Notes Table graphic question
Hello fellow Frame users, Is there a way to design a table in FM so that a graphic is automatically imported with it? For example, in a Notes table? Brad Simmons Technical Writer Ag-Leader Technology 2202 South Riverside Dr. Ames, Iowa 50010 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Notes Table graphic question
Is there a way to design a table in FM so that a graphic is automatically imported with it? For example, in a Notes table? You can use the AutoText plugin. Set up the table with graphic as block text and easily import it with menu clicks or assign a hotkey. Find AutoText (and other great plugins) here: http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/ Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Notes Table graphic question
Sure. It's a two-step process. First, set up a paragraph tag for your cell that calls a graphic in a referenced frame (Advanced tab -- Frame Above or Below) from the Reference pages. Then, in your template (or a chapter file), apply the para tag to the appropriate cell. In Table Designer, do an Update to Note tables. Save the file. That should set the Note table format to use the appropriate paragraph tags in the correct cells. Import that table format (and para formats and Reference pages) to any other files that you want to inherit the style and you should be all set. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Brad Simmons bsimm...@agleader.com wrote: Hello fellow Frame users, Is there a way to design a table in FM so that a graphic is automatically imported with it? For example, in a Notes table? Brad Simmons Technical Writer Ag-Leader Technology 2202 South Riverside Dr. Ames, Iowa 50010 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Footnote Out of Sequence
I have a series of footnotes associated with tables on the same page. The first and second are normal. The third references the same footnote as the second. Because the precedent is not to add an identical footnote and call it 3, this is accomplished by a cross-reference to the third footnote. However, the next footnote should be footnote 3, and the numbering instead reverts to 1. My fiddling with Format - Document - Numbering and the footnote tab is, thus far, to no avail. Here's what my section of this page looks like: http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=484457. (Beware the big download button and look instead for the small Proceed to file download page just above it.) What to do? Jim BTW, I'm also open to suggestions for a better way to share a file but not attach it. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Footnote Out of Sequence
Because these are _table_ footnotes instead of textual footnotes, the numbering should reset with each new table, as far as I know, because each table is a discrete entity. If you have to fake it out (which I wouldn't recommend, but which you may be able to get away with if you're not following a strict academic style guide), I'd just add a superscript number manually. This will cause you more problems if you add material to the tables so that the page break change... which would be another reason to duplicate the footnote text, IMHO. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Pinkham, Jim jim.pink...@voith.com wrote: I have a series of footnotes associated with tables on the same page. The first and second are normal. The third references the same footnote as the second. Because the precedent is not to add an identical footnote and call it 3, this is accomplished by a cross-reference to the third footnote. However, the next footnote should be footnote 3, and the numbering instead reverts to 1. My fiddling with Format - Document - Numbering and the footnote tab is, thus far, to no avail. Here's what my section of this page looks like: http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=484457. (Beware the big download button and look instead for the small Proceed to file download page just above it.) What to do? Jim BTW, I'm also open to suggestions for a better way to share a file but not attach it. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame 9: Improved CMYK - Save as Pdf
G'day all,
earlier I had posted a query re. the improved CMYK support for colour
definitions ('views') in Frame 9. Save as Pdf will indeed maintain the
CMYK numbers without giving the colour view the RBG make-over
inflicted by earlier versions; so will printing to file + distilling.
Printing directly to pdf will RGBify the colour view. Of course, we've
all been told to keep our distance from save as pdf, but those pdfs
now seem to be safe.Here's Dov Isaac's note to one of the user fora
last week. Since it is probably of interest to quite a few of us here,
I take the liberty of quoting it verbatim below.
Cheers,
Mike
(1) Beginning with FrameMaker 7.0, the save as PDF feature in
FrameMaker was at least viable compared to failed efforts prior to
7.0.
(2) To be very clear, what the save as PDF feature does is to
internally create PostScript via the AdobePDF PostScript PostScript
printer driver instance, funnels same to the Distiller with the
user-specified job options, deletes the PostScript file, and then
optionally calls Acrobat or Reader to display the resultant PDF.
