Re: Shutdown

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

I talked to my IP Director and he advised me to google for info on
logoff scripts. I came up with this for Win XP:

QUOTE:
If you go to start  run, type gpedit.msc
This should open the local group policy.
Under the User Configuration  Window Settings  Scripts(Logon/Logoff).
There are key/values for logon and logoff scripts. Doubleclick on
Logoff and then add, and browse to your script or batch file.
I think this should then run when you logoff.
snip
Hope this helps.
UNQUOTE

Then I should only need the first three lines of the code Mike
supplied to delete the fntcache.dat at logoff forcing Windows to
create a fresh one at next boot.
The script would be saved to
C:\Windows\System32\GroupPolicy\User\Scripts\Logoff\ folder

I am going to try this. I'' let you know if this is not working.

Bodvar

On Mon, Dec 3, 2007 at 5:34 PM, Mike Wickham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  By the way, Framers: it would be nice if I could use some script or .bat
   file to delete my font cache on Windows shutdown automatically. Any ideas
   for this?

  Create a batch file containing the following lines:

  @echo off
  REM Delete fntcache.dat
  del c:\windows\system32\fntcache.dat
  REM  Restart Windows in two seconds
  C:\WINDOWS\system32\shutdown.exe -r -t 02



  Mike Wickham




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ANN: FrameScript Training in San Jose Area

[Rick Quatro]

Hello Framers,

I will be conducting a private FrameScript class in San Jose, CA on March 
24, 25. If you have interest in a class at your location later that week, 
please contact me offlist right away. Thank you very much.

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DTDs

[Joel Wilhelm]

Is it possible to find DTDs such as:

amm.dtd
cmm.dtd
sup.dtd

for free somewhere? Are they open source and out there online, or do I
need to pay to get them?

JW
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re: Page count in a large book

[Susan_Corcoran]

Hi Les,

There's a great little tool called BookInfo by Bruce Foster that does just 
this.  It also gives you a word count (helpful when going for localization 
quotes).

Susan A. Corcoran
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Honeywell Imaging and Mobility
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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:01:59 -0500
From: Harold Winberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Page count in a large book
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Hello Framers

 

Does anyone know a simple way to just count the number of pages in a
large book (or any book)?

 

All we really need at this point is to count the number of pages for
organizational purposes.

 

Thanks

 

Les Winberg



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RE: help needed with cleanfm batch file

[Eason, David]

I delete unwanted files by running a search and deleting the found
files.

 

1.Press Start  Search  For Files or Folders  All files and
folders  All or part of the file name.

2.Type *.backup.* in the text box.

3.Press Search.

 

After finding all the files, highlight and delete them. That way, you
find and delete them all, regardless of location. Repeat the procedure
for each type of file to delete.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

David Eason

LSI Corporation

Contract Technical Writer

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Phone: 303-544-5433

Cell: 303-941-3512

 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:35 AM
To: INTERNET:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: help needed with cleanfm batch file

 

Dave,

 

I don't have the batch file, but you can delete unwanted files as
follows:

 

1. Open a command prompt by choosing Start  Run, type cmd.exe, and
click

OK.

2. In the command prompt, go to the directory you want to clean up using

the cd command.

3. To delete backup  and lock files, execute the commands:

 

 del *.backup.*

 del *.lck

 

You can put these in a batch file and run that, too.

 

Regards,

Bruce

 

 

 

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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:57:15 +1300

From: Dave Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: help needed with cleanfm batch file

To: FrameUsers List framers@lists.frameusers.com

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Content-Type: text/plain;   format=flowed;  charset=ISO-8859-1

 

Hi Folks

 

A month or 3 ago someone posted a batch file to clean up Frame's backup 

and lock files from a folder.  I kept a copy of the batch file code, but


now that I want to use it, I can't find the instructions on how to use 

it.  My manual has expanded and now it is becoming tedious to manually 

delete all those .backup files.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Cheers

 

Dave

 

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RE: style following inset

[O'Laoghaire Micheal]

Put a tiny empty paragraph at the very beginning of the file/document
that  you are 'insetting'

Regards,
Micheal O'Laoghaire
CBS Documentation
Comverse Inc.
Cambridge, MA.

Tel: (617) 273-5414

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Subject: style following inset

I'm working with an unstructured document set that uses text insets.
When
insets are imported into the target document, the empty paragraph tag
following the inset automatically becomes a repeat of the first style in
the previous inset. So, if the inset starts with a numbered list, the
next
empty paragraph tag in the document becomes a number list too.

I know this will go away when and if the documents are structured but
that
is not an option right now. Can anyone recommend best practices for
handling unstructured insets and/or specifically how to resolve this
unwelcome problem. I seem to recall a fix but I haven't been faced with
this problem for a long time.

Any help is truly appreciated!


Mollye Barrett
ClearPath, LLC
414-331-1378
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Ann: Web site with free scripts now on line

[martin . smith]

Hi Framers,

A couple of weeks ago on this list I mentioned that I had developed a  
freely available script (written in FrameScript) that gathers together  
imported graphics and copies them into a dedicated graphics directory  
while updating the links. The same script can also be used to copy a  
chapter and all of its graphics into another project.

This script, and another freely available script for editing and  
organizing index terms in structured and unstructured FrameMaker  
documents and books, are now freely available for download at the  
following web site:
http://www.golehtek.com

Best regards,

Martin R. Smith

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Book page count

[Harold Winberg]

I have encountered a strange problem

 

We are finishing a large book and we aren't ready to generate a TOC yet.

 

I have been getting an initial page count of each chapter in the book by
clicking the chapter and getting the number of pages without opening up
the chapter by looking at the bottom left of the screen. 

 

The number of pages in the clicked chapter file of the book appears at
the bottom left of the screen.

 

I spent hours getting a count for each of about 400+ chapters and then
noticed that when you open a chapter, the number of pages doesn't always
match. 

 

Does anyone know why this happens? What can it affect?

 

Les Winberg

 

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Re: Scripting pulling FM files from version control and, creating PDFs

[Fred Wersan]

Shmuel asked about Macro Express and AutoIt. I've used Macro Express for 
many years and AutoIt for the past 2-3. For simple, quick macros, Macro 
Express is great. Well worth the $40.

For more involved scripting, ME gets really clumsy to write and 
maintain. AutoIt is much better for complex scripting. I use it to write 
a lot of little utilities. Then I use the GUI capability to create small 
button bars to quickly access the utilities.

