Re: Strange right/left pages

[Paul Wilbraham]

Pat

Do the flows on the left/right master pages have different flow tags?

This would result in the behaviour you describe?

--Paul Wilbraham

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From: Pat Christenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: Strange right/left pages


 The doc has no Custom master pages, just right and left. Also no
 custom body pages overriding master pages. And it's set to double-
 sided with a right first page.

 Thanks for trying.

 Pat

 On Dec 18, 2007, at 1:49 PM, Stuart Rogers wrote:

 Pat Christenson wrote:
 Hi -
 I'm running FrameMaker 7.2b144 under Windows XP. I have a set of
 landscape templates. On the right/left pages, the page numbers
 are  bottom/top of page in the left margin. This works fine in all
 the  templates except one. It should be applying right, left,
 right, left,  etc. in the usual way but it thinks everything after
 the first page  is a left page.
 I've checked the masterPageMaps reference page and that's not the
 problem.
 Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

 Is the first page a Right, Left, or custom master page?  Perhaps
 you accidentally set the Format  Page Layout  Pagination to
 Single Sided?

 -- 
 Stuart Rogers
 Technical Communicator
 Phoenix Geophysics Limited
 Toronto, ON, Canada
 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Glossary for both paper and online help

[Andersen, Verner Engell VEA]

All

How do you insert glossary items in your Framemaker file for use in the
paper version as an alphabetical list of glossary terms and in the
online help as drop-down hotspots/hovertext.

 

I use Framemaker 7.2 and Webworks Publisher 7.2 with the webhelp 5.0
output format.

 

I used to have a generated alphabetical list of glossary markers for the
paper manual and some other markers for the online part.

 

I have seen various ways of doing this in Framemaker

 

Using gotolink and newlink markers

Using acronymTitle and AbbreviationTitle makers.

 

I would prefer an automatic solution which lists all items in the paper
version of the glossary alphabetically. 

 

Best regards,

 

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Text flow oddity

[Grant Hogarth]

I've got an odd one
I'm running FM 7.1/Win XP
I'm generating a single-sided document with two text flows in parallel
columns.
Flow A is generated list (LOP or TOC, both behave the same for this
issue).
Flow B is a pasted text list.
Basically I'm making sure that I've got a heading for each item in the
pasted list.

Problem
When I regenerate the list, Page one behaves as expected, with the two
text flows running in parallel. The problem comes on the following
pages.
The Pasted list (Flow B) runs onto the following page normally.
However, the Generated list *skips* a page, and begins flowing again on
page 3.

Both flows are set to autoconnect.

Suggestions???

Grant


 
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Has anyone used certain languages in FrameMaker 8

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

I am preparing a quote for a client in new languages. Has anyone had success 
publishing the following languages in FrameMaker 8:
 
Cantonese (zh-HK), Vietnamese, Armenian and Hmong. 
 
If you have published in these languages but have run into gotchas, I would 
appreciately being alerted to those.

P.s. if anyone is aware of a published list of which languages do not work in 
FrameMaker 8 (beyond BiDi Arabic and Hebrew) please share that information also.
 

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RE: Has anyone used certain languages in FrameMaker 8

[Martinek, Carla]

I had my translators run a test a few months ago, and they pulled in
several code pages and languages into a single document, with no
problems.  I had 30 different languages, including Eastern and Western
European languages, Cyrillic, and multiple Asian languages (zhcn, zhtw,
ko, ja).  Unfortunately, none of the ones you listed, but I wouldn't
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Re: Strange right/left pages - SOLVED

[Pat Christenson]

I played around with this and was able to correct the problem even  
though I'm still not sure exactly what was wrong.

There was a minor discrepancy in the column width on the Right/Left  
master pages and this, combined with balance columns being turned on,  
resulted in the problem. Unfortunately, fixing the column widths  
didn't fix it but turning column balance off did. Since column  
balance is essential to the files,  I ended up rebuilding the  
template with correct column widths and column balance ON and  
importing Page Layouts and Doc Properties into the files.

I still don't know why importing corrects it when making those same  
changes in an individual file doesn't but hey, at least it's working  
now.

