FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

[qui...@airmail.net]

I'm sorry to report that after doing the procedure you listed below, 
I still couldn't enter text without drawing a text box within the 
margins. This is exactly why it isn't more than a page layout 
program. It fails to provide me with a default page that can be used 
to write upon without having to define the text frame.

It follows the paste-up page paradigm exactly. Which says to me that 
this program is a paste-up program not a replacement for FrameMaker. 
It is a killer when placed against Quark Xpress, which behaves in the 
same manner. And even with all the plug-ins for Xpress, it isn't a 
serious contender to replace FrameMaker. Neither is InDesign.

Scott


At 3:38 PM +0100 9/25/08, Paul Findon wrote:
>On 23 Sep 2008, at 21:05, quills at airmail.net wrote:
>
>>  Every time I try the demo of InDesign I can't get past the part where
>>  I make a page and look for where the text entry starts. As in, where
>>  is the cursor for text?
>
>On the New Document dialog box, select Master Text Frame, then click 
>OK. When the new document appears, select the Text tool, Command-
>Shift-click (Ctrl+Shift+click) the frame, and start typing.
>
>Paul

missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

[Mike Wickham]

> I could have sworn the warning about that -- complete with link to KB
> article that I remember reading -- appeared a few years ago on this
> list. But now I can't find it, either in my FrameUsers archive or in the
> Adobe KB. Sorry for the scare.

Richard, you did remember right that there was a bug caused by uninstalling 
ATM Lite, and Adobe had a downloadable patch to repair Windows (or the PS 
driver?) after doing so.

Mike Wickham 

Re: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

[quills]

I'm sorry to report that after doing the procedure you listed below, 
I still couldn't enter text without drawing a text box within the 
margins. This is exactly why it isn't more than a page layout 
program. It fails to provide me with a default page that can be used 
to write upon without having to define the text frame.

It follows the paste-up page paradigm exactly. Which says to me that 
this program is a paste-up program not a replacement for FrameMaker. 
It is a killer when placed against Quark Xpress, which behaves in the 
same manner. And even with all the plug-ins for Xpress, it isn't a 
serious contender to replace FrameMaker. Neither is InDesign.

Scott


At 3:38 PM +0100 9/25/08, Paul Findon wrote:
>On 23 Sep 2008, at 21:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>  Every time I try the demo of InDesign I can't get past the part where
>>  I make a page and look for where the text entry starts. As in, where
>>  is the cursor for text?
>
>On the New Document dialog box, select Master Text Frame, then click 
>OK. When the new document appears, select the Text tool, Command-
>Shift-click (Ctrl+Shift+click) the frame, and start typing.
>
>Paul
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Re: missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

[Mike Wickham]

> I could have sworn the warning about that -- complete with link to KB
> article that I remember reading -- appeared a few years ago on this
> list. But now I can't find it, either in my FrameUsers archive or in the
> Adobe KB. Sorry for the scare.

Richard, you did remember right that there was a bug caused by uninstalling 
ATM Lite, and Adobe had a downloadable patch to repair Windows (or the PS 
driver?) after doing so.

Mike Wickham 


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missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

[Combs, Richard]

Art Campbell wrote: 

> I agree almost all of Richard's post, except his antipathy to ATM
> Lite. It works fine on XP systems, and it still my PS font manager of
> choice, although both Adobe and Microsoft agree that it "isn't
> required." But it works for me, has worked for years, and continues to
> work on multiple systems. It's especially useful to corral older PS
> font files.

I could have sworn the warning about that -- complete with link to KB
article that I remember reading -- appeared a few years ago on this
list. But now I can't find it, either in my FrameUsers archive or in the
Adobe KB. Sorry for the scare. 

Maybe I'm not just forgetting things these days, I'm also remembering
things that never happened. :-} 

(Someone gave me a t-shirt for my birthday a couple of years ago that
says, "I remember back in the day... oh, well... I guess I don't."

Richard 


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FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

[Paul Findon]

On 23 Sep 2008, at 21:05, quills at airmail.net wrote:

> Every time I try the demo of InDesign I can't get past the part where
> I make a page and look for where the text entry starts. As in, where
> is the cursor for text?

On the New Document dialog box, select Master Text Frame, then click  
OK. When the new document appears, select the Text tool, Command- 
Shift-click (Ctrl+Shift+click) the frame, and start typing.

Paul

The case of dancing drop-downs

[Gyanesh Talwar]

Hi Framers,
This is my second mail on this subject. See for yourself what my dancing
drop-downs look like:

http://www.screencast.com/users/Gyanesh_Talwar/folders/Jing/media/53131363-8f83-408e-ac20-6d0a334ba7af


I suspect this is a mouse issue more than a Frame issue. But I want to check
if anyone else also has faced it and if there is any fix to this.

Regards,
Gyanesh



On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Gyanesh Talwar wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Frame 7.2b128
> Lenovo Thinkpad T61
> Windows XP
>
> I see the drop downs dancing (blinking) when I expand them in a particular
> template. As soon as I expand a drop-down, such as para formats and roll my
> mouse over it, it starts blinking. Is this a template specific problem?
>
> Anyone else also faced it?
>
> Regards,
>
>

RE: missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

[Combs, Richard]

Art Campbell wrote: 

> I agree almost all of Richard's post, except his antipathy to ATM
> Lite. It works fine on XP systems, and it still my PS font manager of
> choice, although both Adobe and Microsoft agree that it "isn't
> required." But it works for me, has worked for years, and continues to
> work on multiple systems. It's especially useful to corral older PS
> font files.

I could have sworn the warning about that -- complete with link to KB
article that I remember reading -- appeared a few years ago on this
list. But now I can't find it, either in my FrameUsers archive or in the
Adobe KB. Sorry for the scare. 

Maybe I'm not just forgetting things these days, I'm also remembering
things that never happened. :-} 

(Someone gave me a t-shirt for my birthday a couple of years ago that
says, "I remember back in the day... oh, well... I guess I don't."

Richard 


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

[Art Campbell]

The easiest way to fix things up would be to either network to your
old PC or pull the C drive from it and install it as an additional (a
slave, not the master) drive in your new machine.

Then perform whatever font installs you need to do to get all the
fonts from the old machine installed properly.

This would also be the easy way to snarf your old maker.ini file and
any other plug ins and odd bits that you may have forgotten.

***
You don't mention setting the Adobe PDF logical printer as your system
default, which is a good thing to do. It eliminates seeing references
to fonts that may be resident on a physical pritner but which aren't
actually installed on your system.

***
I agree almost all of Richard's post, except his antipathy to ATM
Lite. It works fine on XP systems, and it still my PS font manager of
choice, although both Adobe and Microsoft agree that it "isn't
required." But it works for me, has worked for years, and continues to
work on multiple systems. It's especially useful to corral older PS
font files.

Art





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On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Scott Penney  wrote:
> I need to reset my fonts for a new computer; this is especially important for 
> bullets and some symbols. How can I configure Frame so that it uses the fonts 
> that it used on the old machine?
>
> I'm using FM 7.1 on Windows XP Professional (Version 2002, Service Pack 3), 
> and I need to restore my font settings so that FM can use Helvetica for some 
> paragraph formats and ZapfDingbats for square bullets and other symbols. 
> Currently ZapfDingbats is replaced by Times New Roman, Helvetica by Arial, 
> and Times by Times Roman.
>
> So far, I have downloaded the free Adobe Type Manager from the Abobe Website. 
> Both Helvetica, Times, and Zapf Dingbats appear in the ATM window in the 
> PSFONTS folder.
>
> However, when I open a Frame document, I get the missing fonts message 
> followed by the Framemaker Console List with the list of unavailable fonts 
> followed by the fonts that replace them.
>
> Furthermore, in the Family drop-down list, Default tab of the Paragraph 
> Designer dialog box, the missing fonts appear in grey.
>
> Some years ago, when I was using FM 6 on Windows 2000, I seem to recall 
> changing the font settings in the maker.ini file; that recollection may be 
> unreliable.
>
> I tried to follow the Customizing FrameMaker manual for locating the 
> maker.ini files and changing font profiles, but couldn't find the 
> corresponding folders on my machine (the manual indicates 
> UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0).
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Scott Penney
> Technical Writer/Editor
> Concepts NREC
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ePublisher Pro vs. other generated online help

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:01:44 -0400, "Rick Quatro"  
wrote:

>I respectfully disagree with the idea of "vendor interference". Since 
>third-party products related to FrameMaker are part of many workflows, I 
>don't think it is inappropriate at all to talk about them on the list. 