All that said, Framescript will handle FamreMaker tasks much more 
efficiently and quickly than any generic scripting or macro program. The 
downside is that you have to learn to program in FrameScript (drives me 
crazy). Or you can contract out the work.

Fred
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RE: style following inset

[Halleman, Joseph (Joseph)]

Mollye,
Try the following:
In the text inset, insert empty paragraph above the text.
Create the paragraph tag with a small font size (2pt), 0 spacing above
and below, and import tag into the book files.
Insert the text inset into the book file at an empty paragraph below the
previous paragraph.
The empty paragraph takes on the format of that first empty paragraph in
the text inset.
Regards,
Joe

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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:03:32 -0600 (CST)
From: Mollye Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: style following inset
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

I'm working with an unstructured document set that uses text insets.
When
insets are imported into the target document, the empty paragraph tag
following the inset automatically becomes a repeat of the first style in
the previous inset. So, if the inset starts with a numbered list, the
next
empty paragraph tag in the document becomes a number list too.

I know this will go away when and if the documents are structured but
that
is not an option right now. Can anyone recommend best practices for
handling unstructured insets and/or specifically how to resolve this
unwelcome problem. I seem to recall a fix but I haven't been faced with
this problem for a long time.

Any help is truly appreciated!


Mollye Barrett
ClearPath, LLC
414-331-1378


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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:07:34 -0700
From: Grant Hogarth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: SYSTEC  Toolbox  Deleting unused conditions throughout a
book
To: Linda G. Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED],
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My apologies --- it would appear that you are correct, and that I
misrepresented the product.

*sigh*

It works so well for all the other entities, I did not think to confirm
that it handled conditions. It appears that the version for FM8 *does*
handle conditions, but I can't swear to it.

My bad as the expression goes.

Grant

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From: Linda G. Gallagher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:56 AM
To: Grant Hogarth; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Deleting unused conditions throughout a book

Hmm. It doesn't say that it handles conditions on the sit, and a copy I
have
for FM 7.0 does not. I did try to order it. I keep going around in
circles,
though, in the ordering process and just sent an email to their customer
support. 

Does it really handle conditions? 


~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
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From: Grant Hogarth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:22 AM
To: Linda G. Gallagher; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Deleting unused conditions throughout a book

Toolbox from SYSTEC SystemHaus will do that  --- and much more.
(I've no association with them other than as a very satisfied customer)
www.systec-gmbh.com/toolbox

Grant

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Gallagher
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 7:20 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Deleting unused conditions throughout a book

Framers,

I'm just full of questions this week.

I found Pgf Whopper, which lets me find and delete unused conditions on
a
file basis, but I'd like to know if there's a way to find and delete
them
throughout an entire book. My client has about 20 books and tons of
conditions, many seemingly unused.

The system I'm working on doesn't have FrameScript, so it's not an
option
right now, but might be in the future.

Thanks again!

~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
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Keeping a frame with the next paragraph

[Kwiatkowski Richard (ST-VS/DOC-La)]

Hello Framers,

A questions was raised during a meeting abuot how to force a frame to
stay with the next paragraph. For example, we have an anchored frame
that contains an image. The next paragraph is an achor placeholder for a
table that contains a legend for the image. The question is: Is there a
way within FrameMaker (7.2 or 8) to ensure that the frame and the legend
are always on the same page? We tried Keep with Next and Keep with
Previous with no success.

Thanks for any advice.

Rich Kwiatkowski
Senior Technical Writer
Bosch Security Systems
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Re: DTDs

[Joel Wilhelm]

It's the ATA iSpec 2200.

JW

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 You can't just search for or get a DTD file with those names. I cold
 whip up something that is a valid DTD and give it any of those names,
 but it doesn't mean that your document will be valid. What is the DTD or
 standard you are trying to work with. If this is SGML, you might be able
 to find a public identifier at the top of the file which is the better
 indication of what you really need.

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  Subject: DTDs
 
  Is it possible to find DTDs such as:
 
  amm.dtd
  cmm.dtd
  sup.dtd
 
  for free somewhere? Are they open source and out there
  online, or do I
  need to pay to get them?
 
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RE: help needed with cleanfm batch file

[Syed.Hosain]

Using a DOS Command Prompt window ... at the top of the directory tree
with all the FrameMaker documents (or at the root of the drive, if you
really want to do that ... carefully!):

1. First I verify which files are going to get deleted:

dir  *.backup.*  *.lck /s

I check the dir listing result, and once I am sure that only the files
that I want deleted, will get deleted, I do:

del  *.backup.*  *.lck /s

And they are gone! :) The /s searches subdirectories below the current
working directory ...

For safety, I use two DOS command prompt batch files ... so I do not
have to worry about typo's in what I type. For example, my batch file
(called dback.bat) for the deletion has a single line in it:

del  *.backup.*  *.lck  %1%  %2%  %3%  %4%  %5%  %6%  %7%  %8%
%9%

in it. Then I can add *more* files for deletion (like *.lck or
*.tpdf or *.ps ... always with care!) and can also add /s to get a
recursive deletion through the directory tree just by saying any of the
following:

dback
dback  /s
dback  *.tpdf
dback  *.tpdf  *.ps
dback  *.tpdf  *.ps  /s

and they all work fine for me.

Z

Dave Reynolds wrote:
 Hi Folks
 
 A month or 3 ago someone posted a batch file to clean up Frame's
backup
 and lock files from a folder.  I kept a copy of the batch file code,
but
 now that I want to use it, I can't find the instructions on how to use
 it.  My manual has expanded and now it is becoming tedious to manually
 delete all those .backup files.
 
 Any help would be appreciated.
 
 Cheers
 
 Dave
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RE: Book page count

[Fred Ridder]

Les Winberg wrote
 I have been getting an initial page count of each chapter in the book by
 clicking the chapter and getting the number of pages without opening up
 the chapter by looking at the bottom left of the screen. 

 The number of pages in the clicked chapter file of the book appears at
 the bottom left of the screen.
 
 I spent hours getting a count for each of about 400+ chapters and then
 noticed that when you open a chapter, the number of pages doesn't always
 match. 
 
 Does anyone know why this happens? What can it affect?
 