Thanks to all who responded -

Pat

On Dec 19, 2007, at 1:46 AM, Paul Wilbraham wrote:

 Pat

 Do the flows on the left/right master pages have different flow tags?

 This would result in the behaviour you describe?

 --Paul Wilbraham

 Pat Christenson wrote:
 Hi -
 I'm running FrameMaker 7.2b144 under Windows XP. I have a set of
 landscape templates. On the right/left pages, the page numbers
 are  bottom/top of page in the left margin. This works fine in all
 the  templates except one. It should be applying right, left,
 right, left,  etc. in the usual way but it thinks everything after
 the first page  is a left page.
 I've checked the masterPageMaps reference page and that's not the
 problem.
 Any ideas? Thanks in advance.


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Re: Hypertext links in Acrobat 8 documents generated from FrameMaker 8

[Austin Meredith]

Having recently upgraded on the XP PC from Adobe FrameMaker 7 and 
Acrobat Pro 7 to FM8.0p266 and Acrobat Pro 8.1.1 and Adobe Reader 
8.1.1, we can't get our distilled hypertext buttons to function 
anymore. Our Kouroo project is dead in the water!

We've tried View Generated PDF in Acrobat, and we've tried 
Generate PDF Bookmarks, and we've tried Generate Tagged PDF, and 
Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs, etc.

The routine, which worked fine in FM7 in distilling Acrobat7 docs, 
but doesn't seem to be functioning for us in version 8, has been 
while distilling to Embed All Page Thumbnails, and to Manage 
Embedded Index, and to Automatically generate web links on All 
pages, and to add a document description under Properties, and to 
Reduce File Size, and then to Enable for Commenting and Analysis 
in Adobe Reader.

However, now, whenever one punches a hypertext button on a web page 
that we have generated, the error message we always get is There was 
an error while performing an action. Attempt to call a method that 
has not been implemented. These are hypertext buttons that work fine 
on the PC, in connecting one FrameMaker8 document to another 
FrameMaker8 document -- but in between two distilled Acrobat8 
documents on the web, none of them work at all.

An example of this would be the interplay between 
http://www.kouroo.info/kouroo/thumbnails/G/TheGrimkeSisters.pdf and 
http://www.kouroo.info/kouroo/thumbnails/W/TheodoreWeld.pdf

Please somebody -- tell me that you do this successfully, that it 
does still work in 8??? Reassurance would help a lot at this point.


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default Distiller zoom on open setting

[Ben Hechter]

Hi Folks,

While the PDF thread is still warm...

I once knew where to find the default Distiller zoom on open setting, but it 
has mysteriously escaped me. 

Does anyone have the silver bullet?

Thanks!

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Maintaining character tags in cross references

[rebecca officer]

Hi Jerilynne

It's do-able but painful. I worked it out (with forum help :-) a while ago for 
preserving italics in courier font in xrefs. 

Basically, FM only preserves font family info in xrefs, so you have to fool it 
into thinking that the bold/italic/whatever form of the font is a separate font 
family. To do this, you put entries in the maker.ini file.

This was the process I took to get the italics in courier:

1. Close FM.

2. Back up maker.ini, then in the [WindowsToFrameFontAliases] section of 
maker.ini, replace this line:
Courier, Italic, *=Courier, Oblique, *, Regular
with this line:
Courier, Italic, *=CourierItalic, Oblique, *, Regular

This makes FM call the italics Courier font "CourierItalic".

3. Open FM. Define the character tag to use CourierItalic instead of Courier.

If different xrefs are supposed to be different fonts, you'd have to define 
separate xref formats for each font. You can't just specify 
italics/bold/whatever and leave the font name "as is". And if you're sharing FM 
documents, everyone has to make the same change.

Cheers, Rebecca


>>> "Jerilynne Knight"  18/12/07 09:00 >>>
Hello all and best wishes for an amazing holiday season

It has been a while since I used Frame so I was trying to rememberis
there a way to maintain the character tags in a cross reference. For
example, the source text has been neatly formatted with character tags to
emphasize the names of the menu options. When this text is cross referenced,
the character tag does not show up, although the text is correct, including
specially formatted areas. Am I forgetting something or is this impossible?