Obviously, I agree.  That applies to *any* third-party product.

>To put the shoe on the other foot, if someone posts a difficulty with their 
>MIF2Go process, and you know that ePublisher can solve their problem, I 
>think it is more than appropriate for you to point this out. 

Absolutely!  I'd want to know about that too.  We *do* give referrals
to other vendors when we know of something they do that we don't, or
that they do better.  That has included Quadralay.  For example, ePP
works with Word as source; we don't.  If you have both Frame and Word
docs going into the same Help system, you should certainly consider
using ePP for that.

>Although some may see this as self-serving on your part, it still serves 
>the overall purpose of the list, which is to help people solve FrameMaker-
>related problems. 

Exactly; that's the bottom line.

>We all know that Jeremy is biased towards MIF2Go, 

Yep.  At least, I'm way more *familiar* with it than I am with other
options.  ;-)  I can't browse the C++ source of any other plugin... 

>but I still find it beneficial to read how it may solve a particular 
>problem. This kind of information can be valuable for me down the road. 

Right.  And for the vendors themselves, it may suggest areas where
they can improve.  This helps everyone.

>If he, or any other vendor, overstates their case, there are others on 
>the list that can and should point that out.

Right again.  This list serves as a reality check for vendor claims.

>Overall, I think it is good practice for vendors to monitor the FrameMaker 
>lists and be ready to contribute, especially if the discussion involves 
>their products. It gives them credibility as being in touch with FrameMaker 
>users and ready to help provide solutions.

It gives them even more credibility, as members of the community,
if they *also* post on points unrelated to their products where
they happen to have expertise.  After a while, you get to know who
is on top of various aspects of Frame.  For example, I'm not going
to post about FrameScript because I know Rick will, and he's the
expert on it.  But I will post about FM8 Unicode issues that are
unrelated to conversion because I know those very well.

Thank you, Rick, for a clear and cogent analysis!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Re: ePublisher Pro vs. other generated online help

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:01:44 -0400, "Rick Quatro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>I respectfully disagree with the idea of "vendor interference". Since 
>third-party products related to FrameMaker are part of many workflows, I 
>don't think it is inappropriate at all to talk about them on the list. 

Obviously, I agree.  That applies to *any* third-party product.

>To put the shoe on the other foot, if someone posts a difficulty with their 
>MIF2Go process, and you know that ePublisher can solve their problem, I 
>think it is more than appropriate for you to point this out. 

Absolutely!  I'd want to know about that too.  We *do* give referrals
to other vendors when we know of something they do that we don't, or
that they do better.  That has included Quadralay.  For example, ePP
works with Word as source; we don't.  If you have both Frame and Word
docs going into the same Help system, you should certainly consider
using ePP for that.

>Although some may see this as self-serving on your part, it still serves 
>the overall purpose of the list, which is to help people solve FrameMaker-
>related problems. 

Exactly; that's the bottom line.

>We all know that Jeremy is biased towards MIF2Go, 

Yep.  At least, I'm way more *familiar* with it than I am with other
options.  ;-)  I can't browse the C++ source of any other plugin... 

>but I still find it beneficial to read how it may solve a particular 
>problem. This kind of information can be valuable for me down the road. 

Right.  And for the vendors themselves, it may suggest areas where
they can improve.  This helps everyone.

>If he, or any other vendor, overstates their case, there are others on 
>the list that can and should point that out.

Right again.  This list serves as a reality check for vendor claims.

>Overall, I think it is good practice for vendors to monitor the FrameMaker 
>lists and be ready to contribute, especially if the discussion involves 
>their products. It gives them credibility as being in touch with FrameMaker 
>users and ready to help provide solutions.

It gives them even more credibility, as members of the community,
if they *also* post on points unrelated to their products where
they happen to have expertise.  After a while, you get to know who
is on top of various aspects of Frame.  For example, I'm not going
to post about FrameScript because I know Rick will, and he's the
expert on it.  But I will post about FM8 Unicode issues that are
unrelated to conversion because I know those very well.

Thank you, Rick, for a clear and cogent analysis!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
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Re: Mif2Go Content Models

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:52:54 -0400, "Denise Kadilak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I'm a very new user of Mif2Go - trying to test it a bit and see if this
>is a direction we should consider. My current goal is to produce DITA
>XML from structured FrameMaker files, and following the Mif2Go User's
>Guide, I'm trying to generate a content model from our DTD. 

You only need to do that if you have specialized from the standard
DITA DTDs.  If you are just using the OASIS DTDs, the content models
are built in to Mif2Go, for both 1.0 and 1.1.

>The User's Guide refers me to the dtd2ini.txt file for instructions on
>producing the content model configuration file, and this txt file
>instructs me to download the XML parser RXP. The instructions claim the
>download is available on the OMSYS download page - I don't' see it. I
>attempted to locate a Windows download on the internet - I can't find
>one. 

All you need is on our download page under "XML Utilities":
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm#XML_Downloads
You should need only two of the four .zips, dtd2ini02win.zip and
contentmodels.zip.

Perhaps what confused you was this in dtd2ini.txt (which is in the
dtd2ini02win.zip on the above page):

  dtd2ini is based on the validating XML parser RXP.  We wish to thank
  Richard Tobin, the author of RXP, for creating that parser, and for 
  his kind advice during development of dtd2ini.

  RXP is open source, licensed under the GPL v.2, and therefore dtd2ini
  is also open source under the same license.  Both the current Windows
  executable and the full C source are available on Omni Systems' web
  site, and are freely downloadable without any obligation, from:
http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

This is *not* telling you to download RXP; that's not necessary, since
dtd2ini.exe, furnished in the same .zip, *contains* all the RXP code
needed.  The reason you need to download dtd2ini separately from the 
regular Mif2Go package is licensing.  We can't legally include a GPL
program in the same .zip as a commercial product.  We're a bit fanatical
about respecting software licenses, including the GPL, so it's a .zip
of its own.  That is also why we have another .zip next to it with
the full C source code for dtd2ini; that too is required by the GPL.

If anyone does want to download RXP itself, it is available at:
  http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~richard/rxp.html
Again, it is *not* necessary to do that to use Mif2Go or dtd2ini.

>The instructions in the txt file are a little messy in general, but now
>I'm worrying that they may also be out-of-date. Does anyone have some
>advice on the Mif2Go documentation in general or my problem
>specifically? I'm also very prepared to accept full responsibility for
>this confusion. I fear I may be in over my head with this tool.

Sorry!  I'm personally responsible for that .txt file, which is an
object lesson on why programmers should not write docs.  Mea culpa!

The primary Mif2Go doc, the 1000-page User's Guide, is much better,
because it was written by a real TW.  Imagine that!  ;-)

Please feel free to write us directly if you have any other problems!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://www.omsys.com/
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Mif2Go Content Models

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:52:54 -0400, "Denise Kadilak"  wrote:

>I'm a very new user of Mif2Go - trying to test it a bit and see if this
>is a direction we should consider. My current goal is to produce DITA
>XML from structured FrameMaker files, and following the Mif2Go User's
>Guide, I'm trying to generate a content model from our DTD. 