FrameMaker does NOT natively generate PDF (unlike InDesign,
Illustrator, and Photoshop).
(3) The save as PDF feature in recent versions of FrameMaker is much
more stable than in 7.0. Added stability is provided for save as PDF
by applying the Microsoft Windows OS fix that resolves the problem of
missing text.
(4) There is no logical difference between printing to the AdobePDF
PostScript printer driver instance and manually creating PostScript
and saving to FILE: and then distilling same. The results and
stability are the same. As such, advice to manually create PostScript
and distill as oppose to printing directly to the AdobePDF PostScript
printer driver instance is pure poppycock / bubbameiser / urban
legend!
Michael Heine
London, ON
Canada
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RE: Footnote Out of Sequence
Sounds like good advice, Art, and thanks for that explanation on how FM handles footnotes. Appreciatively, Jim -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:40 AM To: Pinkham, Jim Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Footnote Out of Sequence Because these are _table_ footnotes instead of textual footnotes, the numbering should reset with each new table, as far as I know, because each table is a discrete entity. If you have to fake it out (which I wouldn't recommend, but which you may be able to get away with if you're not following a strict academic style guide), I'd just add a superscript number manually. This will cause you more problems if you add material to the tables so that the page break change... which would be another reason to duplicate the footnote text, IMHO. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Pinkham, Jim jim.pink...@voith.com wrote: I have a series of footnotes associated with tables on the same page. The first and second are normal. The third references the same footnote as the second. Because the precedent is not to add an identical footnote and call it 3, this is accomplished by a cross-reference to the third footnote. However, the next footnote should be footnote 3, and the numbering instead reverts to 1. My fiddling with Format - Document - Numbering and the footnote tab is, thus far, to no avail. Here's what my section of this page looks like: http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=484457. (Beware the big download button and look instead for the small Proceed to file download page just above it.) What to do? Jim BTW, I'm also open to suggestions for a better way to share a file but not attach it. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gma il.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Footnote Out of Sequence
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Pinkham, Jim jim.pink...@voith.com wrote: I have a series of footnotes associated with tables on the same page. The first and second are normal. The third references the same footnote as the second. Because the precedent is not to add an identical footnote and call it 3, this is accomplished by a cross-reference to the third footnote. However, the next footnote should be footnote 3, and the numbering instead reverts to 1. My fiddling with Format - Document - Numbering and the footnote tab is, thus far, to no avail. Here's what my section of this page looks like: http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=484457. (Beware the big download button and look instead for the small Proceed to file download page just above it.) What to do? Jim BTW, I'm also open to suggestions for a better way to share a file but not attach it. ___ Hi, Jim: If I understand your situation correctly, I believe multiple references to the same footnote should use the same reference number in the main text or table cell text. Using this model, your second reference to footnote 2 should also display 2, so you may want to change your approach and use the cross-reference technique to capture the number 2 from the second footnote, rather than faking an increment to 3. If a new footnote reference is inserted before footnote 1 or 2, they'll increment correctly; the cross-reference to multiple instances of 2 may require a cross-reference update action, but otherwise, as any cross-reference, these are self-maintaining. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Footnote Out of Sequence
Hi, Jim: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Pinkham, Jim jim.pink...@voith.com wrote: Hi, Peter -- Thanks for taking this on. The sequence is 1,2,2,1. The first three are fine. The second 2 is indeed accomplished by the cross-reference technique. The only thing I had expected, based on the marked-up manual I'm revising, was that the final footnote would be a 3, not a 1. Based on Art's comment, the 1 is apparently what should be expected because it is a new table. If there's another way to get to 3 for the final note, in addition to the approach Art suggested, I'd be interested to learn about it and consider going that route. Unless it's possible to fake the two tables as a single table, I'm out of ideas. Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Footnote Out of Sequence