Thanks bunches for your help!

Sincerely

Jerilynne Knight
Simply Written, Inc.
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Strange right/left pages

[Paul Wilbraham]

Pat

Do the flows on the left/right master pages have different flow tags?

This would result in the behaviour you describe?

--Paul Wilbraham

- Original Message - 
From: "Pat Christenson" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: Strange right/left pages


> The doc has no Custom master pages, just right and left. Also no
> custom body pages overriding master pages. And it's set to double-
> sided with a right first page.
>
> Thanks for trying.
>
> Pat
>
> On Dec 18, 2007, at 1:49 PM, Stuart Rogers wrote:
>
>> Pat Christenson wrote:
>>> Hi -
>>> I'm running FrameMaker 7.2b144 under Windows XP. I have a set of
>>> landscape templates. On the right/left pages, the page numbers
>>> are  bottom/top of page in the left margin. This works fine in all
>>> the  templates except one. It should be applying right, left,
>>> right, left,  etc. in the usual way but it thinks everything after
>>> the first page  is a left page.
>>> I've checked the masterPageMaps reference page and that's not the
>>> problem.
>>> Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Is the first page a Right, Left, or custom master page?  Perhaps
>> you accidentally set the Format > Page Layout > Pagination to
>> Single Sided?
>>
>> -- 
>> Stuart Rogers
>> Technical Communicator
>> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
>> Toronto, ON, Canada
>> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
>>
>> srogers phoenix-geophysics com
>>
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Glossary for both paper and online help

[Andersen, Verner Engell VEA]

All

How do you insert glossary items in your Framemaker file for use in the
paper version as an alphabetical list of glossary terms and in the
online help as drop-down hotspots/hovertext.



I use Framemaker 7.2 and Webworks Publisher 7.2 with the webhelp 5.0
output format.



I used to have a generated alphabetical list of glossary markers for the
paper manual and some other markers for the online part.



I have seen various ways of doing this in Framemaker



Using gotolink and newlink markers

Using acronymTitle and AbbreviationTitle makers.



I would prefer an automatic solution which lists all items in the paper
version of the glossary alphabetically. 



Best regards,



Verner


Radiometer Medical ApS 
Akandevej 21 
DK-2700 Bronshoj 
Denmark 
Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 
CVR: 13496188



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Text flow oddity

[Combs, Richard]

Grant Hogarth wrote:

> I'm running FM 7.1/Win XP
> I'm generating a single-sided document with two text flows in 
> parallel columns.
> Flow A is generated list (LOP or TOC, both behave the same 
> for this issue).
> Flow B is a pasted text list.
> Basically I'm making sure that I've got a heading for each 
> item in the pasted list.
> 
> Problem
> When I regenerate the list, Page one behaves as expected, 
> with the two text flows running in parallel. The problem 
> comes on the following pages.
> The Pasted list (Flow B) runs onto the following page normally.
> However, the Generated list *skips* a page, and begins 
> flowing again on page 3.
> 
> Both flows are set to autoconnect.

I hope you work with text symbols and borders displayed; if not, go to
the View menu and turn both on. Now look at page 2 (the page that Flow A
skips). Does the text frame in which Flow A should be actually exist?

If not, my first guess is that don't really have a single-sided doc, and
the Left master page is missing the text frame for Flow A. Go to Format
> Page Layout > Pagination to check. Or View > Master Pages.

If page 2 has the empty text frame, is there an end-of-flow symbol at
the top? If so, the text frame isn't connected to the flow. I'm not sure
how that would happen in Flow A, but not B (if you added a disconnected
page, both text frames would be disconnected). 

Once again, though, I'd suspect that you really have a 2-sided doc with
a messed-up Left master page. If that's not the case, try just deleting
page 2 (Special > Delete Pages). If you just have something messed up on
that one page, that should fix it -- page 3 will become page 2, a new
page 3 will be added, and both flows will just, um, reflow. 