You only need to do that if you have specialized from the standard
DITA DTDs.  If you are just using the OASIS DTDs, the content models
are built in to Mif2Go, for both 1.0 and 1.1.

>The User's Guide refers me to the dtd2ini.txt file for instructions on
>producing the content model configuration file, and this txt file
>instructs me to download the XML parser RXP. The instructions claim the
>download is available on the OMSYS download page - I don't' see it. I
>attempted to locate a Windows download on the internet - I can't find
>one. 

All you need is on our download page under "XML Utilities":
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm#XML_Downloads
You should need only two of the four .zips, dtd2ini02win.zip and
contentmodels.zip.

Perhaps what confused you was this in dtd2ini.txt (which is in the
dtd2ini02win.zip on the above page):

  dtd2ini is based on the validating XML parser RXP.  We wish to thank
  Richard Tobin, the author of RXP, for creating that parser, and for 
  his kind advice during development of dtd2ini.

  RXP is open source, licensed under the GPL v.2, and therefore dtd2ini
  is also open source under the same license.  Both the current Windows
  executable and the full C source are available on Omni Systems' web
  site, and are freely downloadable without any obligation, from:
http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

This is *not* telling you to download RXP; that's not necessary, since
dtd2ini.exe, furnished in the same .zip, *contains* all the RXP code
needed.  The reason you need to download dtd2ini separately from the 
regular Mif2Go package is licensing.  We can't legally include a GPL
program in the same .zip as a commercial product.  We're a bit fanatical
about respecting software licenses, including the GPL, so it's a .zip
of its own.  That is also why we have another .zip next to it with
the full C source code for dtd2ini; that too is required by the GPL.

If anyone does want to download RXP itself, it is available at:
  http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~richard/rxp.html
Again, it is *not* necessary to do that to use Mif2Go or dtd2ini.

>The instructions in the txt file are a little messy in general, but now
>I'm worrying that they may also be out-of-date. Does anyone have some
>advice on the Mif2Go documentation in general or my problem
>specifically? I'm also very prepared to accept full responsibility for
>this confusion. I fear I may be in over my head with this tool.

Sorry!  I'm personally responsible for that .txt file, which is an
object lesson on why programmers should not write docs.  Mea culpa!

The primary Mif2Go doc, the 1000-page User's Guide, is much better,
because it was written by a real TW.  Imagine that!  ;-)

Please feel free to write us directly if you have any other problems!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

print color setting is inconsistent

[Art Campbell]

It doesn't have anything to do with your actual printer, it has to do
with your color definitions in one or more Frame files. Pick a file
that doesn't generate that error, then select all other files in the
book. Do File > Import > Formats and import only the Color definitions
to all the other files. Save all the files. Update and you should be
fine.

Art

Art Campbell

art.campbell at gmail.com
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Vincent and a redheaded grl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
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On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Deirdre Reagan
 wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> FM 8.0, Windows platform.
>
> I'm getting the following error message when I run my book:
>
> Print setting for color Black is inconsistent.
> Print setting for color Cyan is inconsistent.
> Print setting for etc etc for nine more colors.
>
> I've run a help and I've gone through my printer settings.  I can't
> figure out what might be triggering the error message.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Deirdre
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ePublisher Pro vs. other generated online help

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Andrew,

I respectfully disagree with the idea of "vendor interference". Since 
third-party products related to FrameMaker are part of many workflows, I 
don't think it is inappropriate at all to talk about them on the list. To 
put the shoe on the other foot, if someone posts a difficulty with their 
MIF2Go process, and you know that ePublisher can solve their problem, I 
think it is more than appropriate for you to point this out. Although some 
may see this as self-serving on your part, it still serves the overall 
purpose of the list, which is to help people solve FrameMaker-related 
problems. We all know that Jeremy is biased towards MIF2Go, but I still find 
it beneficial to read how it may solve a particular problem. This kind of 
information can be valuable for me down the road. If he, or any other 
vendor, overstates their case, there are others on the list that can and 
should point that out.

Overall, I think it is good practice for vendors to monitor the FrameMaker 
lists and be ready to contribute, especially if the discussion involves 
their products. It gives them credibility as being in touch with FrameMaker 
users and ready to help provide solutions.

BTW, I am not the list moderator, so I only expressing my opinion :-).

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> Greetings Framers,
>
> We/WebWorks (Quadralay) very rarely weigh in on this list or any other
> list. We believe in nice open discussions with as little vendor
> interference as possible. In the 8 years I have worked at WebWorks this
> is my first posting to Framers.
>
> In light of the recent discussion on ePublisher I thought I would weigh
> in, not with an essay of how ePublisher measures up against other
> products. I believe that kind of post would be inappropriate coming from
> a vendor and might create further confusion because I can only expertly
> comment in reference to ePublisher.
>
> With that in mind, I would like to invite each of you to attend any of
> our free public ePublisher webinars (Jeremy, I would love to have you
> attend as well) these webinars are not sales pitches; they are an open
> forum for you to ask questions about ePublisher and for us to help you
> find the most effective solution. As you will see we offer many
> different webinar topics for our customers and all are welcome to
> register for any of them.
>
> If you are interested in attending a webinar please got to
> http://www.webworks.com/Webinars/ .
>
> Feel free to contact me directly either by phone or email.
>
> Thank you for your time,
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> andrew at webworks.com 
> 805-794-6333

print color setting is inconsistent

[Deirdre Reagan]

I see now what I did.  On the title page of the book, I had some
variables that I didn't fill in, so I CNTL-D'ed them red to remind
myself to change them later.

Then I ran the book.

Next time, I'll highlight!

Thanks all.

Deirdre

On 9/25/08, Combs, Richard  wrote:
> Deirdre Reagan wrote:
>
> > I'm getting the following error message when I run my book:
> >
> > Print setting for color Black is inconsistent.
> > Print setting for color Cyan is inconsistent.
> > Print setting for etc etc for nine more colors.
> >
> > I've run a help and I've gone through my printer settings.  I can't
> > figure out what might be triggering the error message.
>
> Art is correct, but with one clarification called for. You get these
> error messages when FM encounters a file in the book that differs from
> the first one. If your title page has screwed-up color definitions and
> all the others are as they should be, you'll get error messages for each
> of the other files. FM's just telling you "the definitions aren't
> consistent with what came before." It's up to you to determine which
> file has the definitions you want. Then import them from that file to
> all the others.
>
> Richard
>
>
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> --
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
> 303-777-0436
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Can FM6 and FM8 coexist on the same computer?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Richard,

> Can I install FM8 on this computer, having both FM6 and FM8 coexist?

Yes.

> Are there any issues that I should be aware of?

The last one that you install will launch when you double-click on a .fm or 
.book file in Explorer, unless FrameMaker is already running. If FrameMaker 
is already running, it will attempt to open the file you double-clicked on. 
If FM 6 is running and you double-click on an FM 8 file, FM 6 will try 
unsuccessfully to open it.

Otherwise, it all works fine. I have Frame 5.5.6, 6, 7, 7.2, 8, etc. all 
installed on one computer.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

> Thanks!
> Richard
> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit
> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. 

print color setting is inconsistent

[Deirdre Reagan]

Hi all:

FM 8.0, Windows platform.

I'm getting the following error message when I run my book:

Print setting for color Black is inconsistent.
Print setting for color Cyan is inconsistent.
Print setting for etc etc for nine more colors.

I've run a help and I've gone through my printer settings.  I can't
figure out what might be triggering the error message.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Deirdre

print color setting is inconsistent

[Combs, Richard]

Deirdre Reagan wrote:

> I'm getting the following error message when I run my book:
> 
> Print setting for color Black is inconsistent.
> Print setting for color Cyan is inconsistent.
> Print setting for etc etc for nine more colors.
> 
> I've run a help and I've gone through my printer settings.  I can't
> figure out what might be triggering the error message.