It's perfectly logical, actually. The page numbers and page counts shown in
the book window represent the values that were collected in the book file
during the last Update Book operation. If you edit any of the component 
files after doing an Update Book such that the chapter's page count 
changes, the book file will not know what the new count or page numbering
are until you do another Update Book. If FrameMaker has reason to believe
that the count/numbering is not up to date, it usually displays an asterisk
(analogous to a format override indicatrion), but this is not foolproof. The 
only time you can be certain the book file contains accurate page counts
is right after you've instructed it to scan all the component files by 
performing an Update Book.
 
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RE: Word to Frame

[Fred Ridder]

Responding to Gillian Flato, Mike Feimster wrote:
 What I've done in the past is use word macros to make the para styles in
 Word match the Frame styles, then import the word docs into Frame.
 
 
That's exactly the same approach I used in converting ~10k pages of Word
docs (50 docs) into FrameMaker at a previous employer. 
 
Just to amplify on a few points, though:
 
You really want to use FileImportFile (Copy Into Document) to pull the 
Word content into a pre-formatted FrameMaker template rather than 
directly opening the Word file from the FrameMaker File menu. Besides 
the fact that the import filter somehow seems more robust in that mode, 
you also have the opportunity to leave behind most of Word-specific 
formatting junk by choosing the Reformat Using Current Document's 
Formatting option in the Import Text Flow by Copy dialog.
 
In the same macro that you use to rename the Word paragraph styles,
you should also redefine any styles that use bullets or numbering to
remove them. If bullets or autonumbers are present in the Word file,
FrameMaker does its best to preserve them and you'll get garbage 
characters in the converted file.
 
Other useful operations in prepping the Word file are to remove any
TOC, LOT, LOF, and index (since FrameMaker handles them completely 
differently), strip any headers and footers (these will be defined in 
your FrameMaker template) and remove any section breaks (meaningless
in Frame). In my own process, I also removed all graphics from the 
Word file because they really slowed the conversion down and I knew
we were going to replace the pasted-in images with anchored frames 
and referenced graphics post-conversion.
 
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RE: Word to Frame

[Mike Feimster]

Gillian,

What I've done in the past is use word macros to make the para styles in
Word match the Frame styles, then import the word docs into Frame.

Mike 

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Is there a way to convert a Word doc to a Frame doc and map the styles
prior to conversion so that I don't have the tedium of formatting the
Frame file?
 

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Re: Keeping a frame with the next paragraph

[Stuart Rogers]

Kwiatkowski Richard (ST-VS/DOC-La) wrote:
 Hello Framers,
 
 A questions was raised during a meeting abuot how to force a frame to
 stay with the next paragraph. For example, we have an anchored frame
 that contains an image. The next paragraph is an achor placeholder for a
 table that contains a legend for the image. The question is: Is there a
 way within FrameMaker (7.2 or 8) to ensure that the frame and the legend
 are always on the same page? We tried Keep with Next and Keep with
 Previous with no success.
 
 Thanks for any advice.

Richard,

There are a couple of approaches you can use.  Since you're already 
inserting a table for the legend, you could simply add a row at the top 
of the table and put the image there, setting the table orphan rows to a 
suitably high number to keep the rows together.

My own preferred method is to dedicate a pgf to each image and put only 
the anchored frames (At Insertion Point) in those pgfs.  The tag for the 
dedicated pgf is defined to Keep With Next Pgf, and the Next Pgf Tag is 
my legend pgf.  This approach also gives me control over Space Above the 
image, indentation, etc.

HTH,

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Re: Keeping a frame with the next paragraph

[Mike Wickham]

The method I use for graphics with captions is to create a one-cell table 
with title. Put the graphic in the cell and the caption in the title. 
They'll always stay together. The title (caption) can be set for above or 
below. I think it looks better below, but if your intention is to create a 
document with hyperlinks to the captions, it may be better to put them above 
the graphic. This is because the hyperlink jump will position the title 
(caption) paragraph at the top of the screen, and the associated picture 
would be above it, off screen.

Mike Wickham


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RE: Word to Frame

[Fred Ridder]

I always found it beneficial to leave behind as much of the Word
formatting as possible, and the best way to do that is to make the
Word style names match the FrameMaker tag names so that you
bring in only the tag name in addition to the content.   From: [EMAIL 
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Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:25:44 -0800 Subject: RE: Word to Frame  Hi all, 
Wouldn't it be just as easy to use Silicon Prairie Software's Paragraph Tools 
as it is to create that macro?  ~Jennifer  -Original Message- 
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Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:20 PM To: Mike Feimster; Flato, Gillian; 
Framers List Subject: RE: Word to Frame   Responding to Gillian Flato, Mike 
Feimster wrote:  What I've done in the past is use word macros to make the 
para styles  in Word match the Frame styles, then import the word docs into 
Frame.   That's exactly the same approach I used in converting ~10k pages of 
Word docs (50 docs) into FrameMaker at a previous employer.  Just to amplify 
on a few points, though:  You really want to use FileImportFile (Copy Into 
Document) to pull the Word content into a pre-formatted FrameMaker template 
rather than directly opening the Word file from the FrameMaker File menu. 
Besides the fact that the import filter somehow seems more robust in that mode, 
you also have the opportunity to leave behind most of Word-specific formatting 
junk by choosing the Reformat Using Current Document's Formatting option in 
the Import Text Flow by Copy dialog.  In the same macro that you use to 
rename the Word paragraph styles, you should also redefine any styles that use 
bullets or numbering to remove them. If bullets or autonumbers are present in 
the Word file, FrameMaker does its best to preserve them and you'll get garbage 
characters in the converted file.  Other useful operations in prepping the 
Word file are to remove any TOC, LOT, LOF, and index (since FrameMaker handles 
them completely differently), strip any headers and footers (these will be 
defined in your FrameMaker template) and remove any section breaks (meaningless 
in Frame). In my own process, I also removed all graphics from the Word file 
because they really slowed the conversion down and I knew we were going to 
replace the pasted-in images with anchored frames and referenced graphics 
post-conversion.  -Fred Ridder 
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hey y'all

[Deirdre Reagan]

Have a good weekend everyone!

Thanks for all your helpful advice this week.  I've been learning in
leaps and bounds, so I really appreciate everyone's ideas and words of
encouragement.

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RE: Word to Frame

[Jennifer Randel]

Hi all,
Wouldn't it be just as easy to use Silicon Prairie Software's Paragraph Tools 
as it is to create that macro?