No problem, Peter. Thanks for thinking it over :) -Original Message- From: knowhow...@gmail.com [mailto:knowhow...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:33 PM To: Pinkham, Jim Cc: Art Campbell; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Footnote Out of Sequence Hi, Jim: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Pinkham, Jim jim.pink...@voith.com wrote: Hi, Peter -- Thanks for taking this on. The sequence is 1,2,2,1. The first three are fine. The second 2 is indeed accomplished by the cross-reference technique. The only thing I had expected, based on the marked-up manual I'm revising, was that the final footnote would be a 3, not a 1. Based on Art's comment, the 1 is apparently what should be expected because it is a new table. If there's another way to get to 3 for the final note, in addition to the approach Art suggested, I'd be interested to learn about it and consider going that route. Unless it's possible to fake the two tables as a single table, I'm out of ideas. Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Footnote Out of Sequence
Jim, I had an instance where I had to replicate a published report, and that report had Tables with footnotes as part of the regular footnote sequence. In FM this was not possible so I faked it as follows. I created a real footnote in the anchor paragraph for the table, and coloured the in-text footnote number white so it wouldn't show. Then I added a superscript number (same as the footnote number) in the table to make the reader think this was the real reference. ...Chris From: Pinkham, Jim jim.pink...@voith.com To: pe...@knowhowpro.com,Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Footnote Out of Sequence Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:15:39 -0600 Hi, Peter -- Thanks for taking this on. The sequence is 1,2,2,1. The first three are fine. The second 2 is indeed accomplished by the cross-reference technique. The only thing I had expected, based on the marked-up manual I'm revising, was that the final footnote would be a 3, not a 1. Based on Art's comment, the 1 is apparently what should be expected because it is a new table. If there's another way to get to 3 for the final note, in addition to the approach Art suggested, I'd be interested to learn about it and consider going that route. Regards, Jim -Original Message- From: knowhow...@gmail.com [mailto:knowhow...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:15 PM To: Art Campbell Cc: Pinkham, Jim; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Footnote Out of Sequence On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Pinkham, Jim jim.pink...@voith.com wrote: I have a series of footnotes associated with tables on the same page. The first and second are normal. The third references the same footnote as the second. Because the precedent is not to add an identical footnote and call it 3, this is accomplished by a cross-reference to the third footnote. However, the next footnote should be footnote 3, and the numbering instead reverts to 1. My fiddling with Format - Document - Numbering and the footnote tab is, thus far, to no avail. Here's what my section of this page looks like: http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=484457. (Beware the big download button and look instead for the small Proceed to file download page just above it.) What to do? Jim BTW, I'm also open to suggestions for a better way to share a file but not attach it. ___ Hi, Jim: If I understand your situation correctly, I believe multiple references to the same footnote should use the same reference number in the main text or table cell text. Using this model, your second reference to footnote 2 should also display 2, so you may want to change your approach and use the cross-reference technique to capture the number 2 from the second footnote, rather than faking an increment to 3. If a new footnote reference is inserted before footnote 1 or 2, they'll increment correctly; the cross-reference to multiple instances of 2 may require a cross-reference update action, but otherwise, as any cross-reference, these are self-maintaining. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as cs...@sympatico.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/cseal%40sympatico.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM9 equations
I've only used the equation editor very lightly. But provided that you use a font that supports Unicode characters... I haven't noticed any problems. The Question Marks you see are the standard display character used for missing characters in the font in use. So are you sure that the font(s) you're selecting include the characters you need? And are Unicode complaint? Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Andrey 'ABacus' Bondarenko aba...@beriev.com wrote: Does the problem with equation editor still exist in the FM9? I mean that in the previous version there aren't possibilities to insert many symbols and operators. They are replaced with the question marks. --- Best regards Andrey 'ABacus' Bondarenko mail to: aba...@beriev.com -==- #define QUESTION ((bb) || !(bb)) -= (C) 1601 William Shakespeare =- --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090129-0, 01/29/2009 Tested on: 2/2/2009 2:53:49 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Name - dialog box control
Hi all, In the software I document, a new grid control has become more and more popular. Looks like a table (has rows and columns, can be sorted by clicking column headers, can move and hide columns). I cannot find in any of my sources the name for this control for documentation purposes. List? Table? I appreciate your suggestions. Many thanks. Stephen O'Brien Rédacteur technique senior / Senior Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc. 2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310 Québec (Québec) Canada G1N 4N6 Tel.: (418) 688-2061 Fax: (418) 688-3001 E-mail: sobr...@innovmetric.com www.innovmetric.com PolyWorks, the Universal 3D Metrology Software Platform for Manufacturing (TM) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM9 equations
