I use a plug-in, Index Tools Professional
> (http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html) to let me use 
> variables in the index entries. It's US$20, I believe.

Scott Prentice wrote:

> We do have a plugin, MarkerTools, that lets you use variables within
markers ..
> http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/markertools.php


Thanks very much for this information. These plug-ins look like good
solutions.

Aside from the variables, do the plug-ins create standard index entries? If
I use the plug-in, and then I share the document with another FM user who
doesn't have the plug-in, will the index entries continue to work? Will the
variables in the index entries continue to work?

David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks Consultants


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Need help building a para Warning tag

[Knox Drew-KFP368]

How do I build a paragraph tag that has the title "Warning," room for a
para below, a graphic to the left vertically centered, and all of that
bound by a filled rectangle? 

I put the word "Warning" into Numbering in the Paragraph Designer but
can't recall how to include a return for the warning text nor how to
include the warning graphic.

I'm also stuck in properly referencing the bounding box. I built a
filled rectangle on the Reference page but that comes in either above or
below the word "Warning" instead of enclosing it.

TIA,

Drew Knox
at Motorola
in way too cold Horsham, PA

Need help building a para Warning tag

[Stamm, David-P45904]

2007-03-07-03T17:30Z

Drew -

I recently went through this process.  Here's how I dealt with it.

  1.  Insert a table with one heading row, one body row, and two
columns.  For this, you might want to use a new table format.
  2.  Widen the table to suit.  Widen the first column to suit the
graphic.
  3.  In the body row, span the cells.
  4.  Into the heading row, first column, insert the graphic and align
to suit.
  5.  In the heading row, second column, apply the paragraph tag with
"WARNING" in the Numbering "Autoformat:" field.  No need to have a
return at the end of this paragraph.
  6.  In the heading row, second column, apply the specified color.
(From FrameMaker's menu bar, choose Table | Custom Ruling & Shading...
.)
  7.  Into the body row, enter your supplementary text.  For this, you
might want to use a new paragraph tag.

Good luck and

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Publications Specialist, Senior Staff
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Command Systems
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200
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Sent: 2007-02-07-Wednesday 11:41
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Need help building a para Warning tag

How do I build a paragraph tag that has the title "Warning," room for a
para below, a graphic to the left vertically centered, and all of that
bound by a filled rectangle? 

I put the word "Warning" into Numbering in the Paragraph Designer but
can't recall how to include a return for the warning text nor how to
include the warning graphic.

I'm also stuck in properly referencing the bounding box. I built a
filled rectangle on the Reference page but that comes in either above or
below the word "Warning" instead of enclosing it.

TIA,

Drew Knox
at Motorola
in way too cold Horsham, PA

Structured Frame Questions

[Kristy Nolan]

My work group is attempting to make the change from unstructured to  
structured Frame, and are attempting to define our structures and  
corresponding elements. We are on Frame 7.0, and have learned just  
enough structure to be dangerous. This move is to try to get us into  
a single-sourcing environment. Eventually. We are using a new project  
for our documents, and aren't considering any legacy material for the  
time being.

I am looking for some pieces of information:

First, text inserts: The understanding is that these will follow the  
same EDD as the document(s) they are imported into. By using the  
associated formats document, different paragraph formats will then be  
applied. Is this correct? Are there any quirks/differences using text  
inserts in structured vs. unstructured?

Next, conditional text: We have found a plug-in that applies  
conditions to the elements, but it appears that this will still make  
our process very manual in the case of text inserts. Right now, the  
thought is with nested pieces, where some elements need to be hidden  
for specific information products. Is this the best (or very good)  
way to do this? Are there better alternatives?

Thanks!
Kristy

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Need help building a para Warning tag

[Steve Rickaby]

At 11:40 -0500 7/2/07, Knox Drew-KFP368 wrote:

>How do I build a paragraph tag that has the title "Warning," room for a
>para below, a graphic to the left vertically centered, and all of that
>bound by a filled rectangle?

I would approach this by building the whole thing as a two-column one-row table 
and using Silicon Prairie's AutoText plug-in ($10) to pop instances of it into 
the text as required.



>I put the word "Warning" into Numbering in the Paragraph Designer but
>can't recall how to include a return for the warning text nor how to
>include the warning graphic.

I'm not sure that it can be made to do that.

>I'm also stuck in properly referencing the bounding box. I built a
>filled rectangle on the Reference page but that comes in either above or
>below the word "Warning" instead of enclosing it.