HTH!
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Has anyone used certain languages in FrameMaker 8

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

I am preparing a quote for a client in new languages. Has anyone had success 
publishing the following languages in FrameMaker 8:

Cantonese (zh-HK), Vietnamese, Armenian and Hmong. 

If you have published in these languages but have run into "gotchas", I would 
appreciately being alerted to those.

P.s. if anyone is aware of a published list of which languages do not work in 
FrameMaker 8 (beyond BiDi Arabic and Hebrew) please share that information also.


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Has anyone used certain languages in FrameMaker 8

[Ann Zdunczyk]

Hi Maxwell,

I have not had any work in Frame 8 for these but Vietnamese should work OK, it 
shows up in a lot of Unicode fonts. The ones you may have trouble with are 
Armenian and Hmong. If the Unicode font does not contain these then they will 
not appear.

Z 


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Subject: Has anyone used certain languages in FrameMaker 8

I am preparing a quote for a client in new languages. Has anyone had success 
publishing the following languages in FrameMaker 8:

Cantonese (zh-HK), Vietnamese, Armenian and Hmong. 

If you have published in these languages but have run into "gotchas", I would 
appreciately being alerted to those.

P.s. if anyone is aware of a published list of which languages do not work in 
FrameMaker 8 (beyond BiDi Arabic and Hebrew) please share that information also.


Maxwell Hoffmann
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Solutions ENLASO Corporation
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Has anyone used certain languages in FrameMaker 8

[Martinek, Carla]

I had my translators run a test a few months ago, and they pulled in
several code pages and languages into a single document, with no
problems.  I had 30 different languages, including Eastern and Western
European languages, Cyrillic, and multiple Asian languages (zhcn, zhtw,
ko, ja).  Unfortunately, none of the ones you listed, but I wouldn't
expect any problems.

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Zebra Technologies Corporation
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Strange right/left pages - SOLVED

[Pat Christenson]

I played around with this and was able to correct the problem even  
though I'm still not sure exactly what was wrong.

There was a minor discrepancy in the column width on the Right/Left  
master pages and this, combined with balance columns being turned on,  
resulted in the problem. Unfortunately, fixing the column widths  
didn't fix it but turning column balance off did. Since column  
balance is essential to the files,  I ended up rebuilding the  
template with correct column widths and column balance ON and  
importing Page Layouts and Doc Properties into the files.

I still don't know why importing corrects it when making those same  
changes in an individual file doesn't but hey, at least it's working  
now.

Thanks to all who responded -

Pat

On Dec 19, 2007, at 1:46 AM, Paul Wilbraham wrote:

> Pat
>
> Do the flows on the left/right master pages have different flow tags?
>
> This would result in the behaviour you describe?
>
> --Paul Wilbraham
>>
>>> Pat Christenson wrote:
 Hi -
 I'm running FrameMaker 7.2b144 under Windows XP. I have a set of
 landscape templates. On the right/left pages, the page numbers
 are  bottom/top of page in the left margin. This works fine in all
 the  templates except one. It should be applying right, left,
 right, left,  etc. in the usual way but it thinks everything after
 the first page  is a left page.
 I've checked the masterPageMaps reference page and that's not the
 problem.
 Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>

Hypertext links in Acrobat 8 documents generated from FrameMaker 8

[Austin Meredith]

Having recently upgraded on the XP PC from Adobe FrameMaker 7 and 
Acrobat Pro 7 to FM8.0p266 and Acrobat Pro 8.1.1 and Adobe Reader 
8.1.1, we can't get our distilled hypertext buttons to function 
anymore. Our Kouroo project is dead in the water!

We've tried "View Generated PDF in Acrobat," and we've tried 
"Generate PDF Bookmarks," and we've tried "Generate Tagged PDF," and 
"Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs," etc.

The routine, which worked fine in FM7 in distilling Acrobat7 docs, 
but doesn't seem to be functioning for us in version 8, has been 
while distilling to "Embed All Page Thumbnails," and to "Manage 
Embedded Index," and to "Automatically generate web links on All 
pages," and to add a document description under "Properties," and to 
"Reduce File Size," and then to "Enable for Commenting and Analysis 
in Adobe Reader."