Andrey, You wrote: Does the problem with equation editor still exist in the FM9? I mean that in the previous version there aren't possibilities to insert many symbols and operators. They are replaced with the question marks. Yes, the problem exists in FM8 and FM9, even when using Unicode fonts -- it seems that the equation editor is not entirely Unicode-compatible. Workaround: In Windows' Regional and Language Options, under Advanced, select English under the field titled Select a language to match the language version of the non-Unicode programs you want to use:. Restart the computer (typically required); large operators/symbols should display properly now. [but... this may cause text in some non-Unicode applications to be displayed incorrectly] Shlomo Perets MicroType * http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker training consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers Improve Your FrameMaker Skills live web-based training sessions ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Footnote Out of Sequence
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:55:18 +, Christopher Seal cs...@sympatico.ca wrote: I had an instance where I had to replicate a published report, and that report had Tables with footnotes as part of the regular footnote sequence. In FM this was not possible so I faked it as follows. I created a real footnote in the anchor paragraph for the table, and coloured the in-text footnote number white so it wouldn't show. Then I added a superscript number (same as the footnote number) in the table to make the reader think this was the real reference. Clever! The problem is that the number in the table won't link to the footnote, but people may overlook that. However, with one slight change you could make that work too. Instead of putting in a text superscript number in the table, use a cross-reference to the real footnote. A second potential issue is that white text may become visible under some conditions (like a non-white background), and can be found in searches. You can minimize the chance of that happening by hiding the anchor para behind the table. Use negative space below equal to the line height for the anchor para, and the same negative amount for space above the table. HTH! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. jer...@omsys.com http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: redirecting all cross-ref'ed fm fm files to the home folder
Suzanne mentioned the Archive plug-in already, and I HIGHLY recommend it. We use it to capture all the files for the current documentation release and send them for translation, and we couldn't do without it, since our files are also stored in multiple folder locations. -Carla *** Carla Martinek, Senior Translation Coordinator/Editor Zebra Technologies Corporation 333 Corporate Woods Parkway, Vernon Hills, IL 60061 cmartinek|zebra|com -Original Message- From: Wei Jiang (PT_ORG) Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:56 PM To: fram...@frameusers.com Subject: redirecting all cross-ref'ed fm fm files to the home folder Hello Everyone, I am now translating a book comprised of cross-referenced FM files which were originally scattered in different locations of the client's hard disk. He had sent me the package in a flat zip file, ie, without the original tree structure. My question is, is there a quick way to update all the broken cross-ref links with all the files in one single folder? TIA! Wei Jiang - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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FM9 & equations
Does the problem with equation editor still exist in the FM9? I mean that in the previous version there aren't possibilities to insert many symbols and operators. They are replaced with the question marks. --- Best regards Andrey 'ABacus' Bondarenko mail to: abacus at beriev.com -==- #define QUESTION ((bb) || !(bb)) -=< (C) 1601 William Shakespeare >=- --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090129-0, 01/29/2009 Tested on: 2/2/2009 2:53:49 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
FM9 & equations
I've only used the equation editor very lightly. But provided that you use a font that supports Unicode characters... I haven't noticed any problems. The Question Marks you see are the standard display character used for missing characters in the font in use. So are you sure that the font(s) you're selecting include the characters you need? And are Unicode complaint? Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Andrey 'ABacus' Bondarenko < abacus at beriev.com> wrote: > Does the problem with equation editor still exist in the FM9? I mean that > in the previous version there aren't possibilities to insert many symbols > and operators. They are replaced with the question marks. > --- > Best regards > > Andrey 'ABacus' Bondarenko > mail to: abacus at beriev.com > > -==- > #define QUESTION ((bb) || !(bb)) > -=< (C) 1601 William Shakespeare >=- > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090129-0, 01/29/2009 > Tested on: 2/2/2009 2:53:49 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Madeleine R Dimond is working on a deadline.