Art is correct, but with one clarification called for. You get these
error messages when FM encounters a file in the book that differs from
the first one. If your title page has screwed-up color definitions and
all the others are as they should be, you'll get error messages for each
of the other files. FM's just telling you "the definitions aren't
consistent with what came before." It's up to you to determine which
file has the definitions you want. Then import them from that file to
all the others. 

Richard


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--

missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

[Combs, Richard]

Scott Penney wrote: 

> I need to reset my fonts for a new computer; this is especially
important
> for bullets and some symbols. How can I configure Frame so that it
uses the
> fonts that it used on the old machine?

Wrong verb. Not "reset" -- "install." And note that connecting to a
PostScript printer gives you access to the standard PostScript fonts
when printing to that printer, but they're not installed on your PC and
can't be used in PDFs.

> I'm using FM 7.1 on Windows XP Professional (Version 2002, Service
Pack 3),
> and I need to restore my font settings so that FM can use Helvetica
for
> some paragraph formats and ZapfDingbats for square bullets and other
> symbols. Currently ZapfDingbats is replaced by Times New Roman,
Helvetica
> by Arial, and Times by Times Roman.
> 
> So far, I have downloaded the free Adobe Type Manager from the Abobe
> Website. Both Helvetica, Times, and Zapf Dingbats appear in the ATM
window
> in the PSFONTS folder.

Sorry to hear that. IIRC, ATM Lite is not compatible with Win XP, only
ATM Deluxe (not free) is. It's been several years now, but I recall that
installing ATM Lite on XP caused problems, and that removing it required
a special utility from Adobe (Add/Remove Programs couldn't undo the
damage). You'll need to search the Adobe Knowledgebase for the details. 

> However, when I open a Frame document, I get the missing fonts message
> followed by the Framemaker Console List with the list of unavailable
fonts
> followed by the fonts that replace them.
> 
> Furthermore, in the Family drop-down list, Default tab of the
Paragraph
> Designer dialog box, the missing fonts appear in grey.
>
> Some years ago, when I was using FM 6 on Windows 2000, I seem to
recall
> changing the font settings in the maker.ini file; that recollection
may be
> unreliable.

No, you remember right. In the [Fonts] section of the file, you can
change the default substitute for missing fonts as well as map specific
missing fonts to the replacements you want to use. It's not for the
faint of heart and may require some experimentation to get right. Then,
if you turn of Remember Missing Font Names, the substitutions will
become permanent. 

Of course, this assumes that you really do want to permanently replace
the font. That might be true for replacing Times with Times New Roman,
but you can't just replace one symbol font, like Zapf Dingbats, with
another -- an "f" is an "f," but in symbol fonts, the characters don't
correspond. 

> I tried to follow the Customizing FrameMaker manual for locating the
> maker.ini files and changing font profiles, but couldn't find the
> corresponding folders on my machine (the manual indicates
> UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0).

The main maker.ini is right where it's always been -- the FM
installation folder -- and that's the one you probably want to make font
mapping changes in. There's another one for your personal settings, but
it's mainly for things like window sizes and positions, recent files,
etc. "UserProfile" is a variable referring to a specific user's
"profile" data, the location of which depends on the Windows version. 

This is all explained on page 1 of the Customizing manual under the
heading "Locating customization files." There's a table there that shows
you where UserProfile is for each Windows version. 

Richard


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--

Re: print color setting is inconsistent

[Deirdre Reagan]

I see now what I did.  On the title page of the book, I had some
variables that I didn't fill in, so I CNTL-D'ed them red to remind
myself to change them later.

Then I ran the book.

Next time, I'll highlight!

Thanks all.

Deirdre

On 9/25/08, Combs, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Deirdre Reagan wrote:
>
> > I'm getting the following error message when I run my book:
> >
> > Print setting for color Black is inconsistent.
> > Print setting for color Cyan is inconsistent.
> > Print setting for etc etc for nine more colors.
> >
> > I've run a help and I've gone through my printer settings.  I can't
> > figure out what might be triggering the error message.
>
> Art is correct, but with one clarification called for. You get these
> error messages when FM encounters a file in the book that differs from
> the first one. If your title page has screwed-up color definitions and
> all the others are as they should be, you'll get error messages for each
> of the other files. FM's just telling you "the definitions aren't
> consistent with what came before." It's up to you to determine which
> file has the definitions you want. Then import them from that file to
> all the others.
>
> Richard
>
>
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> --
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
> 303-777-0436
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

[Art Campbell]

The easiest way to fix things up would be to either network to your
old PC or pull the C drive from it and install it as an additional (a
slave, not the master) drive in your new machine.

Then perform whatever font installs you need to do to get all the
fonts from the old machine installed properly.

This would also be the easy way to snarf your old maker.ini file and
any other plug ins and odd bits that you may have forgotten.

***
You don't mention setting the Adobe PDF logical printer as your system
default, which is a good thing to do. It eliminates seeing references
to fonts that may be resident on a physical pritner but which aren't
actually installed on your system.

***
I agree almost all of Richard's post, except his antipathy to ATM
Lite. It works fine on XP systems, and it still my PS font manager of
choice, although both Adobe and Microsoft agree that it "isn't
required." But it works for me, has worked for years, and continues to
work on multiple systems. It's especially useful to corral older PS
font files.

Art





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On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Scott Penney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I need to reset my fonts for a new computer; this is especially important for 
> bullets and some symbols. How can I configure Frame so that it uses the fonts 
> that it used on the old machine?
>
> I'm using FM 7.1 on Windows XP Professional (Version 2002, Service Pack 3), 
> and I need to restore my font settings so that FM can use Helvetica for some 
> paragraph formats and ZapfDingbats for square bullets and other symbols. 
> Currently ZapfDingbats is replaced by Times New Roman, Helvetica by Arial, 
> and Times by Times Roman.
>
> So far, I have downloaded the free Adobe Type Manager from the Abobe Website. 
> Both Helvetica, Times, and Zapf Dingbats appear in the ATM window in the 
> PSFONTS folder.
>
> However, when I open a Frame document, I get the missing fonts message 
> followed by the Framemaker Console List with the list of unavailable fonts 
> followed by the fonts that replace them.
>
> Furthermore, in the Family drop-down list, Default tab of the Paragraph 
> Designer dialog box, the missing fonts appear in grey.
>
> Some years ago, when I was using FM 6 on Windows 2000, I seem to recall 
> changing the font settings in the maker.ini file; that recollection may be 
> unreliable.
>
> I tried to follow the Customizing FrameMaker manual for locating the 
> maker.ini files and changing font profiles, but couldn't find the 
> corresponding folders on my machine (the manual indicates 
> UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0).
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Scott Penney
> Technical Writer/Editor
> Concepts NREC
> 217 Billings Farm Road
> White River Jct., VT 05001-9486
> Tel:  802-296-2321 Ext. 130
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RE: print color setting is inconsistent

[Combs, Richard]

Deirdre Reagan wrote:
 
> I'm getting the following error message when I run my book:
> 
> Print setting for color Black is inconsistent.
> Print setting for color Cyan is inconsistent.
> Print setting for etc etc for nine more colors.
> 
> I've run a help and I've gone through my printer settings.  I can't
> figure out what might be triggering the error message.

Art is correct, but with one clarification called for. You get these
error messages when FM encounters a file in the book that differs from
the first one. If your title page has screwed-up color definitions and
all the others are as they should be, you'll get error messages for each
of the other files. FM's just telling you "the definitions aren't
consistent with what came before." It's up to you to determine which
file has the definitions you want. Then import them from that file to
all the others. 

Richard


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Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
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missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

[Scott Penney]

I need to reset my fonts for a new computer; this is especially important for 
bullets and some symbols. How can I configure Frame so that it uses the fonts 
that it used on the old machine?