~Jennifer

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Responding to Gillian Flato, Mike Feimster wrote:
 What I've done in the past is use word macros to make the para styles
 in Word match the Frame styles, then import the word docs into Frame.


That's exactly the same approach I used in converting ~10k pages of Word docs 
(50 docs) into FrameMaker at a previous employer.

Just to amplify on a few points, though:

You really want to use FileImportFile (Copy Into Document) to pull the Word 
content into a pre-formatted FrameMaker template rather than directly opening 
the Word file from the FrameMaker File menu. Besides the fact that the import 
filter somehow seems more robust in that mode, you also have the opportunity to 
leave behind most of Word-specific formatting junk by choosing the Reformat 
Using Current Document's Formatting option in the Import Text Flow by Copy 
dialog.

In the same macro that you use to rename the Word paragraph styles, you should 
also redefine any styles that use bullets or numbering to remove them. If 
bullets or autonumbers are present in the Word file, FrameMaker does its best 
to preserve them and you'll get garbage characters in the converted file.

Other useful operations in prepping the Word file are to remove any TOC, LOT, 
LOF, and index (since FrameMaker handles them completely differently), strip 
any headers and footers (these will be defined in your FrameMaker template) and 
remove any section breaks (meaningless in Frame). In my own process, I also 
removed all graphics from the Word file because they really slowed the 
conversion down and I knew we were going to replace the pasted-in images with 
anchored frames and referenced graphics post-conversion.

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Cross references not converting to PDF hyperlinks

[Doug]

Hi-

I have a document that I've added a number of cross references to.  I've
noticed that while the cross references work properly within FrameMaker,
clicking the hyperlink in the resulting PDF file does nothing:  many
hyperlinks are broken.

Upon further testing, I think the problem might be that I've changed the
destination paragraph tag after I created the cross reference.  In other
words, when I originally created the cross reference, the paragraph tag was
H1.  The cross-reference marker text is 12345_H1:MyParaText.  I've kept
that marker there, but changed the paragraph tag, say to H2.  When I
eliminated the cross-reference marker and added a new one, such that the
marker text is 56789_H2:MyParaText, the hyperlink does work in the
resulting PDF file.

Is this indeed the source of the problem?  Has anyone ever had this problem
before?  I've had mismatched paragraph tags and marker text before without
any problem, so this is surprising.  I didn't know if it might be related to
the number of cross references.  Is there a limit?

This is a major problem for me.  I've painstakingly added numerous cross
references to make my Help system (and PDF files) more usable.  Hopefully,
WebWorks will still produce the links properly, but I'm not sure that I want
to keep these faulty links in the PDF files.  However, removing and
reinserting markers for the paragraphs that changed tags would be ominous.
Worse, I now think that I can never change paragraph tags for a paragraph
that contains a cross-reference marker.  That would be a nasty limitation,
one that makes cross references less useful.

I'm using Frame 7.2p158 unstructured and Adobe Acrobat Distiller 8.1.2.
Could this possibly be a problem with incompatibilities between Frame
7.xand Distiller
8.x?

Thanks for any insights.

Doug
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Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs

[Peter Ring]

First, in case Dov or someone else from Adobe doesn't step in here, 
please observe that there is a legal limit to how you can use current 
FrameMaker versions unattended without a server license 
(http://www.adobe.com/products/fmserver/).
   As far as I can tell, the "Adobe? FrameMaker? Server 8 software 
extends the power of Adobe FrameMaker 8 software" only in terms of the 
license and the price tag; ie., technically it is no different from the 
desktop edition.
   Anyway, a completely automated pagination service would probably 
require the server license.

I have not tried using DZBatcher with FrameMaker 8 yet. I'd love to hear 
about it :)
   Don't know about Vista either. We avoid it like the plague for now. 
DZBatcher is OK with Windows XP.

Is it easy to use? Well, it does what it is supposed to do, which isn't 
much compared to more complete FrameMaker scripting environments like 
FrameScript. DZBatcher controls a few important FrameMaker functions, 
and is meant to be invoked from a shell script. Use your preferred 
scripting language to do the checkout, write the DZBatcher scripts, and 
invoke DZBatcher.
   DZBatcher, being a command line tool, can read commands piped in from 
stdin (and write to stdout). But pipes doesn't work all that well on 
Windows, so I have DZBatcher read the commands from a file.
   I tend to drive the process from a Makefile. Your in-house developer 
knows about 'make' . If she 
doesn't, then please ask me for more information.

There are a few alternatives somewhat similar in scope to DZBatcher.

- The 'runfm' command from Omsys Mif2Go
http://www.omsys.com/dcl/xhtml/runfm.htm

See for example
http://www.omsys.com/dcl/xhtml/runfm_0016_3433runningasinglemif2goconversionorprintjob.htm

Download the demo version of Mif2Go to try out 'runfm'
http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

- CudSpan DoBatch, available from Leximation
http://www.leximation.com/toolsearch/?dev=CUD

DoBatch expects you to open a batch script file interactively.


Kind regards
Peter Ring


Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
> It says on the page you provided below:
> 
> DZbatcher is currently available for Windows NT 4.0, Windows 2000, Sun 
> Solaris 2.6 and AIX, and FrameMaker or FrameMaker+SGML (versions 5.5.6 
> or above), must be installed on your host system.
> 
> What about Windows XP and Vista? Are they supported?
> Also, is it easy to use?
> 
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> 
> 
> 
> Peter Ring wrote:
>> DZBatcher,
>>
>>http://www.datazone.com/dzbatcher2.html
>>
>> is your friend.
>>
>> kind regards
>> Peter Ring
>>
>> Linda G. Gallagher wrote:
>>  
>>> Framers,
>>>
>>> A client would like to be able to have a script that runs nightly 
>>> that will
>>> do the following:
>>>
>>> - Pull FM files and books from their version control system (PVCS)
>>>
>>> - Maybe set conditions (not sure if this is needed yet)
>>>
>>> - Update the books
>>>
>>> - Create PDFs of books and some stand-alone files
>>>
>>> - Put the resulting PDFs in a specific place for the nightly build
>>>
>>> It seems like fmbatch can do this, but I think it only works with FM for
>>> Unix (they have FM for Win).
>>> Can any of the other FDK tools do this? (An in-house developer will 
>>> likely
>>> write the script.)
>>>
>>> What about FrameScript?
>>>
>>> What tool is best?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help!
>>>
>>> ~
>>> Linda G. Gallagher
>>> TechCom Plus, LLC
>>> lindag at techcomplus dot com
>>> www.techcomplus.com
>>> 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
>>> User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
>>> WebWorks ePublisher templates
>>> 
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FrameMaker 8 won't import SVG graphics correctly

[Hedley Finger]

Ursula:

At Friday, 22/02/2008, 02:29 AM;, you wrote:
>Hi, Headley

Hedley

>I didn't see a reply to your very interesting question on the 
>list... [FrameMaker 8 won't import SVG graphics correctly] ... did 
>you get any useful feedback privately?