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redirecting all cross-ref'ed fm fm files to the "home" folder
Suzanne mentioned the Archive plug-in already, and I HIGHLY recommend it. We use it to capture all the files for the current documentation release and send them for translation, and we couldn't do without it, since our files are also stored in multiple folder locations. -Carla *** Carla Martinek, Senior Translation Coordinator/Editor Zebra Technologies Corporation 333 Corporate Woods Parkway, Vernon Hills, IL 60061 cmartinek|zebra|com -Original Message- From: Wei Jiang (PT_ORG) Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:56 PM To: framers at frameusers.com Subject: redirecting all cross-ref'ed fm fm files to the "home" folder Hello Everyone, I am now translating a book comprised of cross-referenced FM files which were originally scattered in different locations of the client's hard disk. He had sent me the package in a "flat" zip file, ie, without the original tree structure. My question is, is there a quick way to update all the "broken" cross-ref links with all the files in one single folder? TIA! Wei Jiang - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email.
Notes Table graphic question
Hello fellow Frame users, Is there a way to design a table in FM so that a graphic is automatically imported with it? For example, in a Notes table? Brad Simmons Technical Writer Ag-Leader Technology 2202 South Riverside Dr. Ames, Iowa 50010
Notes Table graphic question
> Is there a way to design a table in FM so that a graphic is > automatically imported with it? For example, in a Notes table? You can use the AutoText plugin. Set up the table with graphic as "block" text and easily import it with menu clicks or assign a hotkey. Find AutoText (and other great plugins) here: http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/ Mike Wickham
Notes Table graphic question
Sure. It's a two-step process. First, set up a paragraph tag for your cell that calls a graphic in a referenced frame (Advanced tab -- Frame Above or Below) from the Reference pages. Then, in your template (or a chapter file), apply the para tag to the appropriate cell. In Table Designer, do an Update to Note tables. Save the file. That should set the Note table format to use the appropriate paragraph tags in the correct cells. Import that table format (and para formats and Reference pages) to any other files that you want to inherit the style and you should be all set. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Brad Simmons wrote: > > Hello fellow Frame users, > > Is there a way to design a table in FM so that a graphic is > automatically imported with it? For example, in a Notes table? > > Brad Simmons > Technical Writer > Ag-Leader Technology > 2202 South Riverside Dr. > Ames, Iowa 50010 > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Footnote Out of Sequence
I have a series of footnotes associated with tables on the same page. The first and second are normal. The third references the same footnote as the second. Because the precedent is not to add an identical footnote and call it 3, this is accomplished by a cross-reference to the third footnote. However, the next footnote should be footnote 3, and the numbering instead reverts to 1. My fiddling with Format - Document - Numbering and the footnote tab is, thus far, to no avail. Here's what my section of this page looks like: http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=484457. (Beware the big download button and look instead for the small "Proceed to file download page" just above it.) What to do? Jim BTW, I'm also open to suggestions for a better way to share a file but not attach it.
Footnote Out of Sequence
Because these are _table_ footnotes instead of textual footnotes, the numbering should reset with each new table, as far as I know, because each table is a discrete entity. If you have to fake it out (which I wouldn't recommend, but which you may be able to get away with if you're not following a strict academic style guide), I'd just add a superscript number manually. This will cause you more problems if you add material to the tables so that the page break change... which would be another reason to duplicate the footnote text, IMHO. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote: > I have a series of footnotes associated with tables on the same page. > The first and second are normal. The third references the same footnote > as the second. Because the precedent is not to add an identical footnote > and call it 3, this is accomplished by a cross-reference to the third > footnote. However, the next footnote should be footnote 3, and the > numbering instead reverts to 1. My fiddling with Format - Document - > Numbering and the footnote tab is, thus far, to no avail. > > Here's what my section of this page looks like: > > http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=484457. (Beware the big download > button and look instead for the small "Proceed to file download page" > just above it.) > What to do? > > Jim > > BTW, I'm also open to suggestions for a better way to share a file but > not attach it. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Frame 9: Improved CMYK - Save as Pdf
G'day all,
earlier I had posted a query re. the improved CMYK support for colour
definitions ('views') in Frame 9. Save as Pdf will indeed maintain the
CMYK numbers without giving the colour view the RBG make-over
inflicted by earlier versions; so will printing to file + distilling.