However, now, whenever one punches a hypertext button on a web page 
that we have generated, the error message we always get is "There was 
an error while performing an action. Attempt to call a method that 
has not been implemented." These are hypertext buttons that work fine 
on the PC, in connecting one FrameMaker8 document to another 
FrameMaker8 document -- but in between two distilled Acrobat8 
documents on the web, none of them work at all.

An example of this would be the interplay between 
http://www.kouroo.info/kouroo/thumbnails/G/TheGrimkeSisters.pdf and 
http://www.kouroo.info/kouroo/thumbnails/W/TheodoreWeld.pdf

Please somebody -- tell me that you do this successfully, that it 
does still work in 8??? Reassurance would help a lot at this point.

default Distiller zoom on open setting

[Ben Hechter]

Hi Folks,

While the PDF thread is still warm...

I once knew where to find the default Distiller zoom on open setting, but it 
has mysteriously escaped me. 

Does anyone have the silver bullet?

Thanks!

Ben Hechter
Vancouver BC
bhechter at objectives.ca
www.semitake.com


Ben Hechter Vancouver BC bhechter at yahoo.com
www.semitake.com

FM8 crashing when book building: Update

[kanti.m...@schange.com]

Hello all:

Thanks for great input.

Ran more tests yesterday in which I removed all char formatting with 
IXgen/FM6, then reopened/saved in FM8 and 
generated the book: all was well. 

Also, book that was crashing in FM8 definitely survived without our IX 
template.  BUT: the generic index maintained the 
char formats, and survived. 

Anyway, Adobe has been in touch with this, and I sent them a zip of books, 
test notes, and crash files.  They have now
been able to reproduce the problem and will get back to us. 

Kanti 

Text flow oddity

[Grant Hogarth]

Thanks Richard et al ---

Yes, Text Symbols and Borders are displayed.
Yes, Page 2 has a "end of flow" symbol at the top of the "generated"
column.
Paras are the same in both flows. Start anywhere, no frames, one widow,
no KWN.
Deleting the 2nd page and regenerating does not solve the problem
(although it does trim the static list!)
Dynamic document was created from standard FM 7.1 TOC option.
Source doc and dynamic doc are both single sided.

This *is* replicable --- I have even deleted the generated files and
started over, suspecting corruption.

I would be happy to send the pair of files (63k zipped) to anyone that
wants to look. 
(The only change is that I've stripped the table contents -- that does
not change the outcome.)

Cheers!


-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:22 AM
To: Grant Hogarth; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Text flow oddity

Grant Hogarth wrote:

> I'm running FM 7.1/Win XP
> I'm generating a single-sided document with two text flows in 
> parallel columns.
> Flow A is generated list (LOP or TOC, both behave the same 
> for this issue).
> Flow B is a pasted text list.
> Basically I'm making sure that I've got a heading for each 
> item in the pasted list.
> 
> Problem
> When I regenerate the list, Page one behaves as expected, 
> with the two text flows running in parallel. The problem 
> comes on the following pages.
> The Pasted list (Flow B) runs onto the following page normally.
> However, the Generated list *skips* a page, and begins 
> flowing again on page 3.
> 
> Both flows are set to autoconnect.

I hope you work with text symbols and borders displayed; if not, go to
the View menu and turn both on. Now look at page 2 (the page that Flow A
skips). Does the text frame in which Flow A should be actually exist?

If not, my first guess is that don't really have a single-sided doc, and
the Left master page is missing the text frame for Flow A. Go to Format
> Page Layout > Pagination to check. Or View > Master Pages.

If page 2 has the empty text frame, is there an end-of-flow symbol at
the top? If so, the text frame isn't connected to the flow. I'm not sure
how that would happen in Flow A, but not B (if you added a disconnected
page, both text frames would be disconnected). 

Once again, though, I'd suspect that you really have a 2-sided doc with
a messed-up Left master page. If that's not the case, try just deleting
page 2 (Special > Delete Pages). If you just have something messed up on
that one page, that should fix it -- page 3 will become page 2, a new
page 3 will be added, and both flows will just, um, reflow. 

HTH!
Richard


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Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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