An Adobe employee emailed me that this was a bug dating back to FM 
7.0.  The Inkscape-created graphic displays correctly in a number of 
SVG viewers, so it is definitely a FM problem.

I am beginning to think that grouped objects in SVG have a 
transparent fill and FM has never been able to handle transparency 
but translates it to white.  (Since FM 3.0; how about fixing it, 
Adobe?)  I will test whether it can be "fixed" by changing stacking 
order or using layers.  Also, it may render correctly to PDF as I 
believe Acrobat references the original SVG, not the pixmap or 
FrameImage conversion in FM.  Come to think of it, I specified that 
all graphics are to include a FrameImage facet, so perhaps switching 
that off might be a solution.  Watch this space for results of tests ...

>We've not moved to FM/DITA
>yet, ... but the lack of support for FM
>callouts would be unhappy if there is a problem with text in embedded
>graphics.

The nice part about SVG is that you can embed or reference PNG for 
screen captures and then add leader lines and callout text which is 
editable.  As it is XML itself, it can be imported into other XML 
editors and tools.  Since FM DITA does not allow compound graphics 
(e.g. an anchored frame containing two or three pixmaps, some text, 
and drawn lines and shapes), SVG seemed like a good way to go as you 
can double-click on the graphic and up comes Inkscape (or Sketsa, or 
Illustrator, etc.) to edit and save.

>Perhaps too simplistic, but what about embedding as a PNG rather than an
>SVG?

Inkscape (Sketsa, etc) saves to PNG so this is doable, just not as convenient.

>Or using another program other than Inkscape to add the callouts?

Illustrator, perhaps.

>Finally, though less optimally, what about handling it all in a bitmap
>format with the original text/callouts created at the correct size?

No way; what if you have to edit the text?

Regards,
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SOLUTION -- PERHAPS [was "RE: FrameMaker 8 won't import SVG graphics correctly"]

[Hedley Finger]

All:

Original SVG from Inkscape consists of a screen capture to PNG plus 
some thin lines and some TrueType text.

@   Direct import of *.svg by FrameMaker = strange
 white rectangles partially obscuring part of graphic.
 Thickness of hair lines varies.
 Appears to embed graphic as JPEG, thus introducing
 all the usual edge contrast distortions.  FrameMaker
 document doesn't print to PDF via Adobe PDF virtual
 printer all that well.

@   Print to PDF from Inkscape via Adobe PDF produces a
 result similar to the above. When PFD imported into FM,
 JPEG distortion carried through to PDF printed with Adobe PDF
 from FrameMaker.

@   Save to PDF from Inkscape seems to encapsulate pixmap
 as PNG with NO artifacts.  When PDF imported into FM,
 quality of pixmap excellent, hairlines slightly thickened but
 all of even thickness, and type appears slightly bolder on
 screen.  When FM doc printed to PDF via Adobe PDF,
 resultant pixmpap + hairlines + type looks best of all.
 Type appears as its correct weight, so the thickening of
 type in FM is perhaps due to it being converted to a pixmap
 or FrameImage for display.

Recommendation:  When producing combination graphics in Inkscape 
consisting of embedded or referenced pixmaps, SVG vector objects, and 
text, save to PDF from Inkscape.  Then import the PDF as a graphic 
into FrameMaker.  This overcomes the prohibition against FM type 
combination graphics being included in XML files.  You might get a 
better result if the TrueType or PS fonts are converted to vector 
paths as this automatically "embeds" the "font" vector objects into 
the graphic.

Note:  Inkscape does not yet support SVG fonts but none of the 
editors do at this stage, so converting PS or TrueType to SVG  fonts 
not an option at this stage.  The Java-based collection of SVG tools 
called Batik can convert fonts to SVG fonts but what then if editors 
can't use them.  Handy for programmers, I suppose, creating forms and 
notices programmatically.

Happy lathering, customers!

Regards,
Hedley





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Shutdown

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

I talked to my IP Director and he advised me to google for info on
logoff scripts. I came up with this for Win XP:

QUOTE:
If you go to start > run, type gpedit.msc
This should open the local group policy.
Under the User Configuration > Window Settings > Scripts(Logon/Logoff).
There are key/values for logon and logoff scripts. Doubleclick on
Logoff and then add, and browse to your script or batch file.
I think this should then run when you logoff.

Hope this helps.
UNQUOTE

Then I should only need the first three lines of the code Mike
supplied to delete the fntcache.dat at logoff forcing Windows to
create a fresh one at next boot.
The script would be saved to
C:\Windows\System32\GroupPolicy\User\Scripts\Logoff\ folder

I am going to try this. I'' let you know if this is not working.

Bodvar

On Mon, Dec 3, 2007 at 5:34 PM, Mike Wickham  
wrote:
> > By the way, Framers: it would be nice if I could use some script or ".bat"
>  > file to delete my font cache on Windows shutdown automatically. Any ideas
>  > for this?
>
>  Create a batch file containing the following lines:
>
>  @echo off
>  REM Delete fntcache.dat
>  del c:\windows\system32\fntcache.dat
>  REM  Restart Windows in two seconds
>  C:\WINDOWS\system32\shutdown.exe -r -t 02
>
>
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ANN: FrameScript Training in San Jose Area

[Rick Quatro]

Hello Framers,

I will be conducting a private FrameScript class in San Jose, CA on March 
24, 25. If you have interest in a class at your location later that week, 
please contact me offlist right away. Thank you very much.

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585-659-8267
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DTDs

[Joel Wilhelm]

Is it possible to find DTDs such as:

amm.dtd
cmm.dtd
sup.dtd

for free somewhere? Are they "open source" and out there online, or do I
need to pay to get them?