Printing directly to pdf will RGBify the colour view. Of course, we've
all been told to keep our distance from save as pdf, but those pdfs
now seem to be safe.Here's Dov Isaac's note to one of the user fora
last week. Since it is probably of interest to quite a few of us here,
I take the liberty of quoting it verbatim below.
Cheers,
Mike
>>>
(1) Beginning with FrameMaker 7.0, the "save as PDF" feature in
FrameMaker was at least viable compared to failed efforts prior to
7.0.
(2) To be very clear, what the "save as PDF" feature does is to
internally create PostScript via the AdobePDF PostScript PostScript
printer driver instance, funnels same to the Distiller with the
user-specified job options, deletes the PostScript file, and then
optionally calls Acrobat or Reader to display the resultant PDF.
FrameMaker does NOT natively generate PDF (unlike InDesign,
Illustrator, and Photoshop).
(3) The "save as PDF" feature in recent versions of FrameMaker is much
more stable than in 7.0. Added stability is provided for "save as PDF"
by applying the Microsoft Windows OS fix that resolves the problem of
"missing text."
(4) There is no logical difference between printing to the AdobePDF
PostScript printer driver instance and manually creating PostScript
and saving to FILE: and then distilling same. The results and
stability are the same. As such, advice to manually create PostScript
and distill as oppose to printing directly to the AdobePDF PostScript
printer driver instance is pure poppycock / bubbameiser / urban
legend!
<<<
Michael Heine
London, ON
Canada
Footnote Out of Sequence
Sounds like good advice, Art, and thanks for that explanation on how FM handles footnotes. Appreciatively, Jim -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:40 AM To: Pinkham, Jim Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Footnote Out of Sequence Because these are _table_ footnotes instead of textual footnotes, the numbering should reset with each new table, as far as I know, because each table is a discrete entity. If you have to fake it out (which I wouldn't recommend, but which you may be able to get away with if you're not following a strict academic style guide), I'd just add a superscript number manually. This will cause you more problems if you add material to the tables so that the page break change... which would be another reason to duplicate the footnote text, IMHO. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote: > I have a series of footnotes associated with tables on the same page. > The first and second are normal. The third references the same > footnote as the second. Because the precedent is not to add an > identical footnote and call it 3, this is accomplished by a > cross-reference to the third footnote. However, the next footnote > should be footnote 3, and the numbering instead reverts to 1. My > fiddling with Format - Document - Numbering and the footnote tab is, thus far, to no avail. > > Here's what my section of this page looks like: > > http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=484457. (Beware the big > download button and look instead for the small "Proceed to file download page" > just above it.) > What to do? > > Jim > > BTW, I'm also open to suggestions for a better way to share a file but > not attach it. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gma > il.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Footnote Out of Sequence
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote: >> I have a series of footnotes associated with tables on the same page. >> The first and second are normal. The third references the same footnote >> as the second. Because the precedent is not to add an identical footnote >> and call it 3, this is accomplished by a cross-reference to the third >> footnote. However, the next footnote should be footnote 3, and the >> numbering instead reverts to 1. My fiddling with Format - Document - >> Numbering and the footnote tab is, thus far, to no avail. >> >> Here's what my section of this page looks like: >> >> http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=484457. (Beware the big download >> button and look instead for the small "Proceed to file download page" >> just above it.) >> What to do? >> >> Jim >> >> BTW, I'm also open to suggestions for a better way to share a file but >> not attach it. >> ___ Hi, Jim: If I understand your situation correctly, I believe multiple references to the same footnote should use the same reference number in the main text or table cell text. Using this model, your second reference to footnote 2 should also display 2, so you may want to change your approach and use the cross-reference technique to capture the number 2 from the second footnote, rather than faking an increment to 3. If a new footnote reference is inserted before footnote 1 or 2, they'll increment correctly; the cross-reference to multiple instances of 2 may require a cross-reference update action, but otherwise, as any cross-reference, these are self-maintaining. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Footnote Out of Sequence