I'm using FM 7.1 on Windows XP Professional (Version 2002, Service Pack 3), and 
I need to restore my font settings so that FM can use Helvetica for some 
paragraph formats and ZapfDingbats for square bullets and other symbols. 
Currently ZapfDingbats is replaced by Times New Roman, Helvetica by Arial, and 
Times by Times Roman.

So far, I have downloaded the free Adobe Type Manager from the Abobe Website. 
Both Helvetica, Times, and Zapf Dingbats appear in the ATM window in the 
PSFONTS folder.

However, when I open a Frame document, I get the missing fonts message followed 
by the Framemaker Console List with the list of unavailable fonts followed by 
the fonts that replace them.

Furthermore, in the Family drop-down list, Default tab of the Paragraph 
Designer dialog box, the missing fonts appear in grey.

Some years ago, when I was using FM 6 on Windows 2000, I seem to recall 
changing the font settings in the maker.ini file; that recollection may be 
unreliable.

I tried to follow the Customizing FrameMaker manual for locating the maker.ini 
files and changing font profiles, but couldn't find the corresponding folders 
on my machine (the manual indicates 
UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0).

Thanks


Scott Penney
Technical Writer/Editor
Concepts NREC
217 Billings Farm Road
White River Jct., VT 05001-9486
Tel:  802-296-2321 Ext. 130
802-280-6130 (direct)
Fax:  802-296-2325
mailto:spe at conceptsnrec.com
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RE: missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

[Combs, Richard]

Scott Penney wrote: 

> I need to reset my fonts for a new computer; this is especially
important
> for bullets and some symbols. How can I configure Frame so that it
uses the
> fonts that it used on the old machine?

Wrong verb. Not "reset" -- "install." And note that connecting to a
PostScript printer gives you access to the standard PostScript fonts
when printing to that printer, but they're not installed on your PC and
can't be used in PDFs.
 
> I'm using FM 7.1 on Windows XP Professional (Version 2002, Service
Pack 3),
> and I need to restore my font settings so that FM can use Helvetica
for
> some paragraph formats and ZapfDingbats for square bullets and other
> symbols. Currently ZapfDingbats is replaced by Times New Roman,
Helvetica
> by Arial, and Times by Times Roman.
> 
> So far, I have downloaded the free Adobe Type Manager from the Abobe
> Website. Both Helvetica, Times, and Zapf Dingbats appear in the ATM
window
> in the PSFONTS folder.

Sorry to hear that. IIRC, ATM Lite is not compatible with Win XP, only
ATM Deluxe (not free) is. It's been several years now, but I recall that
installing ATM Lite on XP caused problems, and that removing it required
a special utility from Adobe (Add/Remove Programs couldn't undo the
damage). You'll need to search the Adobe Knowledgebase for the details. 
 
> However, when I open a Frame document, I get the missing fonts message
> followed by the Framemaker Console List with the list of unavailable
fonts
> followed by the fonts that replace them.
> 
> Furthermore, in the Family drop-down list, Default tab of the
Paragraph
> Designer dialog box, the missing fonts appear in grey.
>
> Some years ago, when I was using FM 6 on Windows 2000, I seem to
recall
> changing the font settings in the maker.ini file; that recollection
may be
> unreliable.

No, you remember right. In the [Fonts] section of the file, you can
change the default substitute for missing fonts as well as map specific
missing fonts to the replacements you want to use. It's not for the
faint of heart and may require some experimentation to get right. Then,
if you turn of Remember Missing Font Names, the substitutions will
become permanent. 

Of course, this assumes that you really do want to permanently replace
the font. That might be true for replacing Times with Times New Roman,
but you can't just replace one symbol font, like Zapf Dingbats, with
another -- an "f" is an "f," but in symbol fonts, the characters don't
correspond. 
 
> I tried to follow the Customizing FrameMaker manual for locating the
> maker.ini files and changing font profiles, but couldn't find the
> corresponding folders on my machine (the manual indicates
> UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0).

The main maker.ini is right where it's always been -- the FM
installation folder -- and that's the one you probably want to make font
mapping changes in. There's another one for your personal settings, but
it's mainly for things like window sizes and positions, recent files,
etc. "UserProfile" is a variable referring to a specific user's
"profile" data, the location of which depends on the Windows version. 

This is all explained on page 1 of the Customizing manual under the
heading "Locating customization files." There's a table there that shows
you where UserProfile is for each Windows version. 

Richard


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Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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Re: print color setting is inconsistent

[Art Campbell]

It doesn't have anything to do with your actual printer, it has to do
with your color definitions in one or more Frame files. Pick a file
that doesn't generate that error, then select all other files in the
book. Do File > Import > Formats and import only the Color definitions
to all the other files. Save all the files. Update and you should be
fine.

Art

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On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Deirdre Reagan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> FM 8.0, Windows platform.
>
> I'm getting the following error message when I run my book:
>
> Print setting for color Black is inconsistent.
> Print setting for color Cyan is inconsistent.
> Print setting for etc etc for nine more colors.
>
> I've run a help and I've gone through my printer settings.  I can't
> figure out what might be triggering the error message.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Deirdre
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Re: ePublisher Pro vs. other generated online help

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Andrew,

I respectfully disagree with the idea of "vendor interference". Since 
third-party products related to FrameMaker are part of many workflows, I 
don't think it is inappropriate at all to talk about them on the list. To 
put the shoe on the other foot, if someone posts a difficulty with their 
MIF2Go process, and you know that ePublisher can solve their problem, I 
think it is more than appropriate for you to point this out. Although some 
may see this as self-serving on your part, it still serves the overall 
purpose of the list, which is to help people solve FrameMaker-related 
problems. We all know that Jeremy is biased towards MIF2Go, but I still find 
it beneficial to read how it may solve a particular problem. This kind of 
information can be valuable for me down the road. If he, or any other 
vendor, overstates their case, there are others on the list that can and 
should point that out.

Overall, I think it is good practice for vendors to monitor the FrameMaker 
lists and be ready to contribute, especially if the discussion involves 
their products. It gives them credibility as being in touch with FrameMaker 
users and ready to help provide solutions.

BTW, I am not the list moderator, so I only expressing my opinion :-).

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> Greetings Framers,
>
> We/WebWorks (Quadralay) very rarely weigh in on this list or any other
> list. We believe in nice open discussions with as little vendor
> interference as possible. In the 8 years I have worked at WebWorks this
> is my first posting to Framers.
>
> In light of the recent discussion on ePublisher I thought I would weigh
> in, not with an essay of how ePublisher measures up against other
> products. I believe that kind of post would be inappropriate coming from
> a vendor and might create further confusion because I can only expertly
> comment in reference to ePublisher.
>
> With that in mind, I would like to invite each of you to attend any of
> our free public ePublisher webinars (Jeremy, I would love to have you
> attend as well) these webinars are not sales pitches; they are an open
> forum for you to ask questions about ePublisher and for us to help you
> find the most effective solution. As you will see we offer many
> different webinar topics for our customers and all are welcome to
> register for any of them.
>
> If you are interested in attending a webinar please got to
> http://www.webworks.com/Webinars/ .
>
> Feel free to contact me directly either by phone or email.
>
> Thank you for your time,
> Andrew VanConas
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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InDesign and FrameMaker Text Entry Comparison (WAS: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4)

[Peter Gold]

This is really a new topic.

>> On 23 Sep 2008, at 21:05, quills at airmail.net wrote:
>
>> Every time I try the demo of InDesign I can't get past the part where
>> I make a page and look for where the text entry starts. As in, where
>> is the cursor for text?

and

> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Paul Findon  
> responded:

>
> On the New Document dialog box, select Master Text Frame, then click
> OK. When the new document appears, select the Text tool, Command-
> Shift-click (Ctrl+Shift+click) the frame, and start typing.


This is a good start, but, wait, there's more to it. While the "power
click" brings an InDesign master-page text frame to the body page,
where it works both like and differently from FM, you'll soon fill it
to overflowing, and then...