JW

Word to Frame

[Flato, Gillian]

Is there a way to convert a Word doc to a Frame doc and map the styles
prior to conversion so that I don't have the tedium of formatting the
Frame file?


Thank you,



 

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

nanometrics

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Milpitas, CA. 95035

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Scripting pulling FM files from version control and, creating PDFs

[Fred Wersan]

Shmuel asked about Macro Express and AutoIt. I've used Macro Express for 
many years and AutoIt for the past 2-3. For simple, quick macros, Macro 
Express is great. Well worth the $40.

For more involved scripting, ME gets really clumsy to write and 
maintain. AutoIt is much better for complex scripting. I use it to write 
a lot of little utilities. Then I use the GUI capability to create small 
button bars to quickly access the utilities.

All that said, Framescript will handle FamreMaker tasks much more 
efficiently and quickly than any generic scripting or macro program. The 
downside is that you have to learn to program in FrameScript (drives me 
crazy). Or you can contract out the work.

Fred
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MAK Technologies
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Cambridge, MA 02138
617-876-8085

style following inset

[Halleman, Joseph (Joseph)]

Mollye,
Try the following:
In the text inset, insert empty paragraph above the text.
Create the paragraph tag with a small font size (2pt), 0 spacing above
and below, and import tag into the book files.
Insert the text inset into the book file at an empty paragraph below the
previous paragraph.
The empty paragraph takes on the format of that first empty paragraph in
the text inset.
Regards,
Joe

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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:03:32 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mollye Barrett" 
Subject: style following inset
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID: <36631.67.52.221.170.1203609812.squirrel at www.itobin.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

I'm working with an unstructured document set that uses text insets.
When
insets are imported into the target document, the empty paragraph tag
following the inset automatically becomes a repeat of the first style in
the previous inset. So, if the inset starts with a numbered list, the
next
empty paragraph tag in the document becomes a number list too.

I know this will go away when and if the documents are structured but
that
is not an option right now. Can anyone recommend best practices for
handling unstructured insets and/or specifically how to resolve this
unwelcome problem. I seem to recall a fix but I haven't been faced with
this problem for a long time.

Any help is truly appreciated!


Mollye Barrett
ClearPath, LLC
414-331-1378


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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:07:34 -0700
From: "Grant Hogarth" 
Subject: RE: SYSTEC  Toolbox & Deleting unused conditions throughout a
book
To: "Linda G. Gallagher" ,

Message-ID:


Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"

My apologies --- it would appear that you are correct, and that I
misrepresented the product.

*sigh*

It works so well for all the other entities, I did not think to confirm
that it handled conditions. It appears that the version for FM8 *does*
handle conditions, but I can't swear to it.

"My bad" as the expression goes.

Grant

-Original Message-
From: Linda G. Gallagher [mailto:lin...@techcomplus.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:56 AM
To: Grant Hogarth; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Deleting unused conditions throughout a book

Hmm. It doesn't say that it handles conditions on the sit, and a copy I
have
for FM 7.0 does not. I did try to order it. I keep going around in
circles,
though, in the ordering process and just sent an email to their customer
support. 

Does it really handle conditions? 


~
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From: Grant Hogarth [mailto:grant.hoga...@reuters.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:22 AM
To: Linda G. Gallagher; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Deleting unused conditions throughout a book

Toolbox from SYSTEC SystemHaus will do that  --- and much more.
(I've no association with them other than as a very satisfied customer)
www.systec-gmbh.com/toolbox

Grant

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Linda G.
Gallagher
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 7:20 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Deleting unused conditions throughout a book

Framers,

I'm just full of questions this week.

I found Pgf Whopper, which lets me find and delete unused conditions on
a
file basis, but I'd like to know if there's a way to find and delete
them
throughout an entire book. My client has about 20 books and tons of
conditions, many seemingly unused.

The system I'm working on doesn't have FrameScript, so it's not an
option
right now, but might be in the future.

Thanks again!

~
Linda G. Gallagher
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Keeping a frame with the next paragraph

[Kwiatkowski Richard (ST-VS/DOC-La)]

Hello Framers,

A questions was raised during a meeting abuot how to force a frame to
stay with the next paragraph. For example, we have an anchored frame
that contains an image. The next paragraph is an achor placeholder for a
table that contains a legend for the image. The question is: Is there a
way within FrameMaker (7.2 or 8) to ensure that the frame and the legend
are always on the same page? We tried Keep with Next and Keep with
Previous with no success.

Thanks for any advice.

Rich Kwiatkowski
Senior Technical Writer
Bosch Security Systems

DTDs

[Dan Vint]

You can't just search for or get a DTD file with those names. I cold
whip up something that is a valid DTD and give it any of those names,
but it doesn't mean that your document will be valid. What is the DTD or
standard you are trying to work with. If this is SGML, you might be able
to find a public identifier at the top of the file which is the better
indication of what you really need.

..dan

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> 
> amm.dtd
> cmm.dtd
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> 
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DTDs

[Joel Wilhelm]

It's the ATA iSpec 2200.

JW

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Dan Vint  wrote:

> You can't just search for or get a DTD file with those names. I cold
> whip up something that is a valid DTD and give it any of those names,
> but it doesn't mean that your document will be valid. What is the DTD or
> standard you are trying to work with. If this is SGML, you might be able
> to find a public identifier at the top of the file which is the better
> indication of what you really need.
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help needed with cleanfm batch file

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

Using a DOS Command Prompt window ... at the top of the directory tree
with all the FrameMaker documents (or at the root of the drive, if you
really want to do that ... carefully!):

1. First I verify which files are going to get deleted:

dir  *.backup.*  *.lck /s

I check the dir listing result, and once I am sure that only the files
that I want deleted, will get deleted, I do:

del  *.backup.*  *.lck /s

And they are gone! :) The "/s" searches subdirectories below the current
working directory ...

For safety, I use two DOS command prompt batch files ... so I do not
have to worry about typo's in what I type. For example, my batch file
(called "dback.bat") for the deletion has a single line in it:

del  *.backup.*  *.lck  %1%  %2%  %3%  %4%  %5%  %6%  %7%  %8%
%9%

in it. Then I can add *more* files for deletion (like "*.lck" or
"*.tpdf" or "*.ps" ... always with care!) and can also add "/s" to get a
recursive deletion through the directory tree just by saying any of the
following:

dback
dback  /s
dback  *.tpdf
dback  *.tpdf  *.ps
dback  *.tpdf  *.ps  /s

and they all work fine for me.