Hi, Peter -- Thanks for taking this on. The sequence is 1,2,2,1. The first three are fine. The second 2 is indeed accomplished by the cross-reference technique. The only thing I had expected, based on the marked-up manual I'm revising, was that the final footnote would be a 3, not a 1. Based on Art's comment, the 1 is apparently what should be expected because it is a new table. If there's another way to get to 3 for the final note, in addition to the approach Art suggested, I'd be interested to learn about it and consider going that route. Regards, Jim -Original Message- From: knowhowpro at gmail.com [mailto:knowhow...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:15 PM To: Art Campbell Cc: Pinkham, Jim; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Footnote Out of Sequence On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote: >> I have a series of footnotes associated with tables on the same page. >> The first and second are normal. The third references the same >> footnote as the second. Because the precedent is not to add an >> identical footnote and call it 3, this is accomplished by a >> cross-reference to the third footnote. However, the next footnote >> should be footnote 3, and the numbering instead reverts to 1. My >> fiddling with Format - Document - Numbering and the footnote tab is, thus far, to no avail. >> >> Here's what my section of this page looks like: >> >> http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=484457. (Beware the big >> download button and look instead for the small "Proceed to file download page" >> just above it.) >> What to do? >> >> Jim >> >> BTW, I'm also open to suggestions for a better way to share a file >> but not attach it. >> ___ Hi, Jim: If I understand your situation correctly, I believe multiple references to the same footnote should use the same reference number in the main text or table cell text. Using this model, your second reference to footnote 2 should also display 2, so you may want to change your approach and use the cross-reference technique to capture the number 2 from the second footnote, rather than faking an increment to 3. If a new footnote reference is inserted before footnote 1 or 2, they'll increment correctly; the cross-reference to multiple instances of 2 may require a cross-reference update action, but otherwise, as any cross-reference, these are self-maintaining. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Footnote Out of Sequence
Hi, Jim: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote: > Hi, Peter -- > > Thanks for taking this on. The sequence is 1,2,2,1. The first three are > fine. The second 2 is indeed accomplished by the cross-reference > technique. The only thing I had expected, based on the marked-up manual > I'm revising, was that the final footnote would be a 3, not a 1. Based > on Art's comment, the 1 is apparently what should be expected because it > is a new table. If there's another way to get to 3 for the final note, > in addition to the approach Art suggested, I'd be interested to learn > about it and consider going that route. Unless it's possible to fake the two tables as a single table, I'm out of ideas. Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Footnote Out of Sequence
No problem, Peter. Thanks for thinking it over :) -Original Message- From: knowhowpro at gmail.com [mailto:knowhow...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:33 PM To: Pinkham, Jim Cc: Art Campbell; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Footnote Out of Sequence Hi, Jim: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote: > Hi, Peter -- > > Thanks for taking this on. The sequence is 1,2,2,1. The first three > are fine. The second 2 is indeed accomplished by the cross-reference > technique. The only thing I had expected, based on the marked-up > manual I'm revising, was that the final footnote would be a 3, not a > 1. Based on Art's comment, the 1 is apparently what should be expected > because it is a new table. If there's another way to get to 3 for the > final note, in addition to the approach Art suggested, I'd be > interested to learn about it and consider going that route. Unless it's possible to fake the two tables as a single table, I'm out of ideas. Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Footnote Out of Sequence