* You can only type to the bottom of the first text frame; additional
typing is "overset," as typographers call it, indicated by a red "+"
in the lower-right text-frame border, if the Screen Mode is Normal
(not Preview), and the text frame is selected (use the black arrow
tool, aka Selection tool.)

* In FM, it's called "overflow," indicated by a horizontal black line
at the bottom of the frame, if View > Borders is enabled. Because FM
documents typically are designed with auto-connect properties that
cause filled main text frames (like Flow A) to create new text frames
on new pages, it's uncommon to overflow main text flow frames
unintentionally. Main text frames on disconnected FM pages, or those
drawn on any body pages with the text frame tool, do overflow, rather
than connecting automatically to new frames on new pages. You can
connect disconnected text frames manually, using Format > Customize
Layout > Connect Text Frames, to thread text flows across frames and
pages. This is similar to the method of flowing stories across frames
and pages in most layout programs.

* In InDesign earlier than CS4, to add content across pages by typing,
you'd need to manually add pages and connect ("thread") the text
frames manually.

* You can work in the Story Editor window in all InDesign versions,
instead of a layout window, and enter text without concern about
getting stuck when a text frame becomes overset. The Story Editor
indicates where overset begins, but it doesn't stop you from adding
new content.

* In CS4, there's a new feature, Auto Text Reflow, that makes ID work
as you're expecting, based on your experience in FrameMaker, or other
non-layout-centric DTP tools and word-processors.

* ID and FM can do many of the same things, but they often work
differently, as in this example. If you're giving ID a good workout
and get stuck, these InDesign-specific resources will be helpful:

* The Adobe User-to-User InDesign Macintosh and Windows forums (often
the postings aren't platform-specific, so you need to read both to see
all questions and answers), and the Lassosoft InDesign list. Adobe.com
offers a lot of video tutorials and other resources on all the Adobe
products.

* Don't overlook the Help

* Visit the third-party InDesign book descriptions at Amazon.com. Two
very popular dedicated InDesign titles are "Adobe InDesign CS3 Visual
Quick Start," by Sandee Cohen, and "Real World InDesign CS3," by Olav
Kvern and David Blatner.

* These ID-specific resources don't address FM-to-ID issues, so if you
find that applying the FrameMaker side of your brain InDesign causes
headaches, post your questions here.

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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KnowHow ProServices

RE: ePublisher Pro vs. other generated online help

[Matt Sullivan]

Hello Andrew,

Thank you stating your case clearly and so free of personal
comment/politics. 
Such clarity furthers my interest in your product. 
For others the opposite is true as well.

-Matt Sullivan

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew VanConas
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:18 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: ePublisher Pro vs. other generated online help

Greetings Framers,

We/WebWorks (Quadralay) very rarely weigh in on this list or any other 
list. We believe in nice open discussions with as little vendor 
interference as possible. In the 8 years I have worked at WebWorks this 
is my first posting to Framers.

In light of the recent discussion on ePublisher I thought I would weigh 
in, not with an essay of how ePublisher measures up against other 
products. I believe that kind of post would be inappropriate coming from 
a vendor and might create further confusion because I can only expertly 
comment in reference to ePublisher.

With that in mind, I would like to invite each of you to attend any of 
our free public ePublisher webinars (Jeremy, I would love to have you 
attend as well) these webinars are not sales pitches; they are an open 
forum for you to ask questions about ePublisher and for us to help you 
find the most effective solution. As you will see we offer many 
different webinar topics for our customers and all are welcome to 
register for any of them.

If you are interested in attending a webinar please got to 
http://www.webworks.com/Webinars/ .

Feel free to contact me directly either by phone or email.

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ePublisher Pro vs. other generated online help

[Matt Sullivan]

Hello Andrew,

Thank you stating your case clearly and so free of personal
comment/politics. 
Such clarity furthers my interest in your product. 
For others the opposite is true as well.

-Matt Sullivan

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
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Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:18 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: ePublisher Pro vs. other generated online help

Greetings Framers,

We/WebWorks (Quadralay) very rarely weigh in on this list or any other 
list. We believe in nice open discussions with as little vendor 
interference as possible. In the 8 years I have worked at WebWorks this 
is my first posting to Framers.

In light of the recent discussion on ePublisher I thought I would weigh 
in, not with an essay of how ePublisher measures up against other 
products. I believe that kind of post would be inappropriate coming from 
a vendor and might create further confusion because I can only expertly 
comment in reference to ePublisher.

With that in mind, I would like to invite each of you to attend any of 
our free public ePublisher webinars (Jeremy, I would love to have you 
attend as well) these webinars are not sales pitches; they are an open 
forum for you to ask questions about ePublisher and for us to help you 
find the most effective solution. As you will see we offer many 
different webinar topics for our customers and all are welcome to 
register for any of them.

If you are interested in attending a webinar please got to 
http://www.webworks.com/Webinars/ .

Feel free to contact me directly either by phone or email.

Thank you for your time,
Andrew VanConas
andrew at webworks.com 
805-794-6333

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print color setting is inconsistent

[Deirdre Reagan]

Hi all:

FM 8.0, Windows platform.

I'm getting the following error message when I run my book:

Print setting for color Black is inconsistent.
Print setting for color Cyan is inconsistent.
Print setting for etc etc for nine more colors.

I've run a help and I've gone through my printer settings.  I can't
figure out what might be triggering the error message.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

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Re: Can FM6 and FM8 coexist on the same computer?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Richard,

> Can I install FM8 on this computer, having both FM6 and FM8 coexist?

Yes.

> Are there any issues that I should be aware of?

The last one that you install will launch when you double-click on a .fm or 
.book file in Explorer, unless FrameMaker is already running. If FrameMaker 
is already running, it will attempt to open the file you double-clicked on. 
If FM 6 is running and you double-click on an FM 8 file, FM 6 will try 
unsuccessfully to open it.

Otherwise, it all works fine. I have Frame 5.5.6, 6, 7, 7.2, 8, etc. all 
installed on one computer.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

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> Richard
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Can FM6 and FM8 coexist on the same computer?

[ri...@inficon.com]

FM6.0p405 on WIndows XP v2002 Service Pack 3 (Xeon CPU 2.4GHz, 3GB RAM)

Can I install FM8 on this computer, having both FM6 and FM8 coexist? 

Are there any issues that I should be aware of?

Thanks!
Richard

missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

[Scott Penney]

I need to reset my fonts for a new computer; this is especially important for 
bullets and some symbols. How can I configure Frame so that it uses the fonts 
that it used on the old machine?

I'm using FM 7.1 on Windows XP Professional (Version 2002, Service Pack 3), and 
I need to restore my font settings so that FM can use Helvetica for some 
paragraph formats and ZapfDingbats for square bullets and other symbols. 
Currently ZapfDingbats is replaced by Times New Roman, Helvetica by Arial, and 
Times by Times Roman.

So far, I have downloaded the free Adobe Type Manager from the Abobe Website. 
Both Helvetica, Times, and Zapf Dingbats appear in the ATM window in the 
PSFONTS folder.

However, when I open a Frame document, I get the missing fonts message followed 
by the Framemaker Console List with the list of unavailable fonts followed by 
the fonts that replace them.

Furthermore, in the Family drop-down list, Default tab of the Paragraph 
Designer dialog box, the missing fonts appear in grey.

Some years ago, when I was using FM 6 on Windows 2000, I seem to recall 
changing the font settings in the maker.ini file; that recollection may be 
unreliable.

I tried to follow the Customizing FrameMaker manual for locating the maker.ini 
files and changing font profiles, but couldn't find the corresponding folders 
on my machine (the manual indicates 
UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0).

Thanks


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Can FM6 and FM8 coexist on the same computer?