Z

Dave Reynolds wrote:
> Hi Folks
> 
> A month or 3 ago someone posted a batch file to clean up Frame's
backup
> and lock files from a folder.  I kept a copy of the batch file code,
but
> now that I want to use it, I can't find the instructions on how to use
> it.  My manual has expanded and now it is becoming tedious to manually
> delete all those .backup files.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Dave

Word to Frame

[Mike Feimster]

Gillian,

What I've done in the past is use word macros to make the para styles in
Word match the Frame styles, then import the word docs into Frame.

Mike 

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Gillian
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:40 PM
To: Framers List
Subject: Word to Frame

Is there a way to convert a Word doc to a Frame doc and map the styles
prior to conversion so that I don't have the tedium of formatting the
Frame file?


Thank you,



 

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Book page count

[Fred Ridder]

Les Winberg wrote
> I have been getting an initial page count of each chapter in the book by
> clicking the chapter and getting the number of pages without opening up
> the chapter by looking at the bottom left of the screen. 
>
> The number of pages in the clicked chapter file of the book appears at
> the bottom left of the screen.
> 
> I spent hours getting a count for each of about 400+ chapters and then
> noticed that when you open a chapter, the number of pages doesn't always
> match. 
> 
> Does anyone know why this happens? What can it affect?

It's perfectly logical, actually. The page numbers and page counts shown in
the book window represent the values that were collected in the book file
during the last Update Book operation. If you edit any of the component 
files after doing an Update Book such that the chapter's page count 
changes, the book file will not know what the new count or page numbering
are until you do another Update Book. If FrameMaker has reason to believe
that the count/numbering is not up to date, it usually displays an asterisk
(analogous to a format override indicatrion), but this is not foolproof. The 
only time you can be certain the book file contains accurate page counts
is right after you've instructed it to scan all the component files by 
performing an Update Book.

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Word to Frame

[Fred Ridder]

Responding to Gillian Flato, Mike Feimster wrote:
> What I've done in the past is use word macros to make the para styles in
> Word match the Frame styles, then import the word docs into Frame.


That's exactly the same approach I used in converting ~10k pages of Word
docs (>50 docs) into FrameMaker at a previous employer. 

Just to amplify on a few points, though:

You really want to use File>Import>File (Copy Into Document) to pull the 
Word content into a pre-formatted FrameMaker template rather than 
directly opening the Word file from the FrameMaker File menu. Besides 
the fact that the import filter somehow seems more robust in that mode, 
you also have the opportunity to leave behind most of Word-specific 
formatting junk by choosing the "Reformat Using Current Document's 
Formatting" option in the Import Text Flow by Copy dialog.

In the same macro that you use to rename the Word paragraph styles,
you should also redefine any styles that use bullets or numbering to
remove them. If bullets or autonumbers are present in the Word file,
FrameMaker does its best to preserve them and you'll get garbage 
characters in the converted file.

Other useful operations in prepping the Word file are to remove any
TOC, LOT, LOF, and index (since FrameMaker handles them completely 
differently), strip any headers and footers (these will be defined in 
your FrameMaker template) and remove any section breaks (meaningless
in Frame). In my own process, I also removed all graphics from the 
Word file because they really slowed the conversion down and I knew
we were going to replace the pasted-in images with anchored frames 
and referenced graphics post-conversion.

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Keeping a frame with the next paragraph

[Stuart Rogers]

Kwiatkowski Richard (ST-VS/DOC-La) wrote:
> Hello Framers,
> 
> A questions was raised during a meeting abuot how to force a frame to
> stay with the next paragraph. For example, we have an anchored frame
> that contains an image. The next paragraph is an achor placeholder for a
> table that contains a legend for the image. The question is: Is there a
> way within FrameMaker (7.2 or 8) to ensure that the frame and the legend
> are always on the same page? We tried Keep with Next and Keep with
> Previous with no success.
> 
> Thanks for any advice.

Richard,

There are a couple of approaches you can use.  Since you're already 
inserting a table for the legend, you could simply add a row at the top 
of the table and put the image there, setting the table orphan rows to a 
suitably high number to keep the rows together.

My own preferred method is to dedicate a pgf to each image and put only 
the anchored frames (At Insertion Point) in those pgfs.  The tag for the 
dedicated pgf is defined to Keep With Next Pgf, and the Next Pgf Tag is 
my legend pgf.  This approach also gives me control over Space Above the 
image, indentation, etc.

HTH,

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Word to Frame

[Jennifer Randel]

Hi all,
Wouldn't it be just as easy to use Silicon Prairie Software's Paragraph Tools 
as it is to create that macro?

~Jennifer

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:20 PM
To: Mike Feimster; Flato, Gillian; Framers List
Subject: RE: Word to Frame


Responding to Gillian Flato, Mike Feimster wrote:
> What I've done in the past is use word macros to make the para styles
> in Word match the Frame styles, then import the word docs into Frame.


That's exactly the same approach I used in converting ~10k pages of Word docs 
(>50 docs) into FrameMaker at a previous employer.

Just to amplify on a few points, though:

You really want to use File>Import>File (Copy Into Document) to pull the Word 
content into a pre-formatted FrameMaker template rather than directly opening 
the Word file from the FrameMaker File menu. Besides the fact that the import 
filter somehow seems more robust in that mode, you also have the opportunity to 
leave behind most of Word-specific formatting junk by choosing the "Reformat 
Using Current Document's Formatting" option in the Import Text Flow by Copy 
dialog.

In the same macro that you use to rename the Word paragraph styles, you should 
also redefine any styles that use bullets or numbering to remove them. If 
bullets or autonumbers are present in the Word file, FrameMaker does its best 
to preserve them and you'll get garbage characters in the converted file.

Other useful operations in prepping the Word file are to remove any TOC, LOT, 
LOF, and index (since FrameMaker handles them completely differently), strip 
any headers and footers (these will be defined in your FrameMaker template) and 
remove any section breaks (meaningless in Frame). In my own process, I also 
removed all graphics from the Word file because they really slowed the 
conversion down and I knew we were going to replace the pasted-in images with 
anchored frames and referenced graphics post-conversion.