Tables make this problem go away. However, if you really really want to do it 
this way, you have to do it with two paras, one to hold the graphics. You then 
use negative spacing below the para containing the graphic, and negative 
spacing above the para containing the warning, to slide the graphic behind the 
warning para. But I have a feeling that FrameMaker's rendering engine won't 
handle a box that completely surrounds a para in this way, although I've used 
it to place an L-shaped rule under and to the right of text.

In structured FrameMaker you can design your elements to 'glue' binary para 
pairs like this together.

-- 
Steve Rickaby BSc MBCS CITP MISTC  

WordMongers Ltd

Reg office Larks Cottage, Treen, St Levan, Penzance TR19 6LG
Registered in the UK, no. 3130681, VAT reg no 557 4598 91

Need help building a para Warning tag

[John Sgammato]

Maybe Publishing Smarter's
http://www.publishingsmarter.com/docs/teach/NoteTipCaution.pdf can do
what you need?


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[mailto:framers-bounces+jsgammato=imprivata.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Knox Drew-KFP368
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:41 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Need help building a para Warning tag

How do I build a paragraph tag that has the title "Warning," room for a
para below, a graphic to the left vertically centered, and all of that
bound by a filled rectangle? 

I put the word "Warning" into Numbering in the Paragraph Designer but
can't recall how to include a return for the warning text nor how to
include the warning graphic.

I'm also stuck in properly referencing the bounding box. I built a
filled rectangle on the Reference page but that comes in either above or
below the word "Warning" instead of enclosing it.

TIA,

Drew Knox
at Motorola
in way too cold Horsham, PA

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Need help building a para Warning tag

[Peter Gold]

Search Google for: reficons cudspan

Reficons is one way to do it, and it's free.

There are also other free helpful FrameMaker tools at this great site.

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Need help building a para Warning tag

[Daniel Doornbos]

Hi Drew,

I do something like what you described in my docs by creating a
four-cell table for the warning message.
The top left cell has an an imported graphic with the anchored frame set
to Run Into Paragraph.
The top and bottom left cells are straddled.
The top right cell holds the heading (level of warning), centered in
bold text.
The bottom right cell holds the content in regular, left-aligned text.
I apply custom rules to the bottom right (text) cell.
The ruling you mentioned is applied in the Table Designer, Ruling tab,
Outside Ruling box.
I have these little tables already made up, so I can paste a warning
into the text flow where I want it, then I add the appropriate text for
the warning. 
The tables anchor to the paragraph above.
HTH

Daniel Doornbos
Technical Writer
Promise Technology, Inc.
408 228-1437
danield at promise.com 


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Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:41 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Need help building a para Warning tag


How do I build a paragraph tag that has the title "Warning," room for a
para below, a graphic to the left vertically centered, and all of that
bound by a filled rectangle? 

I put the word "Warning" into Numbering in the Paragraph Designer but
can't recall how to include a return for the warning text nor how to
include the warning graphic.

I'm also stuck in properly referencing the bounding box. I built a
filled rectangle on the Reference page but that comes in either above or
below the word "Warning" instead of enclosing it.

TIA,

Drew Knox
at Motorola
in way too cold Horsham, PA

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Need help building a para Warning tag

[Combs, Richard]

Knox Drew-KFP368 wrote: 

> How do I build a paragraph tag that has the title "Warning," 
> room for a para below, a graphic to the left vertically 
> centered, and all of that bound by a filled rectangle? 

As others suggested, a table is the way to go. There's simply no
reasonable way to do a bounding box and/or background fill except with
table ruling and shading. 

David Stamm's procedure will get you there. But I'd recommend a couple
of changes that simplify its later use. If you do it as a single-row
table (no straddles) and insert the graphic my way, then in the future,
you just have to select Insert > Table and pick the format to create the
whole thing ready for the warning text. Here's how: 

1) Put your graphic for this warning in a graphic frame placed on a ref
page. In the Object Properties dialog of the graphic frame, give it a
name -- let's call it WarnGraphic. 

2) Create a one-row, two-column table -- let's call it WarnTable -- with
the alignment, width, ruling, shading, spacing, etc., you want (you can
tweak all this as you see it take shape). No heading row is needed or
desired.

3) For the left cell (where you want the graphic), define a new pgf
format -- let's call it WarnGraphicPgf -- dedicated to the purpose. Font
doesn't matter, but give it a small font size, line spacing and space
above (you can play with these later).