[rinch]

FM6.0p405 on WIndows XP v2002 Service Pack 3 (Xeon CPU 2.4GHz, 3GB RAM)

Can I install FM8 on this computer, having both FM6 and FM8 coexist? 

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Re: ePublisher Pro vs. other generated online help

[Andrew VanConas]

Greetings Framers,

We/WebWorks (Quadralay) very rarely weigh in on this list or any other 
list. We believe in nice open discussions with as little vendor 
interference as possible. In the 8 years I have worked at WebWorks this 
is my first posting to Framers.

In light of the recent discussion on ePublisher I thought I would weigh 
in, not with an essay of how ePublisher measures up against other 
products. I believe that kind of post would be inappropriate coming from 
a vendor and might create further confusion because I can only expertly 
comment in reference to ePublisher.

With that in mind, I would like to invite each of you to attend any of 
our free public ePublisher webinars (Jeremy, I would love to have you 
attend as well) these webinars are not sales pitches; they are an open 
forum for you to ask questions about ePublisher and for us to help you 
find the most effective solution. As you will see we offer many 
different webinar topics for our customers and all are welcome to 
register for any of them.

If you are interested in attending a webinar please got to 
http://www.webworks.com/Webinars/ .

Feel free to contact me directly either by phone or email.

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FW: Russian Frame->ePublisher problem

[Alison Carrico]

We do plenty of Russian & unsupported Central/Eastern Euro in Frame 7,
too. But this doc was translated in Frame 8, so even assuming I could
have made WebWorks 9.2 convert any Frame 7 Russian doc properly, I
couldn't down-save this project without corrupting the text.  

This whole project was produced with FM 7 & WW 8 last year, but my
client later upgraded to Frame 8. I had to recreate in WW ePub a
WebWorks 8 template that relied almost entirely on macros to write &
structure the code. Based on a cursory look at ePub, which said it could
convert WW8 templates, what I originally assumed would take 6-8 hours
turned into 60+ just to do the English template. I'm a pretty fast
learner, but I am NOT a developer & had no experience with the macro
language, so it's just been a nightmare start to finish. And since we
don't have much demand for WW ePub, I'll probably have forgotten all
this hard-earned knowledge when this project comes back around in 12-18
months.

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:00 PM
To: Frame Users
Cc: Alison Carrico; all-dtp
Subject: Re: FW: Russian Frame->ePublisher problem

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:18:54 -0500, "Alison Carrico" 
 wrote:

>Thanks to everyone who responded. The answer seems to be upgrading to
>the most recent version because WW 9.2 doesn't officially support Frame
>8 & Frame 7 doesn't support Russian.

Actually, we've been doing Russian for years in FM7 and even
FM6.  You just need to use a Cyrillic font; any of the fonts
with names ending in CYR will do (Windows code page 1251).

FM8 improves the Russian support, by using Unicode directly.
But you can do almost everything you can do in FM8 in the
earlier versions.  The only difference I recall is that two
fairly obscure characters used in the Ukrainian dialect
were inaccessible because Frame reserved their code points
in the Cyrillic font mapping.

Mif2Go, BTW, works with all versions of Frame and handles 
Cyrillic just fine.  You might want to try it (free):
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm
It's a lot less expensive than the ePP upgrade, and does 
more for you.  IMHO.  ;-)

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

InDesign and FrameMaker Text Entry Comparison (WAS: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4)

[Peter Gold]

This is really a new topic.

>> On 23 Sep 2008, at 21:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Every time I try the demo of InDesign I can't get past the part where
>> I make a page and look for where the text entry starts. As in, where
>> is the cursor for text?

and

> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Paul Findon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> responded:

>
> On the New Document dialog box, select Master Text Frame, then click
> OK. When the new document appears, select the Text tool, Command-
> Shift-click (Ctrl+Shift+click) the frame, and start typing.


This is a good start, but, wait, there's more to it. While the "power
click" brings an InDesign master-page text frame to the body page,
where it works both like and differently from FM, you'll soon fill it
to overflowing, and then...

* You can only type to the bottom of the first text frame; additional
typing is "overset," as typographers call it, indicated by a red "+"
in the lower-right text-frame border, if the Screen Mode is Normal
(not Preview), and the text frame is selected (use the black arrow
tool, aka Selection tool.)

* In FM, it's called "overflow," indicated by a horizontal black line
at the bottom of the frame, if View > Borders is enabled. Because FM
documents typically are designed with auto-connect properties that
cause filled main text frames (like Flow A) to create new text frames
on new pages, it's uncommon to overflow main text flow frames
unintentionally. Main text frames on disconnected FM pages, or those
drawn on any body pages with the text frame tool, do overflow, rather
than connecting automatically to new frames on new pages. You can
connect disconnected text frames manually, using Format > Customize
Layout > Connect Text Frames, to thread text flows across frames and
pages. This is similar to the method of flowing stories across frames
and pages in most layout programs.

* In InDesign earlier than CS4, to add content across pages by typing,
you'd need to manually add pages and connect ("thread") the text
frames manually.

* You can work in the Story Editor window in all InDesign versions,
instead of a layout window, and enter text without concern about
getting stuck when a text frame becomes overset. The Story Editor
indicates where overset begins, but it doesn't stop you from adding
new content.

* In CS4, there's a new feature, Auto Text Reflow, that makes ID work
as you're expecting, based on your experience in FrameMaker, or other
non-layout-centric DTP tools and word-processors.

* ID and FM can do many of the same things, but they often work
differently, as in this example. If you're giving ID a good workout
and get stuck, these InDesign-specific resources will be helpful:

* The Adobe User-to-User InDesign Macintosh and Windows forums (often
the postings aren't platform-specific, so you need to read both to see
all questions and answers), and the Lassosoft InDesign list. Adobe.com
offers a lot of video tutorials and other resources on all the Adobe
products.

* Don't overlook the Help

* Visit the third-party InDesign book descriptions at Amazon.com. Two
very popular dedicated InDesign titles are "Adobe InDesign CS3 Visual
Quick Start," by Sandee Cohen, and "Real World InDesign CS3," by Olav
Kvern and David Blatner.

* These ID-specific resources don't address FM-to-ID issues, so if you
find that applying the FrameMaker side of your brain InDesign causes
headaches, post your questions here.

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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Mif2Go Content Models

[Denise Kadilak]

Hi,



I'm a very new user of Mif2Go - trying to test it a bit and see if this
is a direction we should consider. My current goal is to produce DITA
XML from structured FrameMaker files, and following the Mif2Go User's
Guide, I'm trying to generate a content model from our DTD. 



The User's Guide refers me to the dtd2ini.txt file for instructions on
producing the content model configuration file, and this txt file
instructs me to download the XML parser RXP. The instructions claim the
download is available on the OMSYS download page - I don't' see it. I
attempted to locate a Windows download on the internet - I can't find
one. 



The instructions in the txt file are a little messy in general, but now
I'm worrying that they may also be out-of-date. Does anyone have some
advice on the Mif2Go documentation in general or my problem
specifically? I'm also very prepared to accept full responsibility for
this confusion. I fear I may be in over my head with this tool.



Thanks,

Denise

Re: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

[Paul Findon]

On 23 Sep 2008, at 21:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Every time I try the demo of InDesign I can't get past the part where
> I make a page and look for where the text entry starts. As in, where
> is the cursor for text?

On the New Document dialog box, select Master Text Frame, then click  
OK. When the new document appears, select the Text tool, Command- 
Shift-click (Ctrl+Shift+click) the frame, and start typing.

Paul
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[wwp-users] ePP is ignoring filename markers

[John Pitt]

Callie,

Are any of your missing filename changes in the same topic?

When eP scans each Frame/Word source page, it uses the filename marker to
rename the page. But,  if further down the same Topic page it finds another
filename marker, it renames the html file  to use that marker. The net result
is that the first filename marker is ignored.