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Keeping a frame with the next paragraph

[Mike Wickham]

The method I use for graphics with captions is to create a one-cell table 
with title. Put the graphic in the cell and the caption in the title. 
They'll always stay together. The title (caption) can be set for above or 
below. I think it looks better below, but if your intention is to create a 
document with hyperlinks to the captions, it may be better to put them above 
the graphic. This is because the hyperlink jump will position the title 
(caption) paragraph at the top of the screen, and the associated picture 
would be above it, off screen.

Mike Wickham

Word to Frame

[Fred Ridder]

I always found it beneficial to leave behind as much of the Word
formatting as possible, and the best way to do that is to make the
Word style names match the FrameMaker tag names so that you
bring in only the tag name in addition to the content.  > From: jennifer_randel 
at khsd.k12.ca.us> To: docudoc at hotmail.com; gflato at nanometrics.com; 
framers at frameusers.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:25:44 -0800> Subject: RE: 
Word to Frame> > Hi all,> Wouldn't it be just as easy to use Silicon Prairie 
Software's Paragraph Tools as it is to create that macro?> > ~Jennifer> > 
-Original Message-> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder> 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:20 PM> To: Mike Feimster; Flato, Gillian; 
Framers List> Subject: RE: Word to Frame> > > Responding to Gillian Flato, Mike 
Feimster wrote:> > What I've done in the past is use word macros to make the 
para styles> > in Word match the Frame styles, then import the word docs into 
Frame.> > > That's exactly the same approach I used in converting ~10k pages of 
Word docs (>50 docs) into FrameMaker at a previous employer.> > Just to amplify 
on a few points, though:> > You really want to use File>Import>File (Copy Into 
Document) to pull the Word content into a pre-formatted FrameMaker template 
rather than directly opening the Word file from the FrameMaker File menu. 
Besides the fact that the import filter somehow seems more robust in that mode, 
you also have the opportunity to leave behind most of Word-specific formatting 
junk by choosing the "Reformat Using Current Document's Formatting" option in 
the Import Text Flow by Copy dialog.> > In the same macro that you use to 
rename the Word paragraph styles, you should also redefine any styles that use 
bullets or numbering to remove them. If bullets or autonumbers are present in 
the Word file, FrameMaker does its best to preserve them and you'll get garbage 
characters in the converted file.> > Other useful operations in prepping the 
Word file are to remove any TOC, LOT, LOF, and index (since FrameMaker handles 
them completely differently), strip any headers and footers (these will be 
defined in your FrameMaker template) and remove any section breaks (meaningless 
in Frame). In my own process, I also removed all graphics from the Word file 
because they really slowed the conversion down and I knew we were going to 
replace the pasted-in images with anchored frames and referenced graphics 
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hey y'all

[Deirdre Reagan]

Have a good weekend everyone!

Thanks for all your helpful advice this week.  I've been learning in
leaps and bounds, so I really appreciate everyone's ideas and words of
encouragement.

Deirdre

XMetal vs Structured Frame

[Flato, Gillian]

I am currently taking a DITA class and we're using a free trial copy of
XMetal for the class. If any of you have experience in both XMetal and
Structured Frame, can you tell me how they compare and which one you
like better?


Thank you,



 

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

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PDFMark and placement of bookmarks

[William Abernathy]

In my long-form template, which is used for books that have a multiple-chapter 
format, the following PDFMark code puts the off-book bookmarks (bookmarks that 
point to another .pdf file in the same directory) at the top of the PDF 
bookmarks column, in order. In my short-form templates, these bookmarks appear 
at the bottom of the Bookmarks column.

Redacting for brevity the PDFMark statements that tell PostScript printers to 
pay no attention to the PDFMark code, the initial page and title view 
declarations, and the forcing of document properties, the germane code is as 
follows:

% Creates X-Ref bookmarks first:
  [/Title (Manual)
  /Action /GoToR /File (_man.pdf)
  /C [0 0 1]
  /F 2
  /OUT pdfmark

  [/Title (User Guide)
  /Action /GoToR /File (_ug.pdf)
  /C [0 0 1]
  /F 2
  /OUT pdfmark

  [/Title (Release Notes)
  /Action /GoToR /File (_rn.pdf)
  /C [0 0 1]
  /F 2
  /OUT pdfmark

(Where  is a variable for the common file name of the book.)

On a long-form book (multiple document files, grouped by a .book file), the 
Bookmarks column thus appears as:

Manual
User Guide
Release Notes
Contents
Preface
Chapter 1, etc...

However, when I use this code in a short-form document (with a single document 
file, no .book file), the bookmarks column places these at:

...Appendix Z
Index
Manual
User Guide
Release Notes

While I can manually move these to the top where they belong, it's a needless 
pain in the neck, and should be something I can address automagically, this 
being the whole point of PDFMark.

So...Any tips?

Oh yes...I'm using FM 7.x on Windows XP > Acrobat Distiller 7.0.

Thanks in advance,

--William

Cross references not converting to PDF hyperlinks

[Doug]

Hi-

I have a document that I've added a number of cross references to.  I've
noticed that while the cross references work properly within FrameMaker,
clicking the hyperlink in the resulting PDF file does nothing:  many
hyperlinks are broken.

Upon further testing, I think the problem might be that I've changed the
destination paragraph tag after I created the cross reference.  In other
words, when I originally created the cross reference, the paragraph tag was
H1.  The cross-reference marker text is "12345_H1:MyParaText."  I've kept
that marker there, but changed the paragraph tag, say to H2.  When I
eliminated the cross-reference marker and added a new one, such that the
marker text is "56789_H2:MyParaText," the hyperlink does work in the
resulting PDF file.

Is this indeed the source of the problem?  Has anyone ever had this problem
before?  I've had mismatched paragraph tags and marker text before without
any problem, so this is surprising.  I didn't know if it might be related to
the number of cross references.  Is there a limit?

This is a major problem for me.  I've painstakingly added numerous cross
references to make my Help system (and PDF files) more usable.  Hopefully,
WebWorks will still produce the links properly, but I'm not sure that I want
to keep these faulty links in the PDF files.  However, removing and
reinserting markers for the paragraphs that changed tags would be ominous.
Worse, I now think that I can never change paragraph tags for a paragraph
that contains a cross-reference marker.  That would be a nasty limitation,
one that makes cross references less useful.

I'm using Frame 7.2p158 unstructured and Adobe Acrobat Distiller 8.1.2.
Could this possibly be a problem with incompatibilities between Frame
7.xand Distiller
8.x?

Thanks for any insights.

Doug