Jim, I had an instance where I had to replicate a published report, and that report had Tables with footnotes as part of the regular footnote sequence. In FM this was not possible so I faked it as follows. I created a real footnote in the anchor paragraph for the table, and coloured the in-text footnote number white so it wouldn't show. Then I added a superscript number (same as the footnote number) in the table to make the reader think this was the real reference. ...Chris >From: "Pinkham, Jim" >To: ,"Art Campbell" >CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com >Subject: RE: Footnote Out of Sequence >Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:15:39 -0600 > >Hi, Peter -- > >Thanks for taking this on. The sequence is 1,2,2,1. The first three are >fine. The second 2 is indeed accomplished by the cross-reference >technique. The only thing I had expected, based on the marked-up manual >I'm revising, was that the final footnote would be a 3, not a 1. Based >on Art's comment, the 1 is apparently what should be expected because it >is a new table. If there's another way to get to 3 for the final note, >in addition to the approach Art suggested, I'd be interested to learn >about it and consider going that route. > >Regards, >Jim > >-Original Message- >From: knowhowpro at gmail.com [mailto:knowhowpro at gmail.com] On Behalf Of >Peter Gold >Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:15 PM >To: Art Campbell >Cc: Pinkham, Jim; framers at lists.frameusers.com >Subject: Re: Footnote Out of Sequence > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Pinkham, Jim >wrote: > >> I have a series of footnotes associated with tables on the same page. > >> The first and second are normal. The third references the same > >> footnote as the second. Because the precedent is not to add an > >> identical footnote and call it 3, this is accomplished by a > >> cross-reference to the third footnote. However, the next footnote > >> should be footnote 3, and the numbering instead reverts to 1. My > >> fiddling with Format - Document - Numbering and the footnote tab is, >thus far, to no avail. > >> > >> Here's what my section of this page looks like: > >> > >> http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=484457. (Beware the big > >> download button and look instead for the small "Proceed to file >download page" > >> just above it.) > >> What to do? > >> > >> Jim > >> > >> BTW, I'm also open to suggestions for a better way to share a file > >> but not attach it. > >> ___ > >Hi, Jim: > >If I understand your situation correctly, I believe multiple references >to the same footnote should use the same reference number in the main >text or table cell text. > >Using this model, your second reference to footnote 2 should also >display 2, so you may want to change your approach and use the >cross-reference technique to capture the number 2 from the second >footnote, rather than faking an increment to 3. > >If a new footnote reference is inserted before footnote 1 or 2, they'll >increment correctly; the cross-reference to multiple instances of 2 may >require a cross-reference update action, but otherwise, as any >cross-reference, these are self-maintaining. > >HTH > >Regards, > >Peter >__ >Peter Gold >KnowHow ProServices >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as cseal at sympatico.ca. > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/cseal%40sympatico.ca > >Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Name - dialog box control
Hi all, In the software I document, a new grid control has become more and more popular. Looks like a table (has rows and columns, can be sorted by clicking column headers, can move and hide columns). I cannot find in any of my sources the name for this control for documentation purposes. List? Table? I appreciate your suggestions. Many thanks. Stephen O'Brien R?dacteur technique senior / Senior Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc. 2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310 Qu?bec (Qu?bec) Canada G1N 4N6 Tel.: (418) 688-2061 Fax: (418) 688-3001 E-mail: sobrien at innovmetric.com www.innovmetric.com PolyWorks, the Universal 3D Metrology Software Platform for Manufacturing (TM)
Footnote Out of Sequence
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:55:18 +, "Christopher Seal" wrote: >I had an instance where I had to replicate a published report, and that >report had Tables with footnotes as part of the regular footnote sequence. >In FM this was not possible so I faked it as follows. I created a real >footnote in the anchor paragraph for the table, and coloured the in-text >footnote number white so it wouldn't show. Then I added a superscript number >(same as the footnote number) in the table to make the reader think this was >the real reference. Clever! The problem is that the number in the table won't link to the footnote, but people may overlook that. However, with one slight change you could make that work too. Instead of putting in a text superscript number in the table, use a cross-reference to the real footnote. A second potential issue is that white text may become visible under some conditions (like a non-white background), and can be found in searches. You can minimize the chance of that happening by hiding the anchor para behind the table. Use negative space below equal to the line height for the anchor para, and the same negative amount for space above the table. HTH! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/