3) In Paragraph Designer's Advanced tab, set WarnGraphicPgf's Frame
Above Pgf to WarnGraphic. This will cause the graphic to appear
automagically whenever a WarnGraphicPgf paragraph is created. 

4) For the right cell, define a new pgf format -- let's call it WarnHead
-- that has "Warning" as its autonumber and the font, spacing,
alignment, etc., you want. Set its Next Pgf Tag to the pgf tag you want
to use for the warning text -- let's call it WarnText. 

5) Tweak the table until everything looks right. You can play with
WarnGraphicPgf's Cell Vertical Alignment, Cell Margins, Space Above,
etc., to get the graphic aligned as you want it.  

6) When your WarnTable table looks perfect, Update All. This saves not
only the general table layout, but the initial paragraph in the first
pgf of each column. 

The next time you insert a new WarnTable table, it will have the graphic
in the left cell and the word "Warning" in the right cell. Click in the
right cell (putting your cursor into the empty WarnHead pgf), press
Enter to create a WarnText pgf, and start typing your warning text. 

Works for me; YMMV. LMK if any of that isn't clear. 

Richard


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Need help building a para Warning tag

[Joe Malin]

I use a table rather than a tag. You can build a one-row two-cell table; 
the left cell has the graphic and the right cell has the text. You can 
then put the paragraph tags you want into the text cell.

Knox Drew-KFP368 wrote:
> How do I build a paragraph tag that has the title "Warning," room for a
> para below, a graphic to the left vertically centered, and all of that
> bound by a filled rectangle? 
>  
> I put the word "Warning" into Numbering in the Paragraph Designer but
> can't recall how to include a return for the warning text nor how to
> include the warning graphic.
>  
> I'm also stuck in properly referencing the bounding box. I built a
> filled rectangle on the Reference page but that comes in either above or
> below the word "Warning" instead of enclosing it.
>  
> TIA,
>  
> Drew Knox
> at Motorola
> in way too cold Horsham, PA
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Need help building a para Warning tag

[Combs, Richard]

I wrote: 

> my way, then in the future, you just have to select Insert > 
> Table and pick the format to create the whole thing ready for 

I meant, of course, "select Table > Insert Table..." Sheesh!

I guess I've reached the age where I shouldn't try to do stuff like that
from memory. ;-)

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Somewhat OT Section 508 and Note, Caution, and Warning Symbols in FM

[Diane Gaskill]

Hi everyone,

We are developing new FM templates for our next release of docs, and we have 
decided to make them 508 compliant.  I have reviewed quite a bit of information 
I found on the net (including the government sites) but I cannot find the 
answer to the one question I have regarding 508.

Are there special 508 versions of Note, Caution, and Warning symbols, or do the 
ANSI standard symbols meet 508 requirements?  At first glance, the ANSI symbols 
seem to meet the requirements, and we are including the words Note, Caution, 
and Warning (in the right cell of the 2-celled tables on the reference page) 
which is what 508 specifies, but I thought I'd check with all the experts on 
our list to make sure.

Thanks in advance for any shared knowledge.

Diane Gaskll
Hitachi Data Systems

Somewhat OT Section 508 and Note, Caution, and Warning Symbols in FM

[Joe Malin]

Call it accessibility (abbreviated A10Y) unless you mean specifically 
that you need to certify under section 508.

Your printed documentation is not likely to be the primary source for 
handicapped users. I assume that they will either use PDF or HTML to 
access the documentation, either with screen readers, or viewers (for 
the deaf) or similar devices. In turn, this means that visually-impaired 
users should get easy-to-read graphics /plus/ text equivalents. The ANSI 
standard symbols ought to be as good as any, but make them visible and 
provide text equivalents for them. Also, remember that color should be 
unimportant.

Joe

Diane Gaskill wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> We are developing new FM templates for our next release of docs, and we have 
> decided to make them 508 compliant.  I have reviewed quite a bit of 
> information I found on the net (including the government sites) but I cannot 
> find the answer to the one question I have regarding 508.
>
> Are there special 508 versions of Note, Caution, and Warning symbols, or do 
> the ANSI standard symbols meet 508 requirements?  At first glance, the ANSI 
> symbols seem to meet the requirements, and we are including the words Note, 
> Caution, and Warning (in the right cell of the 2-celled tables on the 
> reference page) which is what 508 specifies, but I thought I'd check with all 
> the experts on our list to make sure.
>
> Thanks in advance for any shared knowledge.
>
> Diane Gaskll
> Hitachi Data Systems
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