If this is the case, you have two major choices: 

Use the page break settings to break up the topic so that each filename marker
is on a separate page (as advised by Franz-Josef). 

Or use TopicAlias markers (and a different method of calling the pages in the
parent application). 

It is probably too late now to consider the latter, but in the long term you
will get far better results with that method. I don't know your output format,
but in WebWorks Help 5, using TopicAliases generates a Topics.js file which
developers can hook into to map between their application calls and the file
name and POSITION of the marker on each page:

function  WWHBookData_MatchTopic(P)
{
var C=null;
if(P=="abt_central")C="abt_central.htm#999244";
if(P=="Mail_Merge")C="How_to_create_a_mail_merge.htm#6316358";
if(P=="How_to_create_a_mail_merge")C="How_to_create_a_mail_merge.htm#6316409";

BTW, when Paul Mueller dries out his PCs in Houston, the new eP doco will
contain FAR better descriptions of how to use Filename and TopicAlias markers
than anything that has gone before (and certainly much better than anything I
can come up with :). 

jjj

ePublisher Pro vs. other generated online help

[Andrew VanConas]

Greetings Framers,

We/WebWorks (Quadralay) very rarely weigh in on this list or any other 
list. We believe in nice open discussions with as little vendor 
interference as possible. In the 8 years I have worked at WebWorks this 
is my first posting to Framers.

In light of the recent discussion on ePublisher I thought I would weigh 
in, not with an essay of how ePublisher measures up against other 
products. I believe that kind of post would be inappropriate coming from 
a vendor and might create further confusion because I can only expertly 
comment in reference to ePublisher.

With that in mind, I would like to invite each of you to attend any of 
our free public ePublisher webinars (Jeremy, I would love to have you 
attend as well) these webinars are not sales pitches; they are an open 
forum for you to ask questions about ePublisher and for us to help you 
find the most effective solution. As you will see we offer many 
different webinar topics for our customers and all are welcome to 
register for any of them.

If you are interested in attending a webinar please got to 
http://www.webworks.com/Webinars/ .

Feel free to contact me directly either by phone or email.

Thank you for your time,
Andrew VanConas
andrew at webworks.com 
805-794-6333

RE: FW: Russian Frame->ePublisher problem

[Alison Carrico]

We do plenty of Russian & unsupported Central/Eastern Euro in Frame 7,
too. But this doc was translated in Frame 8, so even assuming I could
have made WebWorks 9.2 convert any Frame 7 Russian doc properly, I
couldn't down-save this project without corrupting the text.  

This whole project was produced with FM 7 & WW 8 last year, but my
client later upgraded to Frame 8. I had to recreate in WW ePub a
WebWorks 8 template that relied almost entirely on macros to write &
structure the code. Based on a cursory look at ePub, which said it could
convert WW8 templates, what I originally assumed would take 6-8 hours
turned into 60+ just to do the English template. I'm a pretty fast
learner, but I am NOT a developer & had no experience with the macro
language, so it's just been a nightmare start to finish. And since we
don't have much demand for WW ePub, I'll probably have forgotten all
this hard-earned knowledge when this project comes back around in 12-18
months.

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:00 PM
To: Frame Users
Cc: Alison Carrico; all-dtp
Subject: Re: FW: Russian Frame->ePublisher problem

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:18:54 -0500, "Alison Carrico" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Thanks to everyone who responded. The answer seems to be upgrading to
>the most recent version because WW 9.2 doesn't officially support Frame
>8 & Frame 7 doesn't support Russian.

Actually, we've been doing Russian for years in FM7 and even
FM6.  You just need to use a Cyrillic font; any of the fonts
with names ending in CYR will do (Windows code page 1251).

FM8 improves the Russian support, by using Unicode directly.
But you can do almost everything you can do in FM8 in the
earlier versions.  The only difference I recall is that two
fairly obscure characters used in the Ukrainian dialect
were inaccessible because Frame reserved their code points
in the Cyrillic font mapping.

Mif2Go, BTW, works with all versions of Frame and handles 
Cyrillic just fine.  You might want to try it (free):
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm
It's a lot less expensive than the ePP upgrade, and does 
more for you.  IMHO.  ;-)

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://www.omsys.com/
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Mif2Go Content Models

[Denise Kadilak]

Hi,

 

I'm a very new user of Mif2Go - trying to test it a bit and see if this
is a direction we should consider. My current goal is to produce DITA
XML from structured FrameMaker files, and following the Mif2Go User's
Guide, I'm trying to generate a content model from our DTD. 

 

The User's Guide refers me to the dtd2ini.txt file for instructions on
producing the content model configuration file, and this txt file
instructs me to download the XML parser RXP. The instructions claim the
download is available on the OMSYS download page - I don't' see it. I
attempted to locate a Windows download on the internet - I can't find
one. 

 

The instructions in the txt file are a little messy in general, but now
I'm worrying that they may also be out-of-date. Does anyone have some
advice on the Mif2Go documentation in general or my problem
specifically? I'm also very prepared to accept full responsibility for
this confusion. I fear I may be in over my head with this tool.

 

Thanks,

Denise

 

 

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FW: INFO: Adobe CS4 help posted

[Dov Isaacs]

As a followup to a recent thread about FrameMaker versus InDesign, per the
message posted below on an InDesign list, Adobe just published the files
(including PDF) for InDesign 6 and InCopy 6 Help.

Guess what was used to produce these?
(Hint: Download and open the PDF file and hit Ctrl-D)

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: InDesign Talk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caleb Clauset
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 5:13 AM
> To: InDesign Talk
> Subject: INFO: Adobe CS4 help posted
>
> http://blogs.adobe.com/indesigndocs/2008/09/indesign_cs4_help_is_live.html
>
> As noted on Bob Bringhurst's blog (link above), Adobe has now posted
> the InDesign CS4 Help and InCopy CS4 Help to LiveDocs:
>
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/InDesign/6.0/
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/InCopy/6.0/
>
> Also available are (large) PDF versions for offline use.
>
> --
> Caleb Clauset
> Product Manager
> Typefi Systems
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FW: INFO: Adobe CS4 help posted

[Dov Isaacs]

As a followup to a recent thread about FrameMaker versus InDesign, per the
message posted below on an InDesign list, Adobe just published the files
(including PDF) for InDesign 6 and InCopy 6 Help.

Guess what was used to produce these?
(Hint: Download and open the PDF file and hit Ctrl-D)

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: InDesign Talk [mailto:indesign at lists.lassosoft.com] On Behalf Of 
> Caleb Clauset
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 5:13 AM
> To: InDesign Talk
> Subject: INFO: Adobe CS4 help posted
>
> http://blogs.adobe.com/indesigndocs/2008/09/indesign_cs4_help_is_live.html
>
> As noted on Bob Bringhurst's blog (link above), Adobe has now posted
> the InDesign CS4 Help and InCopy CS4 Help to LiveDocs:
>
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/InDesign/6.0/
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/InCopy/6.0/
>
> Also available are (large) PDF versions for offline use.
>
> --
> Caleb Clauset
> Product Manager
> Typefi Systems

Re: The case of dancing drop-downs

[Gyanesh Talwar]

Hi Framers,
This is my second mail on this subject. See for yourself what my dancing
drop-downs look like:

http://www.screencast.com/users/Gyanesh_Talwar/folders/Jing/media/53131363-8f83-408e-ac20-6d0a334ba7af


I suspect this is a mouse issue more than a Frame issue. But I want to check
if anyone else also has faced it and if there is any fix to this.

Regards,
Gyanesh



On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Gyanesh Talwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Frame 7.2b128
> Lenovo Thinkpad T61
> Windows XP
>
> I see the drop downs dancing (blinking) when I expand them in a particular
> template. As soon as I expand a drop-down, such as para formats and roll my
> mouse over it, it starts blinking. Is this a template specific problem?
>
> Anyone else also faced it?
>
> Regards,
>
>
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